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Post by Deleted on Dec 14, 2018 23:23:53 GMT -5
hmmmm a freedom agenda is restricting others rights? you sure you got your story straight? and for the record i have no safety agenda its freedom thats more my concern... You have "no safety agenda" Wally?
Yet you sleep with a gun under your pillow?thats a freedom thing... maybe i should start a safety agenda and require that everyone be armed...
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Post by Deleted on Dec 15, 2018 1:12:00 GMT -5
she was off the air for a week or two i wonder if mika will get any punishment at all... I really don't care. Ingraham has a long history of making homophobic and racist comments. As far as I know, Mika does not. People tend to take time off of broadcasting when sponsors start pulling ads. mika has a long history of making derogatory remarks about trump and co. but that doesn't matter to the likes of you does it. demo's get free speech but not repubs....
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Post by BobWilliston on Dec 15, 2018 1:13:29 GMT -5
Looks like you can get rid of all your guns now. why would i give up a freedom? I didn't say you'd give up your freedom. You just don't want your freedoms to apply to everyone else.
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Post by BobWilliston on Dec 15, 2018 1:15:11 GMT -5
I really don't care. Ingraham has a long history of making homophobic and racist comments. As far as I know, Mika does not. People tend to take time off of broadcasting when sponsors start pulling ads. mika has a long history of making derogatory remarks about trump and co. but that doesn't matter to the likes of you does it. demo's get free speech but not repubs.... Describing a person as "the likes of you" is dismissive and disrespectful, in case you haven't been told.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 15, 2018 1:15:42 GMT -5
why would i give up a freedom? I didn't say you'd give up your freedom. You just don't want your freedoms to apply to everyone else. when i say i am for freedom what is it you exactly hear?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 15, 2018 1:17:40 GMT -5
mika has a long history of making derogatory remarks about trump and co. but that doesn't matter to the likes of you does it. demo's get free speech but not repubs.... Describing a person as "the likes of you" is dismissive and disrespectful, in case you haven't been told. like you aren't dismissive and disrespectful yourself?
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Post by BobWilliston on Dec 15, 2018 1:18:59 GMT -5
Describing a person as "the likes of you" is dismissive and disrespectful, in case you haven't been told. like you aren't dismissive and disrespectful yourself? Only to the likes of you, Wally.
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Post by BobWilliston on Dec 15, 2018 1:20:15 GMT -5
I didn't say you'd give up your freedom. You just don't want your freedoms to apply to everyone else. when i say i am for freedom what is it you exactly hear? I hear something that reminds me of your lack of respect for civil rights.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 15, 2018 1:21:14 GMT -5
like you aren't dismissive and disrespectful yourself? Only to the likes of you, Wally. right back at you liberal...
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Post by Deleted on Dec 15, 2018 1:24:52 GMT -5
when i say i am for freedom what is it you exactly hear? I hear something that reminds me of your lack of respect for civil rights. hmmm must be a memory problem thing...just so your aware when someone says their for freedom thats generally inclusive to all people unless stated otherwise...
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Post by BobWilliston on Dec 15, 2018 2:21:18 GMT -5
I hear something that reminds me of your lack of respect for civil rights. hmmm must be a memory problem thing...just so your aware when someone says their for freedom thats generally inclusive to all people unless stated otherwise... I'm not that easily convinced.
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Post by dmmichgood on Dec 15, 2018 3:19:21 GMT -5
You have "no safety agenda" Wally?
Yet you sleep with a gun under your pillow? thats a freedom thing... maybe i should start a safety agenda and require that everyone be armed... Some people have made an attempt to do just that.
But no one will be able do that to me!
You can not make me take a gun in my hand!
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Post by matisse on Dec 15, 2018 11:48:06 GMT -5
I really don't care. Ingraham has a long history of making homophobic and racist comments. As far as I know, Mika does not. People tend to take time off of broadcasting when sponsors start pulling ads. mika has a long history of making derogatory remarks about trump and co. but that doesn't matter to the likes of you does it. demo's get free speech but not repubs.... I give to the ACLU which fights for 1st Amendment rights for all; this includes the right of Trump supporters to march in white robes and pointy hoods carrying Tiki torches.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 15, 2018 14:09:13 GMT -5
mika has a long history of making derogatory remarks about trump and co. but that doesn't matter to the likes of you does it. demo's get free speech but not repubs.... I give to the ACLU which fights for 1st Amendment rights for all; this includes the right of Trump supporters to march in white robes and pointy hoods carrying Tiki torches. over the last decade or two they haven't done a very good job on the part of repubs...
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Post by matisse on Dec 15, 2018 14:21:10 GMT -5
I give to the ACLU which fights for 1st Amendment rights for all; this includes the right of Trump supporters to march in white robes and pointy hoods carrying Tiki torches. over the last decade or two they haven't done a very good job on the part of repubs... Is there a more despicable form of Republican free speech than a Nazi/White Nationalist rally that you want the ACLU to fight for?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 15, 2018 14:28:59 GMT -5
over the last decade or two they haven't done a very good job on the part of repubs... Is there a more despicable form of Republican free speech than a Nazi/White Nationalist rally that you want the ACLU to fight for? relative to you maybe...talk to the google engineer who mentioned that diversity might not be that great and that the low number of women in tech positions might be because of bio differences and got fired for it....where was the ACLU on that day?
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Post by matisse on Dec 15, 2018 14:44:29 GMT -5
Is there a more despicable form of Republican free speech than a Nazi/White Nationalist rally that you want the ACLU to fight for? relative to you maybe...talk to the google engineer who mentioned that diversity might not be that great and that the low number of women in tech positions might be because of bio differences and got fired for it....where was the ACLU on that day? The ACLU weighed in on the situation. You can "Google it".
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Post by BobWilliston on Dec 15, 2018 18:34:03 GMT -5
Is there a more despicable form of Republican free speech than a Nazi/White Nationalist rally that you want the ACLU to fight for? relative to you maybe...talk to the google engineer who mentioned that diversity might not be that great and that the low number of women in tech positions might be because of bio differences and got fired for it....where was the ACLU on that day? Did any of those poor Republicans ask for the ACLU's help? tsk tsk
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Post by Deleted on Dec 15, 2018 19:03:31 GMT -5
relative to you maybe...talk to the google engineer who mentioned that diversity might not be that great and that the low number of women in tech positions might be because of bio differences and got fired for it....where was the ACLU on that day? The ACLU weighed in on the situation. You can "Google it". they didn't defend him they said the 1st doesn't stop a employer from firing you for what you say...so much for being bastions of free speech. and wasn't it awhile back that the ACLU said it would no longer take every free speech case? you might want to move your donations to another organization that will help people with free speech...
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Post by BobWilliston on Dec 15, 2018 19:09:40 GMT -5
The ACLU weighed in on the situation. You can "Google it". they didn't defend him they said the 1st doesn't stop a employer from firing you for what you say...so much for being bastions of free speech. and wasn't it awhile back that the ACLU said it would no longer take every free speech case? you might want to move your donations to another organization that will help people with free speech... Don't you get terribly dizzy from going around in circles? Or is that just the circumference of your world?
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Post by matisse on Dec 15, 2018 19:10:46 GMT -5
The ACLU weighed in on the situation. You can "Google it". they didn't defend him they said the 1st doesn't stop a employer from firing you for what you say...so much for being bastions of free speech. and wasn't it awhile back that the ACLU said it would no longer take every free speech case? you might want to move your donations to another organization that will help people with free speech... The case falls in a grey area which is fairly well explained in the article I linked to. I expect grey to be difficult for a strictly black and white thinker to deal with.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 15, 2018 19:17:05 GMT -5
they didn't defend him they said the 1st doesn't stop a employer from firing you for what you say...so much for being bastions of free speech. and wasn't it awhile back that the ACLU said it would no longer take every free speech case? you might want to move your donations to another organization that will help people with free speech... Don't you get terribly dizzy from going around in circles? Or is that just the circumference of your world? sounds like your projecting there bob...
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Post by Deleted on Dec 15, 2018 19:18:52 GMT -5
they didn't defend him they said the 1st doesn't stop a employer from firing you for what you say...so much for being bastions of free speech. and wasn't it awhile back that the ACLU said it would no longer take every free speech case? you might want to move your donations to another organization that will help people with free speech... The case falls in a grey area which is fairly well explained in the article I linked to. I expect grey to be difficult for a strictly black and white thinker to deal with. ridiculous answer to say the least....i see no links in your previous posts where is it?
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Post by dmmichgood on Dec 15, 2018 19:22:13 GMT -5
mika has a long history of making derogatory remarks about trump and co. but that doesn't matter to the likes of you does it. demo's get free speech but not repubs.... I give to the ACLU which fights for 1st Amendment rights for all; this includes the right of Trump supporters to march in white robes and pointy hoods carrying Tiki torches. Thanks, matisse.
The ACLU, -American Civil Liberties Union, -has a very good record.
THE ACLU TODAY
For nearly 100 years, the ACLU has been our nation’s guardian of liberty, working in courts, legislatures, and communities to defend and preserve the individual rights and liberties that the Constitution and the laws of the United States guarantee everyone in this country.
www.aclu.org/about-aclu
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Post by matisse on Dec 15, 2018 20:30:36 GMT -5
The case falls in a grey area which is fairly well explained in the article I linked to. I expect grey to be difficult for a strictly black and white thinker to deal with. ridiculous answer to say the least....i see no links in your previous posts where is it? Oh, right, I was going to post a link, and then decided to let you look for yourself. But here you go: Does Google's fired "manifesto" writer have a legal case? Excerpt, including some comments from a senior staff attorney at the ACLU: While it's unclear what legal route Damore might pursue, free-speech grounds would be a stretch, given that the First Amendment provides protection only from government censorship. Of course, employees enjoy legal protections at work, such as anti-discrimination laws for protected groups. But the First Amendment doesn't prohibit an employer from firing a worker based on their speech, said Lee Rowland, senior staff attorney at the American Civil Liberties Union's Speech, Privacy & Technology Project. "As a private company, Google has the right to discipline employees for their speech or for violations of their code of conduct," Rowland said. "But every company should use that power judiciously to avoid creating a perceived political litmus test for employment."
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Post by BobWilliston on Dec 15, 2018 21:08:41 GMT -5
ridiculous answer to say the least....i see no links in your previous posts where is it? Oh, right, I was going to post a link, and then decided to let you look for yourself. But here you go: Does Google's fired "manifesto" writer have a legal case? Excerpt, including some comments from a senior staff attorney at the ACLU: While it's unclear what legal route Damore might pursue, free-speech grounds would be a stretch, given that the First Amendment provides protection only from government censorship. Of course, employees enjoy legal protections at work, such as anti-discrimination laws for protected groups. But the First Amendment doesn't prohibit an employer from firing a worker based on their speech, said Lee Rowland, senior staff attorney at the American Civil Liberties Union's Speech, Privacy & Technology Project. "As a private company, Google has the right to discipline employees for their speech or for violations of their code of conduct," Rowland said. "But every company should use that power judiciously to avoid creating a perceived political litmus test for employment." "judiciously" -- must be a fake liberal concept.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 15, 2018 22:46:23 GMT -5
ridiculous answer to say the least....i see no links in your previous posts where is it? Oh, right, I was going to post a link, and then decided to let you look for yourself. But here you go: Does Google's fired "manifesto" writer have a legal case? Excerpt, including some comments from a senior staff attorney at the ACLU: While it's unclear what legal route Damore might pursue, free-speech grounds would be a stretch, given that the First Amendment provides protection only from government censorship. Of course, employees enjoy legal protections at work, such as anti-discrimination laws for protected groups. But the First Amendment doesn't prohibit an employer from firing a worker based on their speech, said Lee Rowland, senior staff attorney at the American Civil Liberties Union's Speech, Privacy & Technology Project. "As a private company, Google has the right to discipline employees for their speech or for violations of their code of conduct," Rowland said. "But every company should use that power judiciously to avoid creating a perceived political litmus test for employment." not the most glowing defense of free speech i've ever heard...you should be proud...
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Post by dmmichgood on Dec 15, 2018 23:27:37 GMT -5
The case falls in a grey area which is fairly well explained in the article I linked to. I expect grey to be difficult for a strictly black and white thinker to deal with. ridiculous answer to say the least....i see no links in your previous posts where is it? THAT AS THE LINK, WALLY!
Didn't you read what she said?
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Oh, right, I was going to post a link, and then decided to let you look for yourself. But here you go:
Does Google's fired "manifesto" writer have a legal case? Does Google's fired "manifesto" writer have a legal case?
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