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Post by Get off of TMB on Sept 3, 2018 16:38:54 GMT -5
Tennessee. Nashville field with Bobby Sylvia.
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Post by Get off of TMB on Oct 6, 2018 15:38:05 GMT -5
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Post by snow on Oct 7, 2018 14:10:01 GMT -5
Well that would be perjury right there. Of course they have a hierarchy! They aren't like the rest of the members. It saddens me that the people I once thought of as honest have proven to be otherwise.
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Post by snow on Jan 8, 2019 13:08:35 GMT -5
Well that would be perjury right there. Of course they have a hierarchy! They aren't like the rest of the members. It saddens me that the people I once thought of as honest have proven to be otherwise. For some reason I missed this from several months back. I had to quit reading it. This is pretty disgusting. He was "here" this past year for convention and all I could think about was this situation when he spoke. Who or what pot of money funded his defense? Well, as far as I know, their only source of money for these types of things is from the friends. So the friends fund the workers to get off from charges against their children.
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Post by BobWilliston on Jan 8, 2019 21:37:42 GMT -5
So who will fund such a guy's defense when he's being charged with sexually harassing sister workers?
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Post by snow on Jan 9, 2019 12:31:19 GMT -5
Well, as far as I know, their only source of money for these types of things is from the friends. So the friends fund the workers to get off from charges against their children. I understood the case against Jerome was failing to report on Briggs(?). I will have to go back and read the trial report. You could be right. I answered the question of where the money came from. From the friends. They support the workers and they use their money to support those who have been charged with CSA against the friends children.
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Post by christiansburg on Jan 9, 2019 23:24:58 GMT -5
Tennessee. Nashville field with Bobby Sylvia. Saw them a few days ago. They seem to be doing well.
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Post by christiansburg on Jan 20, 2019 15:36:19 GMT -5
Saw them a few days ago. They seem to be doing well. Elaborate. They were at Robert Johnson's funeral in NC.
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Post by Dennis J on Jan 20, 2019 22:31:31 GMT -5
It is with a sad heart that this one must accept funds were/are available for such things, yet not for a worker sustaining a life long injury sustained in the line of duty overseas, nor to pay his fare back to the USA. Workers beware, you have been warned.
Then, excommunicate them, so that they cannot ever recover....
Amazing, never would I have thought it possible, nor that workers would accept secret pensions while in that work.
What is wrong with you people who support this?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 20, 2019 22:50:12 GMT -5
It is with a sad heart that this one must accept funds were/are available for such things, yet not for a worker sustaining a life long injury sustained in the line of duty overseas, nor to pay his fare back to the USA. Workers beware, you have been warned. Then, excommunicate them, so that they cannot ever recover....Amazing, never would I have thought it possible, nor that workers would accept secret pensions while in that work.What is wrong with you people who support this?hear no evil see no evil speak no evil....
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Post by BobWilliston on Jan 20, 2019 22:53:00 GMT -5
It is with a sad heart that this one must accept funds were/are available for such things, yet not for a worker sustaining a life long injury sustained in the line of duty overseas, nor to pay his fare back to the USA. Workers beware, you have been warned. Then, excommunicate them, so that they cannot ever recover....Amazing, never would I have thought it possible, nor that workers would accept secret pensions while in that work.What is wrong with you people who support this?hear no evil see no evil speak no evil.... Just let it happen.
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Post by dmmichgood on Jan 21, 2019 3:09:15 GMT -5
It is with a sad heart that this one must accept funds were/are available for such things, yet not for a worker sustaining a life long injury sustained in the line of duty overseas, nor to pay his fare back to the USA. Workers beware, you have been warned. Then, excommunicate them, so that they cannot ever recover....Amazing, never would I have thought it possible, nor that workers would accept secret pensions while in that work.What is wrong with you people who support this?hear no evil see no evil speak no evil.... Wally! Can that crap! It isn't about "hear no evil see no evil speak no evil...." in this case!
When something is true it needs to be exposed!
Dennis is talking about his own EXPERIENCE.
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Post by Dennis J on Jan 21, 2019 3:18:28 GMT -5
Thank you, ma’am. Thank you very much.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 21, 2019 8:10:15 GMT -5
hear no evil see no evil speak no evil.... Wally! Can that crap! It isn't about "hear no evil see no evil speak no evil...." in this case!
When something is true it needs to be exposed!
Dennis is talking about his own EXPERIENCE. your telling me all the average 2x2's knows everything thats going on? please.... i never heard of dennis or his situation till i came on here and we live in the same state...
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Post by nathan on Jan 21, 2019 8:58:38 GMT -5
Wally! Can that crap! It isn't about "hear no evil see no evil speak no evil...." in this case!
When something is true it needs to be exposed!
Dennis is talking about his own EXPERIENCE. your telling me all the average 2x2's knows everything thats going on? please.... i never heard of dennis or his situation till i came on here and we live in the same state... I believe the overseers need to change their ways of doing thing pertain helping the workers who left the work for whatever reasons... MOST of them who left the work LEFT with NOTHING! or No money to start in their NEW life. They should use the friends trust funds for this purpose, paying their health bills, some money package to get them on their feet.
THEY LEFT all behind to start in the work, given their all in the ministry, live a fishbowl life, no privacy, do and go whenever or wherever they are told and so on... The friends who left their wills for the ministry Need and MUST mention that 10% of their will/money go to helping out the workers who left the work.
A few of the friends and two workers sent me some money after I left the work. My church elders let me stayed in their home for 6 months, and found a job for me. I am very thankful for their help but I wish the overseers can do their parts too. Thanks be to God, He opened doors, ways and making provision for me to get me back on my feet.
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Post by Get off of TMB on Jan 21, 2019 9:47:23 GMT -5
He was "here" this past year for convention and all I could think about was this situation when he spoke. ************ Many saints probably know little to nothing about the mess in Michigan.
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Post by dmmichgood on Jan 21, 2019 23:19:57 GMT -5
Wally! Can that crap! It isn't about "hear no evil see no evil speak no evil...." in this case!
When something is true it needs to be exposed!
Dennis is talking about his own EXPERIENCE. your telling me all the average 2x2's knows everything thats going on? please.... i never heard of dennis or his situation till i came on here and we live in the same state... Wally! -of course you didn't hear anything about "Dennis or his situation!"
They who control information controls who gets to know as well as what they get to know!
And who is in control of information?
You know very well who, -the workers!
And should something slip out that they don't want known what they tell people ? Guess, -ah, you got it!
"hear no evil see no evil speak no evil...."
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Post by Deleted on Jan 22, 2019 0:06:12 GMT -5
your telling me all the average 2x2's knows everything thats going on? please.... i never heard of dennis or his situation till i came on here and we live in the same state... Wally! -of course you didn't hear anything about "Dennis or his situation!"
They who control information controls who gets to know as well as what they get to know!
And who is in control of information?
You know very well who, -the workers!
And should something slip out that they don't want known what they tell people ? Guess, -ah, you got it!
"hear no evil see no evil speak no evil...." so after that caterwhaling you do agree with me...good to know....
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Post by Dennis J on Jan 22, 2019 0:26:40 GMT -5
Wally, surely you know by now? I thought I knew most all of the group in Washington State, but can’t seem to place you either. Thirty years allows for a lot of water under a bridge, though. I sent a few letters of need to Mark Huddle and HE ignored me as if I were a non entity so I am not surprised you have been kept in the dark.
Mark knows better, you do/did not. But then, I do not suspect that you sold out for place and honor in that group. Mark has a huge shock in his future.
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Post by dmmichgood on Jan 22, 2019 0:38:47 GMT -5
Wally! -of course you didn't hear anything about "Dennis or his situation!"
They who control information controls who gets to know as well as what they get to know!
And who is in control of information?
You know very well who, -the workers!
And should something slip out that they don't want known what they tell people ? Guess, -ah, you got it!
"hear no evil see no evil speak no evil...." so after that caterwhaling you do agree with me...good to know.... I may not be as articulate as I would like to be but you seem to never understand my posts.
But I am quite sure that you understood what I meant.
You didn't know anything about Dennis situation because workers in high places don't want lowly friends to know some of the things that they do, -so they have made a mantra out of "hear no evil see no evil speak no evil...." That keeps the friends from talking among themselves, -in fact making it a "sin" to do so.
Control of information is the first action of any dictatorial leaders.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 22, 2019 0:51:52 GMT -5
Wally, surely you know by now? I thought I knew most all of the group in Washington State, but can’t seem to place you either. Thirty years allows for a lot of water under a bridge, though. I sent a few letters of need to Mark Huddle and HE ignored me as if I were a non entity so I am not surprised you have been kept in the dark.
Mark knows better, you do/did not. But then, I do not suspect that you sold out for place and honor in that group. Mark has a huge shock in his future. yes i've read your exit/testimony letter but as i promised i would not speak about your situation pro or con any more.... i would have been associated with the eicher clan in WA and OR and IOWA of course... i would say most of the 2x2's do not know everything that is going on hence my statement hear no evil see no evil speak no evil... i will say after being on here i have heard people mention your name among the people i have coffee with once a month so your not forgotten at least by the older folks....
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Post by blacksheep on Feb 12, 2019 10:06:32 GMT -5
I have witnessed over the years (generations), that the "circle the wagons" mentality that was so strong among the truthers in the past has weakened considerably. This has resulted in the mix of attitudes that we see today. In years gone by, it would have been unheard of for a member of the "truth" going to the "worldly" authorities over the Workers. Jerome was raised in approximately the same generation as myself, and he probably was not expecting to have his judgement second guessed.
My parents were raised in "the truth" in the 1920's and 30's (in the United States). I was raised in the 1950's and 60's. My parents were strongly influenced by the early Irish workers, my mother's father fled Ireland. The Irish, who founded "the truth" in Ireland had a persecution complex, and in Ireland, with justification. There was a lot of hatred between the various Christian faiths over there.
My parents gloried in what they viewed as being "most despised", as they believed that proved they were in "the only right way". In reality, in the United States, they were not despised, just viewed as harmless nut-jobs. It seemed better to be hated than pitied, I guess.
But that group mentality of "us against The World" justified, in their minds, their repulsion to the very idea of allowing the Worldly Government into the groups affairs. Any wrong doing was to be handled by the Workers, and good truthers would accept the outcome unquestioningly.
Now, here a few generations go by and folks bring in the Worldly Authorities in, after JF deemed the correct thing to do was just send DB back to New York. JF didn't foresee that his actions would be seen as aiding a fleeing criminal. Time have change, and JF knows that now. So does his co-conspirator BD..
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