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Post by mapi on Apr 3, 2020 19:45:46 GMT -5
Those who were on the edge of leaving might find it easy to exit this way.Workers at home with family and friends just not returning
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Post by xna on Apr 3, 2020 19:54:04 GMT -5
Those who were on the edge of leaving might find it easy to exit this way.Workers at home with family and friends just not returning My guess the 2x2 will survive Covid-19. Traditions, peer pressure, and the fear of hell will not go away. This holds church members together. The 2x2 should have almost no expenses when in hibernation mode. The same is not the case for most other churches.
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Post by curlywurlysammagee on Apr 3, 2020 20:00:00 GMT -5
Those who were on the edge of leaving might find it easy to exit this way.Workers at home with family and friends just not returning I know quite a few who seem to treat it as a social club. Plenty of other social clubs around if that's how you get your jollies.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 3, 2020 20:05:40 GMT -5
Those who were on the edge of leaving might find it easy to exit this way.Workers at home with family and friends just not returning your eagarness for the end of the truth is quite transparent....
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Post by Deleted on Apr 3, 2020 20:23:12 GMT -5
Truth is about acceptance of reality. To do that you first of all have to be honest with yourself.
Honesty is not just about telling the truth. It's about being real with yourself and others about who you are, what you want and what you need to live your most authentic life. Honesty promotes openness, empowers us and enables us to develop consistency in how we present the facts.
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Post by nathan on Apr 3, 2020 20:36:18 GMT -5
Those who were on the edge of leaving might find it easy to exit this way.Workers at home with family and friends just not returning your eagarness for the end of the truth is quite transparent.... The anti-truth and Way of Jesus Can't destroy His Truth and Way on earth. This was foretold by Jesus, His apostles and others through the centuries, where the RCC and many Protestant denomination and the ex-2x2 have tried to destroy from the face of the earth and they have failed for 2000 years.
Jesus said to Peter and the apostles in Matthew 16:18 "And I say also unto thee, That thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it." Jesus said Satan and his evil children on earth can't destroy His TRUE church on earth! History has proven Satan and his evil children tried for 2000 yrs and failed... I don't think Corona Virus can't destroy Christ's Truth and Way on earth.
Acts 5: 34 Then stood there up one in the council, a Pharisee, named Gamaliel, a doctor of the law, had in reputation among all the people, and commanded to put the apostles forth a little space; And said unto them, Ye men of Israel, take heed to yourselves what ye intend to do as touching these men. For before these days rose up Theudas, boasting himself to be somebody; to whom a number of men, about four hundred, joined themselves: who was slain; and all, as many as obeyed him, were scattered, and brought to nought.
After this man rose up Judas of Galilee in the days of the taxing, and drew away much people after him: he also perished; and all, even as many as obeyed him, were dispersed. And now I say unto you, Refrain from these men, and let them alone: for if this counsel or this work be of men, it will come to nought: But if it be of God, ye cannot overthrow it; lest haply ye be found even to fight against God.
Paul wrote 2 Corinthians 13:8 For we cannot do anything against the truth, but only for the truth.
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Post by janj on Apr 3, 2020 22:28:59 GMT -5
Those who were on the edge of leaving might find it easy to exit this way.Workers at home with family and friends just not returning My guess the 2x2 will survive Covid-19. Traditions, peer pressure, and the fear of hell will not go away. This holds church members together. The 2x2 should have almost no expenses when in hibernation mode. The same is not the case for most other churches. Does it ever occur to you that for most of the 2x2s, like other committed Christians their faith is one of the most, if not the most important part of their lives. At a time of great uncertainty as we have now I am more grateful than ever that I have God in my life.I dont expect you to understand that but believe me tradition, peer pressure and fear of hell are not the reasons I have a relationship with God.
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Post by curlywurlysammagee on Apr 4, 2020 0:03:57 GMT -5
My guess the 2x2 will survive Covid-19. Traditions, peer pressure, and the fear of hell will not go away. This holds church members together. The 2x2 should have almost no expenses when in hibernation mode. The same is not the case for most other churches. Does it ever occur to you that for most of the 2x2s, like other committed Christians their faith is one of the most, if not the most important part of their lives. At a time of great uncertainty as we have now I am more grateful than ever that I have God in my life.I dont expect you to understand that but believe me tradition, peer pressure and fear of hell are not the reasons I have a relationship with God. That did not occur to me. From the posts on here it would appear their business's are the most important part of their lives. Closely followed by dodgy youtube videos.
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Post by janj on Apr 4, 2020 1:01:03 GMT -5
Does it ever occur to you that for most of the 2x2s, like other committed Christians their faith is one of the most, if not the most important part of their lives. At a time of great uncertainty as we have now I am more grateful than ever that I have God in my life.I dont expect you to understand that but believe me tradition, peer pressure and fear of hell are not the reasons I have a relationship with God. That did not occur to me. From the posts on here it would appear their business's are the most important part of their lives. Closely followed by dodgy youtube videos. I was a totally referring to Zna's post but that's OK.Did it ever occur to you that the 2x2s that post on here are not a cross section or a true representation of the 2x2s. 99% of them don't bother to post on here. It is also very easy to judge what you think a person is like from what you read here and I think we are often way off. I'm sure you are are quite different to the impression you give on here:)
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Post by curlywurlysammagee on Apr 4, 2020 1:03:47 GMT -5
That did not occur to me. From the posts on here it would appear their business's are the most important part of their lives. Closely followed by dodgy youtube videos. I was a totally referring to Zenas post but that's OK.Did it ever occur to you that the 2x2s that post on here are not a cross section or a true representation of the 2x2s. 99% of them don't bother to post on here. It is also very easy to judge what you think a person is like from what you read here and I think we are often way off. I'm sure you are are quite different to the impression you give on here:) Yer in real life I am a really nasty sod who goes round killing old peoples cats.
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Post by janj on Apr 4, 2020 1:04:56 GMT -5
I was a totally referring to Zenas post but that's OK.Did it ever occur to you that the 2x2s that post on here are not a cross section or a true representation of the 2x2s. 99% of them don't bother to post on here. It is also very easy to judge what you think a person is like from what you read here and I think we are often way off. I'm sure you are are quite different to the impression you give on here:) Yer in real life I am a really nasty sod who goes round killing old peoples cats. Oh..I was right after all!
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Post by curlywurlysammagee on Apr 4, 2020 1:27:16 GMT -5
Yer in real life I am a really nasty sod who goes round killing old peoples cats. Oh..I was right after all! Have you got a cat?
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Post by xna on Apr 4, 2020 1:28:47 GMT -5
My guess the 2x2 will survive Covid-19. Traditions, peer pressure, and the fear of hell will not go away. This holds church members together. The 2x2 should have almost no expenses when in hibernation mode. The same is not the case for most other churches. Does it ever occur to you that for most of the 2x2s, like other committed Christians their faith is one of the most, if not the most important part of their lives. At a time of great uncertainty as we have now I am more grateful than ever that I have God in my life.I dont expect you to understand that but believe me tradition, peer pressure and fear of hell are not the reasons I have a relationship with God. “Their faith“ being the most important thing is what drives them to gather in churches now instead of sheltering in place. They abandon common sense and rational thought, and are guided by superstitions. Putting “their faith” above the common welfare of others is selfishness by any other name regardless of how much they praise god for being their only hope and praise him for being on there side. Having god on your side is only in your mind. That idea may comfort you but you can do no good deed for another with those thoughts that you could not do without those thoughts. The people in Jonestown and Heaven Gate cults also had same strong delusion that god was their only hope and savior. If you can get past your own fear only then can you begin to think about others. A strong faith where that is the most important thing in your life is all about saving yourself and letting god sort out the others. It’s times like these that we need people to think about others first rather than cling to a “save me” centered faith. Covid-19 doesn’t care what you think or what god you pray to. It responds only to your interactions with others not your interactions with any gods. Christianity created a fake disease and then sells you fake medicine. You don’t need to be saved from anything except superstitions.
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Post by speak on Apr 4, 2020 2:48:35 GMT -5
I was a totally referring to Zenas post but that's OK.Did it ever occur to you that the 2x2s that post on here are not a cross section or a true representation of the 2x2s. 99% of them don't bother to post on here. It is also very easy to judge what you think a person is like from what you read here and I think we are often way off. I'm sure you are are quite different to the impression you give on here:) Yer in real life I am a really nasty sod who goes round killing old peoples cats.
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Post by mountain on Apr 4, 2020 3:44:14 GMT -5
Those who were on the edge of leaving might find it easy to exit this way.Workers at home with family and friends just not returning I know quite a few who seem to treat it as a social club. Plenty of other social clubs around if that's how you get your jollies.How do you practice social distancing at a social club?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 4, 2020 3:50:19 GMT -5
I know quite a few who seem to treat it as a social club. Plenty of other social clubs around if that's how you get your jollies.How do you practice social distancing at a social club? Let go a big fart.
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Post by Pragmatic on Apr 4, 2020 4:30:51 GMT -5
I recall a worker who delighted in putting down people’s cats in our district once. I think he was trying to quell people’s doubts as to his masculinity.
We had an old cat, and was going to deal to it too, until he was told that our cat was not his cat, and we would decide it’s fate. The cat lived for a few more good years
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Post by mountain on Apr 4, 2020 5:24:32 GMT -5
How do you practice social distancing at a social club? Let go a big fart. At the moment a simple cough would be suffice but it would lack the glee!
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Post by fred on Apr 4, 2020 5:44:45 GMT -5
At the moment a simple cough would be suffice but it would lack the glee! I used to cough to disguise my farts, now I fart to disguise my cough.
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Post by mountain on Apr 4, 2020 6:51:04 GMT -5
At the moment a simple cough would be suffice but it would lack the glee! I used to cough to disguise my farts, now I fart to disguise my cough. You need to change back my dear friend. You should never put the fart before the cough!
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Post by curlywurlysammagee on Apr 4, 2020 10:48:51 GMT -5
I recall a worker who delighted in putting down people’s cats in our district once. I think he was trying to quell people’s doubts as to his masculinity. We had an old cat, and was going to deal to it too, until he was told that our cat was not his cat, and we would decide it’s fate. The cat lived for a few more good years Hmmmm, that brings back memories. I also knew of a worker that loved knocking cats on the head. Wonder if it was the same one or was it a worker thing.
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Post by Annan on Apr 4, 2020 11:06:24 GMT -5
I recall a worker who delighted in putting down people’s cats in our district once. I think he was trying to quell people’s doubts as to his masculinity. We had an old cat, and was going to deal to it too, until he was told that our cat was not his cat, and we would decide it’s fate. The cat lived for a few more good years Hmmmm, that brings back memories. I also knew of a worker that loved knocking cats on the head. Wonder if it was the same one or was it a worker thing. It amazes me the things the friends put up with because it came from a worker. I remember the workers being at my parents' house. They totally ignored me. I could have cared less, but what bugged me is that my parents said nothing. Funny... okay, not funny... how under their thumb people are when it comes to the workers. All I can think of is that somehow people think the workers hold their salvation in their hands. What else could it be?
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Post by slowtosee on Apr 4, 2020 11:55:57 GMT -5
At the moment a simple cough would be suffice but it would lack the glee! I used to cough to disguise my farts, now I fart to disguise my cough. One of the symptoms of having coronavirus is your loss of smell, so if you need a defence , you tell the victums you are unselfishly and with them in mind , doing a free health check for them. Please inform us here on your results . It does take a while to educate ignorant people , but in time ..... it’s a new reality and use opportunities provided ....... oh , man. Health check happening again ..... Thankyou SIR for your consideration. This guy might become one of thr worlds unsung - well ok - dung ah sung heroes yet ..... m.youtube.com/watch?v=tlPz3W8V2_Q
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Post by snow on Apr 4, 2020 14:37:41 GMT -5
At the moment a simple cough would be suffice but it would lack the glee! LOL or wear a mask. People scatter when they see you coming!
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Post by janj on Apr 4, 2020 15:55:48 GMT -5
Does it ever occur to you that for most of the 2x2s, like other committed Christians their faith is one of the most, if not the most important part of their lives. At a time of great uncertainty as we have now I am more grateful than ever that I have God in my life.I dont expect you to understand that but believe me tradition, peer pressure and fear of hell are not the reasons I have a relationship with God. “Their faith“ being the most important thing is what drives them to gather in churches now instead of sheltering in place. They abandon common sense and rational thought, and are guided by superstitions. Putting “their faith” above the common welfare of others is selfishness by any other name regardless of how much they praise god for being their only hope and praise him for being on there side. Having god on your side is only in your mind. That idea may comfort you but you can do no good deed for another with those thoughts that you could not do without those thoughts. The people in Jonestown and Heaven Gate cults also had same strong delusion that god was their only hope and savior. If you can get past your own fear only then can you begin to think about others. A strong faith where that is the most important thing in your life is all about saving yourself and letting god sort out the others. It’s times like these that we need people to think about others first rather than cling to a “save me” centered faith. Covid-19 doesn’t care what you think or what god you pray to. It responds only to your interactions with others not your interactions with any gods. Christianity created a fake disease and then sells you fake medicine. You don’t need to be saved from anything except superstitions. I certainly dont agree with ignoring advice and gathering together- just stupid. While fellowship is special you can worship God alone in your own home. A strong faith is all about saving yourself? I totally disagree but if you dont get it you dont get it! Stay safe everyone.
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Post by xna on Apr 4, 2020 16:23:11 GMT -5
I certainly dont agree with ignoring advice and gathering together- just stupid. Good to hear A strong faith is all about saving yourself? I totally disagree but if you dont get it you dont get it! Christianity runs on fearEcclesiastes 12:13 Let us hear the conclusion of the whole matter: Fear God, and keep his commandments: for this is the whole duty of man. The prime mater of Christianity is that your soul becomes saved, so you get to go to heaven. You are to worry about yourself first. Matthew 7:3-5 And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother's eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye? Or how wilt thou say to thy brother, Let me pull out the mote out of thine eye; and, behold, a beam is in thine own eye? Thou hypocrite, first cast out the beam out of thine own eye; and then shalt thou see clearly to cast out the mote out of thy brother's eye. Improved versionStay safe everyone by following the guidance from science and evidence based medicine, and please ignore the faith healing instructions from the bible.
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Post by Grant on Apr 4, 2020 16:50:22 GMT -5
I certainly dont agree with ignoring advice and gathering together- just stupid. Good to hear A strong faith is all about saving yourself? I totally disagree but if you dont get it you dont get it! Christianity runs on fearEcclesiastes 12:13 Let us hear the conclusion of the whole matter: Fear God, and keep his commandments: for this is the whole duty of man. The prime mater of Christianity is that your soul becomes saved, so you get to go to heaven. You are to worry about yourself first. Matthew 7:3-5 And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother's eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye? Or how wilt thou say to thy brother, Let me pull out the mote out of thine eye; and, behold, a beam is in thine own eye? Thou hypocrite, first cast out the beam out of thine own eye; and then shalt thou see clearly to cast out the mote out of thy brother's eye. Improved versionStay safe everyone by following the guidance from science and evidence based medicine, and please ignore the faith healing instructions from the bible. Re going to heaven and thinking of our selves first. When I give presents to my children am I thinking just of myself or my children? It may have been a big sacrifice for me to give them presents. Do you think as an adult that you only think of the presents you will get or do you think it's nice but that birthdays can have another meaning. Children may think of the presents but as adults I don't think that's an issue.
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Post by xna on Apr 4, 2020 17:03:10 GMT -5
Re going to heaven and thinking of our selves first. When I give presents to my children am I thinking just of myself or my children? It may have been a big sacrifice for me to give them presents. Most if not all acts of altruism are in fact really acts of reciprocal altruism. You get something out of it. Can you name one act of altruism where you did NOT get something in return? Do you think as an adult that you only think of the presents you will get or do you think it's nice but that birthdays can have another meaning. Children may think of the presents but as adults I don't think that's an issue. I'm just happy to be alive at my age to see another birthday. ------------------------------------------------- The father / father analogy doesn't work as a "human father" and "god the father" are not comparable. Human fathers are not omnipotent, omniscient and omnipresent. Most human are much better than the god of the bible. For one example; I doubt you built a dungeon in your basement to torture those kids who don't obey you.
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