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Post by Deleted on Mar 19, 2019 20:41:31 GMT -5
And that is a negative post at this time. (Wallys) There are words such as ‘progress’, new insights’ ‘change’ ‘ growth’ , perseverance, commitment, HOPE. Nothing in life would ever change for the better with that attitude. Thanks Redback for your caring, supportive and empathetic posts. (I think the world needs more men like you and yes they are there)
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Post by Deleted on Mar 19, 2019 20:47:25 GMT -5
US website labels NZ a 's***hole country', refuses to help police in Christchurch terror attack investigation. i don't think NZ is a sh!thole country maybe arrogant at times but if america would be involved NZ'rs and aussies would just say we were "meddling" in an internal affair....
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Post by Deleted on Mar 19, 2019 20:49:48 GMT -5
That is because he was a man, they are not to be trusted. Woman are more genuine, they mean what they say. well thats sort of a bigot attitude towards men...good luck with that
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Post by Deleted on Mar 19, 2019 20:52:34 GMT -5
Thanks Olea, but no I am just as stupid as the rest of them. It has taken me 80 years to come to that conclusion, a very slow learner. I should have taken more notice of my Wife 60 years ago.
Woman naturally have that Motherly instinct, and a Man will never have that. Woman know the value of life, therefore do not support the killing of other human beings. Woman have always grieved as their Husbands and Sons went off to War. Men have just not responded to that concern.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 19, 2019 20:55:34 GMT -5
And that is a negative post at this time. (Wallys) There are words such as ‘progress’, new insights’ ‘change’ ‘ growth’ , perseverance, commitment, HOPE. Nothing in life would ever change for the better with that attitude. Thanks Redback. The world needs more men like you. well the subject matter is a TAD negative 49 dead and 40+ wounded is not a positive thing last i knew....
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Post by Deleted on Mar 19, 2019 20:56:58 GMT -5
US website labels NZ a 's***hole country', refuses to help police in Christchurch terror attack investigation. i don't think NZ is a sh!thole country maybe arrogant at times but if america would be involved NZ'rs and aussies would just say we were "meddling" in an internal affair.... You got that one almost right Wally. Just leave out the arrogant bit.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 19, 2019 21:04:39 GMT -5
Olea I have never found a 2x2 that thinks that they should kill people. I know it is the "Changing Way" but we surely hope that their attitude of sanctity of life hasn't changed.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 19, 2019 21:07:54 GMT -5
Thanks Olea, but no I am just as stupid as the rest of them. It has taken me 80 years to come to that conclusion, a very slow learner. I should have taken more notice of my Wife 60 years ago. Lol ...And that is why we have words such as.... progress, new insights, changes growth, perserverance, commitment, HOPE.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 19, 2019 21:13:58 GMT -5
Olea I have never found a 2x2 that thinks that they should kill people. I know it is the "Changing Way" but we surely hope that their attitude of sanctity of life hasn't changed. Yes on this side of the world Redback. It is good to see Speak standing up to supposedly a same church member. I sure he represents the church folk here in N.Z. But it is interesting that William Irvine was against being a conscientious objector and if my memory serves me correct made his displeasure known re the New Zealanders during WW1.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 19, 2019 21:14:41 GMT -5
You are right Olea and your Prime Minister is leading the way. Lets hope that all the dumb men listen.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 19, 2019 21:21:36 GMT -5
We were always told to be conscientious objectors even if it meant going to jail. I remember that almost happened to Magpie's Brother because he made a stand. And I suppose we must give the 2x2's some credit, they did work out that WI was a nut case, and tossed him out.
We do feel for Speak and the grief he has being so close to where it happened. We know his heart is in the right place, and we commend him for that.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 19, 2019 22:42:58 GMT -5
You are right Olea and your Prime Minister is leading the way. Lets hope that all the dumb men listen. for a male you sure have a heavy dose of misandry....
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Post by Deleted on Mar 19, 2019 22:43:43 GMT -5
Why is the far right dominated by men? Cas Mudde
It is time that we take masculinity more seriously in our discussions of the far right, and rightwing politics. We are seeing “the largest gender gap on record” in recent polls because of decreasing support for Donald Trump among (higher educated) white women. Perhaps many men don’t support Trump despite his attacks on prominent women, but because of it.
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Post by speak on Mar 19, 2019 22:52:49 GMT -5
Olea I have never found a 2x2 that thinks that they should kill people. I know it is the "Changing Way" but we surely hope that their attitude of sanctity of life hasn't changed. As Christ valued life I value life and no body has the right to take an others life.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 19, 2019 22:59:21 GMT -5
I do not dislike men, I try not to dislike anybody. There have really only been two Woman in my life, my Mother and my Wife. I had a Father and three Brothers, and in my work life it was a men only environment. So yes may be I got too much of them, that may have influenced what I now believe.
I do believe if there was more acceptance of Woman in Politics, Business World, Church Management, etc, we would get a more tempered, compassionate outcome. It is time for a change, men have had it their own way for far too long. And good Men should stand up, and support the change.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 19, 2019 22:59:35 GMT -5
Why is the far right dominated by men? Cas Mudde It is time that we take masculinity more seriously in our discussions of the far right, and rightwing politics. We are seeing “the largest gender gap on record” in recent polls because of decreasing support for Donald Trump among (higher educated) white women. Perhaps many men don’t support Trump despite his attacks on prominent women, but because of it. my mother just said today that women should get back to the kitchen she'll be 81 in a month and a half, i say if they can't stand the attacks and general mayhem of public office they should get back IN the kitchen too....
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Post by Deleted on Mar 19, 2019 23:05:55 GMT -5
Olea I have never found a 2x2 that thinks that they should kill people. I know it is the "Changing Way" but we surely hope that their attitude of sanctity of life hasn't changed. As Christ valued life I value life and no body has the right to take an others life. then how do you rationalize putting off onto police and military to do that which you wont? that doesn't make your hands any more clean of the bloodshed....
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Post by Deleted on Mar 19, 2019 23:06:55 GMT -5
I do not dislike men, I try not to dislike anybody. There have really only been two Woman in my life, my Mother and my Wife. I had a Father and three Brothers, and in my work life it was a men only environment. So yes may be I got too much of them, that may have influenced what I now believe. I do believe if there was more acceptance of Woman in Politics, Business World, Church Management, etc, we would get a more tempered, compassionate outcome. It is time for a change, men have had it their own way for far too long. And good Men should stand up, and support the change. couldn't tell by your most recent posts....
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Post by curlywurlysammagee on Mar 19, 2019 23:23:05 GMT -5
We know who was last to "fight" Nazism -- and then only because they were attacked. and we turned the tide of the war in western europe, africa and the pacific... That is not true in Africa. Montgomery had chased Rommell back west across North Africa and he was then recalled or fled to Europe. The USA landed in the west and helped with the mopping up of what was left of the eighth army before the Allies moved onto Italy. In Europe The yanks had difficulty breaking out of their beach head. Later on they became mired down somewhere and Montgomery had to send help. Montgomery is on record as saying that if the yanks had pulled finger in their sector the war in Europe would have been over by December 1944. Montgomery's boss, Alan Brookes was slightly more polite but still did not think a lot of their organisational ability and their love of having a shallow wide front which was easy for the Nazi's to smash open. Hollywood shows a different story. Is that your source?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 19, 2019 23:32:09 GMT -5
and we turned the tide of the war in western europe, africa and the pacific... That is not true in Africa. Montgomery had chased Rommell back west across North Africa and he was then recalled or fled to Europe. The USA landed in the west and helped with the mopping up of what was left of the eighth army before the Allies moved onto Italy. In Europe The yanks had difficulty breaking out of their beach head. Later on they became mired down somewhere and Montgomery had to send help. Montgomery is on record as saying that if the yanks had pulled finger in their sector the war in Europe would have been over by December 1944. Montgomery's boss, Alan Brookes was slightly more polite but still did not think a lot of their organisational ability and their love of having a shallow wide front which was easy for the Nazi's to smash open. Hollywood shows a different story. Is that your source? well one would expect a brit to be a TAD biased in his assessment, ya think?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 19, 2019 23:32:14 GMT -5
I just thank god for the wonderfull Ladies that post on TMB. If it it was a men only forum, i would be gone. The posts by the Ladies, do help to temper what otherwise would be aggressive posts, fuelled by testosterone.
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Post by BobWilliston on Mar 19, 2019 23:44:13 GMT -5
We know who was last to "fight" Nazism -- and then only because they were attacked. and we turned the tide of the war in western europe, africa and the pacific... Of course -- after four years of comfortably saving your resources, you were forced off your fat bank-rolling asses and had to fight for your own interests.
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Post by BobWilliston on Mar 19, 2019 23:46:13 GMT -5
US website labels NZ a 's***hole country', refuses to help police in Christchurch terror attack investigation. i don't think NZ is a sh!thole country maybe arrogant at times but if america would be involved NZ'rs and aussies would just say we were "meddling" in an internal affair.... Stop whining. It's not an internal affair -- it's a world-wide tide of "white terrorism".
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Post by BobWilliston on Mar 19, 2019 23:48:21 GMT -5
I do not dislike men, I try not to dislike anybody. There have really only been two Woman in my life, my Mother and my Wife. I had a Father and three Brothers, and in my work life it was a men only environment. So yes may be I got too much of them, that may have influenced what I now believe. I do believe if there was more acceptance of Woman in Politics, Business World, Church Management, etc, we would get a more tempered, compassionate outcome. It is time for a change, men have had it their own way for far too long. And good Men should stand up, and support the change. couldn't tell by your most recent posts.... You need to come to grip with some of your inability to recognize humanitarian/Christian virtues.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 19, 2019 23:53:08 GMT -5
couldn't tell by your most recent posts.... You need to come to grip with some of your inability to recognize humanitarian/Christian virtues. so good christian virtues is putting down men? sounds like you need to reevaluate your understanding of "christian virtues"....you know those things you abandoned....
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Post by Deleted on Mar 19, 2019 23:54:02 GMT -5
There are some good men who post on here. I am sure Redback does not mean all men as he makes his points.
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Post by BobWilliston on Mar 19, 2019 23:54:29 GMT -5
You are right Olea and your Prime Minister is leading the way. Lets hope that all the dumb men listen. for a male you sure have a heavy dose of misandry.... It makes him appear more empathetic than your dose of misogyny.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 19, 2019 23:55:27 GMT -5
i don't think NZ is a sh!thole country maybe arrogant at times but if america would be involved NZ'rs and aussies would just say we were "meddling" in an internal affair.... Stop whining. It's not an internal affair -- it's a world-wide tide of "white terrorism". nice try....the world doesn't want americas input on anything until they want americas input on something and/or money....
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