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Post by dmmichgood on Jul 31, 2020 2:26:07 GMT -5
What amazes me is how that you seem to believe that the conclusions that you have come to should also the the same ones that we should have done.
You claim that my images were "created by religion."
So, -yours wasn't?!
You have no idea of my own journey through this life, or my thought processes & conclusions that I came to along the way' -yet think that you can tell me what I believe and even WHY I should believe it!
Forget your comment about "No disrepect meant."!
That is extremely disrespectful!
As is your calling my statement about being a Humanist a "boast!"
You keep talking about other people's proclamations; -would you please state in plain English what your own proclamation of yourself to be?
No that's not right, I want you to understand how I come to those conclusions, that I am having trouble conveying. This is why I say imagery/ now disbelief is the block to understanding my view. Yep my image was created by religion, just like most westerners, how could it not be, its been around for centuries. I know have thrown that imagery in the bin but. I don't really have any imagery for God, that's why I see God when someone defends the cause of the needy, regardless of what they claim they are. No religion involved, no religion needed. Which is why I ask again, what is religous about displaying the Character of Christ?. Well here's your chance to correct me. What was your image of god?. Your easily offended. Boasting could be satisfaction in your Achievements, are you saying your not satisfied in your humanistic efforts, I hardly see why you would bother to mention it if you were not satisfied. I knew you would take offence by the way, which points out how easily one could arrive at a different conclusion from the same word. It was in no way offensive to call it a boast. I didn't make it offensive..... I said it in a way that honoured you humanism. Maybe the scriptures could also be just as easily read the wrong way when we don't understand the feelings the Hebrew people thought and recorded in scripture. It would be offensive however if you didn't live up to your boast. Like many Christians!. I proclaim to try and act as if there is a God. I proclaim to try and have the Character of Christ. I think that I will give up trying to understand you.
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Post by joanna on Aug 1, 2020 20:03:24 GMT -5
BobWilliston. I was in a conversation with two Christians earlier this year and both opposed the use of the term "religion". It seems believers distance themselves from what was once a badge to promote, and has evolved to be something of a shame given the connection of Religion with Profit, Power and Paedophilia. But like it or not, as you said Bob, "a dandelion is still a weed" and the new-age, happy-clappy gatherings are still cultivating the Three P's. Outspoken adherents point their fingers away from their own religion and aim to name and shame other religions who worship the same god as they do. However they cannot hide behind their new brand of belief as the corner-stones of religiosity are about profiting from control/power whether in $$$, ego or typically both.
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magpies39plus
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WHY? Does quoting relevant scripture send the 2x2;s into sometimes a nasty response??
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Post by magpies39plus on Aug 5, 2020 2:42:46 GMT -5
The Spirit of our the Father of the Prodigal Son does not and never has in the Irvine doctrine history,has it? More the history of the Brother isn't it? Though we left to further our Christian usefillness within the body of christ,and to submit to the guidence of God's Holy Spirit!! We were made into dirt in the 2x2s minds,it challenged dhe preachers,and bitter others. My own sister said "you have just bought a ticket to damnation". Loving,encouraging,forgivable words that are the only ones in the 2x2 dictionery!! Why would anyone want to go back to that-MMM 6 months of boring only way preacher only meetings (if they are in your district) then an alter call and re-baptism. Do you embrace this?? Goodness,how can those of faith (not denominations)unite and have to sadly leave you of the Irvine sect behind,because your minds are divisive not healing? As people are being persecuted,executated,raped,etc do they ask your denomination---NO---your faith in Jesus that is why they are brutelised and martyred ---Would you stand with them or say they were This or that denomination---NO----because it is in the fact thay would not denounce their faith in Christ even in death!! Cause we left the 2x2 sect we are going to damnation,weigh up the reason of the martyres for christ!!! Magpie
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