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Post by nathan on Mar 20, 2020 1:49:20 GMT -5
Ram/mountain was NOT a 2x2 elder or a 2x2 when he wrote Dorothy William letter in 2010. He is an ex-2x2; he goes to the Baptist church off and on these days. For your information.
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Post by Roselyn T on Mar 20, 2020 1:53:02 GMT -5
Hey mountain when did you become an "Elder" in the 2x2 church? 😊😊 Oh ya - a member of the TMB demolition crew is prompt to attempt confusion of the issue. Therefore correction is open only to mountain, with the addition that I care not whether the historical record of this instance of disgusting level of deception points at a 2x2 worker, Elder, professing 2x2, or former 2x2. So you really don't care about getting the facts right @gratu ? Once again you have ASSumed and then wrote it as a fact !!
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Post by nathan on Mar 20, 2020 1:53:30 GMT -5
Ram/mountain was NOT a 2x2 elder or a 2x2 when he wrote Dorothy William letter in 2010. He is an ex-2x2; he goes to the Baptist church off and on these days. Just saying.. Oh ya - another member of the TMB demolition crew is prompt to attempt confusion of the issue. Therefore correction is open only to mountain, with the addition that I care not whether the historical record of this instance of disgusting level of deception points at a 2x2 worker, Elder, professing 2x2, or former 2x2. I am trying to tell you information so you don't look STUPID with your half-truth and false information about Mountain/Ram.
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Post by Roselyn T on Mar 20, 2020 3:09:28 GMT -5
I am trying to tell you information so you don't look so STUPID with your half-truth and false information about Mountain/Ram. Ah huh - and typically don't listen - so for the third time already, "Therefore correction is open only to mountain, with the addition that I care not whether the historical record of this instance of disgusting level of deception points at a 2x2 worker, Elder, professing 2x2, or former 2x2." Get over it @gratu !! Once again you are showing visitors/2x2 or whoever you think you post for how you like to "control" ! You have ASSumed wrong so "suck it up" !
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Post by mountain on Mar 20, 2020 3:39:21 GMT -5
Truth Meetings board – thread “Disgusting level of deception”\ Opening post
Mar 12, 2020 at 1:10pm by gratu 15 Main St. Kilsyth, Scotland (I doubt that the above image from Google Earth will post on this board – to see it search the address in either Google Earth or Google Maps) I had no idea that the deception practised on this board had already sunk to this level by 2010, before I even heard of this board. But just today I learned of a faked letter that has been claimed by the present alias “mountain” in 2010, which went into a level of deception that included an actual address in Kilsyth, Scotland to place within that fabricated letter made out to be an historical document of early 2x2ism. And THAT level of deception is hardly what I would call a “joke.” But the perpetrator of the concocted letter, after it misled several people, simply stated that it was all a "joke." For hurting 2x2s, let me say that I now HAVE to agree with the workers that visiting here is spiritually dangerous. I strongly urge any who drop by to click these links to find some truth about “The Truth.” workersect.org/ www.tellingthetruth.info/home/Also for 2x2/visitors - good Bible teachings on this board Thread – The reliability of the Bible – page one, first six posts. professing.proboards.com/post/860283/threadThread – Patterns of Evidence Exodus – page one, first six posts. professing.proboards.com/post/877135/threadThread – Amir Tsarfati – Israeli Bible teacher for 2x2/visitors – page one, first six posts. professing.proboards.com/post/882893/threadAt the moment I am about as disgusted as I think it possible for me to get. It seems to me that after a year of experience on this board many of the members of TMB seem to like to make sport of people who might need help. And for visitors who are learning from former 2x2s and present day 2x2s on this board, this to me is only a reminder of some of the similar mean deeds played upon other 2x2s by a few 2x2s I knew as a child. Reply
(mountain's only reply by 19/03/2020) Mar 12, 2020 at 3:01pm mountain said: Grats, I am confident that most people on this board then and now, if given the choice between my nonsense and your nonsense, you would lose by a country mile. The truth of the matter is that the Dorothy Irvine letter followed on from a series of such literary works of fiction, that only those who believed it, wanted to believe it. 'Dorothy' was preceded by german soldiers being spared from execution by Americans by a professing women, tulip jam eating workers in Holland, tail docking workers in Switzerland, and several other colourful tales. Some more imaginative that 'Dorothy.' Dorothy was quite tame by comparison. What I find disgusting, far more than your disgust over Dorothy, is that you stubbornly refuse to divulge your rice eating habits. Historical recordThe above documentation will be submitted to historical record of attempted bogus (deceptive) re-writing of 2x2 early history by, as I understand “mountain” to be, the level of an Elder within 2x2ism. And if that Elder-level is incorrect, this remains open to correction for one week from 19/03/2020, after which this post will be submitted to historical record of 2x2ism to add to its already well documented attempts to perform similar history-fixing deception that are detailed in the book Reinventing The Truth by Kevin Daniel. I care not WHO “mountain” is, this will document the disgusting level of deception practiced by a 2x2 Elder in 2010 and nothing more. Oh poor @gratu ! I hope you record for "historical record" some of the things YOU have said against the 2x2 church ... Oh thats right you delete anything that you post if it makes you look bad don't you @gratu ! mountain you have been very "bad" 😄😄😄 Goodness gracious me. What an awful lot of false assumptions and interpretations this Grats fellow places on things. I will not answer his points. Far better to let him go ahead and make a fool of himself. Let's hope he hasn't produced any written works about the 2x2 church. I'm certain it would rank amongst the upper echelons of fiction! What's more, the fellow recoils in fear whenever his is asked about whether or not rice features in his dietry habits. Yes RT, I have been very bad. Very, very bad indeed.
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Post by mountain on Mar 20, 2020 3:40:53 GMT -5
Hey mountain when did you become an "Elder" in the 2x2 church? 😊😊 Shhhhhhhhh! I'll get labelled along with fixit and the other guy who are listed amongst the undesirables!
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Post by mountain on Mar 20, 2020 3:42:18 GMT -5
Oh ya - another member of the TMB demolition crew is prompt to attempt confusion of the issue. Therefore correction is open only to mountain, with the addition that I care not whether the historical record of this instance of disgusting level of deception points at a 2x2 worker, Elder, professing 2x2, or former 2x2. I am trying to tell you information so you don't look STUPID with your half-truth and false information about Mountain/Ram.Keep him guessing Nathan. He makes me look only half as bad as I am!
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Post by mountain on Mar 20, 2020 3:45:33 GMT -5
Oh ya - a member of the TMB demolition crew is prompt to attempt confusion of the issue. Therefore correction is open only to mountain, with the addition that I care not whether the historical record of this instance of disgusting level of deception points at a 2x2 worker, Elder, professing 2x2, or former 2x2. So you really don't care about getting the facts right @gratu ? Once again you have ASSumed and then wrote it as a fact !! To be quite honest, I think Grats would be a great fiction writer. He knows how to transform truth into.......well anything he wants!
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Post by mountain on Mar 20, 2020 3:47:18 GMT -5
Goodness gracious me. What an awful lot of false assumptions and interpretations this Grats fellow places on things. I will not answer his points. Far better to let him go ahead and make a fool of himself. Let's hope he hasn't produced any written works about the 2x2 church. I'm certain it would rank amongst the upper echelons of fiction! What's more, the fellow recoils in fear whenever his is asked about whether or not rice features in his dietry habits. Yes RT, I have been very bad. Very, very bad indeed. This is fine by me - the instance of mountain's disgusting level of deception will now be submitted to the historical record of similar 2x2 deception - with thanks to mountain for not taking a week to leave the post uncorrected. Go ahead Grats. Be my guest. In the long run you will do yourself the greater dis-service. Oh, and thanks for the publicity. I ain't paying you though!
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Post by mountain on Mar 20, 2020 3:49:45 GMT -5
Ah huh - and typically don't listen - so for the third time already, "Therefore correction is open only to mountain, with the addition that I care not whether the historical record of this instance of disgusting level of deception points at a 2x2 worker, Elder, professing 2x2, or former 2x2." Get over it @gratu !! Once again you are showing visitors/2x2 or whoever you think you post for how you like to "control" ! You have ASSumed wrong so "suck it up" ! Naw, naw, naw, RT. he's got things right yet again. Dorothy would be delighted at Grats's reaction! No one knew her better than I. I even know her son, Trevor. Maybe he will have something to say in the future?
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Post by Roselyn T on Mar 20, 2020 3:57:39 GMT -5
Get over it @gratu !! Once again you are showing visitors/2x2 or whoever you think you post for how you like to "control" ! You have ASSumed wrong so "suck it up" ! Naw, naw, naw, RT. he's got things right yet again. Dorothy would be delighted at Grats's reaction! No one knew her better than I. I even know her son, Trevor. Maybe he will have something to say in the future? Just think mountain, you are going to be on "historical record" 😄😄 how good is that !! Is @gratu giving us a clue about "his book" .....what was it called again?"Reinventing The Truth"!!
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Post by mountain on Mar 20, 2020 4:05:24 GMT -5
"Get over it gratu !!" I got over "it" some 40 years ago. Only stupidity would lead any reader to think that the alias, "mountain" is the target of this thread when it is already clear in several posts that the historical practice of dishonesty within 2x2ism is the target. And 2x2/visitors would do well to know that regarding 2x2ism from leadership to the basement of it, which some former 2x2s apparently never get over practicing - some even showing pride in that disgusting practice. Grats, you have never got over it, okay! The origins of Dorothy had nothing whatsoever to do with trying to substantiate 2x2ism. I was the idiot who came up with Dorothy in a bit of fooling around, which provided a lot of laughs for many and a bit of criticism by some of the 2x2 fraternity when the truth was revealed. If you want to use the account of Dorothy to manufacture more slander against the 2x2 church, let it be known that you will have well and truly replaced me as Board idiot. By a long way. Okay! The fact that you are 'disgusted' by the fictitious account of Dorothy just goes to show that the further YOU think that you are away from 2x2ism, the closer you are to it. It's obvious that YOU want 'Dorothy' to be a cleverly manufactured piece by a 2x2 author seeking to support the supposed 'early beginnings' of the sect, so that you can use it in your long, ongoing quest, to smash the sect. You are like the miner who initially thinks he had found a lump of gold, only to find later that what he has in his hand is a lump of worthless iron pyrites (Fool's gold). Your rejoicing has turned to dismay. Your dismay into anger. And your anger has set you on the course of trying to make a spoof into a genuine presentation for your own purposes, in some sort of face-saving exercise. I can think of none other that would cause current 2x2s to huddle down in their beliefs than chance 'liberation' by your chosen standards expressed publicly on this board.
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Post by mountain on Mar 20, 2020 4:06:32 GMT -5
Naw, naw, naw, RT. he's got things right yet again. Dorothy would be delighted at Grats's reaction! No one knew her better than I. I even know her son, Trevor. Maybe he will have something to say in the future? Just think mountain, you are going to be on "historical record" 😄😄 how good is that !! Is @gratu giving us a clue about "his book" .....what was it called again?"Reinventing The Truth"!! I will give him a hand if he wants. I've got some cracking ideas. You ain't seen anything yet!
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Post by mountain on Mar 20, 2020 4:11:41 GMT -5
Naw, naw, naw, RT. he's got things right yet again. Dorothy would be delighted at Grats's reaction! No one knew her better than I. I even know her son, Trevor. Maybe he will have something to say in the future? Just think mountain, you are going to be on "historical record" 😄😄 how good is that !! Is @gratu giving us a clue about "his book" .....what was it called again?"Reinventing The Truth"!! I reckon a better title would be 'A Search for 'the Truth?' It could claim to be about the 'Workers' words exposed, with a special section for 'elders' like me?
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Post by fixit on Mar 20, 2020 4:13:34 GMT -5
Hey mountain when did you become an "Elder" in the 2x2 church? 😊😊 Shhhhhhhhh! I'll get labelled along with fixit and the other guy who are listed amongst the undesirables! Are you not a disciple of Nathan today???
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Post by mountain on Mar 20, 2020 4:17:18 GMT -5
Shhhhhhhhh! I'll get labelled along with fixit and the other guy who are listed amongst the undesirables! Are you not a disciple of Nathan today??? I am Nathan's Judas, fixit. I'm holding out for 30 pieces of silver before I betray him! How much loose change have you got?
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Post by mountain on Mar 20, 2020 5:12:45 GMT -5
“Grats, you have never got over it, okay!” Yes I did – wanna play that kid's game some more? Once upon a time there was a university professor who re-wrote 2x2 history and fooled around teaching his students with his hog wash too – great academic 'fun' to be sure – and similarly, when given the opportunity to correct his papers that workers were distributing among 2x2s to deceive them too, all he had to say was "He denies that his article was ever meant to be construed as an authoritative, definitive or scholarly paper." (Reinventing The Truth by Kevin Daniel, pp 23, 24 ) – almost as good as mountain's “joke.” And, just think, workers could grab the TMB “mountain” re-write (along with all the other fictions that mountain claims were written by other former 2x2s etc. on this board in 2010) and start distributing that to deceive 2x2s. And now, evidently mountain is going to entertain all with more similar fictions - so believe anything mountain posts on here if you like, but I will view his/her posts as just intentionally deceptive "jokes." For hurting 2x2s, let me say that I now HAVE to agree with the workers that visiting here is spiritually dangerous. I strongly urge any who drop by to click these links to find some truth about “The Truth.” workersect.org/www.tellingthetruth.info/home/votisalive.blogspot.com/2018/12/title-list-with-link-to-pdf-file-you.htmlAlso for 2x2/visitors - good Bible teachings on this board Thread – The reliability of the Bible – page one, first six posts. professing.proboards.com/post/860283/threadThread – Patterns of Evidence Exodus – page one, first six posts. professing.proboards.com/post/877135/threadThread – Amir Tsarfati – Israeli Bible teacher for 2x2/visitors – page one, first six posts. professing.proboards.com/post/882893/thread“Grats” is not registered on this board – here's the spot in the list of members where “Grats” would appear -- grandpa gratfulforgrace gratu And gratu is as much a chicken poop alias, just like mountain and all the other aliases registered on TMB. So gratu is not the least affected by all the goomba the TMB demolition crew has tried for a year already to pile upon him. Anyway Grats...how about the rice question? Yes or no?
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Post by Roselyn T on Mar 20, 2020 8:43:02 GMT -5
“Grats, you have never got over it, okay!” Yes I did – wanna play that kid's game some more? Once upon a time there was a university professor who re-wrote 2x2 history and fooled around teaching his students with his hog wash too – great academic 'fun' to be sure – and similarly, when given the opportunity to correct his papers that workers were distributing among 2x2s to deceive them too, all he had to say was "He denies that his article was ever meant to be construed as an authoritative, definitive or scholarly paper." (Reinventing The Truth by Kevin Daniel, pp 23, 24 ) – almost as good as mountain's “joke.” And, just think, workers could grab the TMB “mountain” re-write (along with all the other fictions that mountain claims were written by other former 2x2s etc. on this board in 2010) and start distributing that to deceive 2x2s. And now, evidently mountain is going to entertain all with more similar fictions - so believe anything mountain posts on here if you like, but I will view his/her posts as just intentionally deceptive "jokes." For hurting 2x2s, let me say that I now HAVE to agree with the workers that visiting here is spiritually dangerous. I strongly urge any who drop by to click these links to find some truth about “The Truth.” workersect.org/www.tellingthetruth.info/home/votisalive.blogspot.com/2018/12/title-list-with-link-to-pdf-file-you.htmlAlso for 2x2/visitors - good Bible teachings on this board Thread – The reliability of the Bible – page one, first six posts. professing.proboards.com/post/860283/threadThread – Patterns of Evidence Exodus – page one, first six posts. professing.proboards.com/post/877135/threadThread – Amir Tsarfati – Israeli Bible teacher for 2x2/visitors – page one, first six posts. professing.proboards.com/post/882893/thread“Grats” is not registered on this board – here's the spot in the list of members where “Grats” would appear -- grandpa gratfulforgrace gratu And gratu is as much a chicken poop alias, just like mountain and all the other aliases registered on TMB. So gratu is not the least affected by all the goomba the TMB demolition crew has tried for a year already to pile upon him. Anyway Grats...how about the rice question? Yes or no? Where would all those visitors/2x2s be without "the great wisdom" of @gratu ! They must be on the edge of their seats waiting for the next "instalment" !
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Post by CherieKropp on Mar 20, 2020 8:54:11 GMT -5
Mountain (ex2x2), hubby and me met for supper in Scotland in 2004. At that time, i had e-known him for several years. I can vouch that he left 2x2ism before he ever started posting on TMB... I have a 2002 email saying that he left in 1995.
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Post by mountain on Mar 20, 2020 11:43:37 GMT -5
Mountain (ex2x2), hubby and me met for supper in Scotland in 2004. At that time, i had e-known him for several years. I can vouch that he left 2x2ism before he ever started posting on TMB... I have a 2002 email saying that he left in 1995. Many thanks Cherie. I doubt if that will be enough to satisfy Grats? I reckon I don't hate the sect enough for his liking?
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Post by mountain on Mar 20, 2020 14:43:01 GMT -5
Mountain (ex2x2), hubby and me met for supper in Scotland in 2004. At that time, i had e-known him for several years. I can vouch that he left 2x2ism before he ever started posting on TMB... I have a 2002 email saying that he left in 1995. Like I said, I care not WHO “mountain” is, this will document the disgusting level of deception practiced on this board by an ex-2x2 Elder in 2010 and nothing more. And mountain, if never a 2x2 Elder, has not corrected the impression he gave of a leadership level of disgusting deception within 2x2ism. But that's no big deal, since 2x2 clergy continue similarly deceiving 2x2s to this day, and its Elders commonly practice similar inhouse deception - this instance of mountain's composition is not alone by any means -- but it's no big deal that a mere former 2x2 might retain such 2x2 leadership hangover out of 2x2 leadership teachings. And 2x2/visitors might do well for themselves to become familiar with the very loose grasp that their leadership have upon 'honesty.' The route to peaceful freedom from ancient 2x2 deceptions is found in the HARD realization that 2x2ism has been internally deceptive FIRST with its membership right from the start. Edit - For just one other example, I have read a worker's long sermon that, after decades of teaching 2x2s to call their 'church' both “the Way” and “the Truth,” attempted to deceive them that “the Way” and “the Truth” were not names that 2x2 leadership had chosen and regularly used for their so-called nameless 'church.' And THAT sermon was dated prior to the exposure of 2x2 leaderships' deceptive registry of their 'church' under its various official names across the globe. Grats, you are off your head, man! Give things a break, please? I hate competition!
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Post by mountain on Mar 20, 2020 17:25:29 GMT -5
Grats, you are off your head, man! Give things a break, please? I hate competition! Awwww I nowwwwwww - and workers hate competition for WHAT they present as 'truth' too - they really don't need mountain' help to confuse any 2x2s who come to this board hoping to find HELP. And I think mountain could still delete his "joke" of 2010 and quit trying to gloss it over with chicken poop purveyed upon gratu in 2020. And, for the umteeth time already, there is no "Grats" registered on TMB - yet. So I'll legitimately go back to ignoring mountains and stop wasting my time showing up ancient 2x2 deception on TMB practiced by mountain in 2010 because I think mountain has exposed himself quite well as a 2x2 deceiver quite well on this thread for 2x2/visitors to bypass his chicken poop on here. Grats...pin your ears back and listen. Mountain had nothing to do with the Dorothy spoof back in 2010. It was RAM and RAM's account, complete with the Dorothy account has been deleted for many months now. It was Nathan who re-produced the Dorothy account here recently. He must have saved it or located it on a post other than a RAM post. There is NO RAM now on this board. It doesn't matter if there is no Grats registered as a member on this board. Everyone, including yourself, knows who Grats is. It is a term of endearment that I have bestowed upon you as a dear friend. You are honoured. RAM/Mountain are/is well known for his wind-ups and spoofs on this board. You have made a long forgotten spoof a great point of interest again, because it has fooled you big style. You have not shed your 2x2 mantle, no matter how much you would like to claim to have. You are a very troubled man. You Soooo wanted the Dorothy spoof to be a real attempt at covering up the beginnings. I can just see your frustration at it all. You thought you had the sect by the goollies with yet another cover up, but all that has come out of it is that you have made a fool of yourself and are trying desperately to wriggle out of it. Nathan did well to re-post the Dorothy account. He has unwittingly pulled the rug from under a very strident adversary.
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Post by curlywurlysammagee on Mar 20, 2020 19:22:24 GMT -5
Oh ya - a member of the TMB demolition crew is prompt to attempt confusion of the issue. Therefore correction is open only to mountain, with the addition that I care not whether the historical record of this instance of disgusting level of deception points at a 2x2 worker, Elder, professing 2x2, or former 2x2. So you really don't care about getting the facts right @gratu ? Once again you have ASSumed and then wrote it as a fact !! That sounds like Nathan. Perhaps they are cronies.
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Post by Roselyn T on Mar 20, 2020 19:42:51 GMT -5
“It was RAM and RAM's account, complete with the Dorothy account has been deleted for many months now.” Awwww I nowwwwww – but then mountain identified the “Dorothy” deception on this thread without one indication from me as to WHAT deception I was pointing at. And likewise, I don't care WHO “RAM” is either – it's just another chicken poop alias like my own and “mountain” and all the rest of the TMB aliases. But that deception is still posted on this board, not deleted as mountain now claims it is, and that means it is wide open to a worker to grab it and use it to deceive 2x2s with. So, it is going into historical record as attempted deception by a worker, an Elder, a common 2x2, or a hungover former 2x2, on TMB alias “mountain.” I don't blame mountain for using a chicken poop alias in place of his name with this disgusting level of attempted deception on his hands by his own hands. So, to show the fact that it remains posted on TMB, I quote the “joke” claim from its bottom end: (I will not link to such attempted deception on this board to help anyone to find it) THIS IS THE ONLY CLUE WHO COMPOSED THE DECEPTIONApr 17, 2010 at 12:58pm @ram said: “TO WHOM IT MAY CONCERN. PLEASE DO NOT TREAT THE CONTENTS OF THE ORIGINAL POST (INCLUDING THE LETTER BY DOROTHY IRVINE) ON THIS THREAD, MADE BY MYSELF, WITH ANY SERIOUSNESS AS THE WHOLE THING WAS PRESENTED AS A JOKE.“ And here is the header of the disgusting deception quoted from it (again) just a minute ago: quote 15 Main Street Kilsyth Scotland 30th August 1910 Dear Sir, unquote Goodness me @gratu ....how has TMB survived without you !
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Post by Roselyn T on Mar 20, 2020 19:47:47 GMT -5
Awwww I nowwwwwww - and workers hate competition for WHAT they present as 'truth' too - they really don't need mountain' help to confuse any 2x2s who come to this board hoping to find HELP. And I think mountain could still delete his "joke" of 2010 and quit trying to gloss it over with chicken poop purveyed upon gratu in 2020. And, for the umteeth time already, there is no "Grats" registered on TMB - yet. So I'll legitimately go back to ignoring mountains and stop wasting my time showing up ancient 2x2 deception on TMB practiced by mountain in 2010 because I think mountain has exposed himself quite well as a 2x2 deceiver quite well on this thread for 2x2/visitors to bypass his chicken poop on here. Grats...pin your ears back and listen. Mountain had nothing to do with the Dorothy spoof back in 2010. It was RAM and RAM's account, complete with the Dorothy account has been deleted for many months now. It was Nathan who re-produced the Dorothy account here recently. He must have saved it or located it on a post other than a RAM post. There is NO RAM now on this board. It doesn't matter if there is no Grats registered as a member on this board. Everyone, including yourself, knows who Grats is. It is a term of endearment that I have bestowed upon you as a dear friend. You are honoured. RAM/Mountain are/is well known for his wind-ups and spoofs on this board. You have made a long forgotten spoof a great point of interest again, because it has fooled you big style. You have not shed your 2x2 mantle, no matter how much you would like to claim to have. You are a very troubled man. You Soooo wanted the Dorothy spoof to be a real attempt at covering up the beginnings. I can just see your frustration at it all. You thought you had the sect by the goollies with yet another cover up, but all that has come out of it is that you have made a fool of yourself and are trying desperately to wriggle out of it. Nathan did well to re-post the Dorothy account. He has unwittingly pulled the rug from under a very strident adversary. Exactly mountain ! 😄😄
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Post by Gene on Mar 20, 2020 21:07:36 GMT -5
Lordy.
Mountain, thank gods you are here.
Gratu, thank gods you are here.
Life would be much less colorful without either of you.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 20, 2020 21:38:12 GMT -5
Lordy. Mountain, thank gods you are here. Gratu, thank gods you are here. Life would be much less colorful without either of you. Kind of like Bert not being here. Though lately, I think Bert's Lists opening posts would be 3 pages of gratu quotes! 😂😂😂
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Post by Roselyn T on Mar 20, 2020 23:45:12 GMT -5
Kind of like Bert not being here. Though lately, I think Bert's Lists opening posts would be 3 pages of gratu quotes! 😂😂😂 Awwww I nowwwwwwwww - exaggeration is a 2x2 habit that seems to become baggage to some former 2x2s. If one quoted every opening post I have made since I registered on this board, I doubt such a list would fill one page - my opening posts are traditionally short and to the point being made. But thanks gene - however, I am not posting to entertain TMB members who seem titillated at the slightest op - ho hum. By the way, who is "Bert?" I haven't seen one post on here by any "Bert" since I registered on this board - but maybe he's just another non-existing chicken poop alias like "Grats." That is why you don't understand what @ipsedixit posted @gratu.....Bert was around long before your time ! I am sure you would have got on really well with him ! But wait....maybe he wasn't really here after all ??
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