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Post by janj on Apr 18, 2020 18:51:32 GMT -5
In another thread, someone referred to the mockers and scoffers on TMB. The problem is that some people think any discussion of something near and dear to their hearts is hate or mockery. Some can't stand to see their viewpoints challenged. Some grow up thinking mom and dad are right about everything. They find their little world turned upside down when childhood beliefs are challenged. The ones challenging this kind of mindset are full of hate. I don't think there are mockers and scoffers here. Very few, in fact. Many love to go back to the past and share memories of older workers and friends of yesterday. Many had good experiences in the meetings but chose a different path when they became adults. That doesn't mean some won't point out power abuse when it arises. That doesn't mean they gloss over abuse or hurt from their childhood either. There is NO human group that doesn't have problems and isn't worthy of criticism now and then. If you grew up unable to question the group's beliefs or actions, welcome to reality. I absolutely agree,and if you put something on here expect to have it challenged-all good-except when you are publishing something that was not meant for you. Interestingly-when I challenged you, I got a very catty 'nastish' private message saying I had no right to do so etc. You certainly didnt like your actions questioned.
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Post by iam on Apr 18, 2020 19:42:47 GMT -5
These posts are cracking me up!😂 People get so offended when they don’t agree with something someone else does or says and really it all seems so petty. I could care less personally if I write or say something that gets broadcast all over the world. I have nothing to hide. It doesn’t matter if people disagree with what I said or did. It is what it is. I don’t find Gill’s motives to be unscrupulous and it’s interesting to see people’s responses.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 18, 2020 20:24:10 GMT -5
I cringe at the thought of, much that is written on here being ‘broadcast all over the world!’
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Post by Deleted on Apr 18, 2020 21:22:44 GMT -5
These posts are cracking me up!😂 People get so offended when they don’t agree with something someone else does or says and really it all seems so petty. I could care less personally if I write or say something that gets broadcast all over the world. I have nothing to hide. It doesn’t matter if people disagree with what I said or did. It is what it is. I don’t find Gill’s motives to be unscrupulous and it’s interesting to see people’s responses. ummm would you say the same if your real name was attached?
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Post by iam on Apr 18, 2020 22:16:19 GMT -5
These posts are cracking me up!😂 People get so offended when they don’t agree with something someone else does or says and really it all seems so petty. I could care less personally if I write or say something that gets broadcast all over the world. I have nothing to hide. It doesn’t matter if people disagree with what I said or did. It is what it is. I don’t find Gill’s motives to be unscrupulous and it’s interesting to see people’s responses. ummm would you say the same if your real name was attached? Yes Wally, I would.
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Post by iam on Apr 18, 2020 22:25:54 GMT -5
ummm would you say the same if your real name was attached? Yes Wally, I would. I am just the very same person on here as I am anywhere else under any other name. I am just as ignorant, loving, stubborn, annoying, caring, concerned, hypocritical, and a stuffed shirt as I am in person. Sometimes people might like me sometimes they won’t. That’s ok.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 18, 2020 22:26:28 GMT -5
ummm would you say the same if your real name was attached? Yes Wally, I would. If you are professing, do you consider everything you say on here is considerate of how ‘your fellow church members’ may feel being represented in the wide world ( including journalists, TV. Producers ). Just curious.
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Post by iam on Apr 18, 2020 22:36:59 GMT -5
If you are professing, do you consider everything you say on here is considerate of how ‘your fellow church members’ may feel being represented in the wide world ( including journalists, TV. Producers ). Just curious. I don’t think it’s inconsiderate at all. I just express my own feelings and thoughts and if that offends people in my church that’s their problem. In fact I say what I say here to them as much as possible too. Honesty is rare.
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Post by iam on Apr 18, 2020 22:56:31 GMT -5
Saying something/ expressing what’s true to you, on here and/or to folks in person is different to ‘conveying you are comfortable’, that the whole world may be reading it. It seems like it’s the same
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Post by Deleted on Apr 18, 2020 23:29:54 GMT -5
If you are professing, do you consider everything you say on here is considerate of how ‘your fellow church members’ may feel being represented in the wide world ( including journalists, TV. Producers ). Just curious. I don’t think it’s inconsiderate at all. I just express my own feelings and thoughts and if that offends people in my church that’s their problem. In fact I say what I say here to them as much as possible too. Honesty is rare. I'll take honesty over almost anything.
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Post by BobWilliston on Apr 18, 2020 23:59:26 GMT -5
If you are professing, do you consider everything you say on here is considerate of how ‘your fellow church members’ may feel being represented in the wide world ( including journalists, TV. Producers ). Just curious. I don’t think it’s inconsiderate at all. I just express my own feelings and thoughts and if that offends people in my church that’s their problem. In fact I say what I say here to them as much as possible too. Honesty is rare. I've met people like you in meeting. Their feelings and thoughts, even when honest, are still nothing more than their own thoughts -- neither necessary, true, caring, or even appropriate; and reserving the right to be offensive is not a virtue.
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Post by BobWilliston on Apr 19, 2020 0:02:03 GMT -5
Saying something/ expressing what’s true to you, on here and/or to folks in person is different to ‘conveying you are comfortable’, that the whole world may be reading it. It seems like it’s the same Do you have no expectation of privacy for yourself?
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Post by BobWilliston on Apr 19, 2020 0:03:15 GMT -5
I don’t think it’s inconsiderate at all. I just express my own feelings and thoughts and if that offends people in my church that’s their problem. In fact I say what I say here to them as much as possible too. Honesty is rare. I'll take honesty over almost anything. Then tell your wife she'd fat and ugly.
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Post by iam on Apr 19, 2020 0:05:26 GMT -5
I don’t think it’s inconsiderate at all. I just express my own feelings and thoughts and if that offends people in my church that’s their problem. In fact I say what I say here to them as much as possible too. Honesty is rare. I've met people like you in meeting. Their feelings and thoughts, even when honest, are still nothing more than their own thoughts -- neither necessary, true, caring, or even appropriate; and reserving the right to be offensive is not a virtue. Yes Bob. I’ve been in meetings with people like you too. It’s not easy, is it? It’s easy to see someone else as offensive but not see it in ourselves. Probably that’s why many leave. I am trying to care for the ones that I find most offensive. That’s why I am still in meetings. I love those people in spite of themselves. It doesn’t matter if it’s not mutual.
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Post by iam on Apr 19, 2020 0:09:57 GMT -5
It seems like it’s the same Do you have no expectation of privacy for yourself? No actually I don’t for the most part.
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Post by BobWilliston on Apr 19, 2020 0:10:46 GMT -5
I've met people like you in meeting. Their feelings and thoughts, even when honest, are still nothing more than their own thoughts -- neither necessary, true, caring, or even appropriate; and reserving the right to be offensive is not a virtue. Yes Bob. I’ve been in meetings with people like you too. It’s not easy, is it? It’s easy to see someone else as offensive but not see it in ourselves. Probably that’s why many leave. I am trying to care for the ones that I find most offensive. That’s why I am still in meetings. I love those people in spite of themselves. It doesn’t matter if it’s not mutual. I thought you said you didn't mind offending people in that manner yourself.
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Post by iam on Apr 19, 2020 0:11:34 GMT -5
I'll take honesty over almost anything. Then tell your wife she'd fat and ugly. There’s being honest and then there’s being just plain rude. Why would you even BE with your wife and say that? How home is that!? Yeah!
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Post by iam on Apr 19, 2020 0:13:02 GMT -5
Yes Bob. I’ve been in meetings with people like you too. It’s not easy, is it? It’s easy to see someone else as offensive but not see it in ourselves. Probably that’s why many leave. I am trying to care for the ones that I find most offensive. That’s why I am still in meetings. I love those people in spite of themselves. It doesn’t matter if it’s not mutual. I thought you said you didn't mind offending people in that manner yourself. I don’t mind. What makes you think I do? Because I responded to you my thoughts?
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Post by BobWilliston on Apr 19, 2020 0:14:33 GMT -5
Do you have no expectation of privacy for yourself? No actually I don’t for the most part. I've worked with people like that. They don't endear themselves to a lot of people. One's own business is one's own business -- TMI.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 19, 2020 0:14:48 GMT -5
It’s years since I’ve been part of that referenced Christian ‘family’ but I think of a natural family, sometimes we have to show a bit of wisdom in what we say. I think of belonging to a group, sometimes discretion is called for.
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Post by iam on Apr 19, 2020 0:17:44 GMT -5
No actually I don’t for the most part. I've worked with people like that. They don't endear themselves to a lot of people. One's own business is one's own business -- TMI. Well you’ve never worked with me. And honestly, you haven’t got a clue because I have worked with a lot of people and had very good rapport with my colleagues. It sounds like would be the exception, by your own choice.
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Post by speak on Apr 19, 2020 0:29:44 GMT -5
It’s years since I’ve been part of that referenced Christian ‘family’ but I think of a natural family, sometimes we have to show a bit of wisdom in what we say. I think of belonging to a group, sometimes discretion is called for. I was just thinking of wisdom when reading through this thread and wondering where was it?
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Post by BobWilliston on Apr 19, 2020 0:44:11 GMT -5
I've worked with people like that. They don't endear themselves to a lot of people. One's own business is one's own business -- TMI. Well you’ve never worked with me. And honestly, you haven’t got a clue because I have worked with a lot of people and had very good rapport with my colleagues. It sounds like would be the exception, by your own choice. No, I wouldn't be an exception. I'd be like the rest of them and realize that the best option is to just no cross you if at all possible.
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Post by iam on Apr 19, 2020 0:57:36 GMT -5
Well you’ve never worked with me. And honestly, you haven’t got a clue because I have worked with a lot of people and had very good rapport with my colleagues. It sounds like would be the exception, by your own choice. No, I wouldn't be an exception. I'd be like the rest of them and realize that the best option is to just no cross you if at all possible. If it makes you feel better about yourself 🙄
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Post by Deleted on Apr 24, 2020 1:24:02 GMT -5
I'll take honesty over almost anything. Then tell your wife she'd fat and ugly. I couldn't - it would be a lie.
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Post by BobWilliston on Apr 24, 2020 1:25:48 GMT -5
Then tell your wife she'd fat and ugly. I couldn't - it would be a lie. Just try it. See what happens.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 24, 2020 1:26:56 GMT -5
I couldn't - it would be a lie. Just try it. See what happens. I cannot tell a lie... hard to when you're missing several front teeth 😆
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Post by slowtosee on Apr 26, 2020 10:46:30 GMT -5
I cringe at the thought of, much that is written on here being ‘broadcast all over the world!’ Not sure there is too much credence given to inflammatory posts from anonymous posters on some “internet “ board ? Alvin
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