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Post by Deleted on Jun 30, 2018 2:52:34 GMT -5
Great story Slowtosee, I am not a good storyteller, don't think I could top that. Can relate to the funeral situation, think I mentioned about an experience I had recently. Went to a funeral of a dear friend, he was 91. Waiting for the service to start, two guys my vintage sat down in front of us. They shook hands, one said to the other "This is starting to be a bad habit". So can relate to the funeral thing. The other advice for our vintage is "Don't stand too close to the hole". To answer your questions. Some 67 years ago Magpie, another girl, and myself were dragged along to a mission by our Parents. We all professed together on the night the meeting was tested. That girl became my Brother's Wife and I married her younger Sister. That girl is still professing, does not enjoy good health. My Wife talks to her often, as Sisters do. It took place in a small country town in Victoria, Australia. My Wife and I only lasted as 2x2's for 14 years, then ventured out, no regrets. Was raised on a dairy farm, loved it. Cows are great creatures, very easy to fall in love with them. Left the farm when I was 14, became a townie. Started with the Post Office, my work for 40 years. Started in Postal for 10 years, then Technical for 20 years, back to Postal for the last 10 years when I retired. Had a great time, got caught up in the culture with my workmates, and drank too much. Sorry for that, was not fair to my Wife and family. In Technical I became involved in Science, involved in R&D of telephony. Hence my leaning towards Science much more interesting. Post Office threw me out when I was 55, said I was too old and cranky. Semi retired since, just spent time helping my family. My spiritual journey has been very exciting. I am a free spirit, look at everything, commit to nothing. I don't think any beliefs should take over your mind, and isolate you from other people. Do not agree with the right, wrong, true way, etc, concepts. Look at all things, come to your own conclusion, don't make judgements on things you know nothing about. Enjoy everything that our great creator has provided for us. That is not to say that it is carte blanche. We need to choose wisely, there are many things we need to avoid. But choose for yourself, don't allow other people to tell you how to live. It is your right to choose, and they should respect that. The 2x2's are changing, they do not live the austere life style we had to endure. My hope is that they become more liberal in their thinking. I feel it is happening on TMB and that is a good thing. Enough rave on, that is about it, a bit of a mess. interesting testimony don't like the leaving part but interesting nonetheless...
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Post by Deleted on Jun 30, 2018 3:24:03 GMT -5
Thanks Wally, remember it is a dirty duck, that dabbles in the same pond.
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Post by slowtosee on Jun 30, 2018 8:13:26 GMT -5
Enough rave on, that is about it, a bit of a mess.[/quote]
Thanks redback. V Interesting. Is there REALLY any person's life that isn't " a bit of a mess" . I don't know of any, although, do know a few that "pretend". Alvin
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Post by snow on Jun 30, 2018 10:19:20 GMT -5
Helping others is just a form of socialism. I think that common sense was survived by that step brother also. My opinion FWIW: Where socialism means squashing the free market (e.g. the "glorious revolution" in Venezuela) it's stupid and leads down a slippery slope to untold misery. Ask the Greeks how hard it is to climb back up the slippery slope to a sustainable economy. Where socialism means taxing the free market to a reasonable extent to help the needy then it works very well. I agree that it has to be done right. There needs to be a system that makes sure the people that need help get it and a system that gets the money to do that. But there also needs to be a system that weeds out those who are capable of working and just want a free ride. It will never be 100% effective, some will get a free ride, but if we don't do something to help those who really do need it, we aren't much of a civilization imo.
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Post by fixit on Jun 30, 2018 16:27:56 GMT -5
My opinion FWIW: Where socialism means squashing the free market (e.g. the "glorious revolution" in Venezuela) it's stupid and leads down a slippery slope to untold misery. Ask the Greeks how hard it is to climb back up the slippery slope to a sustainable economy. Where socialism means taxing the free market to a reasonable extent to help the needy then it works very well. I agree that it has to be done right. There needs to be a system that makes sure the people that need help get it and a system that gets the money to do that. But there also needs to be a system that weeds out those who are capable of working and just want a free ride. It will never be 100% effective, some will get a free ride, but if we don't do something to help those who really do need it, we aren't much of a civilization imo. This is where it becomes tricky: people take the nanny state for granted. "No need to save for my own home, the government will give me a home". "No need for health insurance, the government will pay for my health needs". "No need to save for retirement, the government will give me a pension". "No need to save for nursing home care, the government will pay for it". It gets even worse with some people... "No need to study or work, the government will provide for my needs". In a free country, what should be done for those who don't want to work?
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Post by magpie on Jun 30, 2018 23:03:46 GMT -5
The "Redress"scheme starts today in Australia. It covers decades of survivors of criminal child sex abuse. Now the 2x2 ministry and families are advising for the sake of their Irvinist Gospel not to register. As experts of coverups,they wish to remain so. DON"T BE FRIGHTENED JUST BELIEVE!!
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Post by slowtosee on Jul 1, 2018 8:28:52 GMT -5
The "Redress"scheme starts today in Australia. It covers decades of survivors of criminal child sex abuse. Now the 2x2 ministry and families are advising for the sake of their Irvinist Gospel not to register. As experts of coverups,they wish to remain so. DON"T BE FRIGHTENED JUST www.google.ca/amp/s/amp.smh.com.au/politics/federal/churches-charities-will-be-judged-harshly-if-they-don-t-join-redress-scheme-turnbull-20180309-p4z3mm.htmlIf they don't, he said, they will be "judged very harshly." "If a church or a charity or institution doesn't sign up, I hope they will be shamed and we will be using the megaphones we have to encourage them to sign up," Mr Turnbull told reporters in Sydney on Friday. "If they don't they will fail the test of justice and they will fail the people they seek to represent."amp.smh.com.au/politics/federal/churches-charities-will-be-judged-harshly-if-they-don-t-join-redress-scheme-turnbull-20180309-p4z3mm.html Malcolm Turnbull wants institutions and charities to be shamed if they refuse to join the national redress scheme for child sex abuse survivors.....would be very surprised if we don't get the non-government institutions on board," Mr Tehan told ABC radio. "I would say you have a moral responsibility to join this scheme."
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Post by snow on Jul 1, 2018 12:14:20 GMT -5
I agree that it has to be done right. There needs to be a system that makes sure the people that need help get it and a system that gets the money to do that. But there also needs to be a system that weeds out those who are capable of working and just want a free ride. It will never be 100% effective, some will get a free ride, but if we don't do something to help those who really do need it, we aren't much of a civilization imo. This is where it becomes tricky: people take the nanny state for granted. "No need to save for my own home, the government will give me a home". "No need for health insurance, the government will pay for my health needs". "No need to save for retirement, the government will give me a pension". "No need to save for nursing home care, the government will pay for it". It gets even worse with some people... "No need to study or work, the government will provide for my needs". In a free country, what should be done for those who don't want to work? Yes, some people think that way. That's why there needs to be a system in place to minimize it. But I think most people want more from life than what the government can give them. They want to work for what they get. I know I do. It would be a very last resort for me to go to the government to get everything.
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Post by fixit on Jul 1, 2018 15:38:50 GMT -5
This is where it becomes tricky: people take the nanny state for granted. "No need to save for my own home, the government will give me a home". "No need for health insurance, the government will pay for my health needs". "No need to save for retirement, the government will give me a pension". "No need to save for nursing home care, the government will pay for it". It gets even worse with some people... "No need to study or work, the government will provide for my needs". In a free country, what should be done for those who don't want to work? Yes, some people think that way. That's why there needs to be a system in place to minimize it. But I think most people want more from life than what the government can give them. They want to work for what they get. I know I do. It would be a very last resort for me to go to the government to get everything. Our previous centre-right government took a "social investment" approach: "Social investment is based on an idea that Government spending should be judged on its ability to avoid further Government spending down the track.
By drilling down to the individual level, Government departments applying the investment approach were able to identify those who were at risk of slipping deeper through the cracks and invest early."It was working well but our current coalition of the left is ideologically opposed. The quote in blue was from www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/98623631/new-government-puts-social-investment-approach-for-vulnerable-kiwis-under-review
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Post by snow on Jul 2, 2018 12:09:25 GMT -5
Yes, some people think that way. That's why there needs to be a system in place to minimize it. But I think most people want more from life than what the government can give them. They want to work for what they get. I know I do. It would be a very last resort for me to go to the government to get everything. Our previous centre-right government took a "social investment" approach: "Social investment is based on an idea that Government spending should be judged on its ability to avoid further Government spending down the track.
By drilling down to the individual level, Government departments applying the investment approach were able to identify those who were at risk of slipping deeper through the cracks and invest early."It was working well but our current coalition of the left is ideologically opposed. The quote in blue was from www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/98623631/new-government-puts-social-investment-approach-for-vulnerable-kiwis-under-review Imo, we do need to do more research into how to make it work. There are many that truly need help from somewhere and it should be something that we can do as a nation. The current system in our country isn't working overly well. However, it's better than it was 100 years ago when there were no programs to help anyone in need. Hopefully we can figure out a way to make it work for everyone.
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Post by magpie on Jul 5, 2018 23:40:11 GMT -5
Lovely lady next door showed us a lovely "Get Better" card. Our instant reaction,is George not well.. No, she replied,"He is not sick, but he certainly could be a lot better"
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Post by Deleted on Aug 9, 2018 16:16:26 GMT -5
You will never speak to anyone more than you speak to yourself in your head. Be kind to yourself.
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Post by snow on Aug 9, 2018 17:42:21 GMT -5
You will never speak to anyone more than you speak to yourself in your head. Be kind to yourself. That is far harder than being nice to others. We know what we think and it's hard to justify some of what we think. I guess the test is to not let negativity slip out where it can damage others. If we could be kinder to ourselves I'm sure we could be kinder to others. Judging ourselves often spills over into judging others too. The other day I got a good reminder of how different others can view us compared to how we view ourselves. Something my daughter didn't like about herself proved to be something her one son loved about her and he was quite upset when she changed it. Many times the things we don't like about ourselves for one reason or the other just happen to be the very reason someone else likes us. Like you said 'be kind to yourself'.
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Post by magpie1 on Aug 9, 2018 21:04:43 GMT -5
Thanks, listened to it again this AM. Here is one I love, Stuart Townend,"Behold the Lamb"". (Hope this will find it) . www.youtube.com/watch?v=ACHPwx7EGQA. PS, Snow,some of my family still call me Snow,very blond as a kid,now I am snowy again.
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Post by snow on Aug 12, 2018 14:35:18 GMT -5
Thanks, listened to it again this AM. Here is one I love, Stuart Townend,"Behold the Lamb"". (Hope this will find it) . www.youtube.com/watch?v=ACHPwx7EGQA. PS, Snow,some of my family still call me Snow,very blond as a kid,now I am snowy again. I was kind of snowy as a kid too. Little darker now, but the snowy is going to come again soon!
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Post by magpie1 on Aug 12, 2018 18:58:29 GMT -5
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Post by magpie1 on Aug 12, 2018 19:00:56 GMT -5
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Post by magpie1 on Aug 13, 2018 2:24:42 GMT -5
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Post by magpie1 on Aug 17, 2018 2:12:41 GMT -5
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Post by speak on Aug 17, 2018 3:14:50 GMT -5
You will never speak to anyone more than you speak to yourself in your head. Be kind to yourself. I just love it when you wish to communicate with me
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Post by Deleted on Oct 24, 2018 1:20:08 GMT -5
“There comes a time in your life, when you walk away from all the drama and people who create it. You surround yourself with people who make you laugh. Forget the bad and focus on the good. Love the people who treat you right, pray for the ones who do not. Life is too short to be anything but happy. Falling down is a part of life, getting back up is living.”
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Post by Deleted on Nov 4, 2018 14:59:10 GMT -5
Recently I attended a funeral of a Catholic mate of mine. During the Mass a lady sang " Here I am Lord". Wonderful hymn, worth listening to. youtu.be/EcxOkht8w7c
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Post by magpie1 on Nov 4, 2018 17:14:01 GMT -5
Yes Catholic Funeral I first heard that. Fantastic... See Ya ,Magpie (WE LOST THE GRAND FINAL AGAIN)
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Post by slowtosee on Nov 4, 2018 17:39:22 GMT -5
m.youtube.com/watch?v=PFCekeoSTwgOur Remembrance Day coming up here in Canada . Song about australian here Not a hymn , but some good lessons andcremembrances in this song . Alvib
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Post by Deleted on Nov 4, 2018 19:18:09 GMT -5
Thanks for that Slowtosee, a bit of a tear jerker that one, especially for us 80 year olds. I think of a professing man, George Johnson who survived Gallipoli,France, etc. He was a humble man, had no family, never married. He lived with us in his final years back in the 1940's. As kids we called him Uncle George. The only problem was he liked to cook. He would make a big batch of dough with plain floor, and that would make scones, dumplings, and pastry for apple pie. It was all a bit heavy on our little tummies, we never came back for seconds. He was a very kind, compassionate man. Will remember him and his mates on Remembrance Day.
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Post by magpie1 on Nov 21, 2018 16:59:39 GMT -5
It is time to give a large "Wrap" to our regular Australian Correspondant "Redback". A little background first. His Mum was a Professor of Arachnology,so she names her three boys after three of Australias deadliest Spiders. They are Funnel Web, Trapdoor and of course "Redback".They all grew up as decent men,not one you would have to say was "creepy crawly"as their names may be. So here we go. Raise your glass,"heres to REDBACK" www.youtube.com/watch?v=TjDAiq2-xeU .. www.youtube.com/watch?v=3vNERsyfqVw . Spoken by his Ol'school mate Magpie.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 21, 2018 18:01:05 GMT -5
Thanks Magpie, given up toilet seats, too draughty. Prefer a comfortable bed now. Also many of my mistakes have come back to bite me on the bum. Now one for you, enjoy: youtu.be/HG2z3fkVqpQ
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