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Post by curlywurlysammagee on Jun 3, 2020 19:37:26 GMT -5
It wouldnt have mattered what topics I chose. I deliberately chose these topics not because they are dear to my heart. I could have chosen things like children, autism, disabilities, NDIS,ancient civilisations,wildflowers, endtime prophecy, philanthropy, house flipping, the power in the word,(Jesus), espionage, cooking, gardening, travelling the world. Travelling the universe.etc etc etc These things I love. You work in a gang, are clicky.(no different to some churches) have an agenda to fight a battle of words. It strokes your ego because you think you are more clever than others As many have said. Atheists have taken over this board. The vitriol, anger, hatred, bitterness and animosity towards Christians is telling. Very cruel. Uncalled for. There is only one atheist I have any kind of respect for here. Your agenda/motive is not to help or support it is judgemental and abusive. Not pleasant charactors at all. Those that stand up to you have one thing in common. That is they belive in seeking out facts and truth. I have yet to see any of that in your posts.
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Post by BobWilliston on Jun 4, 2020 0:42:16 GMT -5
As of this week, we have serious warning that the constitution has been suspended, whether it's technically martial law or not.
How does the Attorney General get the authority to order the gassing and rubber bullet shooting of peaceful protesters?
Why does the President's wish for a photo option call for the dispersion of a peacefully gathered by force?
And once he got there for his picture, he had nothing whatsoever to say about what it meant or what was happening.
His handpicked Defense Secretary now condemns Trump's threat to use the military to dominate American civilians. (Mattis)
His present Defense Secretary (Esper) has similarly expressed disagreement with Trump's threat to use the military to halt protests.
It has become abundantly apparent that he doesn't know how to do his job within the confines of the Constitution. How much can we depend on the military to resist orders to defy their consstitutional role?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 4, 2020 1:17:22 GMT -5
As of this week, we have serious warning that the constitution has been suspended, whether it's technically martial law or not. How does the Attorney General get the authority to order the gassing and rubber bullet shooting of peaceful protesters? Why does the President's wish for a photo option call for the dispersion of a peacefully gathered by force? And once he got there for his picture, he had nothing whatsoever to say about what it meant or what was happening. His handpicked Defense Secretary now condemns Trump's threat to use the military to dominate American civilians. (Mattis) His present Defense Secretary (Esper) has similarly expressed disagreement with Trump's threat to use the military to halt protests. It has become abundantly apparent that he doesn't know how to do his job within the confines of the Constitution. How much can we depend on the military to resist orders to defy their consstitutional role? i'd say they would follow orders as to not to will result in more destruction, death or injury, mayhem if rioting, looting and burning are allowed to continue...and you have a strange definition of peaceful...
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Post by dmmichgood on Jun 4, 2020 1:32:02 GMT -5
It wouldnt have mattered what topics I chose. I deliberately chose these topics not because they are dear to my heart. I could have chosen things like children, autism, disabilities, NDIS,ancient civilisations,wildflowers, endtime prophecy, philanthropy, house flipping, the power in the word,(Jesus), espionage, cooking, gardening, travelling the world. Travelling the universe.etc etc etc These things I love. You work in a gang, are clicky.(no different to some churches) have an agenda to fight a battle of words. It strokes your ego because you think you are more clever than others As many have said. Atheists have taken over this board. The vitriol, anger, hatred, bitterness and animosity towards Christians is telling. Very cruel. Uncalled for. There is only one atheist I have any kind of respect for here. Your agenda/motive is not to help or support it is judgemental and abusive. Not pleasant charactors at all
Do you think the reason might be is that you post some issues that really need to be verified as truth? Do you realize truth is "dear to my heart?"
Would you just let it pass if some of us stated something that you felt was not true or could not be true? Would you sit on our hands and not counter misinformation to be widely disseminated and allow it to pass without comment?
Wouldn't you feel that by doing so it would make you as responsible for the errors as those who stated them?
You have had many posts that had nothing at all to do with Christianity , -so why are you posting your own "vitriol, anger, hatred, bitterness and animosity" toward those who are atheists?
You judge our motives and agenda, -do you think that perhaps you might re-think what your own agenda should be?
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Post by dmmichgood on Jun 4, 2020 1:34:18 GMT -5
If martial law does take over, wally, -they aren't going to allow you to use YOUR gun.
They might even take it away from you, -so don't be too anxious to see it happen. do you actually read my posts before you reply? Oh yes, I certainly did.
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Post by BobWilliston on Jun 4, 2020 2:14:30 GMT -5
As of this week, we have serious warning that the constitution has been suspended, whether it's technically martial law or not. How does the Attorney General get the authority to order the gassing and rubber bullet shooting of peaceful protesters? Why does the President's wish for a photo option call for the dispersion of a peacefully gathered by force? And once he got there for his picture, he had nothing whatsoever to say about what it meant or what was happening. His handpicked Defense Secretary now condemns Trump's threat to use the military to dominate American civilians. (Mattis) His present Defense Secretary (Esper) has similarly expressed disagreement with Trump's threat to use the military to halt protests. It has become abundantly apparent that he doesn't know how to do his job within the confines of the Constitution. How much can we depend on the military to resist orders to defy their consstitutional role? i'd say they would follow orders as to not to will result in more destruction, death or injury, mayhem if rioting, looting and burning are allowed to continue...and you have a strange definition of peaceful... I'm sure you said what you wanted to say.
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Post by dmmichgood on Jun 4, 2020 2:16:43 GMT -5
As of this week, we have serious warning that the constitution has been suspended, whether it's technically martial law or not. How does the Attorney General get the authority to order the gassing and rubber bullet shooting of peaceful protesters? Why does the President's wish for a photo option call for the dispersion of a peacefully gathered by force? And once he got there for his picture, he had nothing whatsoever to say about what it meant or what was happening. His handpicked Defense Secretary now condemns Trump's threat to use the military to dominate American civilians. (Mattis) His present Defense Secretary (Esper) has similarly expressed disagreement with Trump's threat to use the military to halt protests. It has become abundantly apparent that he doesn't know how to do his job within the confines of the Constitution. How much can we depend on the military to resist orders to defy their consstitutional role? i'd say they would follow orders as to not to will result in more destruction, death or injury, mayhem if rioting, looting and burning are allowed to continue...and you have a strange definition of peaceful... Can you show us where those protesting were not being peaceful, wally? I would like for you to show that because from everything I saw there was NO violence at all being done by the protesters.
I have a relative new computer and I can see videos of all the latest news.
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Post by BobWilliston on Jun 4, 2020 2:17:23 GMT -5
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Post by BobWilliston on Jun 4, 2020 2:23:37 GMT -5
i'd say they would follow orders as to not to will result in more destruction, death or injury, mayhem if rioting, looting and burning are allowed to continue...and you have a strange definition of peaceful... Can you show us where those protesting were not being peaceful, wally?
I would like for you to show that because from everything I saw there was NO violence at all being done by the protesters.
I have a relative new computer and I can see videos of all the latest news.
In Las Vegas a few people were arrested for curfew violations and the like, which is not violence. There were three people protested. They had been around Las Vegas before and promoting vandalism. This time they came (from other places) loaded with weapons and plans to stir the protesters up into vandalism. Interestingly these "visitors" in town all turned out to be military of some branch. We already have the military rioting in the streets - shooting at cops even.
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Post by curlywurlysammagee on Jun 4, 2020 3:37:55 GMT -5
That;s so funny, the guy in the blue jeans has borrowed the blue gloves his mum uses when washing the dishing. Or checking the poor boys prostate.
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Post by matisse on Jun 4, 2020 6:37:48 GMT -5
From the Lincoln Project, a Conservative Republican group that has endorsed Joe Biden for President:
I am concerned that Barr's (Trump's) unconstitutional use of force may have been a test for November.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 4, 2020 13:42:03 GMT -5
From the Lincoln Project, a Conservative Republican group that has endorsed Joe Biden for President: I am concerned that Barr's (Trump's) unconstitutional use of force may have been a test for November. just like when your side calls a black conservative an uncle tom we call those kind of republicans RINO's....
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Post by matisse on Jun 4, 2020 14:15:15 GMT -5
From the Lincoln Project, a Conservative Republican group that has endorsed Joe Biden for President: I am concerned that Barr's (Trump's) unconstitutional use of force may have been a test for November. just like when your side calls a black conservative an uncle tom we call those kind of republicans RINO's.... I have never claimed that a black Republican wasn't a Republican. Neither have I called them by that name. RINO is straight out of the NTS fallacy playbook.
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Post by BobWilliston on Jun 4, 2020 15:47:37 GMT -5
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Post by curlywurlysammagee on Jun 4, 2020 16:19:56 GMT -5
What was Trump's response?
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Post by curlywurlysammagee on Jun 4, 2020 16:22:50 GMT -5
I have wondered about the actions of the president and those around him at the church photo op and whether they were in fact legal. Not just a violation of the First Amendment but also common assault and or aggravated assault. Those are terms used in NZ but not sure what the USA equivalant is.
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Post by dmmichgood on Jun 4, 2020 17:07:26 GMT -5
I was answering your post about your remark on Bob Williston post!
Bob's post: As of this week, we have serious warning that the constitution has been suspended,
whether it's technically martial law or not.
How does the Attorney General get the authority to order the gassing and
rubber bullet shooting of peaceful protesters?
Why does the President's wish for a photo option call for the dispersion
of a peacefully gathered by force?
And once he got there for his picture, he had nothing whatsoever to say
about what it meant or what was happening.
His handpicked Defense Secretary now condemns Trump's threat to use
the military to dominate American civilians. (Mattis)
His present Defense Secretary (Esper) has similarly expressed disagreement with
Trump's threat to use the military to halt protests.
It has become abundantly apparent that he doesn't know how to do his job within the
confines of the Constitution. How much can we depend on the military to resist orders
to defy their constitutional role?
Wally your reply: i'd say they would follow orders as to not to will result in more destruction, death or injury, mayhem if rioting, looting and burning are allowed to continue...and you have a strange definition of peaceful...
My post was specific about one incident. It was in answer to your post where you were referring to what Bob had said! Trump had a path cleared through peaceful protesters using pepper balls & rubber bullets against peaceful protesters so he could go to the church & hold up a bible just for photo op!
Geeze! - wally please try to "keep up!"
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Post by xna on Jun 4, 2020 17:08:32 GMT -5
I have wondered about the actions of the president and those around him at the church photo op and whether they were in fact legal. Not just a violation of the First Amendment but also common assault and or aggravated assault. Those are terms used in NZ but not sure what the USA equivalant is. I think it was legal. Many president have went inside churches. The evangelicals are complaining he used a RSV bible translation. They don't like that version as in Isaiah 7:14, where the word “virgin” is translated as “young woman. Being a virgin is a big deal for evangelicals. Even Televangelist Pat Robertson condemned Trump's 'law and order' response to protests.Trumps ratings have fallen since this.
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Post by dmmichgood on Jun 4, 2020 17:09:20 GMT -5
I was answering your post about your remark on Bob Williston post!
Bob's post:
As of this week, we have serious warning that the constitution has been suspended, whether it's technically martial law or not.
How does the Attorney General get the authority to order the gassing and rubber bullet shooting of peaceful protesters?
Why does the President's wish for a photo option call for the dispersio of a peacefully gathered by force?
And once he got there for his picture, he had nothing whatsoever to say about what it meant or what was happening.
His handpicked Defense Secretary now condemns Trump's threat to use the military to dominate American civilians. (Mattis)
His present Defense Secretary (Esper) has similarly expressed disagreement with Trump's threat to use the military to halt protests.
It has become abundantly apparent that he doesn't know how to do his job within the confines of the Constitution. How much can we depend on the military to resist orders to defy their constitutional role
Wally your reply:
i'd say they would follow orders as to not to will result in more destruction, death or injury, mayhem if rioting, looting and burning are allowed to continue...and you have a strange definition of peaceful...
My post in answer to you was referring to where Trump had a path cleared through peaceful protesters using pepper balls & rubber bullets against peaceful protesters so he could go to the church & hold up a bible just for photo op!
Geeze, wally please try to "keep up!"
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Post by BobWilliston on Jun 4, 2020 18:26:10 GMT -5
What was Trump's response? He went and posed with Melania before a statue of the pope. But so far I've not heard of him issuing a trash Twitter about Mattis.
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Post by BobWilliston on Jun 4, 2020 18:50:11 GMT -5
I have wondered about the actions of the president and those around him at the church photo op and whether they were in fact legal. Not just a violation of the First Amendment but also common assault and or aggravated assault. Those are terms used in NZ but not sure what the USA equivalant is. There was nothing illegal about Trump posing anywhere for a photo opportunity. The real problem was how he cleared the walkway so he could parade himself up there for the photo op. There was no violence, but he had the military clear the walkway with pepper spray and rubber bullets, plus he had a military helicopter come overhead to provide noise and a wind blast to make them move. The mayor of Washington has told him that she wants the military to stay out of the city. The fundamentalists obviously didn't like the fact that he didn't use the right version of the Bible -- but mostly they liked the attempt to intimate an exorcism of sorts. The Episcopal church hierarchy (it was their church) was offended because they felt it was an abominable use of Christian symbols for political advantage. Today five top military officials (now that they're not in the military any more) have come out and condemned Trump's threats against the states. I remember that in 2016 I suggested there would be an attempt to establish martial law in the summer of 2020.
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Post by xna on Jun 4, 2020 19:14:34 GMT -5
I have wondered about the actions of the president and those around him at the church photo op and whether they were in fact legal. Not just a violation of the First Amendment but also common assault and or aggravated assault. Those are terms used in NZ but not sure what the USA equivalant is. As I understand it Washington, D.C. is federal land and he has more latitude on federal land than in a state.
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Post by matisse on Jun 4, 2020 19:21:43 GMT -5
What was Trump's response? He went and posed with Melania before a statue of the pope. But so far I've not heard of him issuing a trash Twitter about Mattis. Yeah, Trump tried trashing Mattis bigly. General John Kelly weighed in. President Donald Trump's former White House chief of staff John Kelly defended former Secretary of Defense Jim Mattis on Thursday, calling him an "honorable man" and rejecting the president's claim that he fired the retired Marine Corps general. "The president did not fire him. He did not ask for his resignation," Kelly, also a retired Marine Corps general, told The Washington Post Thursday. "The president has clearly forgotten how it actually happened or is confused," he added. "The president tweeted a very positive tweet about Jim until he started to see on Fox News their interpretation of his letter. Then he got nasty." "Jim Mattis is a honorable man," Kelly said. (Business Insider) In addition to the claims that Kelly, who left the administration around the same time as Mattis, disputed Thursday, it should be noted that the nickname "Mad Dog" was not coined by Trump but had been in use long before the president ever took office.
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Post by BobWilliston on Jun 4, 2020 19:26:38 GMT -5
He went and posed with Melania before a statue of the pope. But so far I've not heard of him issuing a trash Twitter about Mattis. Yeah, Trump tried trashing Mattis bigly. Yes, he did claim to have fired Mattis. Actually, Mattis resigned, and his successor confirmed that Marris did indeed resign.
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Post by matisse on Jun 4, 2020 19:28:24 GMT -5
Yeah, Trump tried trashing Mattis bigly. Yes, he did claim to have fired Mattis. Actually, Mattis resigned, and his successor confirmed that Marris did indeed resign. I pulled a "gratu" and added information to my post while you replied to it. :P
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Post by Deleted on Jun 4, 2020 20:24:04 GMT -5
I was answering your post about your remark on Bob Williston post!
Bob's post:
As of this week, we have serious warning that the constitution has been suspended, whether it's technically martial law or not.
How does the Attorney General get the authority to order the gassing and rubber bullet shooting of peaceful protesters?
Why does the President's wish for a photo option call for the dispersio of a peacefully gathered by force?
And once he got there for his picture, he had nothing whatsoever to say about what it meant or what was happening.
His handpicked Defense Secretary now condemns Trump's threat to use the military to dominate American civilians. (Mattis)
His present Defense Secretary (Esper) has similarly expressed disagreement with Trump's threat to use the military to halt protests.
It has become abundantly apparent that he doesn't know how to do his job within the confines of the Constitution. How much can we depend on the military to resist orders to defy their constitutional role
Wally your reply:
i'd say they would follow orders as to not to will result in more destruction, death or injury, mayhem if rioting, looting and burning are allowed to continue...and you have a strange definition of peaceful...
My post in answer to you was referring to where Trump had a path cleared through peaceful protesters using pepper balls & rubber bullets against peaceful protesters so he could go to the church & hold up a bible just for photo op!
Geeze, wally please try to "keep up!" that doesn't change a thing concerning your post...keep up
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Post by dmmichgood on Jun 4, 2020 22:09:22 GMT -5
I was answering your post about your remark on Bob Williston post!
Bob's post:
As of this week, we have serious warning that the constitution has been suspended, whether it's technically martial law or not.
How does the Attorney General get the authority to order the gassing and rubber bullet shooting of peaceful protesters?
Why does the President's wish for a photo option call for the dispersio of a peacefully gathered by force?
And once he got there for his picture, he had nothing whatsoever to say about what it meant or what was happening.
His handpicked Defense Secretary now condemns Trump's threat to use the military to dominate American civilians. (Mattis)
His present Defense Secretary (Esper) has similarly expressed disagreement with Trump's threat to use the military to halt protests.
It has become abundantly apparent that he doesn't know how to do his job within the confines of the Constitution. How much can we depend on the military to resist orders to defy their constitutional role
Wally your reply:
i'd say they would follow orders as to not to will result in more destruction, death or injury, mayhem if rioting, looting and burning are allowed to continue...and you have a strange definition of peaceful...
My post in answer to you was referring to where Trump had a path cleared through peaceful protesters using pepper balls & rubber bullets against peaceful protesters so he could go to the church & hold up a bible just for photo op!
Geeze, wally please try to "keep up!" that doesn't change a thing concerning your post...keep up Well, wally, -of course I am aware by now that you have trouble with anything that might counter your view.
But you aren't able to show any place where those protesters were doing anything disruptive or illegal that might require a pepper bombs & rubber bullets attack.
It was just so Trump could make a picture of himself holding a Bible in front of a church! Even religious leaders are denouncing Trump for using the bible & the church for political purposes.
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