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Post by Dan on Nov 4, 2024 13:21:33 GMT -5
Willful sin is not having a conscious about it, not repenting or feeling guilty for indulging in sin. Its doing whatever you please without restriction, surrendering to self-will while ignoring all spiritual guidance.
I believe your spiritually saved when you endorse and uphold John 3:16.. Of course that includes trying to be obedient to what you profess to believe.
Forgiveness is different from atonement, God will forgive sin, but only Jesus blotted it out by paying the price/penalty for it.
Jesus said, "No one comes to the Father except through Me" (John 14:6). Prior to that, only the High Priest could offer up prayers for atonement, but then "The veil in the temple was rent in twain" (Matthew 27:51). We were all purified when Jesus died, the veil separating us from the Holy of Hollies was opened when Jesus became our High Priest. We were only made worthy because we were sanctified and washed clean of sin in the Lambs blood. The law was satisfied and now there's "One Mediator between God and men" (1 Timothy 2:5).
"Which hope we have as an anchor of the soul, both sure and stedfast, and which entereth into that within the veil; Whither the forerunner is for us entered, even Jesus, made an high priest for ever after the order of Melchisedec" (Hebrews 6:19-20).
So you are wilfully sinning when you have no conscience, but we were all purified when Jesus died? That makes no sense. You can be purified by the death of Jesus and still be wilfully sinning even if you don't have a conscience? That's the total opposite of true salvation, once we are being saved we should have a very strong conscience holding us back from wilfully sinning. If we're made pure by Jesus being murdered, then how can we wilfully sin, as Jesus has made us pure by dying? And what what are the consequences of continually wilfully sinning? Nothing? Seeing as you're made pure by the death of Jesus? It all makes no sense. Wilful sinning is when you have a conscience, and you know it's wrong especially before God and you still do it anyway. Once we truly know and belong to God we should be finding near impossible to wilfully sin as our conscience should be so strong. You also say that we are spiritually saved once we endorse and uphold John 3:16, but in other posts you say we must believe in the death of Jesus at Calvary to be saved? So which one is it? Also, coming to the father through Christ Jesus isn't by Jesus being murdered on the cross, it's by the word of God that Jesus preached, when we heard and obeyed and then received the spirit who helps cleanse our hearts and helps us to overcome sin. God was in Christ, reconciling the world unto himself (in his lifetime) ..... No death needed, we are saved by his life. 2 Corinthians 5:19 To wit, that God was in Christ, reconciling the world unto himself, not imputing their trespasses unto them; and hath committed unto us the word of reconciliation. Hebrews 2:3 How shall we escape, if we neglect so great salvation; which at the first began to be SPOKEN BY THE LORD, and was confirmed unto us by them that heard him Titus 3:4 But after that the kindness and love of God our Saviour toward man appeared, 3:5 Not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to his mercy he saved us, by the washing of regeneration, and renewing of the Holy Ghost; 3:6 Which he shed on us abundantly through Jesus Christ our Saviour; 1 Timothy 4:16 Take heed unto thyself, and unto the doctrine; continue in them: for in doing this thou shalt both save thyself, and them that hear thee. 2 Thessalonians 2:13 But we are bound to give thanks alway to God for you, brethren beloved of the Lord, because God hath from the beginning chosen you to salvation through sanctification of the Spirit and belief of the truth:
John 3:16 includes believing in the entire life of Christ, including the part you dismiss, which is his last hours on the cross and the purpose for it.
To me, Willful Sin is when a person knows and believes the truth, but makes no attempt to follow the example and teachings of Christ. God is not mocked, there's no remission of sin for unrepentant hypocrites.
We all screw-up, we all fall to temptation, we've all willfully done things that we knew were wrong, but that's not a death knell towards salvation. i.e; Peter denied even knowing Jesus, a willful lie (sin), but it didn't cost him eternity.
If you had a drinking problem and continually surrendered to temptation, there is forgiveness as long as your trying to resist the urge to get loaded (70x7).
Someone else not sinning does not justify a sinner. Jesus didn't sin, but his life isn't what rids us of sin, no matter how devout of a follower you are.
When a person believes, that belief includes Jesus shedding his blood for the remission of sin... Because if he didn't, and if that ain't so, then we will each be judged and condemned for our sins. "If we say we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us" (1 John 1:8). We are all guilty, you've accepted Christ as a teacher, prophet, and example, but reject him as our divine Savior. Jesus did for us what we could not do for ourselves, you simply can't disregard or ignore the significance of Calvary and think your capable of attaining salvation yourself. Your accountable for your sins until they're answered for, there's no getting around that.
We will continue to differ, you've shown many verses that inspire good behavior and faith leading to salvation, but that faith is in Christ and is not solely dependent on your ability to be a good girl 
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Post by nathan2 on Nov 4, 2024 13:34:42 GMT -5
So you are wilfully sinning when you have no conscience, but we were all purified when Jesus died? That makes no sense. You can be purified by the death of Jesus and still be wilfully sinning even if you don't have a conscience? That's the total opposite of true salvation, once we are being saved we should have a very strong conscience holding us back from wilfully sinning. If we're made pure by Jesus being murdered, then how can we wilfully sin, as Jesus has made us pure by dying? And what what are the consequences of continually wilfully sinning? Nothing? Seeing as you're made pure by the death of Jesus? It all makes no sense. Wilful sinning is when you have a conscience, and you know it's wrong especially before God and you still do it anyway. Once we truly know and belong to God we should be finding near impossible to wilfully sin as our conscience should be so strong. You also say that we are spiritually saved once we endorse and uphold John 3:16, but in other posts you say we must believe in the death of Jesus at Calvary to be saved? So which one is it? Also, coming to the father through Christ Jesus isn't by Jesus being murdered on the cross, it's by the word of God that Jesus preached, when we heard and obeyed and then received the spirit who helps cleanse our hearts and helps us to overcome sin. God was in Christ, reconciling the world unto himself (in his lifetime) ..... No death needed, we are saved by his life. 2 Corinthians 5:19 To wit, that God was in Christ, reconciling the world unto himself, not imputing their trespasses unto them; and hath committed unto us the word of reconciliation. Hebrews 2:3 How shall we escape, if we neglect so great salvation; which at the first began to be SPOKEN BY THE LORD, and was confirmed unto us by them that heard him Titus 3:4 But after that the kindness and love of God our Saviour toward man appeared, 3:5 Not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to his mercy he saved us, by the washing of regeneration, and renewing of the Holy Ghost; 3:6 Which he shed on us abundantly through Jesus Christ our Saviour; 1 Timothy 4:16 Take heed unto thyself, and unto the doctrine; continue in them: for in doing this thou shalt both save thyself, and them that hear thee. 2 Thessalonians 2:13 But we are bound to give thanks alway to God for you, brethren beloved of the Lord, because God hath from the beginning chosen you to salvation through sanctification of the Spirit and belief of the truth:
John 3:16 includes believing in the entire life of Christ, including the part you dismiss, which is his last hours on the cross and the purpose for it.
To me, Willful Sin is when a person knows and believes the truth, but makes no attempt to follow the example and teachings of Christ. God is not mocked, there's no remission of sin for unrepentant hypocrites.
We all screw-up, we all fall to temptation, we've all willfully done things that we knew were wrong, but that's not a death knell towards salvation. i.e; Peter denied even knowing Jesus, a willful lie (sin), but it didn't cost him eternity.
If you had a drinking problem and continually surrendered to temptation, there is forgiveness as long as your trying to resist the urge to get loaded (70x7).
Someone else not sinning does not justify a sinner. Jesus didn't sin, but his life isn't what rids us of sin, no matter how devout of a follower you are.
When a person believes, that belief includes Jesus shedding his blood for the remission of sin... Because if he didn't, and if that ain't so, then we will each be judged and condemned for our sins.
"If we say we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us" (1 John 1:8). We are all guilty, you've accepted Christ as a teacher, prophet, and example, but reject him as our divine Savior. Jesus did for us what we could not do for ourselves, you simply can't disregard or ignore the significance of Calvary and think your capable of attaining salvation yourself. Your accountable for your sins until they're answered for, there's no getting around that.
We will continue to differ, you've shown many verses that inspire good behavior and faith leading to salvation, but that faith is in Christ and is not solely dependent on your ability to be a good girl
Dan, by reading many of her Bible verses, I say Maryh, picked ONLY verses that fit her own interpretation of her belief. She sees and understands ONLY half of the Truth NOT the Whole Truth of Jesus Christ FULL gospel message how to be SAVED. Maryh, is going to stick with her theory to the end no matter what, she will NEVER going to change for belief! We have witnessed this for so many years on here, many people have tried to help her but no avail. Just my opinion of course. Thanks, you and others for sharing the whole truth on this important subject! I try will chime in once in awhile when I get a new revelation. Keep up the good work in sharing the good news! 👍🙌 |
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Post by help on Nov 4, 2024 15:19:47 GMT -5
All major religious traditions carry basically the same message, that is love, compassion and forgiveness the important thing is they should be part of our daily lives.
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Post by Annan on Nov 4, 2024 15:52:30 GMT -5
Dan, by reading many of her Bible verses, I say Maryh, picked ONLY verses that fit her own interpretation of her belief. She sees and understands ONLY half of the Truth NOT the Whole Truth of Jesus Christ FULL gospel message how to be SAVED. Maryh, is going to stick with her theory to the end no matter what, she will NEVER going to change for belief! We have witnessed this for so many years on here, many people have tried to help her but no avail. Just my opinion of course. Thanks, you and others for sharing the whole truth on this important subject! I try will chime in once in awhile when I get a new revelation. Keep up the good work in sharing the good news! 👍🙌 I say Natie picks ONLY the most wacko crap he can find to spew all over the internet and this forum, his Frank Strangefellow gospel for one. Natie does NOT know the truth about about anything. His belief is one of vengeance and bloodshed. He will stick to his theories to the end, no matter what. He is NEVER going to change his belief that he has preached for many long years that he has brainwashed himself. We have all tried to help but to no avail. We have witnessed this for so many years on here. Thanks to all for trying to enlighten Naite. Natie needs out pity. He is a lowly gas sniffer and needs to feel important, so he declares himself appointed by his god to spread his falsehoods and lies. I will keep chiming in to make the new readers aware of Natie's delusions. Keep up the good work in sharing the truth about Natie. |
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Post by BobWilliston on Nov 4, 2024 18:57:07 GMT -5
In other words, she's not as good as you. Right? 🙄 I Don't want to waste my time and energy with you.🥱 Baloney. You will respond to anything I say. You know it. |
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Post by BobWilliston on Nov 4, 2024 19:07:04 GMT -5
Dan, by reading many of her Bible verses, I say Maryh, picked ONLY verses that fit her own interpretation of her belief. Of course. That's what you and Dan do too. You're going to have to find some scripture for her to read about Valiant Thor, or she'll NEVER catch up with you. But then, Dan hasn't caught up with you either, in that respect. He must be as slow as her to catch onto your wisdom. That's a virtuous quality, don't you think. We've noticed that you are perfectly like her in that respect. Please stick to NEW revelations only. We're already working on the others you've harped on for 20 years, or more. |
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Post by help on Nov 4, 2024 19:22:10 GMT -5
Watch out Bob, we will probably get copious loads of it.
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Post by BobWilliston on Nov 4, 2024 19:33:50 GMT -5
Watch out Bob, we will probably get copious loads of it. I'm hoping he will help me with my next non-fiction book.  |
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Post by nathan2 on Nov 4, 2024 20:01:09 GMT -5
🙄 I Don't want to waste my time and energy with you.🥱 Baloney. You will respond to anything I say. You know it. 🤭🥱 from now on will be. 🙄😱 |
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Post by BobWilliston on Nov 4, 2024 20:08:12 GMT -5
Baloney. You will respond to anything I say. You know it. 🤭🥱 from now on will be. 🙄😱 See. I knew you would respond. |
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Post by nathan2 on Nov 4, 2024 22:13:36 GMT -5
🤭🥱 from now on will be. 🙄😱 See. I knew you would respond. 🤣😴🤮 |
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Post by maryhig on Nov 5, 2024 7:15:54 GMT -5
So you are wilfully sinning when you have no conscience, but we were all purified when Jesus died? That makes no sense. You can be purified by the death of Jesus and still be wilfully sinning even if you don't have a conscience? That's the total opposite of true salvation, once we are being saved we should have a very strong conscience holding us back from wilfully sinning. If we're made pure by Jesus being murdered, then how can we wilfully sin, as Jesus has made us pure by dying? And what what are the consequences of continually wilfully sinning? Nothing? Seeing as you're made pure by the death of Jesus? It all makes no sense. Wilful sinning is when you have a conscience, and you know it's wrong especially before God and you still do it anyway. Once we truly know and belong to God we should be finding near impossible to wilfully sin as our conscience should be so strong. You also say that we are spiritually saved once we endorse and uphold John 3:16, but in other posts you say we must believe in the death of Jesus at Calvary to be saved? So which one is it? Also, coming to the father through Christ Jesus isn't by Jesus being murdered on the cross, it's by the word of God that Jesus preached, when we heard and obeyed and then received the spirit who helps cleanse our hearts and helps us to overcome sin. God was in Christ, reconciling the world unto himself (in his lifetime) ..... No death needed, we are saved by his life. 2 Corinthians 5:19 To wit, that God was in Christ, reconciling the world unto himself, not imputing their trespasses unto them; and hath committed unto us the word of reconciliation. Hebrews 2:3 How shall we escape, if we neglect so great salvation; which at the first began to be SPOKEN BY THE LORD, and was confirmed unto us by them that heard him Titus 3:4 But after that the kindness and love of God our Saviour toward man appeared, 3:5 Not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to his mercy he saved us, by the washing of regeneration, and renewing of the Holy Ghost; 3:6 Which he shed on us abundantly through Jesus Christ our Saviour; 1 Timothy 4:16 Take heed unto thyself, and unto the doctrine; continue in them: for in doing this thou shalt both save thyself, and them that hear thee. 2 Thessalonians 2:13 But we are bound to give thanks alway to God for you, brethren beloved of the Lord, because God hath from the beginning chosen you to salvation through sanctification of the Spirit and belief of the truth:
John 3:16 includes believing in the entire life of Christ, including the part you dismiss, which is his last hours on the cross and the purpose for it.
To me, Willful Sin is when a person knows and believes the truth, but makes no attempt to follow the example and teachings of Christ. God is not mocked, there's no remission of sin for unrepentant hypocrites.
We all screw-up, we all fall to temptation, we've all willfully done things that we knew were wrong, but that's not a death knell towards salvation. i.e; Peter denied even knowing Jesus, a willful lie (sin), but it didn't cost him eternity.
If you had a drinking problem and continually surrendered to temptation, there is forgiveness as long as your trying to resist the urge to get loaded (70x7).
Someone else not sinning does not justify a sinner. Jesus didn't sin, but his life isn't what rids us of sin, no matter how devout of a follower you are.
When a person believes, that belief includes Jesus shedding his blood for the remission of sin... Because if he didn't, and if that ain't so, then we will each be judged and condemned for our sins. "If we say we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us" (1 John 1:8). We are all guilty, you've accepted Christ as a teacher, prophet, and example, but reject him as our divine Savior. Jesus did for us what we could not do for ourselves, you simply can't disregard or ignore the significance of Calvary and think your capable of attaining salvation yourself. Your accountable for your sins until they're answered for, there's no getting around that.
We will continue to differ, you've shown many verses that inspire good behavior and faith leading to salvation, but that faith is in Christ and is not solely dependent on your ability to be a good girl
Do you read what I say? What do you mean my ability to be a good girl? How condescending is that! I've already said lots of times to you that I can't do it myself and that I need God and Christ to help me. If I didn't have God,I couldn't do it. And I do believe that Jesus is my saviour, I've never said he isn't, but he saved me through his life not his death. And yes God is forgiving, but if we keep on wilfully sin we will suffer for that. As I said, I know because it's happened to me. And as you said God won't be mocked, which is right, God won't put up with us if we keep on wilfully sinning regardless of what you say. As for Peter, he remembered what Jesus said after the cock crowed, he didn't purposely go out to do what he did. And then when he realised he repented and didn't do it again. That's the thing, when we realise we've sinned before God, we should repent and not do it again, not keep on doing it, as Jesus said to those he healed, go sin no more. And I'm not talking about drinking, that wrecks the body and yes we are to try and stop if it has a hold on us. But I'm talking about the sins of the heart, for instance, someone could have a drink problem, but have the kindest heart and help everyone, and someone may not have a problem with drink but have the hardest heart. Who's right there? It's the heart that counts and only God can judge that. Also if a person knows and believes the truth, then they will have a conscience. You said in another post that wilful sinning is when you don't have a conscience and do it. I don't agree, wilful sinning is when you do have a conscience and carry on doing it. |
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Post by nathan2 on Nov 5, 2024 11:21:07 GMT -5
You are one confusing lady’s on this topic! You say this and that but you don’t really see the whole picture of thing. You go round and round back to your own interpretation and the half-truth verses you selected in the Bible.
When the readers see the verses Dan, myself and many others selected for you then they see the picture clearly. Your verses are putting the Cart/Christ death on Calvary Cross NOT important at all, you have NOTHING or NO Salvation at all.
Hebrews 9 Without shedding of Jesus blood or death on Calvary Cross there is no forgiveness of our sins.
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Post by Annan on Nov 5, 2024 12:54:22 GMT -5
You are one confusing lady’s on this topic! You say this and that but you don’t really see the whole picture of thing. You go round and round back to your own interpretation and the half-truth verses you selected in the Bible. When the readers see the verses Dan, myself and many others selected for you then they see the picture clearly. Your verses are putting the Cart/Christ death on Calvary Cross NOT important at all, you have NOTHING or NO Salvation at all. Hebrews 9 Without shedding of Jesus blood or death on Calvary Cross there is no forgiveness of our sins. Stop being such a dunce, Natie. Show us where JESUS SAID his blood must be shed for a person to be saved. You can't. Stop making up your own interpretation. |
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Post by maryhig on Nov 5, 2024 13:27:57 GMT -5
You are one confusing lady’s on this topic! You say this and that but you don’t really see the whole picture of thing. You go round and round back to your own interpretation and the half-truth verses you selected in the Bible. When the readers see the verses Dan, myself and many others selected for you then they see the picture clearly. Your verses are putting the Cart/Christ death on Calvary Cross NOT important at all, you have NOTHING or NO Salvation at all. Hebrews 9 Without shedding of Jesus blood or death on Calvary Cross there is no forgiveness of our sins. Are you kidding me? You're the most confusing person on here with the most bizarre beliefs that I've ever seen! |
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Post by Dan on Nov 5, 2024 13:35:09 GMT -5
Do you read what I say? What do you mean my ability to be a good girl? How condescending is that! I've already said lots of times to you that I can't do it myself and that I need God and Christ to help me. If I didn't have God,I couldn't do it. And I do believe that Jesus is my saviour, I've never said he isn't, but he saved me through his life not his death. And yes God is forgiving, but if we keep on wilfully sin we will suffer for that. As I said, I know because it's happened to me. And as you said God won't be mocked, which is right, God won't put up with us if we keep on wilfully sinning regardless of what you say. As for Peter, he remembered what Jesus said after the cock crowed, he didn't purposely go out to do what he did. And then when he realised he repented and didn't do it again. That's the thing, when we realise we've sinned before God, we should repent and not do it again, not keep on doing it, as Jesus said to those he healed, go sin no more. And I'm not talking about drinking, that wrecks the body and yes we are to try and stop if it has a hold on us. But I'm talking about the sins of the heart, for instance, someone could have a drink problem, but have the kindest heart and help everyone, and someone may not have a problem with drink but have the hardest heart. Who's right there? It's the heart that counts and only God can judge that. Also if a person knows and believes the truth, then they will have a conscience. You said in another post that wilful sinning is when you don't have a conscience and do it. I don't agree, wilful sinning is when you do have a conscience and carry on doing it.
I understand that you can't do it yourself, but one of my previous points was that even with God's help, you still can't do it. Try as we may, we will still trip-up and sin on a regular basis.
"We are all as an unclean thing, and all our righteousnesses are as filthy rags; and we all do fade as a leaf; and our iniquities, like the wind, have taken us away" (Isaiah 64:6). No matter the effort, we can never obtain perfection, that's why we are reliant on he who was perfect before God. We won't ever be sin free, that's why Jesus had to answer for sin.
Peter knew Christ but denied knowing him, that's a willful sin. He was afraid and had a weak moment, but sinned nonetheless. So apparently God does put up with that type of sin because Peters conscience convicted him and he repented.
In regards to having a conscience, I did mean that a person who knows the Truth, but disregards that knowledge, is a person who willfully violates his conscience. They know but don't care, and thereby willfully sin without regret or remorse.
And yes, even a drunken fool can have a heart, just as a sober person can be as cold as ice. The parable of the Good Samaritan illustrated the difference between a pious person wearing their religion on their sleeve compared to a regular John who genuinely displayed some compassion.
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Post by maryhig on Nov 5, 2024 13:37:59 GMT -5
Do you read what I say? What do you mean my ability to be a good girl? How condescending is that! I've already said lots of times to you that I can't do it myself and that I need God and Christ to help me. If I didn't have God,I couldn't do it. And I do believe that Jesus is my saviour, I've never said he isn't, but he saved me through his life not his death. And yes God is forgiving, but if we keep on wilfully sin we will suffer for that. As I said, I know because it's happened to me. And as you said God won't be mocked, which is right, God won't put up with us if we keep on wilfully sinning regardless of what you say. As for Peter, he remembered what Jesus said after the cock crowed, he didn't purposely go out to do what he did. And then when he realised he repented and didn't do it again. That's the thing, when we realise we've sinned before God, we should repent and not do it again, not keep on doing it, as Jesus said to those he healed, go sin no more. And I'm not talking about drinking, that wrecks the body and yes we are to try and stop if it has a hold on us. But I'm talking about the sins of the heart, for instance, someone could have a drink problem, but have the kindest heart and help everyone, and someone may not have a problem with drink but have the hardest heart. Who's right there? It's the heart that counts and only God can judge that. Also if a person knows and believes the truth, then they will have a conscience. You said in another post that wilful sinning is when you don't have a conscience and do it. I don't agree, wilful sinning is when you do have a conscience and carry on doing it.
I understand that you can't do it yourself, but one of my previous points was that even with God's help, you still can't do it. Try as we may, we will still trip-up and sin on a regular basis.
"We are all as an unclean thing, and all our righteousnesses are as filthy rags; and we all do fade as a leaf; and our iniquities, like the wind, have taken us away" (Isaiah 64:6). No matter the effort, we can never obtain perfection, that's why we are reliant on he who was perfect before God. We won't ever be sin free, that's why Jesus had to answer for sin.
Peter knew Christ but denied knowing him, that's a willful sin. He was afraid and had a weak moment, but sinned nonetheless. So apparently God does put up with that type of sin because Peters conscience convicted him and he repented.
In regards to having a conscience, I did mean that a person who knows the Truth, but disregards that knowledge, is a person who willfully violates his conscience. They know but don't care, and thereby willfully sin without regret or remorse.
And yes, even a drunken fool can have a heart, just as a sober person can be as cold as ice. The parable of the Good Samaritan illustrated the difference between a pious person wearing their religion on their sleeve compared to a regular John who genuinely displayed some compassion.
Sorry I only got to "with God's help we still can't do it" What? Where's your faith? It says in the Bible that with God all things are possible. Can I ask you something, do you believe you are eternally saved now? I'm just having my tea, I'll read the rest of your post later. Thanks |
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Post by nathan2 on Nov 5, 2024 14:53:24 GMT -5
You are one confusing lady’s on this topic! You say this and that but you don’t really see the whole picture of thing. You go round and round back to your own interpretation and the half-truth verses you selected in the Bible. When the readers see the verses Dan, myself and many others selected for you then they see the picture clearly. Your verses are putting the Cart/Christ death on Calvary Cross NOT important at all, you have NOTHING or NO Salvation at all. Hebrews 9 Without shedding of Jesus blood or death on Calvary Cross there is no forgiveness of our sins. Are you kidding me? You're the most confusing person on here with the most bizarre beliefs that I've ever seen! Confusing to unbelievers and those who are doubting my documented papers and with the scriptures to back it up what I believe and teach. Your unbelief is NOT my fault or problems but you and those like you, who willfully rejected it. Yesterday, I stopped at Baskin and Robbin Ice scream store and talked to an employee for over 1 hour about God’s plans for mankind, Christ’s 21st gospel message to mankind, Valiant Thor Mission to earth since 1930 to now to announcing the 2nd coming of Jesus and so on! I asked which day do you work? So, I gave him my website! He said I am the owner. He listened very careful what I shared and he was so shaken at the message that I shared, he wanted to hear more. A customer called to order an ice cream cake, he said they could wait because I want to hear more of what you have to say, he is a believer and he KNOWS his Bible. He told me he will go to my website and check things out and I told him I will come back and keep in touch, he said yes! Somehow, the Holy Spirit made me to STOP there to get a large ice cream shake, but it was a raining day, cool weather. I told the owner of the store it wasn’t by accident that I stopped by and there were hardly any customer come in so, we could converse over an 1 and he said Thanks, for telling about these historical events, which I have NEVER heard or read of. I said God draws me to you, because there is something special about you that He wants me to share His forbidden knowledge gospel mesage with. I have shared with over 200,000s of people on the Internet and 1000s with one on one and face to face on these messages for over 30 years after I left the work in 1993. I have reached perhaps millions! people through my website on the Internet than when I was in the work as a 2x2 preacher from 1986-93. I probably made hardly any outsiders, mostly preaching to the friends. I have talked to 1000s of my customers at work one on one about God than when I was in the work, maybe 12 people. |
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Post by guest8 on Nov 5, 2024 17:19:33 GMT -5
Sounds like a melting moment.
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Post by Annan on Nov 5, 2024 17:35:55 GMT -5
I have shared with over 200,000s of people on the Internet and 1000s with one on one and face to face on these messages for over 30 years after I left the work in 1993. I have reached perhaps millions! people through my website on the Internet than when I was in the work as a 2x2 preacher from 1986-93. I probably made hardly any outsiders, mostly preaching to the friends. I have talked to 1000s of my customers at work one on one about God than when I was in the work, maybe 12 people. You didn't leave the work, Natie, you were driven out. You ran away because you couldn't hack it. You failed to persevere. You are a failure. |
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Post by tom1955 on Nov 5, 2024 17:41:34 GMT -5
So, Nathan are you a current workers and friends member?
And what is your website?
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Post by nathan2 on Nov 5, 2024 18:26:55 GMT -5
So, Nathan are you a current workers and friends member? And what is your website? Yes, I am a current 2x2 friend and ex-worker from 1984-93. Sorry, I can’t give you my website, my old website was sabotaged and destroyed by my enemies from TMB members. However, I have given the readers on TMB a foretaste of my website on the ex-workers board part I and II. Take a look if you have any questions, I am here to answer any of your questions, Tom. Tom, you can post your question on Chuck multi Universe Board because that board is very much dead, I can answer any questions that you have. Thanks! |
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Post by nathan2 on Nov 5, 2024 18:34:26 GMT -5
I have shared with over 200,000s of people on the Internet and 1000s with one on one and face to face on these messages for over 30 years after I left the work in 1993. I have reached perhaps millions! people through my website on the Internet than when I was in the work as a 2x2 preacher from 1986-93. I probably made hardly any outsiders, mostly preaching to the friends. I have talked to 1000s of my customers at work one on one about God than when I was in the work, maybe 12 people. You didn't leave the work, Natie, you were driven out. You ran away because you couldn't hack it. You failed to persevere. You are a failure. How can I be a failure worker? When I was a worker, I reached or contact less than 12 strangers from 1986-93. Now, I have reached over millions the last 30 years! As an Internet worker!🤗 That is a failure or success according to you? It seems your math is a little off there wouldn’t you say? 🤔 |
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Post by BobWilliston on Nov 5, 2024 20:33:24 GMT -5
See. I knew you would respond. 🤣😴🤮 Can't help but respond, can you? |
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Post by BobWilliston on Nov 5, 2024 20:37:02 GMT -5
Yet no one has professed because of you. Not even your wife and son. Not a good batting average, Natie. You are a laughing stock. You didn't leave the work, Natie, you were driven out. You ran away because you couldn't hack it. You failed to persevere. You are a failure. How can I be a failure worker? When I was a worker, I reached or contact less than 12 strangers from 1986-93. Now, I have reached over millions the last 30 years! As an Internet worker!🤗 That is a failure or success according to you? It seems your math is a little off there wouldn’t you say? 🤔 Have you tried using a bullhorn through the streets of Portland? |
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Post by nathan2 on Nov 5, 2024 20:41:23 GMT -5
How can I be a failure worker? When I was a worker, I reached or contact less than 12 strangers from 1986-93. Now, I have reached over millions the last 30 years! As an Internet worker!🤗 That is a failure or success according to you? It seems your math is a little off there wouldn’t you say? 🤔 Have you tries using a bullhorn through the streets of Portland? Jesus said be Wise as serpent/blend in with the surrounding environment and be harmless as a dove/don’t stir up/poke at the hornets 🐝 nests….. Working quietly under the radar don’t bring too much attention to yourself. 👍 |
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Post by Annan on Nov 6, 2024 1:32:23 GMT -5
Yet no one has professed because of you. Not even your wife and son. Not a good batting average, Natie. You are a laughing stock. You didn't leave the work, Natie, you were driven out. You ran away because you couldn't hack it. You failed to persevere. You are a failure. How can I be a failure worker? When I was a worker, I reached or contact less than 12 strangers from 1986-93. Now, I have reached over millions the last 30 years! As an Internet worker!🤗 That is a failure or success according to you? It seems your math is a little off there wouldn’t you say? 🤔 So I ask again... How many professed because of you? Zero. You are a self=professed internet worker. You are not sanctioned by the workers. They leave you alone because they are rid of you as a worker and they worry about your mental state. They drove you out by making your life miserable forcing you to run away and marry an unbeliever. Who cares how many people heard your BS. Still no professing folk because of you. You are a loser and deserve to be pitied. |
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Post by Annan on Nov 6, 2024 2:28:17 GMT -5
Have you tries using a bullhorn through the streets of Portland? Jesus said be Wise as serpent/blend in with the surrounding environment and be harmless as a dove/don’t stir up/poke at the hornets 🐝 nests….. Working quietly under the radar don’t bring too much attention to yourself. 👍 What a load of crap! You scream at the top of your lungs around here. Just another example of how unchrist-like you are. FRAUD! |
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