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Post by xna on Feb 29, 2020 14:34:49 GMT -5
And those signs of our times are not just signs such as wars and rumors of wars. Those signs include rapid increase of earthquakes, volcano eruptions, and natural disasters, deadly sickness (in spite of modern medical abilities) and things like the coronavirus etc. etc. etc. (plagues). Doomsdayers have always been around, but no rational person believes this or has any data to support that claim that the world is getting worse. The world is getting better not worse. The book THE MORAL ARC shows covers this for anyone who cares about the truth. Short version Longer Version
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Post by xna on Feb 29, 2020 14:48:26 GMT -5
Rough translation - eat, drink and be merry - tomorrow the masses perish, just as it was when only 8 people were saved. So, I take it that you, xna, will continue to sleep on while the earth shakes under your sleeping frame - and THAT is sad choice to me - but just maybe you'll think it over yet, to your own benefit if no one else. @gratu Well I have been in a few earthquakes. But each time I didn't think the gods were mad because I know how earthquakes work. If you think doomsday is just around the corner I don't have a problem with that as long as your delusion doesn't hurt anyone else. But I would hope you would be honest enough to look at the facts. Those words were written a long long time ago by some unknown bronze age writer. There is no evidence of Noah's flood or evidence of any gods other than in the imaginations of men. Life makes more sense when you believe more things that are true and less things that are false. People can believe things based on; good evidence, bad evidence and even no evidence. But the best time to believe something is true is AFTER you have good reasons, based on evidence. Believing without good reasons is just being gullible. Sometimes we need to grow up and realized those children's stories were just that, children's stories.
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Post by curlywurlysammagee on Feb 29, 2020 14:57:37 GMT -5
Well @gratu the more I looked into this matter, the more I think both James Randi and René Salm from his book The Myth of Nazareth got this wrong. I came to this conclusion after reading Bart Ehrman's blog on the subject Did Nazareth Exist? That's called, changing your mind based on new evidence, which is the opposite of your biblical dogma. I will also point out that if James Randi and René Salm got this wrong, it does not follow that the bible got it right. The only support for the bible claim of where Jesus was born is the bible, and in that, only in one of the four synoptic gospels says that. But what we can prove is; James Randi was able to show no one could demonstrate any supernatural claim, (you know like in the bible) during the many years of the One Million Dollar Paranormal Challenge. GREAT!!! - you did a bit of research on that vid after posting it and found it wanting, again by the opinions of modern men - ho hum. But it is honorable that you now admit that vid isn't worth a bit of watching because it is BIASED. "The only support for the bible claim of where Jesus was born is the bible, and in that, only in one of the four synoptic gospels says that." For believers THAT is solid 'granite' on which to stand, as given by the Creator Himself. And I already gave you the evidence of the supernatural fact that the current widespread dumping of the Bible (even by church-goers) as the word of the Creator is predicted in the Bible written AGES ago, but then the Bible also predicts that as it was in the days of Noah it will be again in the last days (which we have lived in for 2000 years already) - i.e., the masses will 'eat, drink, and be marry' right up to (and beyond) the actual last opportunity to change their minds and heed the signs of our times, which were foretold AGES ago in the Bible. And for you, xna, I sure hope that you do not remain asleep to those signs of our times because you have just shown a willingness to change your mind while you have time to do so. And those signs of our times are not just signs such as wars and rumors of wars. Those signs include rapid increase of earthquakes, volcano eruptions, and natural disasters, deadly sickness (in spite of modern medical abilities) and things like the coronavirus etc. etc. etc. (plagues). How much does it take to convince you that by simply accepting and believing that Jesus died FOR YOUR mistakes 2000 years ago, setting you free from death of the second breed of it -- i.e., eternal separation from ALL that is good - and promised by the Creator for believers of that Good News? How solid is granite, how durable is granite? Go to Yosemite and stand at the bottom of any of the big walls. You will be standing on piles of rock that have fallen from this solid wall. The faces are riven with cracks. These are often what the climbers use to ascend the faces. However water also gets into these cracks and in winter freezes which weakens the rock. The freeze thaw action works away at the rock with the result that huge pieces break off and plunge to the bottom of the face. That part is the theory of gravity at work. The bible is very similar. Full of cracks in the stories. Focus a bit of light on those stories and the cracks widen and soon the "granite" of the bible, just like the granite of Yosemite is smashed. Truth will always upend the bible stories.
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Post by curlywurlysammagee on Feb 29, 2020 15:09:59 GMT -5
"Doomsdayers have always been around" I am not a "Doomsdayer" nor am I sorry that I am alive at this time. I am most excited by the times that I am living in, having been observant of these exciting things since childhood within 2x2ism. And I do take a look at the stats on things like increase of earthquakes etc. etc. etc. Thanks for the vid, but thanks mostly for leaving the viewer the choice of whether to play them - at least these two have pleasant looking faces. See ya xna - I am already late for an appointment. You say there has been an increase in earthquakes. That really shows how ignorant you are of tectonic plate movement and mountain building. Your ignorance is glaringly obvious and is something you should not be proud of. Go do a course or two on geology.
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Post by sharingtheriches on Feb 29, 2020 18:48:30 GMT -5
For believers THAT is solid 'granite' on which to stand, as given by the Creator Himself. And I already gave you the evidence of the supernatural fact that the current widespread dumping of the Bible as the word of the Creator is predicted in the Bible written AGES ago, but then the Bible also predicts that as it was in the days of Noah it will be again in the last days (which we have lived in for 2000 years already) - i.e., the masses will 'eat, drink, and be marry' right up to the actual last opportunity to change their minds and heed the signs of our times, which were foretold AGES ago in the Bible. @gratu Christianity is not being turned away from, like in the days of Noah. Today there are 2.1 Billion Saved Christians. If I recall correctly, the bible says in Noah day, 8 were saved. 8 vs. 2,000,000,000 are not even close to being comparable numbers ..... You don't even need to take your shoes off to tell the difference..... You must be joking There weren’t as many people in those days either.
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Post by xna on Feb 29, 2020 19:05:44 GMT -5
There weren’t as many people in those days either.[/quote] Found 8 vs 27,000,000 ————————- The global flood story requires that only eight people were left alive in 2349 BCE, given the standard Ussher chronology.[29] Beside the fact that three brothers and their wives were said to be the ancestors of everyone alive today (and up to 7 for every "kind" of animal on the planet), this simply does not allow enough time for humans or animals to repopulate the earth given reasonable population growth rates.[30] In 2000 BCE, only 350 years after the flood, the population of the world was 27 million
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Post by Deleted on Feb 29, 2020 19:23:28 GMT -5
There weren’t as many people in those days either. Found 8 vs 27,000,000 ————————- The global flood story requires that only eight people were left alive in 2349 BCE, given the standard Ussher chronology.[29] Beside the fact that three brothers and their wives were said to be the ancestors of everyone alive today (and up to 7 for every "kind" of animal on the planet), this simply does not allow enough time for humans or animals to repopulate the earth given reasonable population growth rates.[30] In 2000 BCE, only 350 years after the flood, the population of the world was 27 million[/quote] --------------------------------said by wally.... well they went from a couple dozen or so to about 2 million hebrews in the 400 years of slavery to the egyptians
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Post by rational on Feb 29, 2020 21:31:47 GMT -5
Well @gratu the more I looked into this matter, the more I think both James Randi and René Salm from his book The Myth of Nazareth got this wrong. I came to this conclusion after reading Bart Ehrman's blog on the subject Did Nazareth Exist? That's called, changing your mind based on new evidence, which is the opposite of your biblical dogma. I will also point out that if James Randi and René Salm got this wrong, it does not follow that the bible got it right. The only support for the bible claim of where Jesus was born is the bible, and in that, only in one of the four synoptic gospels says that. But what we can prove is; James Randi was able to show no one could demonstrate any supernatural claim, (you know like in the bible) during the many years of the One Million Dollar Paranormal Challenge. GREAT!!! - you did a bit of research on that vid after posting it and found it wanting, again by the opinions of modern men - ho hum. But it is honorable that you now admit that vid isn't worth a bit of watching because it is BIASED. Of course, unlike the countless videos you posted, all with creationist sources, which were completely biased without any information to support the claims. But at least the people commenting on your videos had the integrity to look at the information instead of simply discarding it. Are you sure it is not Swiss cheese? The number of holes in the information you post is astounding for something you consider solid facts. Using the bible as a text to prove that the being that inspired the text is a perfect example of circular reasoning. I think everyone, like xna, would change our minds if that is what the data shows. First, if Jesus did exist and if he did end up as claimed in the bible it was because placed himself in an untenable situation and those in power killed him. I had nothing to do with it. I don't know what mistakes you think xna has made but Jesus cannot undo any of the things I have done which, looking back, could have been done in a far better way. I did them and I take full responsibility. I do not feel the need for s scapegoat. Perhaps you do but there is no need to project your anxiety regarding death and whatever you imagine happening after death on others.
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Post by rational on Feb 29, 2020 21:49:58 GMT -5
"Doomsdayers have always been around" I am not a "Doomsdayer" nor am I sorry that I am alive at this time. I am most excited by the times that I am living in, having been observant of these exciting things since childhood within 2x2ism. And I do take a look at the stats on things like increase of earthquakes etc. etc. etc. You mentioned some earthquake frequency statistics you had looked at. Do you have a reference pointing to the statistics that show an increase in earthquake activity? I found the following but it contradicts what you claimed: Abstract The recent elevated rate of large earthquakes has fueled concern that the underlying global rate of earthquake activity has increased, which would have important implications for assessments of seismic hazard and our understanding of how faults interact. We examine the timing of large (magnitude M≥7) earthquakes from 1900 to the present, after removing local clustering related to aftershocks. The global rate of M≥8 earthquakes has been at a record high roughly since 2004, but rates have been almost as high before, and the rate of smaller earthquakes is close to its historical average. Some features of the global catalog are improbable in retrospect, but so are some features of most random sequences—if the features are selected after looking at the data. For a variety of magnitude cutoffs and three statistical tests, the global catalog, with local clusters removed, is not distinguishable from a homogeneous Poisson process. Moreover, no plausible physical mechanism predicts real changes in the underlying global rate of large events. Together these facts suggest that the global risk of large earthquakes is no higher today than it has been in the past. (emphasis added)[/quote] Thanks for the insight into how you evaluate videos.
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Post by rational on Feb 29, 2020 21:52:24 GMT -5
well they went from a couple dozen or so to about 2 million hebrews in the 400 years of slavery to the egyptians So the bible claims...
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Post by rational on Feb 29, 2020 23:06:57 GMT -5
Thanks for the insight into how you evaluate videos. Well, with your computed expertise it should have been obvious that the paragraph from which you quoted ( "Abstract The recent elevated rate of large earthquakes has fueled concern that the underlying global rate of earthquake activity has....” was the link to the article. I am sorry that you do not understand the way this message board functions but your lack of understanding and ability to use computers is not my fault. For once why don't you take responsibility for your shortcomings. If you need assistance navigating this forum perhaps asking for help would be positive way to learn new skills rather than always pointing your finger and blaming someone else for your limited skill set. In this case you really put your lack of computer skills on display since the URL is contained in your reply. And that URL is a pointer to the site with the source and that source names the author. Every point you made in your reply was wrong. And as expected - no reference to support your claim that you had looked at statistics regarding the increasing frequency of earthquakes. That does not surprise me.
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Post by dmmichgood on Mar 1, 2020 0:33:19 GMT -5
And those signs of our times are not just signs such as wars and rumors of wars. Those signs include rapid increase of earthquakes, volcano eruptions, and natural disasters, deadly sickness (in spite of modern medical abilities) and things like the coronavirus etc. etc. etc. (plagues). Doomsdayers have always been around, but no rational person believes this or has any data to support that claim that the world is getting worse. The world is getting better not worse. The book THE MORAL ARC shows covers this for anyone who cares about the truth. Short version Longer Version I once had the audacity to write and ask Michael Shermer about something and he sent me a personal letter answering my question.
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Post by curlywurlysammagee on Mar 1, 2020 22:36:25 GMT -5
I see you did not respond to my post. You certainly are the artful dodger. Typical christian. Here it is again. You say there has been an increase in earthquakes. That really shows how ignorant you are of tectonic plate movement and mountain building. Your ignorance is glaringly obvious and is something you should not be proud of. Go do a course or two on geology.
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Post by curlywurlysammagee on Mar 1, 2020 23:38:30 GMT -5
I see you did not respond to my post. You certainly are the artful dodger. Typical christian. Here it is again. You say there has been an increase in earthquakes. That really shows how ignorant you are of tectonic plate movement and mountain building. Your ignorance is glaringly obvious and is something you should not be proud of. Go do a course or two on geology. Once AGAIN for the hundredth time, I no longer post anything for the eyes of the atheist/evolutionists on this board – since something like a month after I registered on this board – in fact every one of them is set to ignore such that I only see their posts while I am logged out. Now, you can indeed cast THAT into “artful dodger “ if it tickles your arm pit hairs, but I no longer post anything for the eyes of atheist/elolutionists on this board, not even those responses to the few of their posts that I cannot help but see while logged out – got it yet – huh - like not even this reply to yours is posted for your eyes, but rather to display your long-stretching ignorance of what you have been told for very near a year already. That's a rather long winded reply to me just to say you do not have any evidence of more earthquakes and you really do not know what you are talking about. Can you tell us how many people have been conned by your deceitfulness since you joined this board with the name Gratu.
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Post by curlywurlysammagee on Mar 2, 2020 0:00:35 GMT -5
Thanks for full quoting mine posted to demonstrate your long-stretched ignoarance of what you have been told for nearly a year - I'll happily leave YOU holding your own bag now. You have been found wanting and because you cannot answer truthfully you try and ignore the question. What kind of man are you?
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Post by Roselyn T on Mar 2, 2020 0:48:29 GMT -5
You have been found wanting and because you cannot answer truthfully you try and ignore the question. What kind of man are you? If YOU like THAT twist on your own continuing insistent ignorance, why would I object. A normal elementary student would have by now understood that I choose not to post anything for your eyes, but your ignorance just continues and I don't mind displaying it to all by posting this reply for that purpose. To be "found wanting" by a former 2x2 atheist on TMB is a compliment in my estimation of it, being human I have the human tendency to like compliments far more that I should. A "normal elementary student" would understand by now if you comment on a public board like TMB you cannot stop others from reading your comments !!! Go start you own board @gratu !!!
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Post by curlywurlysammagee on Mar 2, 2020 1:42:26 GMT -5
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Post by curlywurlysammagee on Mar 2, 2020 1:55:28 GMT -5
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Post by Roselyn T on Mar 2, 2020 2:00:12 GMT -5
A "normal elementary student" would understand by now if you comment on a public board like TMB you cannot stop others from reading your comments !!! Go start you own board @gratu !!! For 2x2/visitors - It begins to look like this information will become just as repetitious as what I have stated regarding posting nothing for the eyes of former 2x2 atheist/evolulionists - ho hum. TMB is not the only board that I post on. -----but it continues in willful ignorance of that information, "Go start you own board gratu !!!" -- "TMB is not the only board that I post on." ---- "Go start you own board gratu !!!" -- "TMB is not the only board that I post on" ----"Go start you own board gratu !!!" ----......ad nauseum. And now it begins to look like the TMB atheist/evololutionists are gonna TRY their AGE-old gang bang technique that aims at making their collective chicken poop true eventually come hell or high water - so stay tuned and watch which of that gang bank crew shows up next pushing that same chicken poop. I am sure the 2x2/visitors you "think" you post for can see "a lot of things" @gratu !!
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Post by rational on Mar 2, 2020 16:01:25 GMT -5
Thanks for full quoting mine posted to demonstrate your long-stretched ignoarance of what you have been told for nearly a year - I'll happily leave YOU holding your own bag now. You have been found wanting and because you cannot answer truthfully you try and ignore the question. What kind of man are you? He is the same as he was when I first noticed the lack of any data to support the claims he was posting, the fact that with few exceptions the source for the videos were creationist sites, many affiliated with the The Discovery Institute, Answers in Genesis, Biblical Science Institute, etc. Initially @gratu denied that the source of the videos creationist/ID sites even in the face of having the copyright holders pointed out. When pressed for answers they were promised but I doubt that will appear any sooner than the peer reviewed publication of Lisle's work on the starlight issue. What is sad is that some like Jason Lisle and Michael Behe were highly respected scientists with research supported by verifiable data until they joined their respective creationist sites. Others like Kent Hovind just spread fictional information. When directly confronted with evidence of errors @gratu makes no effort to correct the "information" being presented to the mythical people he claims arecept responsibility for his actions.the target of the thread and instead lapses into playing the idiot often starting empty responses with something like "Awwwww I nowwwww –...". Responding helps, as time consuming as it is, to keep factual and verifiable information available and his habit of deleting his posts reduces the number of false/misleading/biased statements available.
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Post by dmmichgood on Mar 2, 2020 17:39:58 GMT -5
As for Dr. Lisle, he has the credentials that fit his video presentations, is widely esteemed for his presentations, and rational can spin all the ad hominem he wants upon Jason Lisle and I will continue posting Dr. Lisles video titles and links, leaving the 2x2/visitor the option of viewing them or not. Could we perhaps put Jason P. Lisle to rest?
He appears to have been a good scientist until he "sold his soul to the devil"
rationalwiki.org/wiki/Jason_Lisle
Jason P. Lislefor was previously Director of Research at the Institute for Creation Research, as well as a speaker and researcher for Answers in Genesis. Dr. Lisle is a creationist with a Ph.D. in astrophysics from the University of Colorado Boulder. Lisle earned his undergraduate degree from Ohio Wesleyan University summa cum laude with a double-major in physics and astronomy and a minor in mathematics. His postgraduate research concentrated on solar dynamics, utilizing NASA's Solar and Heliospheric Observatory (SOHO) to monitor the surface of the sun. His dissertation "Probing the Dynamics of Solar Supergranulation and its Interaction with Magnetism" is available from the University of Colorado and he has also published numerous papers in legitimate scientific journals concerning convection cells in the sun. Although some creationists claim that a creationist could not earn an advanced degree from a secular university because of institutional prejudice against their beliefs, Lisle's creationism failed to hinder his academic progress. While members of his Master's thesis and Ph.D. dissertation committees might have been aware of his young Earth beliefs, their evaluation of his work was based on his research and not on his personal beliefs. Creationism and starlightGiven his qualifications in astrophysics, Lisle has become an authority on the "starlight problem" in creationist circles. However, his explanation for how distant starlight is compatible with a 6 day creation only a few thousand years ago is very, very weak. It essentially consists of immediately throwing out the conventional science just because it conflicts with scripture and then proposing that "creation was supernatural, therefore cannot be understood scientifically".
Most of Lisle's points just begin with the claim that the Bible must be true, cannot change and so can explain everything and he's no stranger to wall-bangingly circular logic. It shouldn't need to be stated that this is the opposite of what a good scientist should do. cont.@ rationalwiki.org/wiki/Jason_Lisle
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Post by Deleted on Mar 2, 2020 19:14:33 GMT -5
As for Dr. Lisle, he has the credentials that fit his video presentations, is widely esteemed for his presentations, and rational can spin all the ad hominem he wants upon Jason Lisle and I will continue posting Dr. Lisles video titles and links, leaving the 2x2/visitor the option of viewing them or not. Could we perhaps put Jason P. Lisle to rest?
He appears to have been a good scientist until he "sold his soul to the devil"
ah no true scotsman....
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Post by rational on Mar 3, 2020 11:36:58 GMT -5
rational - "Initially gratu denied that the source of the videos creationist/ID sites even in the face of having the copyright holders pointed out. When pressed for answers they were promised but I doubt that will appear any sooner than the peer reviewed publication of Lisle's work on the starlight issue. What is sad is that some like Jason Lisle and Michael Behe were highly respected scientists with research supported by verifiable data until they joined their respective creationist sites. Others like Kent Hovind just spread fictional information." It would seem that rational has ONLY one thing to regurgitate against gratu in a whole year - at that time all my posted video titles and links came from Youtube, not rational's hated "creationist sites" - and THAT discussion that took place between he and others and I during the first month I was registered on this board nearly a year ago - and he now similarly re-writes a tale after his own design in order to have even that concocted ad hominem to TRY endlessly to regurgitate upon gratu. Spin it as you wish. The vast majority of your posted links were sourced from creationist sites. Lisle does have an excellent educational background and did publish well researched, well documented, and well received papers. However, since joining the creationist organizations the research and publication has ceased. Research to support his claims has been promised but never delivered. In the meantime most of hise claims made to support young earth creation have beed shown to be in error.[/quote] Message boards have a long memory, even regarding those who try to change the facts by deleting their posts. And people have long memories as well. I am still waiting for a response to: “Of course in that case the review would be by a single person based on their interpretation of the scripture.” Oh really – what about the scientists who expound science from a Biblical perspective right in the videos/articles? And I am trained in Biblical exegesis myself, so there are at least two reviewing every bit of it by Scripture, andn several other skilled Bible believers involved with each viseo production/presentation as well as the presentation of every written article I have linked. (Emphasis added) Still wondering where and when you got this training.
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Post by rational on Mar 4, 2020 10:39:23 GMT -5
Spin it as you wish. The vast majority of your posted links were sourced from creationist sites. Lisle does have an excellent educational background and did publish well researched, well documented, and well received papers. However, since joining the creationist organizations the research and publication has ceased. Research to support his claims has been promised but never delivered. In the meantime most of hise claims made to support young earth creation have beed shown to be in error. Message boards have a long memory, even regarding those who try to change the facts by deleting their posts. And people have long memories as well. I am still waiting for a response to: “Of course in that case the review would be by a single person based on their interpretation of the scripture.” Oh really – what about the scientists who expound science from a Biblical perspective right in the videos/articles? And I am trained in Biblical exegesis myself, so there are at least two reviewing every bit of it by Scripture, andn several other skilled Bible believers involved with each viseo production/presentation as well as the presentation of every written article I have linked. (Emphasis added) Still wondering where and when you got this training. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- gratu's reply, Ah huh - rigged so no reply can be put below the quote box again - so it goes inside the quote box - ho hum. Oh, ya, another regurgitated stupid suggestion – normally when a person asks a question a second time and gets nor answer, most people conclude they are not welcome to an answer, but not rational – where and what I studied in the past and study now is ESPECIALLY NONE OF rational's BUSINESS – there, after rational is regurgitating that ancient suggestion about the 'hundredth' time over the past year, if he can read, that dum act has been answered for everyone EXCEPT rational – who no doubt will regurgitate it all over again as if it were not answered – maybe next year. And in case any 2x2/visitor needs to understand this second answer to rational's suggestive question, let me say that I did answer rational at least once ages ago, stating something to the effect that I am not willing to add yet another Bible institution to rational's hate list. [/quote]So, still no answer? It is not the institutions that are at issue it is the false information they dispense. Is there a danger to pseudoscience? Of course. The World Health Organization and the CDC say in a new report that there were nearly 10 million cases of measles last year, with outbreaks on every continent. An estimated 140,000 people died from measles in 2018, WHO says, up from an all-time low of 90,000 in 2016. Anti-vaccination activities actually caused a state of emergency to be declared in the state of Washington. Beliefs do not protect people.
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Post by rational on Mar 4, 2020 16:31:50 GMT -5
Ah huh - rigged so no reply can be put below the quote box again - so it goes inside the quote box - ho hum. There is nothing rigged. The problem is between your keyboard/keypad and the back of your seat. If you don't want to be asked about things you post - don't post them. Guess I missed that post. Probably someone 'rigged' the message board... It displays patterns of actual evidence, actual evidence so I am not surprised that you hailed to understand. There is a pattern of the rise in infectious disease in areas where there has been anti-vaccination activity. It is one of the dangers of people posting pseudoscience as fact. It is the reason that people put the effort into correcting the pages of misinformation you post.
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Post by rational on Mar 4, 2020 17:27:27 GMT -5
Just checking rational's post to see if this one full quoted allows a reply below the quote box this time round - yup it does - and the rational ad hominem, "There is nothing rigged. The problem is between your keyboard/keypad and the back of your seat." is just that ad nauseum ad infinitum - the 'fix' seems to affect only full quotes of rational's postings - occasionally - more frequently in the last couple of days than ever before - so if it is NOT a rational-fixing, it surely looks like it is. And since rational piecemeal quotes my reply given previously, there is no need for me to repeat it in one piece again here. You know, you are not required to reply at all...
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Post by rational on Mar 4, 2020 18:48:06 GMT -5
You know, you are not required to reply at all... Yup, but then I would not be living up to those other TMB demolition crews' ad hominem accusing me of bumping 'my threads' topside if I failed to reply to rational's false ad hominem spewed over and over and over and over and over ----..... in clear attempt of character assassination of gratu - ho hum. And rational conveniently 'forgets' that I cannot see his posts while logged in - thankfully so. So, it appears that rational now suggests that I just let him throw up all over gratu with no response to his false ad hominem against gratu from the time of gratu's registry to this day - oh if only gratu would shut up, rational could get away with charcter assassination of gratu - ho hum. You are incorrect in stating that I conveniently forgot you cannot see my posts because I never knew that was the case and and I don't care one way or the other. You have had multiple opportunities to respond but to date you have just been going on and on saying you were unfairly accused and it was a false ad hominem attack. I provided you with with excerpts from Lisle's work that mirrored your claims but you were too concerned with finding what would have been a copyright issue instead of addressing the facts at hand. I am not throwing up on anyone. I simply an letting the issue rest as it is.
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Post by rational on Mar 4, 2020 20:29:49 GMT -5
<SNIP>....@gratu voicing concerns....<SNIP> I explained in detail why I made the claim of plagiarism - you claimed to have developed on your own the same theory regarding the 'starlight' problem that Lisle presented in the video you posted. You had multiple opportunities to respond. You choose not to. Time to let it rest as it is.
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