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Post by sharingtheriches on Nov 23, 2019 17:14:14 GMT -5
So basically you're telling Chuck to go to hell. You believe that if he's not a 2x2 he's going to hell, them you tell him to leave the 2x2's. I would think that is not something your God would condone if it's true the 2x2's are the only route to heaven. Would God be happy with you encouraging Chuck to leave do you think? ** Chuckie is liken the TARES among us, the 5 foolish virgins or the goat. According to many of his posts on here, he is NOT a happy and contend 2x2. Chuckie calls the 2x2 church is a Cult, the 2x2 system is faulty for being exclusive church. He thinks the grass is greener on the other side of the 2x2 fence. He likes the Baptists OSAS doctrine and being non-exclusive believer. If Chuckie doesn't agree with the 2x2 system, doctrines and with workers teachings and fellowship. When he disagee with the 2x2 exclusive teaching and NOT a happy camper. Why, STAY? Perhaps, he wants to STAY in the fellowship to promote his non-exclusive belief among the friends. Nathan, if Chuck is a tare what does that say about you? Shame on you being judgmental against another man’s servant.
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Post by sharingtheriches on Nov 23, 2019 17:15:54 GMT -5
So basically you're telling Chuck to go to hell. You believe that if he's not a 2x2 he's going to hell, them you tell him to leave the 2x2's. I would think that is not something your God would condone if it's true the 2x2's are the only route to heaven. Would God be happy with you encouraging Chuck to leave do you think? ** Chuckie is liken the TARES among us, the 5 foolish virgins or the goat. According to many of his posts on here, he is NOT a happy and contend 2x2. Chuckie calls the 2x2 church is a Cult, the 2x2 system is faulty for being exclusive church. He thinks the grass is greener on the other side of the 2x2 fence. He likes the Baptists OSAS doctrine and being non-exclusive believer. If Chuckie doesn't agree with the 2x2 system, doctrines and with workers teachings and fellowship. When he disagee with the 2x2 exclusive teaching and NOT a happy camper. Why, STAY? Perhaps, he wants to STAY in the fellowship to promote his non-exclusive belief among the friends. The sheep versus the goats will be the judgment Jesus will set upon the nations of the world and how they treat Israel during the 7 year tribulation.
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Post by sharingtheriches on Nov 23, 2019 17:21:38 GMT -5
Wally is Nathans lap dog. Wally accuses me of being a JW. Nathan accuses me of being Baptist Wally forgets he accused me of being JW and likes Nathans Baptist accusing post. I call him out on it. Now they both look like fools because I'm neither. And even bigger fools that they haven't worked out by now I don't need any system's to be saved by Christ!
You said you don't need a system/2x2 to be saved by Christ. Then WHY are you still a 2x2?If it were possible I likely would go to Sunday meetings but it’s not possible where I’m living simply because an errant worker is allowed to continue as if nothing happened plus I can’t be testifying without telling the greatness of my God and Saviour as being one and the same.
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Post by sharingtheriches on Nov 23, 2019 17:29:53 GMT -5
I’ve heard that our eternal life starts when we are born again. This was said by a brother worker, then why do you die after awhile? you don't get anything till after you die.... Because corruptible has to become incorruptible. You either die and you body decays awAy unto dusts and ashes so that when resurrection comes saints are given an incorruptible body—this is the salvation of our bodies. If we’re alive when the first resurrection happens , our bodies have to change, for corruptible flesh cannot enter into heaven. But the born again spirit enters into the corruptible body when a person is born again of the spirit by the Spirit. This born again spirit is that of life eternal within us, a life of eternal salvation.
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Post by sharingtheriches on Nov 23, 2019 17:33:26 GMT -5
Paul knew things the apostles didn't.... John the apostle saw things in heaven, when he was on the island of Patmos and event most of the apostles had NO clue whatsoever! That kind of revelation is still happening today, you know. How could Paul write anything in the Book of Enoch when it was written hundreds of years before Paul's birth? That would be quite the feat! I think it was intel who said that the book of Enoch is not original, that it’s been added to off and on. Or something like that. That’d make it seem so unreasonable.
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Post by sharingtheriches on Nov 23, 2019 17:35:00 GMT -5
Maybe he enjoys the fellowship with the group? His family are in the group, why would he want to leave. He doesn't need to believe that the only way to heaven is through the group to want to be part of the group. That makes no sense. why would chuckie enjoy fellowship with a group he's claimed is a cult? The system is a cult simply because they don’t believe what the Bible says plainly that Jesus is God. That’s the definition of a Christian cult.
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Post by dmmichgood on Nov 23, 2019 17:50:15 GMT -5
There is just one thing that I can say about this particular thread; -I'm so glad that I don't have to fret & worry about these kinds of ideas any more.
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Post by janj on Nov 23, 2019 18:40:43 GMT -5
why would chuckie enjoy fellowship with a group he's claimed is a cult? The system is a cult simply because they don’t believe what the Bible says plainly that Jesus is God. That’s the definition of a Christian cult. [br Well that's a new way to define something. 'If they dont believe as I believe they are a cult' Hmmmm
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Post by janj on Nov 23, 2019 18:47:34 GMT -5
So basically you're telling Chuck to go to hell. You believe that if he's not a 2x2 he's going to hell, them you tell him to leave the 2x2's. I would think that is not something your God would condone if it's true the 2x2's are the only route to heaven. Would God be happy with you encouraging Chuck to leave do you think? ** Chuckie is liken the TARES among us, the 5 foolish virgins or the goat. According to many of his posts on here, he is NOT a happy and contend 2x2. Chuckie calls the 2x2 church is a Cult, the 2x2 system is faulty for being exclusive church. He thinks the grass is greener on the other side of the 2x2 fence. He likes the Baptists OSAS doctrine and being non-exclusive believer. If Chuckie doesn't agree with the 2x2 system, doctrines and with workers teachings and fellowship. When he disagee with the 2x2 exclusive teaching and NOT a happy camper. Why, STAY? Perhaps, he wants to STAY in the fellowship to promote his non-exclusive belief among the friends. Really -are you serious. This is unbelievable. You are telling someone else that they should have fellowship with the 2x2s because they dont agree with everything they do. What about YOU?? You are constantly telling us that you don't agree with their doctrine on the Trinity and they've got it all wrong but you continue to go along and have fellowship with them!
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Post by nathan on Nov 23, 2019 19:10:01 GMT -5
** Chuckie is liken the TARES among us, the 5 foolish virgins or the goat. According to many of his posts on here, he is NOT a happy and contend 2x2. Chuckie calls the 2x2 church is a Cult, the 2x2 system is faulty for being exclusive church. He thinks the grass is greener on the other side of the 2x2 fence. He likes the Baptists OSAS doctrine and being non-exclusive believer. If Chuckie doesn't agree with the 2x2 system, doctrines and with workers teachings and fellowship. When he disagee with the 2x2 exclusive teaching and NOT a happy camper. Why, STAY? Perhaps, he wants to STAY in the fellowship to promote his non-exclusive belief among the friends. Nathan, if Chuck is a tare what does that say about you? Shame on you being judgmental against another man’s servant. ** I am a Wheat. The TARES and wheat mixed in God's house on earth. The 5 foolish mixed with 5 wise virgins. The TARES mixed with wheat. The goats mixed with the sheep. The Wheat can spot the Tares, the 5 foolish virgins, the goats by their manners of life, action and speech. Jesus said BY their FRUITS ye shall KNOW them.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 23, 2019 19:14:49 GMT -5
** Chuckie is liken the TARES among us, the 5 foolish virgins or the goat. According to many of his posts on here, he is NOT a happy and contend 2x2. Chuckie calls the 2x2 church is a Cult, the 2x2 system is faulty for being exclusive church. He thinks the grass is greener on the other side of the 2x2 fence. He likes the Baptists OSAS doctrine and being non-exclusive believer. If Chuckie doesn't agree with the 2x2 system, doctrines and with workers teachings and fellowship. When he disagee with the 2x2 exclusive teaching and NOT a happy camper. Why, STAY? Perhaps, he wants to STAY in the fellowship to promote his non-exclusive belief among the friends. Nathan, if Chuck is a tare what does that say about you? Shame on you being judgmental against another man’s servant. Mat_5:16 Let your light so shine before men, that they may see your good works, and glorify your Father which is in heaven. Mat_7:20 Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them. if you don't do good works then people are gonna notice and say something....
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Post by nathan on Nov 23, 2019 19:24:45 GMT -5
** Chuckie is liken the TARES among us, the 5 foolish virgins or the goat. According to many of his posts on here, he is NOT a happy and contend 2x2. Chuckie calls the 2x2 church is a Cult, the 2x2 system is faulty for being exclusive church. He thinks the grass is greener on the other side of the 2x2 fence. He likes the Baptists OSAS doctrine and being non-exclusive believer. If Chuckie doesn't agree with the 2x2 system, doctrines and with workers teachings and fellowship. When he disagee with the 2x2 exclusive teaching and NOT a happy camper. Why, STAY? Perhaps, he wants to STAY in the fellowship to promote his non-exclusive belief among the friends. Really -are you serious. This is unbelievable. You are telling someone else that they should have fellowship with the 2x2s because they dont agree with everything they do. What about YOU?? You are constantly telling us that you don't agree with their doctrine on the Trinity and they've got it all wrong but you continue to go along and have fellowship with them! ** The 2x2s believe and worship the TRINITY every Sunday morning but they don't understand that at this moment. So, to say Trinity is heresy/Pagan is false. I am trying to help the current workers and friends to see their error and hopefully change their thinking. The cuurrent workers believe in exclusive Jesus 2x2 apostolic/workers ministry and worship the Godhead- Father, Christ and Holy Spirit every Sunday. If the 2x2 lost their two basic foundation of jesus New Test teachings then I will get the heck out of dodge ASAP.
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Post by Grant on Nov 23, 2019 19:28:20 GMT -5
Nathan, if Chuck is a tare what does that say about you? Shame on you being judgmental against another man’s servant. ** I am a Wheat. The TARES and wheat mixed in the God's house on earth. The 5 foolish mixed with 5 wise virgins. The TARES mixed with wheat. The goats mixed with the sheep. Are you really a 2x2 Nathan? You have spent years trying to drive people away from meetings. You're even trying to drive chuck from them. What right do you have to attack a fellow believer. I really wonder if your reason for being on this board is to take people away from meetings. You spend more time attacking and putting down professing folk than everyone else put together.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 23, 2019 19:37:00 GMT -5
** I am a Wheat. The TARES and wheat mixed in the God's house on earth. The 5 foolish mixed with 5 wise virgins. The TARES mixed with wheat. The goats mixed with the sheep. Are you really a 2x2 Nathan? You have spent years trying to drive people away from meetings. You're even trying to drive chuck from them. What right do you have to attack a fellow believer. I really wonder if your reason for being on this board is to take people away from meetings. You spend more time attacking and putting down professing folk than everyone else put together. if nathans comments are bugging you then chuckie should really be on your radar...
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Post by nathan on Nov 23, 2019 19:38:02 GMT -5
** I am a Wheat. The TARES and wheat mixed in the God's house on earth. The 5 foolish mixed with 5 wise virgins. The TARES mixed with wheat. The goats mixed with the sheep. Are you really a 2x2 Nathan? You have spent years trying to drive people away from meetings. You're even trying to drive chuck from them. What right do you have to attack a fellow believer. I really wonder if your reason for being on this board is to take people away from meetings. You spend more time attacking and putting down professing folk than everyone else put together. ** I am trying to help the TARES in our fellowship to see their errors, so they don't get all bundle/gathered up in the end to be burned. None of us want to hearJesus words, Depart from me, ye workers of iniquity! After death and in the day of judgment. I want to encourage ALL to follow Jesus teachings to the fullest so we can be good Wheat and NOT the TARES.
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Post by Grant on Nov 23, 2019 19:41:27 GMT -5
The system is a cult simply because they don’t believe what the Bible says plainly that Jesus is God. That’s the definition of a Christian cult. [br Well that's a new way to define something. 'If they dont believe as I believe they are a cult' Hmmmm I don't agree with STR definition of a cult. The Trinity does not make a group a cult although you will find a number of cults don't believe in the Trinity. One of the marks of a Christian cult is a group who separates itself from mainline christianity and claims it is the way. They claim to have a special revelation and everyone else is wrong. Controlling leadership and a number of other traits. There are cults in all walks of life religious and non religious.
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Post by nathan on Nov 23, 2019 19:52:09 GMT -5
[br Well that's a new way to define something. 'If they dont believe as I believe they are a cult' Hmmmm I don't agree with STR definition of a cult. The Trinity does not make a group a cult although you will find a number of cults don't believe in the Trinity. One of the marks of a Christian cult is a group who separates itself from mainline christianity and claims it is the way. They claim to have a special revelation and everyone else is wrong. Controlling leadership and a number of other traits. There are cults in all walks of life religious and non religious. ** Jesus and HIS True Church and ministry has been ALWAYS stands ALONE and BY THEMSELVES and they DO NOT mixed with the rest of the CROWD.
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Post by Grant on Nov 23, 2019 19:52:14 GMT -5
Are you really a 2x2 Nathan? You have spent years trying to drive people away from meetings. You're even trying to drive chuck from them. What right do you have to attack a fellow believer. I really wonder if your reason for being on this board is to take people away from meetings. You spend more time attacking and putting down professing folk than everyone else put together. ** I am trying to help the TARES in our fellowship to see their errors, so they don't get all bundle/gathered up in the end to be burned. None of us want to hearJesus words, Depart from me, ye workers of iniquity! After death and in the day of judgment. I want to encourage ALL to follow Jesus teachings to the fullest so we can be good Wheat and NOT the TARES. I thought you were trying to drive him away. Just as well you're not a worker as there would be no one left by now. You would have condemned them all to hell and driven everyone away.
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Post by sharingtheriches on Nov 23, 2019 21:28:55 GMT -5
Nathan, if Chuck is a tare what does that say about you? Shame on you being judgmental against another man’s servant. ** I am a Wheat. The TARES and wheat mixed in God's house on earth. The 5 foolish mixed with 5 wise virgins. The TARES mixed with wheat. The goats mixed with the sheep. The Wheat can spot the Tares, the 5 foolish virgins, the goats by their manners of life, action and speech. Jesus said BY their FRUITS ye shall KNOW them. Baloney, as you like to say. If the wheat could see the tares they’d be screaming their heads off when the workers let them profess, but no, the wheat wrap their arms around them and often pay them reverence more so then other wheat in their church!
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Post by sharingtheriches on Nov 23, 2019 21:31:20 GMT -5
[br Well that's a new way to define something. 'If they dont believe as I believe they are a cult' Hmmmm I don't agree with STR definition of a cult. The Trinity does not make a group a cult although you will find a number of cults don't believe in the Trinity. One of the marks of a Christian cult is a group who separates itself from mainline christianity and claims it is the way. They claim to have a special revelation and everyone else is wrong. Controlling leadership and a number of other traits. There are cults in all walks of life religious and non religious. I just heard that one way a secret society makes themselves feel special is to say they’re the only way , the only right way, etc. This has been the downfall of the Knights Templar, the Masons and the Illuminati.
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Post by sharingtheriches on Nov 23, 2019 21:33:42 GMT -5
Are you really a 2x2 Nathan? You have spent years trying to drive people away from meetings. You're even trying to drive chuck from them. What right do you have to attack a fellow believer. I really wonder if your reason for being on this board is to take people away from meetings. You spend more time attacking and putting down professing folk than everyone else put together. ** I am trying to help the TARES in our fellowship to see their errors, so they don't get all bundle/gathered up in the end to be burned. None of us want to hearJesus words, Depart from me, ye workers of iniquity! After death and in the day of judgment. I want to encourage ALL to follow Jesus teachings to the fullest so we can be good Wheat and NOT the TARES. If they are really tares, Nathan, you can’t change them, period. They are planted there by Satan. However the ones you’re tending to call tares aren’t necessarily tares. Wheat can’t judge one another that way, it’s not in them. That’s why Satan can plant tares within the wheat.
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Post by sharingtheriches on Nov 23, 2019 21:35:24 GMT -5
Really -are you serious. This is unbelievable. You are telling someone else that they should have fellowship with the 2x2s because they dont agree with everything they do. What about YOU?? You are constantly telling us that you don't agree with their doctrine on the Trinity and they've got it all wrong but you continue to go along and have fellowship with them! ** The 2x2s believe and worship the TRINITY every Sunday morning but they don't understand that at this moment. So, to say Trinity is heresy/Pagan is false. I am trying to help the current workers and friends to see their error and hopefully change their thinking. The cuurrent workers believe in exclusive Jesus 2x2 apostolic/workers ministry and worship the Godhead- Father, Christ and Holy Spirit every Sunday. If the 2x2 lost their two basic foundation of jesus New Test teachings then I will get the heck out of dodge ASAP. They are not worshipping in “spirit and in truth” if they don’t know what they’re doing.
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Post by sharingtheriches on Nov 23, 2019 21:36:25 GMT -5
Nathan, if Chuck is a tare what does that say about you? Shame on you being judgmental against another man’s servant. Mat_5:16 Let your light so shine before men, that they may see your good works, and glorify your Father which is in heaven. Mat_7:20 Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them. if you don't do good works then people are gonna notice and say something.... Well, Chuck is showing good fruit because he’s backed up his beliefs with bible scripture!
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Post by sharingtheriches on Nov 23, 2019 21:38:12 GMT -5
The system is a cult simply because they don’t believe what the Bible says plainly that Jesus is God. That’s the definition of a Christian cult. [br Well that's a new way to define something. 'If they dont believe as I believe they are a cult' Hmmmm That wasn’t my quote! I can see the reasoning. Because it is biblical. For example Revelations 1:6
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Post by nathan on Nov 23, 2019 21:47:33 GMT -5
** I am trying to help the TARES in our fellowship to see their errors, so they don't get all bundle/gathered up in the end to be burned. None of us want to hearJesus words, Depart from me, ye workers of iniquity! After death and in the day of judgment. I want to encourage ALL to follow Jesus teachings to the fullest so we can be good Wheat and NOT the TARES. If they are really tares, Nathan, you can’t change them, period. They are planted there by Satan. However the ones you’re tending to call tares aren’t necessarily tares. Wheat can’t judge one another that way, it’s not in them. That’s why Satan can plant tares within the wheat. ** I disagree with TARES can change to wheat... Look at the life of Saul/tare doing Satan's work in destroying God's people but Jesus/God had mercy on him and turned him to a good wheat. I have seen and Witnessed Satan turned Wheat into TARES. This battle of switching side as been going on for billions of years between God Vs. Satan … wheat Vs. the TARES going to battles for centuries. Satan turned good angels to Fallen angels to fight against God. Satan has turned the TARES to fight against God's people for centuries.
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Post by nathan on Nov 23, 2019 21:51:31 GMT -5
Mat_5:16 Let your light so shine before men, that they may see your good works, and glorify your Father which is in heaven. Mat_7:20 Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them. if you don't do good works then people are gonna notice and say something.... Well, Chuck is showing good fruit because he’s backed up his beliefs with bible scripture! ** Chuckie has shown us ONE side or his verses of OSAS. Mountain, Wally, myself and others showed him the other SIDE or scriptures against OSAS he doesn't like it and keep on REPEATING OSAS verses.
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Post by Roselyn T on Nov 23, 2019 22:05:16 GMT -5
Nathan, if Chuck is a tare what does that say about you? Shame on you being judgmental against another man’s servant. ** I am a Wheat. The TARES and wheat mixed in God's house on earth. The 5 foolish mixed with 5 wise virgins. The TARES mixed with wheat. The goats mixed with the sheep. The Wheat can spot the Tares, the 5 foolish virgins, the goats by their manners of life, action and speech. Jesus said BY their FRUITS ye shall KNOW them. Wow ...how self righteous are you nathan !! Or maybe I should say how "full of yourself" you are ! Goodness according to you even the Workers don't study like you do or have the revelations you do !!
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Post by Deleted on Nov 23, 2019 22:09:36 GMT -5
Mat_5:16 Let your light so shine before men, that they may see your good works, and glorify your Father which is in heaven. Mat_7:20 Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them. if you don't do good works then people are gonna notice and say something.... Well, Chuck is showing good fruit because he’s backed up his beliefs with bible scripture! misusing bible verses is never a sign of good fruit...
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