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Post by dmmichgood on Mar 13, 2020 2:17:50 GMT -5
Someone said an authentication factor used is the factor of embarrassment or shame. It seems that in Josephus’ works there was something to do with that angle. I guess I’ll have to go to the library to see if I can find it. I’d stupidly gave my Josephus book away. I didn’t have it all , I think is why. Not sure what is meant by the quote: "an authentication factor used is the factor of embarrassment or shame."
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Post by dmmichgood on Mar 13, 2020 2:23:10 GMT -5
You don't even read his books. I have listened to Bart a few Videos on Jesus... He is a quack and an unbeliever who has NEVER MET Jesus face to face. And you, -Nathan have "MET Jesus face to face?"
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Post by iam on Mar 13, 2020 2:27:04 GMT -5
~~ Who do you believe Bart the man or the MAN himself Christ/Jesus God? Let's ask: Who's the quack, Bart Ehrman or Dr. Stranges? Neither. It's my naturopath.
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Post by iam on Mar 13, 2020 2:28:33 GMT -5
I believe the testimony or word of Pastor Frank S. over Bart Ehrman the atheist any day! I believe in the man who had seen and met Jesus face to face a few times than someone who has never Jesus once!
I say Bart is the Quack! He speaks things he doesn't understand or know. You don't even read his books. And I don't have a naturopath!😂
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Post by ant_rotten on Mar 13, 2020 2:41:02 GMT -5
Let's ask: Who's the quack, Bart Ehrman or Dr. Stranges? I believe the testimony or word of Pastor Frank S. over Bart Ehrman the atheist any day! I believe in the man who had seen and met Jesus face to face a few times than someone who has never seen Jesus even once!
I say Bart is the Quack! He speaks things he doesn't understand or know. Why, do you want to believe in a quack who has never seen or believe in Jesus over the someone who has seen Him?Pastor Frank S is nothing but a quack. He speaks of things he doesn’t understand...
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Post by snow on Mar 13, 2020 14:40:12 GMT -5
Let's ask: Who's the quack, Bart Ehrman or Dr. Stranges? I believe the testimony or word of Pastor Frank S. over Bart Ehrman the atheist any day! I believe in the man who had seen and met Jesus face to face a few times than someone who has never seen Jesus even once!
I say Bart is the Quack! He speaks things he doesn't understand or know. Why, do you want to believe in a quack who has never seen or believe in Jesus over the someone who has seen Him?Bart is a historian and very good at what he does. So to not take what he has learned and studied is to stay uninformed about what can be learned about the times and how they thought back then. Stranges hasn't got a clue if he thinks planets are hollow. All credibility is gone when he states something that isn't physically possible in the first place.
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Post by nathan on Mar 13, 2020 15:12:00 GMT -5
I believe the testimony or word of Pastor Frank S. over Bart Ehrman the atheist any day! I believe in the man who had seen and met Jesus face to face a few times than someone who has never seen Jesus even once!
I say Bart is the Quack! He speaks things he doesn't understand or know. Why, do you want to believe in a quack who has never seen or believe in Jesus over the someone who has seen Him? Bart is a historian and very good at what he does. So to not take what he has learned and studied is to stay uninformed about what can be learned about the times and how they thought back then. Stranges hasn't got a clue if he thinks planets are hollow. All credibility is gone when he states something that isn't physically possible in the first place. I would rather listen to someone who had seen the inner earth and inner Venus and meeting Jesus face to face then a historian, learned from books, history that had NOT seen or met Jesus in person.
Pastor/Dr. Frank Stranges is NOT the ONLY human being who entered the Hollow earth. Frank Stranges is the ONLY man who had entered the inner earth and inner Venus planet.
Here is a list of names who had entered the hollow earth themselves. Here is a list of names who had entered the hollow earth themselves. Admiral Richard E. Byrd; Pastor Franks E. Stranges, Air Force Col. Billie F. Woodward, and others.
humansarefree.com/2011/05/hollow-earth-agartha-complete.html
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Post by snow on Mar 13, 2020 15:18:06 GMT -5
Bart is a historian and very good at what he does. So to not take what he has learned and studied is to stay uninformed about what can be learned about the times and how they thought back then. Stranges hasn't got a clue if he thinks planets are hollow. All credibility is gone when he states something that isn't physically possible in the first place. I would rather listen to someone who had seen the inner earth and inner Venus and meeting Jesus face to face then a historian, learned from books, history that had NOT seen or met Jesus in person.
Pastor/Dr. Frank Stranges is NOT the ONLY human being who entered the Hollow earth. Frank Stranges is the ONLY man who had entered the inner earth and inner Venus planet.
Here is a list of names who had entered the hollow earth themselves.
humansarefree.com/2011/05/hollow-earth-agartha-complete.html
Yes I know you would. That's evidently quite clear. Trouble is earth isn't hollow. If you think you and Stranges know more than main stream scientists then there is no hope for you. And, it's got nothing to do with being an atheist. It's because I have studied enough science to know that Stranges is lying.
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Post by nathan on Mar 13, 2020 15:21:21 GMT -5
I believe the testimony or word of Pastor Frank S. over Bart Ehrman the atheist any day! I believe in the man who had seen and met Jesus face to face a few times than someone who has never seen Jesus even once!
I say Bart is the Quack! He speaks things he doesn't understand or know. Why, do you want to believe in a quack who has never seen or believe in Jesus over the someone who has seen Him? Pastor Frank S is nothing but a quack. He speaks of things he doesn’t understand... I'd like to listen and believe in a quack who you called, that had seen and been to the inner earth and inner Venus planet and saw Christ Jesus the man Himself, than some quack like you who have NOT been out to inner earth or inner interior planet of Venus. It's who is a quack of all time, speaking thing out of your realm of understanding.
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Post by nathan on Mar 13, 2020 15:24:01 GMT -5
I would rather listen to someone who had seen the inner earth and inner Venus and meeting Jesus face to face then a historian, learned from books, history that had NOT seen or met Jesus in person.
Pastor/Dr. Frank Stranges is NOT the ONLY human being who entered the Hollow earth. Frank Stranges is the ONLY man who had entered the inner earth and inner Venus planet.
Here is a list of names who had entered the hollow earth themselves.
humansarefree.com/2011/05/hollow-earth-agartha-complete.html
Yes I know you would. That's evidently quite clear. Trouble is earth isn't hollow. If you think you and Stranges know more than main stream scientists then there is no hope for you. And, it's got nothing to do with being an atheist. It's because I have studied enough science to know that Stranges is lying. You are expressing your opinion here and those who have NOT SEEN or ENTER the inner earth, yet! The earth isn't hollow. If it was ONLY Frank who speaks about the hollow earth then I might agree with you but there are others on the list. These men are honorable men with great of respect by many.
Christ has created all planets are hollow from the 1st day of creation! This way the billions intelligent beings God created to populate Billions galaxies/and zillions planets in each galaxy can live inside the interior planet as well on the surface like the earth, Mars, and other planets.
When Jesus returns these billions intelligent beings he/Christ created will be welcome into His kingdom with the help of His chosen humans, who created in His image and Likeness to RULE with Him in His Eternal kingdom on earth during the 1000 yrs reign.
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Post by fixit on Mar 13, 2020 15:25:37 GMT -5
This is the part where he says God wasn't crucified...
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Post by sharingtheriches on Mar 13, 2020 15:33:29 GMT -5
I would rather listen to someone who had seen the inner earth and inner Venus and meeting Jesus face to face then a historian, learned from books, history that had NOT seen or met Jesus in person.
Pastor/Dr. Frank Stranges is NOT the ONLY human being who entered the Hollow earth. Frank Stranges is the ONLY man who had entered the inner earth and inner Venus planet.
Here is a list of names who had entered the hollow earth themselves.
humansarefree.com/2011/05/hollow-earth-agartha-complete.html
Yes I know you would. That's evidently quite clear. Trouble is earth isn't hollow. If you think you and Stranges know more than main stream scientists then there is no hope for you. And, it's got nothing to do with being an atheist. It's because I have studied enough science to know that Stranges is lying. The earth can’t be hollow because of this fairly new discovery, though they say they can’t get complete measurements due to lack of seismographic instruments. But they did say they are developing better instruments. It’s a very interesting article. www.livescience.com/14214-earth-core-melting.html
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Post by snow on Mar 13, 2020 15:37:25 GMT -5
Bart Ehrman - he who 'has made an entire career out of writing about the problems and inconsistencies in the New Testament', debates that Jesus did exist in the following: This is what I've been saying. The Jews thought of their Messiah as the anointed one, even called them the begotten sons of God. All the kings of Israel were anointed and the begotten sons of God. But apologetic say those verses that point to that haven't been interpreted correctly and are actually supposed to be prophecies of Jesus coming. They weren't.
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Post by nathan on Mar 13, 2020 15:42:19 GMT -5
Yes I know you would. That's evidently quite clear. Trouble is earth isn't hollow. If you think you and Stranges know more than main stream scientists then there is no hope for you. And, it's got nothing to do with being an atheist. It's because I have studied enough science to know that Stranges is lying. The earth can’t be hollow because of this fairly new discovery, though they say they can’t get complete measurements due to lack of seismographic instruments. But they did say they are developing better instruments. It’s a very interesting article. www.livescience.com/14214-earth-core-melting.html Here is an email and phone number you can get in touch with Col. Billie F. Woodward.
bzjrainpartners@gmail.com ~ (719) 428-9746 My name is Colonel Billie Faye Woodard of the United States Air Force. I was first stationed at Area 51, Nevada, Jan 28, 1971 through 1982. In that period of service I visited the Hollow Interior of the Earth six times, 800 miles deep. Upon my arrival to Area 51 I was indoctrinated to the existence of tunnels beneath Area 51, and soon after I met several of the Underground Shuttle Operators that have a stature of 13 to 14 feet in height. These tunnels, that transverse the world, are built by a species of beings who have existed here before we, a very long time.Immediately on my arrival to Area 51, I was made aware of the tunnels and all the workings of the facility itself. They told me that the first 15 levels of the Area 51 facility were man made; that Levels 16-27 were already there. Nobody from our government made them. We were just facilitating them. zorraofhollowearth.com/billie-faye-woodard-story
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Post by snow on Mar 13, 2020 15:47:52 GMT -5
Yes I know you would. That's evidently quite clear. Trouble is earth isn't hollow. If you think you and Stranges know more than main stream scientists then there is no hope for you. And, it's got nothing to do with being an atheist. It's because I have studied enough science to know that Stranges is lying. The earth can’t be hollow because of this fairly new discovery, though they say they can’t get complete measurements due to lack of seismographic instruments. But they did say they are developing better instruments. It’s a very interesting article. www.livescience.com/14214-earth-core-melting.htmlInteresting article. Thank you STR
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Post by sharingtheriches on Mar 13, 2020 17:07:31 GMT -5
Thanks, that is interesting.
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Post by BobWilliston on Mar 13, 2020 18:18:31 GMT -5
You don't even read his books. I have listened to Bart a few Videos on Jesus... He is a quack and an unbeliever who has NEVER MET Jesus face to face.Like you know what a quack sounds like.
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Post by BobWilliston on Mar 13, 2020 19:14:20 GMT -5
The earth can’t be hollow because of this fairly new discovery, though they say they can’t get complete measurements due to lack of seismographic instruments. But they did say they are developing better instruments. It’s a very interesting article. www.livescience.com/14214-earth-core-melting.html Here is an email and phone number you can get in touch with Col. Billie F. Woodward.
bzjrainpartners@gmail.com ~ (719) 428-9746 My name is Colonel Billie Faye Woodard of the United States Air Force. I was first stationed at Area 51, Nevada, Jan 28, 1971 through 1982. In that period of service I visited the Hollow Interior of the Earth six times, 800 miles deep. Upon my arrival to Area 51 I was indoctrinated to the existence of tunnels beneath Area 51, and soon after I met several of the Underground Shuttle Operators that have a stature of 13 to 14 feet in height. These tunnels, that transverse the world, are built by a species of beings who have existed here before we, a very long time.Immediately on my arrival to Area 51, I was made aware of the tunnels and all the workings of the facility itself. They told me that the first 15 levels of the Area 51 facility were man made; that Levels 16-27 were already there. Nobody from our government made them. We were just facilitating them. zorraofhollowearth.com/billie-faye-woodard-storyQUACK QUACK SQUAWK
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Post by ant_rotten on Mar 13, 2020 20:33:48 GMT -5
Pastor Frank S is nothing but a quack. He speaks of things he doesn’t understand... I'd like to listen and believe in a quack who you called, that had seen and been to the inner earth and inner Venus planet and saw Christ Jesus the man Himself, than some quack like you who have NOT been out to inner earth or inner interior planet of Venus. It's who is a quack of all time, speaking thing out of your realm of understanding. Bart Ehrman is not interested in the center of planets. That is left to gullible people like yourself. And if Ehrman is speaking about things out of the realm of his understanding, what does that say about you? You think you understand? Ehrman has spent his entire adult life studying the New Testament and the life of Jesus, is an EXPERT and has the credentials to show. I can’t say the same about you or your false information spreader, frank stooges. If you want to believe stooges has personally met Jesus, go right ahead. You are easily lead astray by liars..
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Post by nathan on Mar 13, 2020 20:40:46 GMT -5
I'd like to listen and believe in a quack who you called, that had seen and been to the inner earth and inner Venus planet and saw Christ Jesus the man Himself, than some quack like you who have NOT been out to inner earth or inner interior planet of Venus. It's who is a quack of all time, speaking thing out of your realm of understanding. Bart Ehrman is not interested in the center of planets. That is left to gullible people like yourself. And if Ehrman is speaking about things out of the realm of his understanding, what does that say about you? You think you understand? Ehrman has spent his entire adult life studying the New Testament and the life of Jesus, is an EXPERT and has the credentials to show. I can’t say the same about you or your false information spreader, frank stooges. If you want to believe stooges has personally met Jesus, go right ahead. You are easily lead astray by liars.. I told you people have MET Jesus face to face inside the planet of Venus! So, how can Bart say Jesus has NEVER existed? You believe in a Quack Bart and don't even know it.
STR, has mentioned many times on this board, that she has met Jesus face to face. Is she lying? Are you calling a liar, too?
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Post by ant_rotten on Mar 13, 2020 20:43:55 GMT -5
Yes I know you would. That's evidently quite clear. Trouble is earth isn't hollow. If you think you and Stranges know more than main stream scientists then there is no hope for you. And, it's got nothing to do with being an atheist. It's because I have studied enough science to know that Stranges is lying. You are expressing your opinion here and those who have NOT SEEN or ENTER the inner earth, yet! The earth isn't hollow. If it was ONLY Frank who speaks about the hollow earth then I might agree with you but there are others on the list. These men are honorable men with great of respect by many.
Christ has created all planets are hollow from the 1st day of creation! This way the billions intelligent beings God created to populate Billions galaxies/and zillions planets in each galaxy can live inside the interior planet as well on the surface like the earth, Mars, and other planets.
When Jesus returns these billions intelligent beings he/Christ created will be welcome into His kingdom with the help of His chosen humans, who created in His image and Likeness to RULE with Him in His Eternal kingdom on earth during the 1000 yrs reign.
Do these “intelligent beings that populate other galaxies and planets believe in the story of genesis or do they have their own bible? Do they believe in Jesus? If Jesus such of such importance to this planet, how are the intelligent beings living on other planets going to be saved? Or isn’t god concerned about these people? Are they going to hell? What’s gods purpose for all these others “intelligent beings” that you claim are out there in the universe?
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Post by ant_rotten on Mar 13, 2020 20:46:27 GMT -5
Bart Ehrman is not interested in the center of planets. That is left to gullible people like yourself. And if Ehrman is speaking about things out of the realm of his understanding, what does that say about you? You think you understand? Ehrman has spent his entire adult life studying the New Testament and the life of Jesus, is an EXPERT and has the credentials to show. I can’t say the same about you or your false information spreader, frank stooges. If you want to believe stooges has personally met Jesus, go right ahead. You are easily lead astray by liars.. I told you people have MET Jesus face to face inside the planet of Venus! So, how can Bart say Jesus has NEVER existed? You believe in a Quack Bart and don't even know it.
STR, has mentioned many time on this board, that she has met Jesus face to face.
Oh, really? Sounds like STR had a great dream. And when has anyone on this board or Ehrman himself stated Jesus doesn’t exist? He’s a scholar that argues that Jesus existed. Shows your lack of understanding of a person you keep calling a quack!!
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Post by nathan on Mar 13, 2020 21:17:00 GMT -5
I told you people have MET Jesus face to face inside the planet of Venus! So, how can Bart say Jesus has NEVER existed? You believe in a Quack Bart and don't even know it.
STR, has mentioned many time on this board, that she has met Jesus face to face.
Oh, really? Sounds like STR had a great dream. And when has anyone on this board or Ehrman himself stated Jesus doesn’t exist? He’s a scholar that argues that Jesus existed. Shows your lack of understanding of a person you keep calling a quack!! Yes, a few on readers on TMB have said Jesus did NOT existed and we went round and round with them. They used Bart as their golden boy.
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Post by nathan on Mar 13, 2020 21:22:13 GMT -5
You are expressing your opinion here and those who have NOT SEEN or ENTER the inner earth, yet! The earth isn't hollow. If it was ONLY Frank who speaks about the hollow earth then I might agree with you but there are others on the list. These men are honorable men with great of respect by many.
Christ has created all planets are hollow from the 1st day of creation! This way the billions intelligent beings God created to populate Billions galaxies/and zillions planets in each galaxy can live inside the interior planet as well on the surface like the earth, Mars, and other planets.
When Jesus returns these billions intelligent beings he/Christ created will be welcome into His kingdom with the help of His chosen humans, who created in His image and Likeness to RULE with Him in His Eternal kingdom on earth during the 1000 yrs reign.
Do these “intelligent beings that populate other galaxies and planets believe in the story of genesis or do they have their own bible? Do they believe in Jesus? If Jesus such of such importance to this planet, how are the intelligent beings living on other planets going to be saved? Or isn’t god concerned about these people? Are they going to hell? What’s gods purpose for all these others “intelligent beings” that you claim are out there in the universe? Yes, the EBEN intelligence beings race knows that Jesus a special man came to earth 2000 yrs ago, but they don't KNOW He is the Second Person of the Godhead Yahweh. They said they were monitoring him while he was on earth.
The fallen angels and demons on earth KNOW who Jesus is the Son of God and NOT God the Father and he told them to be quite and NOT to talk about it.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 13, 2020 21:23:59 GMT -5
Oh, really? Sounds like STR had a great dream. And when has anyone on this board or Ehrman himself stated Jesus doesn’t exist? He’s a scholar that argues that Jesus existed. Shows your lack of understanding of a person you keep calling a quack!! Yes, a few on readers on TMB have said Jesus did NOT existed and we went round and round with them. They used Bart as their golden boy.That does not make sense. It is important to read what people say. Absorb. What has Ant Rotten just said Nathan ?
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Post by ant_rotten on Mar 13, 2020 21:24:58 GMT -5
Oh, really? Sounds like STR had a great dream. And when has anyone on this board or Ehrman himself stated Jesus doesn’t exist? He’s a scholar that argues that Jesus existed. Shows your lack of understanding of a person you keep calling a quack!! Yes, a few on readers on TMB have said Jesus did NOT existed and we went round and round with them. They used Bart as their golden boy.Well that’s a claim that Ehrman himself has NEVER made..
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Post by BobWilliston on Mar 13, 2020 21:31:02 GMT -5
Yes, a few on readers on TMB have said Jesus did NOT existed and we went round and round with them. They used Bart as their golden boy. Well that’s a claim that Ehrman himself has NEVER made.. Nathan has no critical reading skills -- he interprets everything in his limited vernacular which doesn't allow for articulateness.
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Post by nathan on Mar 13, 2020 21:31:30 GMT -5
Yes, a few on readers on TMB have said Jesus did NOT existed and we went round and round with them. They used Bart as their golden boy. Well that’s a claim that Ehrman himself has NEVER made.. Bart wrote: And so, with Did Jesus Exist?, I do not expect to convince anyone in that boat. What I do hope is to convince genuine seekers who really want to know how we know that Jesus did exist, as virtually every scholar of antiquity, of biblical studies, of classics, and of Christian origins in this country and, in fact, in the Western world agrees. Many of these scholars have no vested interest in the matter. As it turns out, I myself do not either. I am not a Christian, and I have no interest in promoting a Christian cause or a Christian agenda. I am an agnostic with atheist leanings, and my life and views of the world would be approximately the same whether or not Jesus existed. My beliefs would vary little. The answer to the question of Jesus’s historical existence will not make me more or less happy, content, hopeful, likable, rich, famous, or immortal. strangenotions.com/skeptic-bart-ehrman-on-whether-jesus-really-existed/
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