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Post by maryhig on Aug 4, 2020 6:30:16 GMT -5
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**"We weren't originally designed poorly,.."
That is not really true, Dan, -unless you believe that our bodies have not changed since they were created by "god."
You apparently do not think they have been changed since you seem to deny the science of the "evolution of life."
If we were "originally designed" so well then why do we have a "tail bone" that serves us no purpose and only give us problems?
Also how about the "appendix" for which also has no purpose at all & can become infected and kill us if not treated?
I don't believe that the basic structure of human bodies have changed, they just become corruptible without the Tree of Life.
The coccyx (tail bone) serves as an attachment site for tendons, ligaments, and muscles. It also functions as an insertion point of some of the muscles of the pelvic floor. The coccyx also functions to support and stabilize a person while he or she is in a sitting position. They use to say that tonsils had no purpose too, only to discover that the function of tonsils is to trap germs (bacteria and viruses) which you may breathe in. Proteins called antibodies produced by the immune cells in the tonsils help to kill germs and help to prevent throat and lung infections. We assume the appendix has no purpose, but we don't understand everything in the body do we? Researchers deduce that the appendix is designed to protect good bacteria in the gut. That way, when the gut is affected by a bout of diarrhea or other illness that cleans out the intestines, the good bacteria in the appendix can repopulate the digestive system and keep you healthy. I obviously believe God designed everything for a purpose.
If your experiences have not been just been "internal," -then you must have seen something with your actual eyes or heard something with your actual ears right?
Otherwise it IS "internal," just as Matt states.
How could any experience we have be otherwise?
If I am the only one that is seeing a tree and everyone around do NOT see that same tree, my "experience" has to be internal.
Matt has asked:
"If you have any evidence at all that the Christian God exists outside of the bible and the minds of those who believe in Him then I’d be curious to see it."
Romans 1:20;The external evidence of God is seen in what He made. If everyone see's the tree, the experience is external.
We can't make or replicate a tree, it must come from its own kind. Non-believers don't know how a tree came into being from nothing, but they have determined it could not have been created? That's a conclusion that defies the visible evidence. Intelligence is a requirement for creating complex information such as that found in the genetic code and DNA of every living thing. DNA: The Tiny Code That's Toppling EvolutionIt's a bit like this, many people look at a tree as a tree, but they don't see it as life giving, in that it takes in the damaging carbon dioxide that we give out and it gives out oxygen. This is a picture of the tree of Life, Christ, and those who truly belong to him with him in their hearts, and they take whatsoever is thrown at them and show love and forgiveness the fruits of the Spirit in return, suffering and enduring to bare witness to the truth as God strengthens them, as they bring the word of God and love of God through the Spirit to others.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 4, 2020 9:36:30 GMT -5
Didn’t think he was a worker as no worker I’ve had experience with would be supporting you on here. well spotted. I didn't think of that.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 4, 2020 9:42:23 GMT -5
Comments on the above post:
**"We weren't originally designed poorly,.."
That is not really true, Dan, -unless you believe that our bodies have not changed since they were created by "god."
You apparently do not think they have been changed since you seem to deny the science of the "evolution of life."
If we were "originally designed" so well then why do we have a "tail bone" that serves us no purpose and only give us problems?
Also how about the "appendix" for which also has no purpose at all & can become infected and kill us if not treated?
I don't believe that the basic structure of human bodies have changed, they just become corruptible without the Tree of Life.
The coccyx (tail bone) serves as an attachment site for tendons, ligaments, and muscles. It also functions as an insertion point of some of the muscles of the pelvic floor. The coccyx also functions to support and stabilize a person while he or she is in a sitting position. They use to say that tonsils had no purpose too, only to discover that the function of tonsils is to trap germs (bacteria and viruses) which you may breathe in. Proteins called antibodies produced by the immune cells in the tonsils help to kill germs and help to prevent throat and lung infections. We assume the appendix has no purpose, but we don't understand everything in the body do we? Researchers deduce that the appendix is designed to protect good bacteria in the gut. That way, when the gut is affected by a bout of diarrhea or other illness that cleans out the intestines, the good bacteria in the appendix can repopulate the digestive system and keep you healthy. I obviously believe God designed everything for a purpose.
If your experiences have not been just been "internal," -then you must have seen something with your actual eyes or heard something with your actual ears right?
Otherwise it IS "internal," just as Matt states.
How could any experience we have be otherwise?
If I am the only one that is seeing a tree and everyone around do NOT see that same tree, my "experience" has to be internal.
Matt has asked:
"If you have any evidence at all that the Christian God exists outside of the bible and the minds of those who believe in Him then I’d be curious to see it."
Romans 1:20;The external evidence of God is seen in what He made. If everyone see's the tree, the experience is external.
We can't make or replicate a tree, it must come from its own kind. Non-believers don't know how a tree came into being from nothing, but they have determined it could not have been created? That's a conclusion that defies the visible evidence. Intelligence is a requirement for creating complex information such as that found in the genetic code and DNA of every living thing. DNA: The Tiny Code That's Toppling Evolution God designed the appendix the way it is? 7% of the US population will suffer from appendicitis. Some design. www.medscape.com/answers/773895-14426/what-is-the-incidence-of-appendicitis-in-the-us
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Post by nathan on Aug 4, 2020 10:00:53 GMT -5
I don't believe that the basic structure of human bodies have changed, they just become corruptible without the Tree of Life.
The coccyx (tail bone) serves as an attachment site for tendons, ligaments, and muscles. It also functions as an insertion point of some of the muscles of the pelvic floor. The coccyx also functions to support and stabilize a person while he or she is in a sitting position. They use to say that tonsils had no purpose too, only to discover that the function of tonsils is to trap germs (bacteria and viruses) which you may breathe in. Proteins called antibodies produced by the immune cells in the tonsils help to kill germs and help to prevent throat and lung infections. We assume the appendix has no purpose, but we don't understand everything in the body do we? Researchers deduce that the appendix is designed to protect good bacteria in the gut. That way, when the gut is affected by a bout of diarrhea or other illness that cleans out the intestines, the good bacteria in the appendix can repopulate the digestive system and keep you healthy. I obviously believe God designed everything for a purpose.
Romans 1:20;The external evidence of God is seen in what He made. If everyone see's the tree, the experience is external.
We can't make or replicate a tree, it must come from its own kind. Non-believers don't know how a tree came into being from nothing, but they have determined it could not have been created? That's a conclusion that defies the visible evidence. Intelligence is a requirement for creating complex information such as that found in the genetic code and DNA of every living thing. DNA: The Tiny Code That's Toppling Evolution God designed the appendix the way it is? 7% of the US population will suffer from appendicitis. Some design. www.medscape.com/answers/773895-14426/what-is-the-incidence-of-appendicitis-in-the-us Sometimes it's the humans fault, they take and put all kinds of addiction drugs into their bodies so their faulty DNA genes pass on to their children. When God created Adam and Eve they were perfect and many of Old Testament people lived about 1000 years old. Please, don't blame God almost for every Sicknesses, illnesses, cancer, diseases, and deadly viruses created by men to DEPOPULATION! Thinning the herd so to speak.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 4, 2020 12:32:05 GMT -5
Sometimes it's the humans fault, they take and put all kinds of addiction drugs into their bodies so their faulty DNA genes pass on to their children. When God created Adam and Eve they were perfect and many of Old Testament people lived about 1000 years old. Please, don't blame God almost for every Sicknesses, illnesses, cancer, diseases, and deadly viruses created by men to DEPOPULATION! Thinning the herd so to speak.
Can I blame him for killing people with... Floods?(Gen 6-9)? Bears? (2Kings 2:24) Fire and Brimstone? He is rather good at killing the people he loves for some pretty petty reasons... rationalwiki.org/wiki/Examples_of_God_personally_killing_people
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Post by nathan on Aug 4, 2020 13:48:55 GMT -5
Sometimes it's the humans fault, they take and put all kinds of addiction drugs into their bodies so their faulty DNA genes pass on to their children. When God created Adam and Eve they were perfect and many of Old Testament people lived about 1000 years old. Please, don't blame God almost for every Sicknesses, illnesses, cancer, diseases, and deadly viruses created by men to DEPOPULATION! Thinning the herd so to speak.
Can I blame him for killing people with... Floods?(Gen 6-9)? Bears? (2Kings 2:24) Fire and Brimstone? He is rather good at killing the people he loves for some pretty petty reasons... rationalwiki.org/wiki/Examples_of_God_personally_killing_people*** I explained most your question in the past. Our God is a good, kind, and LOVING God. He always right and he KNOWS, UNDERSTAND things of the past and future that the humans don't have that abilities to see or understand so, they say all kinds of stupid things about God and he overlook their stupidity. God doesn't like the killing but sometimes it is necessary to wipe out the humans EVILNESSS on the earth to SAVE the millions of souls down the road. Our God is a RIGHTEOUS, FAIR, and a JUST Savior.
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Post by plp on Aug 4, 2020 13:56:01 GMT -5
Hi Ipsedixit If there is a God, do you consider it unfair of him that we die? If not, do you consider it is unfair of him that we die at different ages?
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Post by nathan on Aug 4, 2020 13:56:50 GMT -5
You don’t read correctly. Funone was a sanctimonious putdown..er of Maryhig. You may be too ( if you’re owning up to something here) but missed that one. *** There are things that Maryh believes that many exes and 2x2s have expressed their disagreement on her understanding... What did funone disagree with Maryh on or about?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 4, 2020 15:42:36 GMT -5
Hi Ipsedixit If there is a God, do you consider it unfair of him that we die? If not, do you consider it is unfair of him that we die at different ages? That's a good, deep question! I suppose that would depend on the role (if any) the God or Gods play in our lives. If there is a God who actively intervenes in the affairs of man, then I would suggest that it's not unfair that we should die, but the circumstances surrounding our lives and deaths are anything but fair. The only way to get around the fact that every minute, a child will die of hunger, neglect, injury, illness, war and all other manner of misfortune (and the prayers of any for the child to survive will not be answered) is to believe that after death, all will be balanced. Furthermore, a God who intervenes in these mysterious sorts of ways also makes the concept of personal responsibility irrelevant. If I do some horrific thing to another person, and an all-powerful God does nothing to stop me, it was obviously his will that the horrible thing happened. How could I be punished for doing his will? However, a God who exists, but does not intervene, erases the concept of "fair" outright. So death, and death at different ages becomes neither fair nor unfair. It just is. In other words, I have no idea! 😆
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Post by iam on Aug 4, 2020 20:17:04 GMT -5
No, death for me because I would OBEY God the Father command if I Were King Saul's. Not just for that, Nathan. And you don’t even KNOW the things you’re doing that would have meant the death sentence for you too. Blind.
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Post by iam on Aug 4, 2020 20:19:27 GMT -5
** It's time for you to take a long vacation too! You are due for one. Do your local workers know that you advocate hanging them. It is time they were informed of your opinions of them. Professing people on here need to take action to inform the workers of your opinions. They wouldn’t care. As long as he doesn’t cause a disturbance in the meetings he can be as much of a sh** disturber anywhere else. That’s how it works usually.
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Post by iam on Aug 4, 2020 20:23:28 GMT -5
Funone: It's Nathan's idea that they are going to hell. I believe it’s always your Idea 💡 to be a little pot stirrer. Sad Sounds like the kettle calling the pot black. Sigh. Same old.
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Post by nathan on Aug 4, 2020 20:23:51 GMT -5
No, death for me because I would OBEY God the Father command if I Were King Saul's. Not just for that, Nathan. And you don’t even KNOW the things you’re doing that would have meant the death sentence for you too. Blind. ** I have no clue what the heck you are talking about.
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Post by iam on Aug 4, 2020 20:24:16 GMT -5
What they're effectively saying is that TMB is no longer worth reading by intelligent rational people. Spoken by someone with a name of “fixit” Nathan likes that.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 4, 2020 20:26:04 GMT -5
Not just for that, Nathan. And you don’t even KNOW the things you’re doing that would have meant the death sentence for you too. Blind. ** I have no clue what the heck you are talking about. Perfect response
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Post by iam on Aug 4, 2020 20:27:28 GMT -5
Not just for that, Nathan. And you don’t even KNOW the things you’re doing that would have meant the death sentence for you too. Blind. ** I have no clue what the heck you are talking about. I know
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Post by nathan on Aug 4, 2020 20:28:47 GMT -5
Do your local workers know that you advocate hanging them. It is time they were informed of your opinions of them. Professing people on here need to take action to inform the workers of your opinions. They wouldn’t care. As long as he doesn’t cause a disturbance in the meetings he can be as much of a sh** disturber anywhere else. That’s how it works usually. ** Wow! This is coming from a 2x2 ex-sister worker.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 4, 2020 20:32:19 GMT -5
They wouldn’t care. As long as he doesn’t cause a disturbance in the meetings he can be as much of a sh** disturber anywhere else. That’s how it works usually. ** Wow! This is coming from a 2x2 ex-sister worker. things are not always as they appear to be...
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Post by iam on Aug 4, 2020 21:08:51 GMT -5
They wouldn’t care. As long as he doesn’t cause a disturbance in the meetings he can be as much of a sh** disturber anywhere else. That’s how it works usually. ** Wow! This is coming from a 2x2 ex-sister worker. Wow. Everything you post coming from an ex brother worker. Completely bizarre and inappropriate.
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Post by iam on Aug 4, 2020 21:10:50 GMT -5
** Wow! This is coming from a 2x2 ex-sister worker. things are not always as they appear to be... From what I am seeing on TMB if the 2x2s they’re exactly as they seem to be. Self righteous hypocrites.
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Post by iam on Aug 4, 2020 21:18:37 GMT -5
I believe it’s always your Idea 💡 to be a little pot stirrer. Sad Yes, he likes to STIR my pot too much, for 20 years long on TMB under different alias. Even an active worker from down under have noticed fixit/elder and wrote about it on TMB a few years ago. YES, that is very SAD.Ha. An ACTIVE worker from down under. We have some of those kinds here too. I love what a very dear and kind elder said not long ago....the one will be taken and one will be left us about the workers. But here’s Nathan putting yet another so called worker from TMB on a pedestal because it achieves the end that NATHAN wants achieved. (Nathan, not God).
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Post by iam on Aug 4, 2020 21:22:53 GMT -5
Evil people such as Nathan and Wally need to be exposed by pot stirring. Are you content to allow the evil they represent to go unchecked? and an evil communist such as yourself needs to be shown the door especially on TMB... How can someone like YOURSELF call ANYONE else EVIL!? The FORM of the truth doesn’t save you, Wally! You can’t seem to understand that in this life.
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Post by iam on Aug 4, 2020 21:30:28 GMT -5
That is a disgusting thing to say. You are deteriating rapidly. *** That is the TRUTH! If the 2x2 workers and the friends don't change their anti-Trinity teachings; they are classifified on the same level with the Mormons and Jehovah Witnesses Anti-Trinity believers. The early days workers and friends are rolling in their graves right now. Jesus Christ would NOT be too much HAPPY with the Anti-Trinity; Jesus is NOT God doctrines either. If you continue your STRANGE doctrines you’re going to face Jesus and He is NOT HAPPY about YOUR heresies. How can you or Wally even POSSIBLY speak on God’s behalf when there’s enough hypocrisy and “antichrist“ right under your own roof. 😣
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Post by Deleted on Aug 4, 2020 21:32:17 GMT -5
and an evil communist such as yourself needs to be shown the door especially on TMB... How can someone like YOURSELF call ANYONE else EVIL!? The FORM of the truth doesn’t save you, Wally! You can’t seem to understand that in this life. maybe ask curlytroll why he used the word.... who said the FORM of the truth saves us? hallucinate much?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 4, 2020 21:33:52 GMT -5
*** That is the TRUTH! If the 2x2 workers and the friends don't change their anti-Trinity teachings; they are classifified on the same level with the Mormons and Jehovah Witnesses Anti-Trinity believers. The early days workers and friends are rolling in their graves right now. Jesus Christ would NOT be too much HAPPY with the Anti-Trinity; Jesus is NOT God doctrines either. How can you or Wally even POSSIBLY speak on God’s behalf when there’s enough hypocrisy and “antichrist“ right under your own roof. 😣 project much?
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Post by iam on Aug 4, 2020 21:36:48 GMT -5
What’s nice and softy about saying on here “no I will let God put them to death, he does a better job than me putting them to death”. What’s nice and softy about saying previously On here “ workers should be hung”. I will give a short answer. ABSOLUTLY NOTHING indicating You are nice and softly person. *** When the 2x2 workers are teaching false doctrines and TURNED the friends from believing in God to become atheists and to join the false churches because of their teachings... In the judgment day they get more than than hanging! Just to THINK how many 2x2s have lost their Salvation the last 75 years and crowns of life because of the 2x2 workers preaching and teaching of Anti-Trinity and Anti-Jesus is NOT God doctrines. bs
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Post by iam on Aug 4, 2020 21:38:26 GMT -5
How can someone like YOURSELF call ANYONE else EVIL!? The FORM of the truth doesn’t save you, Wally! You can’t seem to understand that in this life. maybe ask curlytroll why he used the word.... who said the FORM of the truth saves us? hallucinate much? Hallucinate much? Not enough. 😝
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Post by funone on Aug 4, 2020 21:42:12 GMT -5
and an evil communist such as yourself needs to be shown the door especially on TMB... How can someone like YOURSELF call ANYONE else EVIL!? The FORM of the truth doesn’t save you, Wally! You can’t seem to understand that in this life. All right!!! Everyone line up for your sister butt kicking tonight! Where did she learn these ways??
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