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Post by fixit on Mar 26, 2020 1:41:41 GMT -5
You must decide whether you want to judge or understand them. I think it is better to try to understand them, they may have different ideas or beliefs than you, that may teach you something. I doubt that the word "judge" in this case means to condemn, but rather to discern between right and wrong.
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Post by fixit on Mar 26, 2020 1:43:16 GMT -5
repeating the verse i posted does nothing to change what i said...and is it not a good thing to tell someone when they have gone astray from God and the word? or is that evil? I see, -but then Wally, after you quoted the first verse of Gal_6:1, - you did say "- if you read the rest of the judge not verses you'll find its not about judging its about judging righteously..."
But I didn't understand them to be "judging" others but rather it was about "helping" others.
Yes, I've just posted my view that it is more about discerning between right and wrong rather than to condemn.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 26, 2020 2:23:31 GMT -5
Whether you're judging others, or feeling judged, at its core, a judgment is an opinion or decision based on thoughts, feelings and evidence. ... Judging only becomes a problem when we make unnecessary, hurtful or unfair judgments based on little evidence.
When we were 2x2's we regarded all other Churches as wrong or false. We never knew anything about them, we were told to not go near them. That is judging without evidence, or any knowledge as a basis for making such a judgement.
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Post by 1chinesewhispers on Mar 26, 2020 19:53:32 GMT -5
Little story At one point in the 30’s . The Great Depression My professing Grandparents and mom lived in a chicken coop . They lived in Brandon Manitoba . They were extremely poor and the minister of the United Church brought them food . My mom has rickets from poor nutrition and there were workers there but offered nothing . Charlie Ross whom was in the work at that time . After arriving from Ireland . Like I say really good worker’s but some not ! Struck me as odd . Just saying
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Post by iam on Mar 26, 2020 22:23:31 GMT -5
Little story At one point in the 30’s . The Great Depression My professing Grandparents and mom lived in a chicken coop . They lived in Brandon Manitoba . They were extremely poor and the minister of the United Church brought them food . My mom has rickets from poor nutrition and there were workers there but offered nothing . Charlie Ross whom was in the work at that time . After arriving from Ireland . Like I say really good worker’s but some not ! Struck me as odd . Just saying I wonder if back then the workers wouldn't have had anything to give themselves? At one time they were very very poor. Some of them lived in a barn in a stack of hay and had nothing to eat but wheat for 3 weeks that they made into porridge. Heard some stories.
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Post by 1chinesewhispers on Mar 27, 2020 6:36:32 GMT -5
They were looked after the (worker’s) believe me . That is one of the things Mom didn’t like or appreciate . Again I say they’re awesome workers and then some not awesome . . We have talked about this as she nears the finish line . My mom is beyond it now , but it never left her mind . It hurt deeply .
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Post by Deleted on Mar 27, 2020 15:58:58 GMT -5
You must decide whether you want to judge or understand them. I think it is better to try to understand them, they may have different ideas or beliefs than you, that may teach you something. I doubt that the word "judge" in this case means to condemn, but rather to discern between right and wrong. that's the simple way to find out actually. Substitute the word "discern", for the word "judge", then substitute the word "condemn". The sentence that doesn't sound ridiculous is the correct interpretation of "judge" in that context.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 27, 2020 16:02:13 GMT -5
Little story At one point in the 30’s . The Great Depression My professing Grandparents and mom lived in a chicken coop . They lived in Brandon Manitoba . They were extremely poor and the minister of the United Church brought them food . My mom has rickets from poor nutrition and there were workers there but offered nothing . Charlie Ross whom was in the work at that time . After arriving from Ireland . Like I say really good worker’s but some not ! Struck me as odd . Just saying I wonder if back then the workers wouldn't have had anything to give themselves? At one time they were very very poor. Some of them lived in a barn in a stack of hay and had nothing to eat but wheat for 3 weeks that they made into porridge. Heard some stories. I've heard it varied. There Australian workers it seems were truly poor and destitute. The American workers may not have had anything, but from what I can glean they were (as chinesewhispers indicates) fairly well looked after.
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Post by fixit on Mar 27, 2020 17:46:58 GMT -5
I doubt that the word "judge" in this case means to condemn, but rather to discern between right and wrong. that's the simple way to find out actually. Substitute the word "discern", for the word "judge", then substitute the word "condemn". The sentence that doesn't sound ridiculous is the correct interpretation of "judge" in that context. Do you mean the following? John 7:23 For if the correct time for circumcising your son falls on the Sabbath, you go ahead and do it so as not to break the law of Moses. So why should you be angry with me for healing a man on the Sabbath? 24 Look beneath the surface so you can judge condemn correctly. OR 24 Look beneath the surface so you can judge discern correctly.
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Post by 1chinesewhispers on Mar 27, 2020 17:48:41 GMT -5
Well gotta tell ya AFTER THE BRUTAL ABUSE I TOOK WAS REPORTED TO THE WORKERS !!!! I got EXCOMMUNICATED . It wasn’t a judgment call it was my evaluation of the fact worker’s lie !! They continue to lie to get into other countries . They say they are TEACHERS NOT PREACHERS !!!!!! My offenders were the worker’s as well absolutely
I am fully entitled to express their duplicity among them .
Carry on , whatever works for you . To hear my mom who has been faithful for 77 years what happened was unbelievable . You believe what you want . I will believe what my mom told me . My mamma doesn’t lie . She is related to Charlie Ross (The worker) he was her uncle , he was there . We don’t creep and crawl behind backs we state reality . All good here ! I look at her crippled hands from rickets and Parkinson’s . A daily reminder of what she endured by stayed faithful 77 years . Cheers
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Post by 1chinesewhispers on Mar 27, 2020 17:49:58 GMT -5
I have looked and I am good with that view forever ! I have lived with pure evil . I have participated in evil . To save some souls . I can be evil , I choose to help now . Until you walk that path . You have no idea
This is the fallout from some of the CSA VICTIMS . We try to kill ourself so we feel nothing anymore . That is a reality . It’s still happening , open your eyes 👀
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Post by 1chinesewhispers on Mar 27, 2020 18:10:09 GMT -5
A time out for me is here , they are shutting me down !!!!! Oh gave back my phone lol 😂 Before I lose my head or go off like a idiot .Later gator 🐊 Ya Nathan I am good . It’s life and I will tone it down again . Not leaving sorry 😐 This is a truth the worker’s know about . We are not creeping and crawling around . When women seek me out and find a contact the correct officials that may help them ., I get a message . I return their calls , I listen to their stories and I have deep compassion for them . I guide them where to go for help . I make it through the call without breaking down . When that call ends I weep for them and what they have endured . This is my journey to save 1 If only 1 . Calming down so chill . This journey is over 50 years . You can’t turn it off Nathan . I appreciate your concern . I am fine . I didn’t go buy booze or drugs so all is good . But thx 😊 Nathan .
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Post by nathan on Mar 27, 2020 18:24:08 GMT -5
A time out for me is here , they are shutting me down !!!!! Before I lose my head or go off like a idiot . Later gator 🐊 Take a break and get yourself healed up from inside and come back when you feel better. We are thinking and praying for you. May God heals your spirit and body. Take care.
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Post by dmmichgood on Mar 27, 2020 19:47:56 GMT -5
I wonder if back then the workers wouldn't have had anything to give themselves? At one time they were very very poor. Some of them lived in a barn in a stack of hay and had nothing to eat but wheat for 3 weeks that they made into porridge. Heard some stories. I've heard it varied. There Australian workers it seems were truly poor and destitute. The American workers may not have had anything, but from what I can glean they were (as chinesewhispers indicates) fairly well looked after. It differed with in the US as to where they were.
My father was in a part of Kentucky in the late 20's where no one had a lot.
PS: that wheat "porridge" that they had at convention when I was a child was ALMOST worth while having to sit quietly in the meetings! I have tried to find something to duplicate it but haven't been successful.
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Post by nathan on Mar 27, 2020 20:01:37 GMT -5
A time out for me is here , they are shutting me down !!!!! Oh gave back my phone lol 😂 Before I lose my head or go off like a idiot .Later gator 🐊 Ya Nathan I am good . It’s life and I will tone it down again . Not leaving sorry 😐 This is a truth the worker’s know about . We are not creeping and crawling around . When women seek me out and find a contact the correct officials that may help them ., I get a message . I return their calls , I listen to their stories and I have deep compassion for them . I guide them where to go for help . I make it through the call without breaking down . When that call ends I weep for them and what they have endured . This is my journey to save 1 If only 1 . Calming down so chill . This journey is over 50 years . You can’t turn it off Nathan . I appreciate your concern . I am fine . I didn’t go buy booze or drugs so all is good . But thx 😊 Nathan . I wish the ministry had taken our website and information on CSA seriously 20 years ago! and educate their staff of workers aware of these things. We wouldn't have this BIG of problems and victims like you. I believe things are getting better with CSA and I hope the overseers and workers learned the mistakes of the past and not to repeat it again.
Speak out, but be wise how you do it so it doesn't turn people against you.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 27, 2020 20:02:33 GMT -5
You remind me DMG the best things at Convention were, wheat porridge for breakfast, convention stew for lunch, and coffee at supper time. My Mother always got a job in the milk and butter room, and of course I was always with her as a young nipper. Remember pouring the bottles of coffee essence into the can of fresh whole milk. Coffee was in concentrated liquid form, not easy to get after the War. We never were able to have it at home, a treat at Convention, it was to die for.
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Post by 1chinesewhispers on Mar 27, 2020 20:12:11 GMT -5
Oh I am . My back is covered completely . I cannot explain my situation right now . Here is a tip , my own family doesn’t know where I may be , I could be , chillin in Texas with my bestie . The only other person that calls me is my mom via nurse’s to FaceTime . The rest are my team Believe me I am being kept safe so this journey is completed . My mother was videotaped by Calgary Police in case she passed . This is no game there are lives at stake to those not able to live in their bodies . I am the tool not the final answer .
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Post by fixit on Mar 27, 2020 20:35:04 GMT -5
Speak out, but be wise how you do it so it doesn't turn people against you. Like who? Where a crime has been committed, it's best to take it to the authorities.
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Post by nathan on Mar 27, 2020 20:42:55 GMT -5
Speak out, but be wise how you do it so it doesn't turn people against you. Like who? Where a crime has been committed, it's best to take it to the authorities. She did take it to the authority already! Share her story to many but do it wisely.
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Post by fixit on Mar 27, 2020 20:46:00 GMT -5
Like who? Where a crime has been committed, it's best to take it to the authorities. She did take it to the authority already! Share her story to many but do it wisely.The onus is not on the victim to pussyfoot around the sensibilities of ignorant people. Tell it to the world. The world needs to hear it.
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Post by 1chinesewhispers on Mar 27, 2020 20:49:52 GMT -5
Oh yeah cops are great friends believe me ! As I said this is not creeping and crawling . Of course police are involved but there are different kinds of officials that handle this . The final attack on me in 2016 broke open Pandora’s box . I didn’t roll of the vegetable cart last night . I was born at night but not last night .
Of course they are !!!!!?!!!!!!!!!!!!
Do you think 💭 I wanted this ? 11 years of abuse 11 . Most would be sick if I told stories that were told to me in confidence . It takes a lot to shock me . But they do . If a worker will not answer a direct question then ? Why would that be ? They may have to deny or lie ? I don’t know ! Ask your creator of choice .
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Post by 1chinesewhispers on Mar 27, 2020 20:54:48 GMT -5
We are headed that way . If I break the law and say the names I will be in jail . Not to bad , three hots and a cot . They know who they are . They had two warning shots to come and speak . They didn’t . They forced it thinking 💭 I may disappear or kill myself . Direct warning shots to THEIR PHONES !!!!!!!My editor’s cannot reveal . But at least you don’t have to listen to my choice of music which accompanies my chapters . I told them to delete all the evil some stored on a iPad .
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Post by 1chinesewhispers on Mar 27, 2020 21:02:34 GMT -5
The song for my offenders hails all the way from Australia 🇦🇺 AC/DC Dirty deeds done dirt cheap !
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Post by 1chinesewhispers on Mar 27, 2020 21:37:01 GMT -5
redback lollipop was good . Some day ! You are a interesting puzzle 🧩 I have to say !!! Oh yeah a new punching bag . Epic ! My team rocks . I have to have a physical workout , wear myself out . That is just 1 coping method .
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Post by xna on Jan 11, 2022 11:48:55 GMT -5
John 9:39 And Jesus said, For judgment I am come into this world, that they which see not might see; and that they which see might be made blind.
John 12:47 And if any man hear my words, and believe not, I judge him not: for I came not to judge the world, but to save the world.
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Post by fixit on Jan 11, 2022 13:53:13 GMT -5
John 9:39 And Jesus said, For judgment I am come into this world, that they which see not might see; and that they which see might be made blind.
NLT:Then Jesus told him, “I entered this world to render judgment—to give sight to the blind and to show those who think they see that they are blind.”
John 12:47 And if any man hear my words, and believe not, I judge him not: for I came not to judge the world, but to save the world.
NLT: I will not judge those who hear me but don’t obey me, for I have come to save the world and not to judge it.
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Post by fixit on Jan 11, 2022 13:59:22 GMT -5
A time out for me is here , they are shutting me down !!!!! Oh gave back my phone lol 😂 Before I lose my head or go off like a idiot .Later gator 🐊 Ya Nathan I am good . It’s life and I will tone it down again . Not leaving sorry 😐 This is a truth the worker’s know about . We are not creeping and crawling around . When women seek me out and find a contact the correct officials that may help them ., I get a message . I return their calls , I listen to their stories and I have deep compassion for them . I guide them where to go for help . I make it through the call without breaking down . When that call ends I weep for them and what they have endured . This is my journey to save 1 If only 1 . Calming down so chill . This journey is over 50 years . You can’t turn it off Nathan . I appreciate your concern . I am fine . I didn’t go buy booze or drugs so all is good . But thx 😊 Nathan . I wish the ministry had taken our website and information on CSA seriously 20 years ago! and educate their staff of workers aware of these things. We wouldn't have this BIG of problems and victims like you. I believe things are getting better with CSA and I hope the overseers and workers learned the mistakes of the past and not to repeat it again.
Speak out, but be wise how you do it so it doesn't turn people against you.This post troubled me at the time and I still feel the same. Why should we care about ignoramuses who turn against those reporting CSA?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 12, 2022 20:13:03 GMT -5
I wish the ministry had taken our website and information on CSA seriously 20 years ago! and educate their staff of workers aware of these things. We wouldn't have this BIG of problems and victims like you. I believe things are getting better with CSA and I hope the overseers and workers learned the mistakes of the past and not to repeat it again.
Speak out, but be wise how you do it so it doesn't turn people against you. This post troubled me at the time and I still feel the same. Why should we care about ignoramuses who turn against those reporting CSA? Amen.
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