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Post by slowtosee on Mar 28, 2020 10:41:01 GMT -5
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Post by nathan on Mar 28, 2020 10:43:32 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Mar 28, 2020 13:39:26 GMT -5
The Pharma. companies are Trillions dollars business. They don't need to make any new Vaccines for COVID-19. They have two or three Vaccines that can cure Corona Virus that President Trump mentioned on the News. One of them the drugs that treat Malaria. They can sell these Vaccines they have in their stocks already.
Yesterday in Oregon News that a man had Corona Virus and he used one of the drugs that President Trump mentioned and he was cured in a few days! An updated guide to the coronavirus drugs and vaccines in development by the Chinese Pharma companies By Damian Garde @damiangarde March 19, 2020www.statnews.com/2020/03/19/an-updated-guide-to-the-coronavirus-drugs-and-vaccines-in-development/China has recovered from Corona Virus after a month of isolation... HOW in the world did they do that? They have the Vaccines that is how they have recovered from the Corona Virus man-made in the military Lab. in Wuhan, China.
China lies, Nathan. Did they let all the people out that they quarantined? Are they out walking the streets again? It was on NBC Nightly News that a man used a drug that the idiot president said could possibly cure covid19. The man died. Guess you missed that one. ummm no....the president talked about hydroxychloroquine(sp)? and the man drank chloroquine(sp)? an aquarium cleaner...just a bit different...a darwin award should be issued in this case...
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Post by snow on Mar 28, 2020 13:47:17 GMT -5
I agree that having a strong immune system is beneficial, bottom line there is nothing you can do if you have been exposed to it. Another thing that has been tossed out there is that non steroidal anti inflammatory like Motrin and advil make covid-19 worse. They just don't know if it does or doesn't so that information may or may not be correct. WHO has been advising people to use tylenol instead because they don't know. health.usnews.com/conditions/articles/coronavirus-and-ibuprofen-what-to-knowMy understanding is that there is no immunity to this beast. There isn't, but there have been cases where they think that ASA has made it harder to fight the virus. So that tells me that the immune systems health can be an asset for us to fight it, if that's even the right word. We know that those that are more likely to die from it are those with a compromised immune system. And, ASA does effect the bodies level of immunity apparently. Also the virus has been hard on the kidneys and ASA is also hard on kidneys from what I've been reading on some science sites that I think I can trust. So while it won't cure you or prevent you from getting it or even dying of it, I think what they are saying is that it may lower your ability to survive it. A precaution that they really don't know for sure yet will work. But good to know.
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Post by fixit on Mar 28, 2020 13:49:45 GMT -5
Before we get all carried away with conspiracy theories about China and COVID-19 it would be worth taking a look at the difference between China's methodical approach and the slackness of other countries.
Belatedly, the New Zealand border is now secure and will be for the foreseeable future.
China saw the enemy (also belatedly) but responded with determination. That's more than can be said for much of the world.
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Post by snow on Mar 28, 2020 13:51:25 GMT -5
Most big companies are playing with people's retirement savings so they have to make money. For pharma to produce a return they have to make products that they know they can sell (like viagra, depression pills etc). Producing a vaccine for COVID-19 would be very expensive with no guarantee they could recoup their investment. The Pharma. companies are Trillions dollars business. They don't need to make any new Vaccines for COVID-19. They have two or three Vaccines that can cure Corona Virus that President Trump mentioned on the News. One of them the drugs that treat Malaria. They can sell these Vaccines they have in their stocks already.
Yesterday in Oregon News that a man had Corona Virus and he used one of the drugs that President Trump mentioned and he was cured in a few days! An updated guide to the coronavirus drugs and vaccines in development by the Chinese Pharma companies By Damian Garde @damiangarde March 19, 2020www.statnews.com/2020/03/19/an-updated-guide-to-the-coronavirus-drugs-and-vaccines-in-development/China has recovered from Corona Virus after a month of isolation... HOW in the world did they do that? They have the Vaccines that is how they have recovered from the Corona Virus man-made in the military Lab. in Wuhan, China.
Not true. And the reason China has less cases is because they have enforced a very stringent isolation policy. Communities are guarded so that no one that tests positive can move out of their communities or homes. They have police officers blockading streets leading into communities and have an app on their phones to check everyone for fever that want in or out. They have taken this quite seriously unlike Italy where they didn't physical distance and continued to hug and kiss as they do. Now they know.
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Post by snow on Mar 28, 2020 13:56:02 GMT -5
China lies, Nathan. I would never trust a video from the Chinese gov't. Does history teach you nothing? I have a friend that lives in China not far from Wuhan, and once they recovered they were allowed to go walk outside of their community. They videoed what it looked like and the stringent rules that were in place. When they left the community a guard checked them for fever and when they returned they were checked again before they got back in. The streets were isolated. The guards are even checking each other hourly. So what they have done has slowed it down, but their are still new cases, 54 new ones in the last few hours and 3 newly died. It's not over for them but because they are a communist country they can enforce things without a problem or any reluctance that other democratic countries have to deal with.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 28, 2020 14:21:32 GMT -5
I drive car, not a horse nothing to get off. I am telling the truth if it wasn't in the Bible I would NOT have mentioned it so, no insults and personal attacks... please. Rev. 20:10-15
And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet are, and shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever. And I saw a great white throne, and him that sat on it, from whose face the earth and the heaven fled away; and there was found no place for them. And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; and the books were opened: and another book was opened, which is the book of life: and the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books, according to their works.And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works. And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death. And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.~~ So, believers and non-believers be ready and prepare to meet your MAKER! or God after death according to the Bible or God's words.
Get off your high car then.. 😉 something in that equation is high... don't know if it's the car though. It's a good video, but it really shows what 10 days can do. They were talking about "a few" cases in the US. They'll make a vaccine, and it will help, no doubt. It won't be a panacea, simply because the damage will have been largely done by the time it's widely available. It may be helpful against the next coronaviridae however. Good video, outlines a couple of the difficulties faces by epidemiologists and microbiologists.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 28, 2020 14:22:55 GMT -5
Before we get all carried away with conspiracy theories about China and COVID-19 it would be worth taking a look at the difference between China's methodical approach and the slackness of other countries. Belatedly, the New Zealand border is now secure and will be for the foreseeable future. China saw the enemy (also belatedly) but responded with determination. That's more than can be said for much of the world. data for "new cases" in China is extremely low compared to everyone else. That's encouraging.
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Post by snow on Mar 28, 2020 15:37:05 GMT -5
I thought this video was pretty good at telling us how to bring food into our house a little more safely.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 28, 2020 15:42:28 GMT -5
I thought this video was pretty good at telling us how to bring food into our house a little more safely. found another forum and on it they made this observation...someone was wearing gloves and mask at the store..touched the cart touched the food packages touched the debit card machine...then with those same gloves on touched the door to thier vehicle touched their keys touched their gear shift....this virus is gonna be with us a very long time....
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Post by Annan on Mar 28, 2020 15:47:43 GMT -5
We know people recovered. What's our point?
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Post by Annan on Mar 28, 2020 15:49:53 GMT -5
China lies, Nathan. Did they let all the people out that they quarantined? Are they out walking the streets again? It was on NBC Nightly News that a man used a drug that the idiot president said could possibly cure covid19. The man died. Guess you missed that one. ummm no....the president talked about hydroxychloroquine(sp)? and the man drank chloroquine(sp)? an aquarium cleaner...just a bit different...a darwin award should be issued in this case... Yes. You are correct. I knew when I typed that that I wasn't 100% correct. The point is that the narccistic toddler needs to keep his freaking mouth shut about things he knows nothing about. He often says, "I think. We will see." He always leaves himself an out. People are scared. They will try anything.
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Post by Annan on Mar 28, 2020 15:52:39 GMT -5
...found another forum and on it they made this observation...someone was wearing gloves and mask at the store..touched the cart touched the food packages touched the debit card machine...then with those same gloves on touched the door to thier vehicle touched their keys touched their gear shift....this virus is gonna be with us a very long time.... Exactly.
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Post by snow on Mar 28, 2020 15:53:29 GMT -5
I thought this video was pretty good at telling us how to bring food into our house a little more safely. found another forum and on it they made this observation...someone was wearing gloves and mask at the store..touched the cart touched the food packages touched the debit card machine...then with those same gloves on touched the door to thier vehicle touched their keys touched their gear shift....this virus is gonna be with us a very long time.... Yes, I put gloves on before going into the store. I remove them when I have put the groceries in the trunk and chuck them in the garbage beside the carts park area. Then my hands are relatively safe when I do touch my car. But I also have a lysol wipe in a zip lock that I use on my keys because I have touched them to open my trunk. I do that after I take the gloves off and I also wipe my hands because I have just touched my keys. Once I am in my car I theoretically haven't touched anything without sanitizing at least a little bit. But now I am order my groceries on line so I don't need to go into the store. Our store brings them out to the car and so I have the trunk set up so they can just set them inside. I will use gloves to touch them and bring them into the house. My theory is I will prop open my door between the house and the garage before I touch my bags of groceries again and then do what he suggests to the best of my ability. It's not fail safe, but it's probably better than nothing. All it takes is one misstep though. I am don't believe I will not get the virus, but I am hoping that we can slow the numbers to a pace that won't overwhelm our health care system. Probably too positive a hope, but hey, we can strive for the best case scenario
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Post by nathan on Mar 28, 2020 16:13:42 GMT -5
China lies, Nathan. Did they let all the people out that they quarantined? Are they out walking the streets again? It was on NBC Nightly News that a man used a drug that the idiot president said could possibly cure covid19. The man died. Guess you missed that one. ummm no....the president talked about hydroxychloroquine(sp)? and the man drank chloroquine(sp)? an aquarium cleaner...just a bit different...a darwin award should be issued in this case... Yep, some not so smart people blame Mr. Trump for it. I saw it on the News!
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Post by dmmichgood on Mar 28, 2020 16:38:15 GMT -5
found another forum and on it they made this observation...someone was wearing gloves and mask at the store..touched the cart touched the food packages touched the debit card machine...then with those same gloves on touched the door to thier vehicle touched their keys touched their gear shift....this virus is gonna be with us a very long time.... Yes, I put gloves on before going into the store. I remove them when I have put the groceries in the trunk and chuck them in the garbage beside the carts park area. Then my hands are relatively safe when I do touch my car. But I also have a lysol wipe in a zip lock that I use on my keys because I have touched them to open my trunk. I do that after I take the gloves off and I also wipe my hands because I have just touched my keys. Once I am in my car I theoretically haven't touched anything without sanitizing at least a little bit. But now I am order my groceries on line so I don't need to go into the store. Our store brings them out to the car and so I have the trunk set up so they can just set them inside. I will use gloves to touch them and bring them into the house. My theory is I will prop open my door between the house and the garage before I touch my bags of groceries again and then do what he suggests to the best of my ability. It's not fail safe, but it's probably better than nothing. All it takes is one misstep though. I am don't believe I will not get the virus, but I am hoping that we can slow the numbers to a pace that won't overwhelm our health care system. Probably too positive a hope, but hey, we can strive for the best case scenario I have a small rag sprayed with a bleach solution in a small plastic bag that I use to wipe off every thing that I touch when I am out including the car steering wheel, door handles and even my credit card.
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Post by dmmichgood on Mar 28, 2020 16:45:03 GMT -5
Get off your high car then.. 😉 Nice try, but no cigar. I drive a small car and is NOT very high to get out of.
Good, Nathan!
Then you won't have to break you neck when you get off!
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