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Post by nathan on Mar 29, 2020 23:53:30 GMT -5
Doesn’t matter how you interpret Adam and Eve, but DNA is not mentioned in the bible. It’s a modern discovery which had nothing to do with the bible. Now it’s time for you to answer my question please.. That's just hilarious!! DNA is a modern discovery! God knew about it all along and man just figured it out and thinks they're so smart. Amen. DNA has always been here in the Universe for billions of years when God the Father and Christ created the angels, and billions intelligence life in other planets and the humans just discovered it in 1869. In 1869, Swiss physiological chemist Friedrich Miescher first identified what he called "nuclein" in the nuclei of human white blood cells, which we know today as deoxyribonucleic acid (DNA). Miescher's original plan had been to isolate and characterise the protein components of white blood cells. www.dna-worldwide.com/resource/160/history-dna-timeline
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Post by curlywurlysammagee on Mar 29, 2020 23:56:08 GMT -5
King James who authorized the KJV was into buggery. He preferred young or teen boys. Perhaps that's why the christians still have a fascination for it. Must take one to know one Pathetic. Learn your history. Take your myopic blinkers off.
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Post by ant_rotten on Mar 30, 2020 0:04:02 GMT -5
That's just hilarious!! DNA is a modern discovery! God knew about it all along and man just figured it out and thinks they're so smart. Amen. DNA has always been here in the Universe for billions of years when God the Father and Christ created the angels, and billions intelligence life in other planets and the humans just discovered it in 1869. In 1869, Swiss physiological chemist Friedrich Miescher first identified what he called "nuclein" in the nuclei of human white blood cells, which we know today as deoxyribonucleic acid (DNA). Miescher's original plan had been to isolate and characterise the protein components of white blood cells. www.dna-worldwide.com/resource/160/history-dna-timelineYou just contradicted yourself here Nathan in relation to DNA not being a modern discovery. Hilarious!!
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Post by nathan on Mar 30, 2020 0:07:39 GMT -5
Glad to. 1. Science is from "Scire", Latin for "to know". So, science is a means by which we can know something. The means is the "Scientific Method". So then, "Science"is a means to know something, using a certain method. There are many ways to know something. Different minds find in there various ways different levels of satisfaction. To name a few, a. We can know something by intuition. Some would consider this "revelation" if the act of knowing were intertwined with a religious experience. b. We can know something by a combination of faith and trust. Belief in the unerring word of scripture would go in this category, as we need faith to believe in God(s), and trust in the validity of other people's revelations. c. We can know something by logical conversation (aka Rationalism). Plato, is the classic Greek rationalist (of the post-Socratics), who wrote copious amounts of work involving discourse, while not bothering himself with investigation of the natural world. Decartes (my avatar, left) generally revived this method of pure rationalism. d. We can know by observation and experiments. (aka Empiricism). Plato's student, Aristotle, is the classic Greek post-Socratic empiricist. I've read Aristotle's entire biological works, and his powers of observation were astounding. He saw beauty in the smallest insect, and is by far the most influential human in the course of historical thought. Sir Francis Bacon is generally considered to be the reviver of this method, and is often called the Father of the Scientific Method (a title shared by many for the reason that supports my initial thesis that science as we use it, is man made.) So then, science has no claims on a. or b. Science is empirical and observational, while simultaneously methodical and rational. There is no "top down" authority in science, and scientific discoveries can be made by people of all (and no) faiths. Features of scientific methodology which indicate it isn't God's creation are... 1. Systematic doubt. Science attempts to disprove its ideas, the thought being that if they cannot be disproved, they are reliable. Would you trust a scientist in a lab coat, beckoning you to walk on water, and chiding you saying "where is your faith?" Of course not, and you'd be right not to, but that was what Jesus required of Peter. 2. Peer review, where there peers are the authority. Science is open, and discoveries are rigorously reviewed prior to publication. Did God create peer review system where the majority consensus determined anything? (Obviously this is actually the case. We call them different denominations and religions. However, rather than the Protestants&Catholics, or Shia&Sunni reviewing prayer notes and finding a consensus, they are instead happy to kill each other. By contrast, the bitter rivalry between Koch and Pasteur produced the Golden age of Microbiolgy, and the saved lives of millions from disease.) 3. Last (and to me, most important), science is ALWAYS open to new evidence, and no scientific concept is sacred. This is because scientific ideas are not absolute and set in stone. IF science (as the term is rightfully used) was created by God, the conclusions would have to be as unmoving and absolute as the creator of it, and the Creator would HAVE to be subject to investigation and tested rigorously. A brief reading of Job (if that's a possible thing) tells us that God is absolutely not open to being questioned. The God of the bible, at least, did not create a method that allows us to practice it on him. Well, Job and 3 friends were saying things about God which they had no clue of, and they were out of line. Job chapters 38-30 God explained to Job about His creation and he had no idea or any knowledge of how God did it... If Job and his 3 friends didn't understand how God did it and they tried to judge God whom they KNEW what was going behind the scene between Him and Satan were fight for Job's soul and their also.
Don't judge or say Negative things about God when we have no idea what taken in the spiritual realm. God told Job to pray for his 3 friends then He will forgive their sins.
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Post by iam on Mar 30, 2020 0:11:05 GMT -5
A true story
This a situation I dealt with years ago. A little old lady would come into the emergency department where I worked and she was the epitomy of the classic little old lady. Prim and proper without a hair out of place, sitting there demurely knitting for the hospital auxiliary. Every week she came in for IV hydration, which kept her alive. Occasionally it was my turn to give her her IV therapy. She must have figured out I was religious (bun, skirt) because she would always talk to me about how when she died she was going to out God in His place. She looked like this little saint but she had a hatred for God and she took every chance she could to tell me. You can't change anyone that doesn't want to change but I remember thinking, wow, what a place to he in just before you're about to die. Well, IV hydration doesn't keep an old lady alive for long and sure enough she was admitted to the hospital to die. She wouldn't eat or drink and had orders not to be resuscitated. Soon she was unconscious and for several days we turned her regularly every 2-3 hours. I wondered if she would die on a shift that I would be working. Sure enough, it was a night shift and sometime past midnight when we heard a loud crash. We ran down the hall towards the sound and into her room. This completely unconscious, dying little lady had jumped right out of the bed and landed on the floor sitting with her back against the wall and I have never seen such a look of terror in my whole life. I couldn't even imagine a look like that, haven't even seen anything like it in a horror movie. And she took one big gasp and she was gone. She couldn't have been an atheist because she obviously believed there was a God and she was going to teach Him a thing or two. But whenever I hear people despising God through unbelief, I think of that woman.
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Post by ant_rotten on Mar 30, 2020 0:12:05 GMT -5
Well, Job and 3 friends were saying things about God which they had no clue of, and they were out of line. Job chapters 38-30 God explained to Job about His creation and he had no idea or any knowledge of how God did it... If Job and his 3 friends didn't understand how God did it and they tried to judge God whom they KNEW what was going behind the scene between Him and Satan were fight for Job's soul and their also.
Don't judge or say Negative things about God when we have no idea what taken in the spiritual realm. God told Job to pray for his 3 friends then He will forgive their sins. Well nice of you to comment on the bold section of ipsedixit’s post.. what’s your thought on the rest of it.. or didn’t you read that part..
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Post by iam on Mar 30, 2020 0:12:19 GMT -5
That's just hilarious!! DNA is a modern discovery! God knew about it all along and man just figured it out and thinks they're so smart. Whether or not your god has known about it all along, it is still a modern discovery no matter how much you and you buddy Nathan want to deny it. Why didn’t the people of the bible discover it then? I’ll tell you why, because they had no idea about anything.. Ant, dear, you're my buddy too♥️🙄. Take a deep breath. It doesn't really matter.
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Post by curlywurlysammagee on Mar 30, 2020 0:14:01 GMT -5
I still have not seen any pandemics that dog fixed, added to the list
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Post by ant_rotten on Mar 30, 2020 0:14:24 GMT -5
Whether or not your god has known about it all along, it is still a modern discovery no matter how much you and you buddy Nathan want to deny it. Why didn’t the people of the bible discover it then? I’ll tell you why, because they had no idea about anything.. Ant, dear, you're my buddy too♥️🙄. Take a deep breath. It doesn't really matter. Why, thank you 😎
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Post by iam on Mar 30, 2020 0:20:03 GMT -5
Must take one to know one Pathetic. Learn your history. Take your myopic blinkers off. No really. I don't think it's pathetic. Maybe I should be putting my "myopic blinkers" ON! 🤣🤣🤣
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Post by iam on Mar 30, 2020 0:28:03 GMT -5
I still have not seen any pandemics that dog fixed, added to the list Curls, dear you're like a dog with a bone.😏
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Post by curlywurlysammagee on Mar 30, 2020 1:00:54 GMT -5
I still have not seen any pandemics that dog fixed, added to the list Curls, dear you're like a dog with a bone.😏 Start listing all those pandemics that your god has fixed. I am eagerly awaiting to see the result.
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Post by iam on Mar 30, 2020 1:04:26 GMT -5
Curls, dear you're like a dog with a bone.😏 Start listing all those pandemics that your god has fixed. I am eagerly awaiting to see the result. No, our dear Curls. That's your forte not mine.
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Post by curlywurlysammagee on Mar 30, 2020 1:09:09 GMT -5
Start listing all those pandemics that your god has fixed. I am eagerly awaiting to see the result. No, our dear Curls. That's your forte not mine. So far I am unable to think of any disease that your god has fixed. Perhaps you know of some?
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Post by iam on Mar 30, 2020 1:22:56 GMT -5
No, our dear Curls. That's your forte not mine. So far I am unable to think of any disease that your god has fixed. Perhaps you know of some?All the diseases that have been "fixed" come from the God who put it into the mind of man. But man doesn't do a very good job of it.
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Post by curlywurlysammagee on Mar 30, 2020 1:36:44 GMT -5
So far I am unable to think of any disease that your god has fixed. Perhaps you know of some? All the diseases that have been "fixed" come from the God who put it into the mind of man. But man doesn't do a very good job of it. yer right. Santa is real as well.
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Post by iam on Mar 30, 2020 1:40:29 GMT -5
All the diseases that have been "fixed" come from the God who put it into the mind of man. But man doesn't do a very good job of it. yer right. Santa is real as well. Well....DUH! You see him in every mall at Christmas time! Talk about stating the obvious!🎅
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Post by curlywurlysammagee on Mar 30, 2020 1:58:29 GMT -5
yer right. Santa is real as well. Well....DUH! You see him in every mall at Christmas time! Talk about stating the obvious!🎅 Nope, I don't go to malls. They are dens of iniquity.
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Post by iam on Mar 30, 2020 2:00:52 GMT -5
Well....DUH! You see him in every mall at Christmas time! Talk about stating the obvious!🎅 Nope, I don't go to malls. They are dens of iniquity. Really, Curls? That's so righteous of you. I'm proud of you! 🤗
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Post by curlywurlysammagee on Mar 30, 2020 2:02:41 GMT -5
Nope, I don't go to malls. They are dens of iniquity. Really, Curls? That's so righteous of you. I'm proud of you! 🤗 Actually, just between you and me I got asked to leave. They said all I needed to be safe at the mall was to wear a mask and gloves. They lied as everyone else wore clothes.
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Post by iam on Mar 30, 2020 2:10:15 GMT -5
Really, Curls? That's so righteous of you. I'm proud of you! 🤗 Actually, just between you and me I got asked to leave. They said all I needed to be safe at the mall was to wear a mask and gloves. They lied as everyone else wore clothes. Could I have been a tad accurate when I said takes one to know one? You're giving yourself away, Curls! And just when I was hopeful you had a change of heart😅
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Post by nathan on Mar 30, 2020 2:12:10 GMT -5
yer right. Santa is real as well. Well....DUH! You see him in every mall at Christmas time! Talk about stating the obvious!🎅 Sometimes, I see Mrs. Santa C. with him too! at the mall so, they must be REAL, eh.
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Post by iam on Mar 30, 2020 2:25:58 GMT -5
Well....DUH! You see him in every mall at Christmas time! Talk about stating the obvious!🎅 Sometimes, I see Mrs. Santa C. with him too! at the mall so, they must be REAL, eh.Never had my doubts, Nat. So real if you pinched them they'd say ouch too! But don't try that or you'll get banned from the mall like Curls. Just a heads up.😅
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Post by mountain on Mar 30, 2020 2:51:23 GMT -5
I'm baffled my dear Enzed friend? Your thread title appears to be asking the wrong question? Your post suggests it (your post) was a dead ringer answer to the oft asked question: Does Grats eat rice?
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Post by curlywurlysammagee on Mar 30, 2020 2:56:50 GMT -5
Sometimes, I see Mrs. Santa C. with him too! at the mall so, they must be REAL, eh. Never had my doubts, Nat. So real if you pinched them they'd say ouch too! But don't try that or you'll get banned from the mall like Curls. Just a heads up.😅 Have you managed to pinch your gods arse. If so what was the result?
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Post by dmmichgood on Mar 30, 2020 2:58:08 GMT -5
Hmmm, god created science yet it has only taken us 2000 years to make full use of it. Of cause that had nothing to do with the religious dogma that went a long way in holding us back for centuries now did it? You Christians like to claim science as the work and creation of god yet it was gods people that burnt great scientific thinkers at the stake for using it.. what a joke.. you seemed confused as to who was doing what...no real christian ever burnt someone at the stake...and yes thats a no true scotsman fallacy that just happens to be true... Only in your own vocabulary, wally, -only because YOU want & need to believe it is true.
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Post by curlywurlysammagee on Mar 30, 2020 3:04:01 GMT -5
I'm baffled my dear Enzed friend? Your thread title appears to be asking the wrong question? Your post suggests it (your post) was a dead ringer answer to the oft asked question: Does Grats eat rice? I am very sorry that you are baffled. Have you been high on Munro"s lately and deprived your brain of oxygen or rice. Or both. What a catastrophic issue that would be. Personally I think Grats is a secret rice eater and he has a stash hidden somewhere. Unfortunately the furry fiends have been into it and left black rice and consequently he now has lepto. He needs to come clean. Strip off to mask and gloves and sally forth to the nearest citadel. At the sound of the mighty trumpateers ably led by Mr Booth he will be cleansed.
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Post by iam on Mar 30, 2020 3:07:35 GMT -5
Never had my doubts, Nat. So real if you pinched them they'd say ouch too! But don't try that or you'll get banned from the mall like Curls. Just a heads up.😅 Have you managed to pinch your gods arse. If so what was the result? Curls, surely you have something better to think about? If everyone on here would quit peeing in your cornflakes maybe you could have a DECENT conversation about your God.
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