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Post by snow on Mar 28, 2020 13:42:27 GMT -5
Yes I am. And so are you. It's important to make sure that the readers also hear two different views on the subject. But I would like to hear how what you think about those who are supposed to be part of those 'thinning the herd' testing positive themselves. And, how are these people that are supposedly thinning the herd keeping from getting it themselves? The virus jumped species and within 2 weeks mutated again in the new human host. It has continued to mutate so fast that it is so hard to pin down a vaccine is a big challenge. So how are these 'people' going to keep it from infecting them? I am going to answer your question on general board, ok.Okay, but this board is fine as it's not the main board. It's the workers board.
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Post by nathan on Mar 28, 2020 13:59:24 GMT -5
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Post by fixit on Apr 2, 2020 17:25:31 GMT -5
Nate, TMB is mainly for subjects closely or sometimes vaguely related to the F&W fellowship. Other topics often survive by the grace of the moderators (or because we don't discover them). This whole thread is largely unrelated to what TMB is or should be about. Before we remove it, I am happy to give you and any others opportunity to express views on whether it should stay or be removed. And if the latter, to give you time to copy it elsewhere. My inclination is that it should be on some other forum not TMB. But happy to be guided by views of others. admin This thread should be removed. No doubt about it.
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Post by nathan on Apr 2, 2020 17:58:57 GMT -5
Nate, TMB is mainly for subjects closely or sometimes vaguely related to the F&W fellowship. Other topics often survive by the grace of the moderators (or because we don't discover them). This whole thread is largely unrelated to what TMB is or should be about. Before we remove it, I am happy to give you and any others opportunity to express views on whether it should stay or be removed. And if the latter, to give you time to copy it elsewhere. My inclination is that it should be on some other forum not TMB. But happy to be guided by views of others. admin This thread should be removed. No doubt about it. You sneaky 2x2/church elder. That post the Adm. wrote it concerning things were posting on the Truth main page! back in August 2017... This thread was started after August the Adm. removed it from the main board to this Workers and Ex-workers board for me so, you and those like you leave me alone and can't get me banned from posting. Leave the main board alone for 2x2s topics mostly and I respect the Adm. request but you have NOT.
This thread which you want to REMOVE, was made/created on the Workers and Ex-workers board for me by the Administrator so, I can copy and paste 2x2 history, discussing my forbidden subjects like Hollow earth, Jesus lives inside the planet Venus, Frank stranges and so on .... so people like you can't get me banned from posting these things on the main Truth message board! And NOW, you want the Administrator to go back his words? Wow! you are quite a piece of work there, fixit.
You succeeded for getting me NOT to post these things on the Main board, fixit. This is NOT the TRUTH main board, fixit. Nice try but no cigar for you. I can replies the readers without people like you get me in trouble with your agenda getting people banned from posting against your anti-trinity views and Jesus lives inside Venus planet and other subjects which you call science fiction, myths that you don't believe and like.
I believe you should be removed for getting people banned from posting because it doesn't agree with your own belief, and all the troubles which you have caused on TMB for years.
1) Reborn/2x2 wrote: Here is some truth- Fixit/2x2 church elder has his own little AGENDA of OFF-ing people that are his true brothers or sisters in Christ by judging they have incorrect dogma. Speak stands by and says nothing of the murderous spiritual intent there. No true brothers there. This has run parallel in this post pretty much the entire time. I brought it up yesterday because he would like to dispose of those whom he disagrees with. Here in the US this has happened to some, and quite frankly it is ugly. Thankful that my God will not let me go.
2) Openingact123 wrote: I think she should look up some of the old threads where a senior worker (probably soon to be overseer) severely denounced fixit. Do you think you know better than a worker? On the other hand, Nathan and Wally have NEVER been condemned by ANY workers on here. They have been wonderful examples of what it means to be professing and the spirit of what I've always found among professing people, while others seek to change God's perfect way in the earth.
Now speak/2x2 church elder has also turned against the workers and allied himself with fixit. "Expel the wicked person from among you.” 1 Corinthians 5.
Apr 10, 2017 at 8:02pm @review005/2x2 worker said:
Fixit/2x2 church elder, Hand it to you, you know the Scriptures, that is commendable. Your life and posts cause this Scripture to come to mind: "Saying, The scribes and the Pharisees sit in Moses’ seat: All therefore whatsoever they bid you observe, that observe and do; but do not ye after their works: for they say, and do not."
Apr 10, 2017 at 9:33pm @review005 said: It wasn't lightly or rashly I made that posting. It is made on the basis of observance and exposure to your postings over a long period of time. It is a sincere and honest statement of how I observe that you live..You love quoting Scripture to others but I am unable to see evidence of you applying it in your own life.
Oct 12, 2014 at 11:17am @review005 said: Why do you make thousands of posts over many years online but refuse a sincere genuine offer to meet worker/s whom you describe as 'good' or 'I have no problem with' to discuss your concerns? Or would you meet and discuss with parents who had children live and study in your city and who have spoken to me of their sorrow and disappointment of the influence you had upon their children while they were there? Please don't doubt that they would meet and discuss. No of course you won't...but you'll continue your anonymous daily online posting existence..... your life, your way, your reaping.
Oct 12, 2014 at 1:44pm @review005 said: I have told you I am 100% ready to arrange a meeting with these parents. I would not post such unless it is fact. As I said I'm talking about concerns that I did not solicit nor seek for. In sadness they were shared by parents who have a love for the soul of their child. I knew nothing of you in real life or JO/ fixit TMB online life at the time.
Apr 11, 2017 at 1:52am @review005 said: I have utmost respect for 99% of our elders. I have little respect for a man who is a smiling obsequious elder on Sunday morning and around the workers. Then takes his tie and suit jacket off, puts on his poster cloak on and posts in the manner that he does here. Yes I consider that to be hypocrisy. My sincere wish is that our kind, merciful and patient Heavenly Father will be able to help him before he gets too much older & beyond it.
Dec 23, 2016 at 5:05pm @review005 said: I no longer response to fixit's baiting here; let him do as much as he wishes. Interestingly this 'resident' Sunday morning meeting elder is just the short smiley 'compliant' 'obliging' 'chap with the sisters in his field. no baiting there. Too scared I guess?? Doesn't want to 'spoil his testimony'. It's when he puts his partly anonymous 'fixit' jacket on that he gets a bit of 'dutch courage'!
Jun 11, 2015 at 8:54pm @review005 said: Fixit, I suggest you look through the last 150 posts you have made before you cast ad hominem attack stones. Your hypocrisy astounds me! Then the man who has posted over 12000 posts and refuses to address matters in real life makes accusations of me avoiding real issues! That really is the icing on the cake! Now please post again and fire another stone my way. Having the last word will leave you feeling fulfilled and happy. I'll gladly have dialogue and discussion with you if you ever have the moral character and backbone to discuss real issues in real life. Tired of this meaningless TMB online game you play.
Oct 22, 2014 at 12:02pm @review005 said: You anonymously post for 20 years bold and often outrageous statements (and yes I can substantiate that also) but refuse to even meet your field workers or Alan (whom you describe as 'good' 'no problem with') to discuss 'concerns' you have. Until the anonymous online persona meets the real life elder persona the confidence crisis will remain for me. Real things get dealt with in real life face to face meetings. When that fails people come to TMB. You refuse to have real life meetings and rather post boldly and anonymously on TMB. This is the cause of my lack of confidence and reason to feel you do little more than play games in coming to TMB.
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Post by Roselyn T on Apr 2, 2020 18:41:54 GMT -5
This thread should be removed. No doubt about it. You sneaky 2x2/church elder. That post the Adm. wrote it concerning things were posting on the Truth main page! back in August 2017... This thread was started after August the Adm. removed it from the main board to this Workers and Ex-workers board for me so, you and those like you leave me alone and can't get me banned from posting. Leave the main board alone for 2x2s topics mostly and I respect the Adm. request but you have NOT.
This thread which you want to REMOVE, was made/created on the Workers and Ex-workers board for me by the Administrator so, I can copy and paste 2x2 history, discussing my forbidden subjects like Hollow earth, Jesus lives inside the planet Venus, Frank stranges and so on .... so people like you can't get me banned from posting these things on the main Truth message board! And NOW, you want the Administrator to go back his words? Wow! you are quite a piece of work there, fixit.
You succeeded for getting me NOT to post these things on the Main board, fixit. This is NOT the TRUTH main board, fixit. Nice try but no cigar for you. I can replies the readers without people like you get me in trouble with your agenda getting people banned from posting against your anti-trinity views and Jesus lives inside Venus planet and other subjects which you call science fiction, myths that you don't believe and like.
I believe you should be removed for getting people banned from posting because it doesn't agree with your own belief, and all the troubles which you have caused on TMB for years.
1) Reborn/2x2 wrote: Here is some truth- Fixit/2x2 church elder has his own little AGENDA of OFF-ing people that are his true brothers or sisters in Christ by judging they have incorrect dogma. Speak stands by and says nothing of the murderous spiritual intent there. No true brothers there. This has run parallel in this post pretty much the entire time. I brought it up yesterday because he would like to dispose of those whom he disagrees with. Here in the US this has happened to some, and quite frankly it is ugly. Thankful that my God will not let me go.
2) Openingact123 wrote: I think she should look up some of the old threads where a senior worker (probably soon to be overseer) severely denounced fixit. Do you think you know better than a worker? On the other hand, Nathan and Wally have NEVER been condemned by ANY workers on here. They have been wonderful examples of what it means to be professing and the spirit of what I've always found among professing people, while others seek to change God's perfect way in the earth.
Now speak/2x2 church elder has also turned against the workers and allied himself with fixit. "Expel the wicked person from among you.” 1 Corinthians 5.
Apr 10, 2017 at 8:02pm @review005/2x2 worker said:
Fixit/2x2 church elder, Hand it to you, you know the Scriptures, that is commendable. Your life and posts cause this Scripture to come to mind: "Saying, The scribes and the Pharisees sit in Moses’ seat: All therefore whatsoever they bid you observe, that observe and do; but do not ye after their works: for they say, and do not."
Apr 10, 2017 at 9:33pm @review005 said: It wasn't lightly or rashly I made that posting. It is made on the basis of observance and exposure to your postings over a long period of time. It is a sincere and honest statement of how I observe that you live..You love quoting Scripture to others but I am unable to see evidence of you applying it in your own life.
Oct 12, 2014 at 11:17am @review005 said: Why do you make thousands of posts over many years online but refuse a sincere genuine offer to meet worker/s whom you describe as 'good' or 'I have no problem with' to discuss your concerns? Or would you meet and discuss with parents who had children live and study in your city and who have spoken to me of their sorrow and disappointment of the influence you had upon their children while they were there? Please don't doubt that they would meet and discuss. No of course you won't...but you'll continue your anonymous daily online posting existence..... your life, your way, your reaping.
Oct 12, 2014 at 1:44pm @review005 said: I have told you I am 100% ready to arrange a meeting with these parents. I would not post such unless it is fact. As I said I'm talking about concerns that I did not solicit nor seek for. In sadness they were shared by parents who have a love for the soul of their child. I knew nothing of you in real life or JO/ fixit TMB online life at the time.
Apr 11, 2017 at 1:52am @review005 said: I have utmost respect for 99% of our elders. I have little respect for a man who is a smiling obsequious elder on Sunday morning and around the workers. Then takes his tie and suit jacket off, puts on his poster cloak on and posts in the manner that he does here. Yes I consider that to be hypocrisy. My sincere wish is that our kind, merciful and patient Heavenly Father will be able to help him before he gets too much older & beyond it.
Dec 23, 2016 at 5:05pm @review005 said: I no longer response to fixit's baiting here; let him do as much as he wishes. Interestingly this 'resident' Sunday morning meeting elder is just the short smiley 'compliant' 'obliging' 'chap with the sisters in his field. no baiting there. Too scared I guess?? Doesn't want to 'spoil his testimony'. It's when he puts his partly anonymous 'fixit' jacket on that he gets a bit of 'dutch courage'!
Jun 11, 2015 at 8:54pm @review005 said: Fixit, I suggest you look through the last 150 posts you have made before you cast ad hominem attack stones. Your hypocrisy astounds me! Then the man who has posted over 12000 posts and refuses to address matters in real life makes accusations of me avoiding real issues! That really is the icing on the cake! Now please post again and fire another stone my way. Having the last word will leave you feeling fulfilled and happy. I'll gladly have dialogue and discussion with you if you ever have the moral character and backbone to discuss real issues in real life. Tired of this meaningless TMB online game you play.
Oct 22, 2014 at 12:02pm @review005 said: You anonymously post for 20 years bold and often outrageous statements (and yes I can substantiate that also) but refuse to even meet your field workers or Alan (whom you describe as 'good' 'no problem with') to discuss 'concerns' you have. Until the anonymous online persona meets the real life elder persona the confidence crisis will remain for me. Real things get dealt with in real life face to face meetings. When that fails people come to TMB. You refuse to have real life meetings and rather post boldly and anonymously on TMB. This is the cause of my lack of confidence and reason to feel you do little more than play games in coming to TMB.
Showing your true colours nathan !! I agree with fixit, why should you have a thread of your own to copy and paste what suits you to make others look bad and "promote yourself" ? Your views are not even held by your own church.
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Post by curlywurlysammagee on Apr 2, 2020 19:19:40 GMT -5
Give it a rest nathan ! You do not represent the F&Ws church, your views are not held by the F&Ws so go start your own church. TMB is my own church for over 20 yrs, you didn't know that? I Let them pick and pick for 20 yrs, the more they pick they give me more opportunity to share/post more information.
I give the readers advance courses/classes on the 21st century church history, current events for 20 yrs. It is NOT for the fainted of hearts courses or for beginners.
I am pretty much done now with my classes here on TMB, time to wrap it up and go home/Venus and be with my Savior Christ Jesus and His people. My mission is almost done here on earth, just waiting for the time to go home, I have done my part. There is no such thing as a hollow planet. You have never been able to show verifiable evidence of your claims about this. And when this is pointed out to you, you start threatening people. That is disgusting behaviour. Furthermore TMB is not yours, you are just one of many members. I can only think that ADMIN allows you to stay because you are a draw card which then attracts advertising. If that is the case I certainly don't agree with allowing you to debase the forum with your fantasies just so it will draw the advertisers in.
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TMB is my own church for over 20 yrs, you didn't know that? I Let them pick and pick for 20 yrs, the more they pick they give me more opportunity to share/post more information.
I give the readers advance courses/classes on the 21st century church history, current events for 20 yrs. It is NOT for the fainted of hearts courses or for beginners.
I am pretty much done now with my classes here on TMB, time to wrap it up and go home/Venus and be with my Savior Christ Jesus and His people. My mission is almost done here on earth, just waiting for the time to go home, I have done my part. There is no such thing as a hollow planet. You have never been able to show verifiable evidence of your claims about this. And when this is pointed out to you, you start threatening people. That is disgusting behaviour. Furthermore TMB is not yours, you are just one of many members. I can only think that ADMIN allows you to stay because you are a draw card which then attracts advertising. If that is the case I certainly don't agree with allowing you to debase the forum with your fantasies just so it will draw the advertisers in. i don't see any ads that reflect what nathan posts, do you?
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Post by curlywurlysammagee on Apr 2, 2020 20:21:24 GMT -5
There is no such thing as a hollow planet. You have never been able to show verifiable evidence of your claims about this. And when this is pointed out to you, you start threatening people. That is disgusting behaviour. Furthermore TMB is not yours, you are just one of many members. I can only think that ADMIN allows you to stay because you are a draw card which then attracts advertising. If that is the case I certainly don't agree with allowing you to debase the forum with your fantasies just so it will draw the advertisers in. i don't see any ads that reflect what nathan posts, do you? Did I say that? Do you know how media works?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 2, 2020 20:23:47 GMT -5
i don't see any ads that reflect what nathan posts, do you? Did I say that? Do you know how media works? generally ads reflect what people are searching on or about or talking about, your suggesting an individual has an affect on the ads...do you understand how it all works?
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Post by curlywurlysammagee on Apr 2, 2020 20:35:46 GMT -5
Did I say that? Do you know how media works? generally ads reflect what people are searching on or about or talking about, your suggesting an individual has an affect on the ads...do you understand how it all works? Yes I do, the adverts generally reflect what the individual is searching for online. For instance if I look at an online bible store or geology books then sure as day follows night an advert for something along those lines will pop up. Further the adverts are directed at sites where there is good exposure. That is determined by the number of viewers and clickers on a site. That's my understanding. Nathan is a big draw card for advertisers. The admin need to close him down.
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Post by nathan on Apr 3, 2020 9:35:26 GMT -5
Satan DOES NOT Want You To Know That His Time Is Short Revelation 12:12 Therefore rejoice, ye heavens and ye that dwell in them, Woe to the inhabitants of the earth and of the sea! for the devil is come down unto you, having great wrath, because he knoweth that he hath but a short time. Six Things Satan Doesn’t Want You To Know About Himself ... 1. Satan DOES NOT Want You To Know That He Exists
2. Satan DOES NOT Want You To Know How He Operates 3. Satan DOES NOT Want You to Know that He Can’t Be Everywhere At Once 4. Satan DOES NOT Want You To Know That His Time Is Short
5. Satan DOES NOT Want You To Know He Was Defeated 6. Satan DOES NOT Want You To Know That You Have Authority Over Him agapegeek.com/2009/11/01/six-things-satan-doesnt-want-you-to-know-about-himself/Apr 3, 2020 3:26:25 GMT -7 iam said: It was the chief priests... aka overseers, the authority that the people in Jesus's day had the highest respect and admiration for, that hated Jesus because he dared to disagree with them. He came to his own and his own received him not...no wonder. Jesus Christ the same yesterday and today and forever. ~~ Nathan wrote: Amen, iam. Jesus and his apostles had warned us about these people, and Jesus church elders and believers teaching false doctrines to cause trouble for the ministry and within the churches through the centuries and is still happening in our days also and it's manifest here on this board to those who so call 2x2 church elders and 2x2s.
1) Paul addressed and warned about Jesus church elders in Acts 20:1; 28-30 Take heed therefore unto yourselves, and to all the flock, over the which the Holy Ghost hath made you overseers, to feed the church of God, which he hath purchased with his own blood. For I know this, that after my departing shall grievous wolves enter in among you, not sparing the flock. Also of your own selves shall men arise, speaking perverse things, to draw away disciples after them.2) John the apostle wrote about bad and good church elder in 3 John 9-12 I wrote unto the church: but Diotrephes, who loveth to have the preeminence among them, receiveth us not. Wherefore, if I come, I will remember his deeds which he doeth, prating against us with malicious words: and not content therewith, neither doth he himself receive the brethren, and forbiddeth them that would, and casteth them out of the church. Beloved, follow not that which is evil, but that which is good. He that doeth good is of God: but he that doeth evil hath not seen God. Demetrius hath good report of all men, and of the truth itself: yea, and we also bear record; and ye know that our record is true. 3) Peter wrote in 2 Peter 2: 1-4 But there were false prophets also among the people, even as there shall be false teachers among you, who privily shall bring in damnable heresies, even denying the Lord that bought them, and bring upon themselves swift destruction. And many shall follow their pernicious ways; by reason of whom the way of truth shall be evil spoken of. And through covetousness shall they with feigned words make merchandise of you: whose judgment now of a long time lingereth not, and their damnation slumbereth not. For if God spared not the angels that sinned, but cast them down to hell, and delivered them into chains of darkness, to be reserved unto judgment.The anti-truth and Way of Jesus Can't destroy His Truth and Way on earth. This was foretold by Jesus, His apostles and others through the centuries, where the RCC and many Protestant denomination and the ex-2x2 have tried to destroy from the face of the earth and they have failed for 2000 years.
Jesus said to Peter and the apostles in Matthew 16:18 "And I say also unto thee, That thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it."Jesus said Satan and his evil children on earth can't destroy His TRUE church on earth! History has proven Satan and his evil children tried for 2000 yrs and failed... I don't think Corona Virus can't destroy Christ's Truth and Way on earth. Acts 5: 34 Then stood there up one in the council, a Pharisee, named Gamaliel, a doctor of the law, had in reputation among all the people, and commanded to put the apostles forth a little space; And said unto them, Ye men of Israel, take heed to yourselves what ye intend to do as touching these men. For before these days rose up Theudas, boasting himself to be somebody; to whom a number of men, about four hundred, joined themselves: who was slain; and all, as many as obeyed him, were scattered, and brought to nought. After this man rose up Judas of Galilee in the days of the taxing, and drew away much people after him: he also perished; and all, even as many as obeyed him, were dispersed. And now I say unto you, Refrain from these men, and let them alone: for if this counsel or this work be of men, it will come to nought: But if it be of God, ye cannot overthrow it; lest haply ye be found even to fight against God.Paul wrote 2 Corinthians 13:8 For we cannot do anything against the truth, but only for the truth.
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Post by Roselyn T on Apr 3, 2020 9:57:53 GMT -5
Satan DOES NOT Want You To Know That His Time Is Short Revelation 12:12 Therefore rejoice, ye heavens and ye that dwell in them, Woe to the inhabitants of the earth and of the sea! for the devil is come down unto you, having great wrath, because he knoweth that he hath but a short time. Six Things Satan Doesn’t Want You To Know About Himself ... 1. Satan DOES NOT Want You To Know That He Exists
2. Satan DOES NOT Want You To Know How He Operates 3. Satan DOES NOT Want You to Know that He Can’t Be Everywhere At Once 4. Satan DOES NOT Want You To Know That His Time Is Short
5. Satan DOES NOT Want You To Know He Was Defeated 6. Satan DOES NOT Want You To Know That You Have Authority Over Him agapegeek.com/2009/11/01/six-things-satan-doesnt-want-you-to-know-about-himself/Apr 3, 2020 3:26:25 GMT -7 iam said: It was the chief priests... aka overseers, the authority that the people in Jesus's day had the highest respect and admiration for, that hated Jesus because he dared to disagree with them. He came to his own and his own received him not...no wonder. Jesus Christ the same yesterday and today and forever. ~~ Nathan wrote: Amen, iam. Jesus and his apostles had warned us about these people, and Jesus church elders and believers teaching false doctrines to cause trouble for the ministry and within the churches through the centuries and is still happening in our days also and it's manifest here on this board to those who so call 2x2 church elders and 2x2s.
1) Paul addressed and warned about Jesus church elders in Acts 20:1; 28-30 Take heed therefore unto yourselves, and to all the flock, over the which the Holy Ghost hath made you overseers, to feed the church of God, which he hath purchased with his own blood. For I know this, that after my departing shall grievous wolves enter in among you, not sparing the flock. Also of your own selves shall men arise, speaking perverse things, to draw away disciples after them.2) John the apostle wrote about bad and good church elder in 3 John 9-12 I wrote unto the church: but Diotrephes, who loveth to have the preeminence among them, receiveth us not. Wherefore, if I come, I will remember his deeds which he doeth, prating against us with malicious words: and not content therewith, neither doth he himself receive the brethren, and forbiddeth them that would, and casteth them out of the church. Beloved, follow not that which is evil, but that which is good. He that doeth good is of God: but he that doeth evil hath not seen God. Demetrius hath good report of all men, and of the truth itself: yea, and we also bear record; and ye know that our record is true. 3) Peter wrote in 2 Peter 2: 1-4 But there were false prophets also among the people, even as there shall be false teachers among you, who privily shall bring in damnable heresies, even denying the Lord that bought them, and bring upon themselves swift destruction. And many shall follow their pernicious ways; by reason of whom the way of truth shall be evil spoken of. And through covetousness shall they with feigned words make merchandise of you: whose judgment now of a long time lingereth not, and their damnation slumbereth not. For if God spared not the angels that sinned, but cast them down to hell, and delivered them into chains of darkness, to be reserved unto judgment.Are you referring to yourself in this post about teaching "false doctrine" to those in your church nathan ? Maybe take your own advice and stop promoting rubbish like JC lives in Venus !
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Post by nathan on Apr 5, 2020 9:38:18 GMT -5
Mar 30, 2020 redback said: Why, it is an insult, no need for it. We should be trying to unite not divide. My dear Dad used to often mention this verse, he had a good attitude toward others.
Mark 9:38-41 Whoever Is Not Against Us Is for Us. “Teacher,” said John, “we saw someone driving out demons in your name and we told him to stop, because he was not one of us.” “Do not stop him,” Jesus said. “For no one who does a miracle in my name can in the next moment say anything bad about me, 40 for whoever is not against us is for us. Truly I tell you, anyone who gives you a cup of water in my name because you belong to the Messiah will certainly not lose their reward.
1) wally said: I agree with those verses, as i am not entirely exclusive that doesn't change anything though insults are gonna fly between churches worldly or not....and there are more of them than 2x2's....
~~ Nathan wrote: Jesus was talking to the apostles that do NOT forbid the followers of Jesus to STOP them from sharing the gospel with others, and casting out demons out of people, for he is with us.
When I was in the work many workers tell the friends NOT to preach the gospel to non-2x2s but they should bring them to the gospel meetings, and let the experts/worker teach them.... That is NOT according to Jesus teachings! Apostles/workers and the friends are to teach and share the gospel to ALL, NOT only the workers/apostles responsibility.
Paul wrote in Eph. 4:11-14 The workers/apostles are to teach the friends how to be sowers, teachers, evangelists, and pastors to care for the lambs and sheep of God. So, they too can be LIVING WITNESSES for Christ to be as lights and salt in this dark world. There are too few of workers to scatter the seeds to all the world, they need the friends/followers of Jesus to help in spreading the gospel to all nations.
Jesus said it again Jesus Matthew 7:13-23 Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat: Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it. Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves.
16 Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles? Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit. A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit. Every tree that bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire. Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them.
Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven. Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works? And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.
~~ We point people to follow Jesus teachings explicitly and leave those who do NOT follow his teachings to God and for Him to decide who is SAVED or NOT saved.
Jesus said in Matthew 13: 14-15 “Every plant that My heavenly Father has not planted will be pulled up by its roots. Disregard them! They are blind guides. If a blind man leads a blind man, both will fall into a pit.” The Lord Jesus said “He that is not with me is against me” (Luke 11:23).
New International Version Leave them; they are blind guides. If the blind lead the blind, both will fall into a pit."
New Living Translation so ignore them. They are blind guides leading the blind, and if one blind person guides another, they will both fall into a ditch.”
English Standard Version Let them alone; they are blind guides. And if the blind lead the blind, both will fall into a pit.”
Berean Study Bible Disregard them! They are blind guides. If a blind man leads a blind man, both will fall into a pit.”
Jesus said in Matthew 12:30-31 He that is not with me is against me; and he that gathereth not with me scattereth abroad. Wherefore I say unto you, All manner of sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven unto men: but the blasphemy against the Holy Ghost shall not be forgiven unto men."
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Post by nathan on Apr 7, 2020 23:14:36 GMT -5
1) What is the MARK of the Beast?
3/7/20 nathan said: Those who are NOT born again, have the mark of the beast on their foreheads/minds= 666. The beasts are all types of governments, which rule in the world. The WHOLE world is under Satan and his evil children control. Rev. 12:7-9 And there was war in heaven: Michael and his angels fought against the dragon; and the dragon fought and his angels, And prevailed not; neither was their place found any more in heaven. And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.We/humans are under the control of the Illuminati/elites= Children of the Evil one/Satan... the Rulers of this planet earth/the world gov't, education system, Media/News, banking, religions, entertainment, etc.. control. We are theirs slaves and must do and obey them to LIVE to disobey them is death, like Pharaoh of the Old Testament days. Time has NOT changed at all....These Illuminati are theirs descendants... They are rulers/Pharaoh of this planet earth. Amir Tsarfati: The Illuminati= Luciferians/Satanists and the One World Government. Their agenda is to reduce the world population from 7 Billions people down to 500 millions people through wars, pollution, cancers, deadly viruses, and so on listen at 46 min. at the below video.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=tft9T32BNgc2) iam wrote: I read on the internet that the number 6 is the letter w in the Hebrew alphabet, therefore 666=www. Is that fake news?~~ Nathan: Yep, that is fake news. Answer: The main passage in the Bible that mentions the “mark of the beast” is Revelation 13:15-18. Other references can be found in Revelation 14:9, 11, 15:2, 16:2, 19:20, and 20:4. T his mark acts as a seal for the followers of Antichrist and the false prophet (the spokesperson for the Antichrist). The false prophet (the second beast) is the one who causes people to take this mark. The mark is literally placed in the hand or forehead and is not simply a card someone carries. The recent breakthroughs in medical implant chip and RFID technologies have increased interest in the mark of the beast spoken of in Revelation chapter 13. It is possible that the technology we are seeing today represents the beginning stages of what may eventually be used as the mark of the beast. It is important to realize that a medical implant chip is not the mark of the beast. The mark of the beast will be something given only to those who worship the Antichrist. Having a medical or financial microchip inserted into your right hand or forehead is not the mark of the beast. The mark of the beast will be an end-times identification required by the Antichrist in order to buy or sell, and it will be given only to those who worship the Antichrist.
If anyone has insight, let him calculate the number of the beast, for it is man’s number. His number is 666.” Somehow, the number 666 will identify the Antichrist. www.gotquestions.org/mark-beast.htmlAccording to the last book in the Bible, 666 is the number, or name, of the wild beast with seven heads and ten horns that comes out of the sea. (Revelation 13:1, 17, 18) This beast is a symbol of the worldwide political system, which rules over “every tribe and people and tongue and nation.” (Revelation 13:7) The name 666 identifies the political system as a gross failure in God’s sight. How?The number six implies imperfection. Often, numbers are used as symbols in the Bible. Seven typically represents completeness or perfection. Six, being one short of seven, can denote something incomplete or flawed in God’s eyes, and it can be associated with God’s enemies.—1 Chronicles 20:6; Daniel 3:1. www.jw.org/en/bible-teachings/questions/what-does-666-mean/
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Post by nathan on Apr 20, 2020 9:48:46 GMT -5
Amir Tsarfati: Jesus Christ the Immanuel. Immanue means with us and El is God.www.youtube.com/watch?v=V2e2m-iedF8&list=PLWLFF5VZl4c7iEtzXu3koZ7dFC-Kh9VHb&index=16&t=0s100 verses If You've Seen Me/Jesus You've Seen God The Father www.openbible.info/topics/if_youve_seen_me_youve_seen_the_father Amir Tsarfati: Jesus the Christ in the Old Testamentwww.youtube.com/watch?v=bHf-keOlUHc&list=PLWLFF5VZl4c7iEtzXu3koZ7dFC-Kh9VHb&index=22&t=0sAmir Tsarfati: The Passover Lamb/Christ God in the Old Testament www.youtube.com/watch?v=rXbkJKQFovg&list=PLWLFF5VZl4c7iEtzXu3koZ7dFC-Kh9VHb&index=20&t=0sAmir Tsarfati: Jesus and the Christ in New Testament Passover Lamb of Godwww.youtube.com/watch?v=jWDUzjrU5iM&list=PLWLFF5VZl4c7iEtzXu3koZ7dFC-Kh9VHb&index=21&t=0sThe 18 Missing years of Jesus Christ...
Note that the information presented in this article is acquired from various sources - not strictly biblical manuscripts. The stories have been passed down through traditional documents and can not be proved as accurate. From history we learn that he was previously known as Joseph de Marmore as he lived in Marmorica in Egypt before he moved to Arimathea. There is speculation that Joseph of Arimathea, or Joseph of Glastonbury as he later became known, was the uncle of Mary, mother of Jesus. The relationship to Mary made him a Great Uncle of Jesus. From this, we may presume that he was an elderly man at the time of the crucifixion. We have few verifiable details about Joseph except that he was he was quite wealthy. Some claim that Joseph of Arimathea was a merchant in metals and took young Jesus with him on his business trips to England, India, and even to South America. It is a well documented fact that Britain led the world at this time with its tin mining. Joseph of Arimathea was referred to by the Romans as 'Nobilis Decurio' or Minister of Mines to the Roman Government. Joseph of Arimathea was not one of the original 12 apostles, but he was a disciple of Jesus and was an important man in his own right. He is mentioned in all four gospels (Matthew: 27:57-60; Mark 15:43-46; Luke 23:50-55; John 19:38-42). He was a high counselor, a voting member of the Sanhedrin2 which officially wanted Jesus condemned to death. We may speculate that he had not consented to, or agreed with, the decision to push Pontius Pilate to impose the death penalty upon Jesus. In spite of his relationship with Jesus, his loyalty to Him was largely kept secret (John 19:38). Jesus was obviously unpopular with the elders of the church, and to outwardly support Him did not bring favor in their eyes (John 19:38). www.allaboutjesuschrist.org/joseph-of-arimathea-faq.htmIsraeli Jew makes the most amazing discovery ( Jesus is the Messiah/God the Christ)! www.youtube.com/watch?v=95XaL6_stBsAwesome Bible Lands Jerusalem where Jesus born and lived Unveiled www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLWLFF5VZl4c4F-iJQQU2qSHu81zNZyu1LIsrael Unveiledwww.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLWLFF5VZl4c6uVeLm-IMQ91D0DwS7rrqkMany Amazing of 19 Videos of Jordan river, the Red Sea, Sea of Galileewww.youtube.com/watch?v=f4QZjQcwClc&list=PLWLFF5VZl4c6uVeLm-IMQ91D0DwS7rrqk Questions and Answers by Amir Tsarfati www.youtube.com/watch?v=dM8xETmA7vg&list=PLWLFF5VZl4c4-mIMLxLCK81G1mCmnmrBwAmir Tsarfati: The Book of Lifewww.youtube.com/watch?v=WnuNJ3m2UHY&list=PLWLFF5VZl4c7iEtzXu3koZ7dFC-Kh9VHb&index=17&t=0sAmir Tsarfati: The Fullness of the Gentileswww.youtube.com/watch?v=AHdm2bOfaR8&list=PLWLFF5VZl4c7iEtzXu3koZ7dFC-Kh9VHb&index=8&t=0sAmir Tsarfati: Seek Those Things Which are Above www.youtube.com/watch?v=zkcZ-246cCUAmir Tsarfati: Europe Ready for the Antichrist www.youtube.com/watch?v=jqK9fXsp92kAmir Tsarfati: The Prophetic Changes in the Middle East www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qqdn5TbzwvsAmir Tsarfati: Why Should Christians Support Israel www.youtube.com/watch?v=o8pL_CR3rlYAmir Tsarfati: Bible Lands Unveiled Greece: The Unknown God www.youtube.com/watch?v=I_hDiS5_k84Bible Lands Unveiled: Turn the World Upside Down www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZM8XxG9qAy4Amir Tsarfati: Europe Closer to the Antichrist www.youtube.com/watch?v=cvlH3l563SQAmir Tsarfati: Europe Ready for the Antichrist www.youtube.com/watch?v=jqK9fXsp92kAmir Tsarfati: Who Goes Where? www.youtube.com/watch?v=KBu3I9TOLZEAmir Tsarfati: Fear Not!www.youtube.com/watch?v=1kbfLkhKNzIAmir Tsarfati: Has God Cast Away His People?www.youtube.com/watch?v=uPe3b7PaxfEAmir Tsarfati: On the Road, But Off the Pathwww.youtube.com/watch?v=Yv-2Iw7kE54Amir Tsarfati: The Book of Revelationwww.youtube.com/watch?v=I3GuG1dYARMThe Rise of The One World Religionwww.youtube.com/watch?v=s6FWHjH5fHAAmir Tsarfati: The Great Collusionwww.youtube.com/watch?v=fLzU0RqkiOsAmir Tsarfati: How Close are we to the Mark of the Beastwww.youtube.com/watch?v=6C-6ZvMgi_MAmir Tsarfati: The Illuminati= Luciferians/Satanists and the One World Government. Their agenda is to reduce the world population from 7 Billions people down to 500 millions people through wars, pollution, cancers, deadly viruses, and so on listen at 46 min. at the below video.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=tft9T32BNgcAmir Tsarfati: The Satanic Plot to Reduce Earth's Population www.youtube.com/watch?v=SpPcgKaJ_E4Amir T. tried to WARN the WORLD on the seriousness and deadliest about to spread to the whole world from Corona Virus back in Feb.11... But they told him it was FAKE news! We wish the world had taken his information on the Corona Virus seriously back in Feb! It could have saved hundreds thousands of lives from suffering horrible pains and suffering around the world. This Virus could have come from U.S... listen... Amir has proven to be right on target... millions people are going to die listen at 37 min. of the below video. Many deadly flu Viruses will kill millions for years to come. Amir Tsarfati: Special Update: Explosion Coronavirus in Wuhan, China. 259,723 views• Feb 11, 2020www.youtube.com/watch?v=sQjMtdeknPEOver 10,000 people have died around the world! and 350,000 plus people are infected by Corona Virus and still counting by 4/6/1920
Amir Tsarfati: A Few Good Things the Coronavirus has Caused. Very comfort video... Put your faith in God and NOT in this world wealth and riches. 65,950 views• Apr 5, 2020
www.youtube.com/watch?v=V-TFwJsQaOQ
~~ Dr. Francis Boyle - Coronavirus is a Bioweapon 2/26/20. Many deadly viruses are man-made in the lab. CDC and Pharm. companies are in business with them to come up with the vaccines to make trillions of dollars from the population and Population control/Thinning the herd. Must listen! 22 minutes.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=GVtlknjTgXk
~~ Inside The US Government's Top-Secret Bioweapons Lab. It's an eye opener! history of these labs. It's an eye opener! history of these labs. 1,180,621 views• Oct 4, 2019
www.youtube.com/watch?v=f1GnYs4LOc0
To search For topics related to the U.S. biological defense program, see U.S. biological defense program. The United States had an offensive biological weapons program from 1943 until 1969. Today, the nation is a member of the Biological Weapons Convention and has renounced biological warfare.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_U.S._biological_weapons_topics
Biological warfare (BW)—also known as germ warfare—is the use of biological toxins or infectious agents such as bacteria, viruses, insects, and fungi with the intent to kill or incapacitate humans, animals or plants as an act of war. Biological weapons (often termed "bio-weapons", "biological threat agents", or "bio-agents") are living organisms or replicating entities (viruses, which are not universally considered "alive"). Entomological (insect) warfare is a subtype of BW.
Biological warfare is distinct from nuclear warfare and chemical warfare, which together with biological warfare make up NBC, the military initialism for nuclear, biological, and chemical warfare using weapons of mass destruction (WMDs). None of these are considered conventional weapons, which are deployed primarily for their explosive, kinetic, or incendiary potential.
Biological weapons may be employed in various ways to gain a strategic or tactical advantage over the enemy, either by threats or by actual deployments. Like some chemical weapons, biological weapons may also be useful as area denial weapons. These agents may be lethal or non-lethal, and may be targeted against a single individual, a group of people, or even an entire population.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biological_warfare
Coronavirus is a Biowarfare Weapon Developed by The US - Law Professor Claims Published February 5th, 2020
www.albawaba.com/news/coronavirus-biowarfare-weapon-developed-us-law-professor-claims-1337158
Evidence that coronavirus originated at Chinese lab is 'inconclusive,' top general says
The top U.S. general said evidence that the coronavirus originated at a Chinese research lab is "inconclusive," following a report that U.S. officials warned of safety concerns at a research facility in the city of Wuhan two years ago.
"We've had a lot of intelligence take a hard look at that," Joint Chiefs Chairman Gen. Mark Milley told reporters today. "At this point it's inconclusive, although the weight of the evidence seems to indicate natural. But we don’t know for certain."
www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/evidence-that-coronavirus-originated-at-chinese-lab-is-inconclusive-top-general-says/ar-BB12DazR?ocid=spartanntp
3/20/2020 A Chinese Foreign Ministry spokesman on Thursday accused the U.S. Army of sending the coronavirus to China, a charge expected to be countered by the Trump administration as disinformation.
www.washingtontimes.com/news/2020/mar/12/us-army-brought-coronavirus-wuhan-chinese-foreign-/
DUBAI, United Arab Emirates — Iran’s supreme leader refused U.S. assistance Sunday to fight the new coronavirus, citing an unfounded conspiracy theory that the virus could be man-made by America. www.politico.com/news/2020/03/22/coronavirus-iran-conspiracy-theory-141188
Director of Wuhan lab denies virus link: The director of a maximum-security laboratory in China's coronavirus ground-zero city of Wuhan has rejected claims that it could be the source of the outbreak, calling it "impossible".
www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/director-of-wuhan-lab-denies-virus-link/ar-BB12QKwl?ocid=spartanntp
Amir Tsarfati: Evil. The Absence of God What did the world look like beginning in the Garden of Eden and what will it look like in the future? Is evil connected to God? How does evil relate to believers in Christ? Is there a purpose for evil? Though this message was originally delivered a few years ago in the Philippines during the rise of the Islamic State (ISIS) www.youtube.com/watch?v=LgkdIWkhtxw
“Revelation’s Mark of the Beast Exposed” - with Evangelist Mark Finley
Some people are so afraid of it they try to avoid having a Social Security number. Others worry about the bar codes scanned at check-out stands—what could be behind it all? 3,082,044 views• Jun 4, 2018
This evangelist has a VERY good understanding who is the BEAST/A Roman Empire political power system over many nations = In the 4th century it became the Roman Catholic Church political and religious system rule over 1 Billions of believers around the world.
666= Title of the Roman emperors who later became Papacy/Pope. The 666 number of a man/ruler of religious political and religious system over the billions of people. Mark of the beast/666 on their hands and foreheads.
The seal the servants of God and his people had seal of God in their forehead/minds/worship through Jesus Christ gospel. He is off on about the Sabbath keepers as the seal of God people. Mike Finley is a Seventh Day Adventist. He got the beast/666= Rome+RCC empire political and religious system over the sea of humanity/1 billions people are correct.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=lvTL_lnN5-Q&feature=emb_rel_end
Warnings of the Last Days From God | Christian Short Film "The Days of Noah Have Come" 1,683,843 views•Jul 5, 2017
Here are the WAKE up signs! the last 15 years.... Here are the WAKE up signs! the last 15 years.... listen to a TRUE story happened in 2008 a horrific great disaster at 14 min. the modern day one of the most beautiful city of Sodom and Gomorrah in China destroyed twice with and earthquake and the next year wit a great flood within two years! Warning this will take place when Jesus returns like in the days of Noah great world wide flood.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=K0uyh2IH72w
Read Genesis chapters 17-19 on the Destruction of sinful cities of Sodom and Gomorrah.
From the Dead Sea Scroll #3 Cave #3 "The Lord (Elohim) instructed his Angels, both from the Morning and Evening Star/Venus Planet, to assist Lot and his family to escape what was to befall the Cities of Sodom and Gomorrah.
The Two Chosen ones/angels instructed Lot and his family to drape themselves in white Garments (fine linen) and run away from the cities with great haste. Then a voice came from the darkening skies from on high and the other Heavenly Messengers, also from the Morning and Evening Star who rode in their chariots of fire saying unto all of them below, "Make haste because the judgment of Almighty God is about to fall upon these cities. We are prepared to obey His Voice and point our fire-spears towards the cities of sin and destroy them according to the Divine Will of the Father. Then a white light as bright as the sun blazed behind them and the Earth did shake with a mighty roar. The elements did separate as the cities of sin were leveled to the ground. The air above the Earth was filled with destructive dust and everyone including the animals. "The smoke rose into the heaven and did cloak the ground with destruction.
Thus, the messengers, from the Stars did likewise accomplish their mission as their wheels returned to the skies where they rested with others in their home which was high above the Earth." "She who was the wife of Lot, because of her disobedience, did turn around and gaze upon the destruction. She was turned into what appeared to be the salt of the land and the deadly destructive dust that clung over the Earth did indeed cause her life to cease. The smoke and vapor from the cities rose higher and higher as the cities were laid waste in the wilderness on the plains of Zoar that morning."
Amir Tsarfati: The Coming Prince Christ/God 1st coming to earth as a man Jesus www.youtube.com/watch?v=cpZNNGcWjQE Where is the Promise of Jesus Christ coming? Amazing! www.youtube.com/watch?v=niyhP0fFz8o&list=PLWLFF5VZl4c7iEtzXu3koZ7dFC-Kh9VHb&index=23
Amir Tsarfati: The Day Approaching www.youtube.com/watch?v=PQdCP1suihY Amir Tsarfati: The Second Coming of Jesus as the Christ King of kings to rule the earth www.youtube.com/watch?v=6NXzhMjIUMMAmir Tsarfati: The Millennial Kingdom. Humans believers appear to receive the rewards/responsibilities before the judgment seat of Christ/Jesus during the 1000 yrs reign www.youtube.com/watch?v=scoG0YrgWbs87 more interesting amazing videos topics from Amir Tsarfati www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLWLFF5VZl4c7iEtzXu3koZ7dFC-Kh9VHb
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Post by nathan on May 26, 2020 20:59:33 GMT -5
5/25/20 NathanB said:
From the information which I have read the last 10 years.... God, Christ, the Holy Spirit and all of the angels whom they created live inside Venus planet is God's dwelling place heaven/Paradise/Head Quarter where The Godhead governs the trillions galaxies, with millions/billions species of intelligence beings they created to populate in the Universe.
Satan and 1/3 of the fallen angels rebelled against the Godhead and tried to take over his kingdom/our Solar system= 12 planets. A major War was fought in the heavens, two planets collided/destroyed= asteroid belt. Satan and the fallen angels lost the War and God send them to planet earth as their home and prison until the Final judgement day then they would be sentenced and cast in the Lake of fire.
6000 yrs ago, The Godhead created Adam, Eve and their children in the Garden of Eden/earth as immortal beings to RULE and REIGN with Christ in the Universe. Satan/Serpent deceived Eve into sin and they lost their immortality and became mortal beings. In Genesis 3:15 Christ had told Adam and Eve He would come down from heaven/Venus to RESTORE their immortality back so they could RULE and Reign with Him.
Jesus said to Nicodemus or all mortal beings, "Ye must be born again!" to become immortal beings like God had planned before the foundation of the world to RULE and REIGN with the Godhead throughout the planet earth and the Universe when Jesus returns as KING of kings and the LORD of lords.
~~ jesterhaiku wrote: I have some questions.
1. Isn't God kinda cramped inside that little, tiny Venus, him being so big and all?
~~ NathanB: Godhead= God the Father, Christ and Holy Spirit presence fills the Universe. However, Jesus said in John 14 in my Father's house/Venus planet there are MANY mansions. God has a place where He calls home that He, Christ and Holy Spirit run their daily operation in the Universe.
2. So was it exactly 1/3 of the angels that rebelled, as in 0.333333333333333? And maybe this isn't the correct time and place, but exactly how many angels can dance on the head of a pin? Asking for a pastor.
~~ In The book of Revelation (Rev. 5) it mentioned 10,000 x 10,000 of Holy angels surround the throne of God.... Rev. chapter 12 tells of 1/3 of the angels, include Satan rebelled against God.
3. Ummm, about the number of planets thing, are you sure? Here's a link that tells you how many planets there are in the solar system: How Many Planets are in Our Solar System? • Mathy stuff: 12 - 2 = 10
~~ Yes, there are 10 planets now! But it was 12 planets in our Solar planet to begin with... Two of the planets collided/War in heaven and it became asteroid belt. Google it.
God's # 12 means complete..... 12 months in a year; 12 Zodiac; 12 apostles; 12 tribes of Israel... 12 planets in our solar system.
4. Are you sure about your timeline re: Satan's war? I'm pretty sure Satan wasn't cast out of Heaven until Jesus died on the cross. Only the blood from that sacrifice had the power to drive Satan out of Heaven. Details provided by John the Revelator.
~~ The War in heaven between God Vs. Satan started long, long time before God created Adam and Eve in the Garden of Eden 6000 years ago.
5. Can you tell us exactly how you arrived at the 6000 number -- God creating Adam et al. 6000 years ago?
~~ Adam to Abraham is 2000 years... Abraham to Jesus Christ is another 2000 years.... Jesus to us today is another 2000= 6000 years.
6. Are you sure that God created Adam, Eve and their kids? Adam and Eve had sex after partaking of the fruit of knowledge of good and naughty bits. I know this, because Genesis 4:1 was one of my favorite verses when I was 13, even though it lacked a lot of desired, nay needed, detail.
~~ God created Adam, and Lilth, she was his first wife. God told them to multiply= children to fill the earth.... Lilth left Adam to become one of many wives of Satan. So, God created Eve out of one Adam's rib/DNA to be his wife.
7. In Genesis 3:15, it says this: "And I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and her seed; it shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heel." Not seeing anything about restoring no immorality...err, immortality ... and no ruling or reigning.
~~ Reigning and Ruling that is foretold in the gospels and the book of Revelation...
8. So who did Jesus speak to, Nicodemus or all mortal beings?
~~ NOT only to Nicodemus but to ALL mortal human beings, "YE must be BORN again!" to enter the kingdom of God. This mortal human flesh can't live forever! Only the believers resurrection bodies can live forever.
9. If we're ruling the earth and the universe, do we ever get to visit? And are we ruling those other intelligent beings? How does that happen? Are we doing that remotely?
~~ That is why Christ/Jesus/God wants to RESTORE our mortal flesh to immortality beings, which Adam and Eve had BEFORE the FALL. Satan had deceived many intelligence beings/races in the Universe as his followers NOT just the mortal beings on earth. There are many intelligence races throughout the trillions galaxies had NOT heard or KNOWN about the Yahweh God.
When Jesus returns He will give the Old and New Testament believers the New Resurrection bodies so, we can teleport to trillions galaxies to convert and help intelligence beings through out the Universe to follow Jesus Christ as their God.
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Post by curlywurlysammagee on May 27, 2020 4:08:50 GMT -5
From Nathan's post above. ~~ Yes, there are 10 planets now! But it was 12 planets in our Solar planet to begin with... Two of the planets collided/War in heaven and it became asteroid belt. Google it. This is absolute and utter rubbish Nathan. Up until 1930 there was an understanding by astronomers that there were eight planets. Then they found Pluto which made the total nine. However, there has been much discussion as to whether Pluto does fit the definition of a planet and the consensus by astronomers is that it is not a planet but an exo planet. So it's back to eight planets. For the readers. Nathan's rubbish is sourced from unreliable and dangerous sources. His information is quite often untrue and bears no resemblance to the truth. It is misleading and would suck in anyone who is of a gullible nature. Be very careful about following any of the nonsense he posts. www.space.com/16080-solar-system-planets.htm
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Post by Annan on May 27, 2020 7:05:27 GMT -5
I don't understand how Nathan can claim he is a 2x2 when they do not believe the rubbish he posts. He isn't fooling anyone but himself.
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Post by Deleted on May 27, 2020 7:17:52 GMT -5
I don't understand how Nathan can claim he is a 2x2 when they do not believe the rubbish he posts. He isn't fooling anyone but himself. if people can't hold multiple beliefs and still be a 2x2 then you agree with me you can't be a socialist/democrat/communist and a christain right?
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Post by Annan on May 27, 2020 9:06:33 GMT -5
I don't understand how Nathan can claim he is a 2x2 when they do not believe the rubbish he posts. He isn't fooling anyone but himself. if people can't hold multiple beliefs and still be a 2x2 then you agree with me you can't be a socialist/democrat/communist and a christain right? No. I do not agree with you. Are you supporting a brother simply because he is a brother?
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Post by Deleted on May 27, 2020 9:11:41 GMT -5
if people can't hold multiple beliefs and still be a 2x2 then you agree with me you can't be a socialist/democrat/communist and a christain right? No. I do not agree with you. Are you supporting a brother simply because he is a brother? well socialist/democrats/communist all spout "rubbish" all the time so its the same principle, i think your just being stubborn and do agree with me... never said anything about supporting nathan....
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Post by Annan on May 27, 2020 9:14:22 GMT -5
No. I do not agree with you. Are you supporting a brother simply because he is a brother? well socialist/democrats/communist all spout "rubbish" all the time so its the same principle, i think your just being stubborn and do agree with me... never said anything about supporting nathan.... Believe what you want. I'm not in the mood to debate you. Call it a cop out if you want. If a brother had supported my post, you would have blown a gasket.
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Post by Deleted on May 27, 2020 9:18:46 GMT -5
well socialist/democrats/communist all spout "rubbish" all the time so its the same principle, i think your just being stubborn and do agree with me... never said anything about supporting nathan.... Believe what you want. I'm not in the mood to debate you. Call it a cop out if you want. If a brother had supported my post, you would have blown a gasket. did everyone get up on the wrong side of the bed this morning?
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Post by curlywurlysammagee on May 27, 2020 13:11:16 GMT -5
if people can't hold multiple beliefs and still be a 2x2 then you agree with me you can't be a socialist/democrat/communist and a christain right? No. I do not agree with you. Are you supporting a brother simply because he is a brother? The poor mother should have done the decent thing.
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Post by BobWilliston on May 27, 2020 16:16:30 GMT -5
well socialist/democrats/communist all spout "rubbish" all the time so its the same principle, i think your just being stubborn and do agree with me... never said anything about supporting nathan.... Believe what you want. I'm not in the mood to debate you. Call it a cop out if you want. If a brother had supported my post, you would have blown a gasket. He's more politician than Christian.
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Post by Roselyn T on May 27, 2020 20:06:47 GMT -5
I don't understand how Nathan can claim he is a 2x2 when they do not believe the rubbish he posts. He isn't fooling anyone but himself. if people can't hold multiple beliefs and still be a 2x2 then you agree with me you can't be a socialist/democrat/communist and a christain right? Maybe you should say that in the next Sunday morning meeting you attend @wally !!! I am sure you will get a lot of "amens" NOT !! Or is it okay now to believe that the Catholic church is right and still be a 2x2 ?
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Post by nathan on May 28, 2020 0:00:55 GMT -5
I don't understand how Nathan can claim he is a 2x2 when they do not believe the rubbish he posts. He isn't fooling anyone but himself. It is rubbish according to you atheists and the unbelievers... but it's the TRUTH which you don't believe in. I am NOT the ONLY one who believes in these things.... I am a late comer to these knowledge! The Truth has been around for a long time, but NOT too many KNOW about it.
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Post by curlywurlysammagee on May 28, 2020 0:22:27 GMT -5
I don't understand how Nathan can claim he is a 2x2 when they do not believe the rubbish he posts. He isn't fooling anyone but himself. It is rubbish according to you atheists and the unbelievers... but it's the TRUTH which you don't believe in. I am NOT the ONLY one who believes in these things.... I am a late comer to these knowledge! The Truth has been around for a long time, but NOT too many KNOW about it.One does not have to be an atheist to understand that you are not telling the truth about number of planets and claiming they are hollow.
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