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Post by rational on Feb 25, 2016 10:47:31 GMT -5
It should at least have a system of Limulus amebocyte lysate like the horseshoe crab to protect against toxins. Maybe that's why the horseshoe crab is one of the more successful species. Fossils appear 200 million years before the dinosaurs! Be careful what you wish for. You might just enjoy living for another billion years? That is a very short time compared to the promise of heaven! After the first 10 billion years what will be on the schedule for activities in heaven?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 25, 2016 11:12:01 GMT -5
Jas_1:27 Pure religion and undefiled before God and the Father is this, To visit the fatherless and widows in their affliction, and to keep himself unspotted from the world. Paul didn't say that -- he spoke Greek and some Englishman decided it sounded good. And as for "pure" religion, yours isn't so pure, considering your differences of opinions with the workers. its in the book of james I would think that james said it....
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Post by Guest4 on Feb 25, 2016 12:09:30 GMT -5
Be careful what you wish for. You might just enjoy living for another billion years? That is a very short time compared to the promise of heaven! After the first 10 billion years what will be on the schedule for activities in heaven? If you want to find out stay tuned in!
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Post by BobWilliston on Feb 25, 2016 15:57:03 GMT -5
Paul didn't say that -- he spoke Greek and some Englishman decided it sounded good. And as for "pure" religion, yours isn't so pure, considering your differences of opinions with the workers. its in the book of james I would think that james said it....
Yes, James, of course. But I wasn't really asking what the Bible says. I was wondering if you are a proponent of "pure" religion.
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Post by BobWilliston on Feb 25, 2016 16:00:06 GMT -5
Be careful what you wish for. You might just enjoy living for another billion years? That is a very short time compared to the promise of heaven! After the first 10 billion years what will be on the schedule for activities in heaven? As I heard in meeting one Sunday morning: the afterlife is like picking up grains of sand one by one until there is no sand left on the earth, and then starting all over again each time you finish. Probably the best adapted species would be the hamster.
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Post by Guest4 on Feb 25, 2016 17:27:27 GMT -5
It could also be like a sheep living in a heavenly
pasture, with no worry of food or safety or death.
Personally whatever thoughts we have about heaven, Pure love and pure joy and pure truth will be
Expressed in its purity for all eternity , that is Gods Promise to those that choose Life .
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Post by BobWilliston on Feb 25, 2016 18:39:52 GMT -5
It could also be like a sheep living in a heavenly pasture, with no worry of food or safety or death. Personally whatever thoughts we have about heaven, Pure love and pure joy and pure truth will be Expressed in its purity for all eternity , that is Gods Promise to those that choose Life . Who did God tell that to?
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Post by Guest4 on Feb 25, 2016 20:39:52 GMT -5
It could also be like a sheep living in a heavenly pasture, with no worry of food or safety or death. Personally whatever thoughts we have about heaven, Pure love and pure joy and pure truth will be Expressed in its purity for all eternity , that is Gods Promise to those that choose Life . Who did God tell that to? the pure. Unto the pure , all things are pure.
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Post by Guest4 on Feb 25, 2016 20:46:37 GMT -5
It could also be like a sheep living in a heavenly pasture, with no worry of food or safety or death. Personally whatever thoughts we have about heaven, Pure love and pure joy and pure truth will be Expressed in its purity for all eternity , that is Gods Promise to those that choose Life . Oh, the part about the sheep is from David's / psalms 23. (paraphrasing)
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Post by BobWilliston on Feb 25, 2016 22:54:06 GMT -5
Who did God tell that to? the pure. Unto the pure , all things are pure. Yes, I know the sick are sick and the pure are pure -- and cats chase their own tails. Let's have some names.
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Post by Hmmm on Feb 26, 2016 1:08:52 GMT -5
the pure. Unto the pure , all things are pure. Yes, I know the sick are sick and the pure are pure -- and cats chase their own tails. Let's have some names. it is written To the pure all things are pure. This , love is pure , joy is pure , in heaven. Not of this earth. Pure means not tainted , we know that love can be tainted, there is a poem /song that describes such .
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Post by Hmmm on Feb 26, 2016 1:11:59 GMT -5
Titus 1:15. (Addressing the reader To the pure all things are pure.....,
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Post by dmmichgood on Feb 26, 2016 1:30:14 GMT -5
That is a very short time compared to the promise of heaven! After the first 10 billion years what will be on the schedule for activities in heaven? As I heard in meeting one Sunday morning: the afterlife is like picking up grains of sand one by one until there is no sand left on the earth, and then starting all over again each time you finish. Probably the best adapted species would be the hamster. Were they taking about heaven or hell?
Sounds a lot like poor ole' Sisyphus who was punished by being forced to roll an immense boulder up a hill, only to watch it roll back down, repeating this action for eternity.
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Post by ellie on Feb 26, 2016 1:40:22 GMT -5
Umfolozi where did you go? I will miss your enthusiasm.
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Post by BobWilliston on Feb 26, 2016 2:17:42 GMT -5
Yes, I know the sick are sick and the pure are pure -- and cats chase their own tails. Let's have some names. it is written To the pure all things are pure. This , love is pure , joy is pure , in heaven. Not of this earth. Pure means not tainted , we know that love can be tainted, there is a poem /song that describes such . I asked for a name. "Pure" isn't anyone's name.
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Post by BobWilliston on Feb 26, 2016 2:20:27 GMT -5
As I heard in meeting one Sunday morning: the afterlife is like picking up grains of sand one by one until there is no sand left on the earth, and then starting all over again each time you finish. Probably the best adapted species would be the hamster. Were they taking about heaven or hell?
Sounds a lot like poor ole' Sisyphus who was punished by being forced to roll an immense boulder up a hill, only to watch it roll back down, repeating this action for eternity.I believe all the guy meant was that eternity is forever and ever. He was absurdly dramatic, so he made sure everyone got his point.
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Post by dmmichgood on Feb 26, 2016 3:28:04 GMT -5
Were they taking about heaven or hell?
Sounds a lot like poor ole' Sisyphus who was punished by being forced to roll an immense boulder up a hill, only to watch it roll back down, repeating this action for eternity. I believe all the guy meant was that eternity is forever and ever. He was absurdly dramatic, so he made sure everyone got his point.
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Post by Guest4 on Feb 26, 2016 9:07:27 GMT -5
it is written To the pure all things are pure. This , love is pure , joy is pure , in heaven. Not of this earth. Pure means not tainted , we know that love can be tainted, there is a poem /song that describes such . I asked for a name. "Pure" isn't anyone's name. Who did God ( bible) say , ("all things are pure") to ? To the pure . This means the people that become pure (redeemed from their sins) , imo.
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Post by BobWilliston on Feb 26, 2016 18:21:49 GMT -5
I asked for a name. "Pure" isn't anyone's name. Who did God ( bible) say , ("all things are pure") to ? To the pure . This means the people that become pure (redeemed from their sins) , imo. (1) imo = your opinion (2) I want to know someone who has been declared to have "pure religion". If I asked for the name of an "American citizen", an "American" isn't the answer I'm looking for. Or maybe the "pure" religion is only a fantasy no one accomplishes.
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Post by Yes on Feb 26, 2016 20:58:29 GMT -5
Who did God ( bible) say , ("all things are pure") to ? To the pure . This means the people that become pure (redeemed from their sins) , imo. (1) imo = your opinion (2) I want to know someone who has been declared to have "pure religion". If I asked for the name of an "American citizen", an "American" isn't the answer I'm looking for. Or maybe the "pure" religion is only a fantasy no one accomplishes. We should follow the golden rule. Who are "we" ? It is my goal, even though I fail so in it. I want my belief to be right and pure , even through my many failures . Jmt
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Post by BobWilliston on Feb 26, 2016 23:08:55 GMT -5
(1) imo = your opinion (2) I want to know someone who has been declared to have "pure religion". If I asked for the name of an "American citizen", an "American" isn't the answer I'm looking for. Or maybe the "pure" religion is only a fantasy no one accomplishes. We should follow the golden rule. Who are "we" ? It is my goal, even though I fail so in it. I want my belief to be right and pure , even through my many failures . Jmt Still no pure one. So I guess no one knows who the "pure" are. It's just the concept. So this pure "religion" -- do we have an example of that?
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Post by dmmichgood on Feb 27, 2016 2:59:53 GMT -5
I asked for a name. "Pure" isn't anyone's name. Who did God ( bible) say , ("all things are pure") to ? To the pure . This means the people that become pure (redeemed from their sins) , imo. "In your opinion?" Careful there . You know what was said about adding or taking away from the bible!
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Post by Gus4 on Feb 27, 2016 3:37:37 GMT -5
Who did God ( bible) say , ("all things are pure") to ? To the pure . This means the people that become pure (redeemed from their sins) , imo. "In your opinion?" Careful there . You know what was said about adding or taking away from the bible! hey, nice for you to remind me. Thanks!
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Post by maryhig on Feb 27, 2016 4:26:26 GMT -5
The only one who is pure is Jesus, look at his life and there's your pure religion. Follow him and that's following a pure religion. We're not pure in anyway, no earthly religion is pure, no human is pure, were all sinners and we have all fallen short of the glory of God. Jesus was the only one who ever lived a pure life. And the way back to God is through him. The only thing pure within man is the holy spirit. And we become more clean through the spirit, putting sin to death, and becoming alive in God. Christ through the spirit changes our life so our hearts become like his. And Gods people will be visiting the fatherless and the widows. (Naturally and spiritually) and they will be doing the works, because Christ will be giving them the strength to overcome their own selfish desires and the spirit will be guiding them and teaching them in the ways of God.
Only God is pure, as are those in heaven but only Jesus was pure in flesh, because God lived fully through him, and he was dead to this world and Satan has nothing in him!
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Post by dmmichgood on Feb 27, 2016 5:55:18 GMT -5
The only one who is pure is Jesus, look at his life and there's your pure religion. Follow him and that's following a pure religion. We're not pure in anyway, no earthly religion is pure, no human is pure, were all sinners and we have all fallen short of the glory of God. Jesus was the only one who ever lived a pure life.And the way back to God is through him. The only thing pure within man is the holy spirit. And we become more clean through the spirit, putting sin to death, and becoming alive in God. Christ through the spirit changes our life so our hearts become like his. And Gods people will be visiting the fatherless and the widows. (Naturally and spiritually) and they will be doing the works, because Christ will be giving them the strength to overcome their own selfish desires and the spirit will be guiding them and teaching them in the ways of God. Only God is pure, as are those in heaven but only Jesus was pure in flesh, because God lived fully through him, and he was dead to this world and Satan has nothing in him! If the only one "pure is God" -then when God was supposed to make mankind in HIS own image, why did "God" make humans "sinners" and "impure? "
In an attempt to understand why mankind acts the way it does mankind has spun a tremendous hoax upon it's self! In doing so, mankind has created even MORE misery for it's self by trying to overcome "sins" that really do not exist!
Indeed sometimes mankind is a sorry looking lot! Kind of like a cat trying to catch it's tail but never quite being able to do so!
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Post by maryhig on Feb 27, 2016 8:36:06 GMT -5
The only one who is pure is Jesus, look at his life and there's your pure religion. Follow him and that's following a pure religion. We're not pure in anyway, no earthly religion is pure, no human is pure, were all sinners and we have all fallen short of the glory of God. Jesus was the only one who ever lived a pure life.And the way back to God is through him. The only thing pure within man is the holy spirit. And we become more clean through the spirit, putting sin to death, and becoming alive in God. Christ through the spirit changes our life so our hearts become like his. And Gods people will be visiting the fatherless and the widows. (Naturally and spiritually) and they will be doing the works, because Christ will be giving them the strength to overcome their own selfish desires and the spirit will be guiding them and teaching them in the ways of God. Only God is pure, as are those in heaven but only Jesus was pure in flesh, because God lived fully through him, and he was dead to this world and Satan has nothing in him! If the only one "pure is God" -then when God was supposed to make mankind in HIS own image, why did "God" make humans "sinners" and "impure? "
In an attempt to understand why mankind acts the way it does mankind has spun a tremendous hoax upon it's self! In doing so, mankind has created even MORE misery for it's self by trying to overcome "sins" that really do not exist!
Indeed sometimes mankind is a sorry looking lot! Kind of like a cat trying to catch it's tail but never quite being able to do so! God makes man in his own image by blessing us with the holy spirit. And we have to obey God and follow Jesus, and then being led by the spirit we will be denying our sins becoming cleansed by Christ through the spirit.
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Post by dmmichgood on Feb 27, 2016 21:27:19 GMT -5
If the only one "pure is God" -then when God was supposed to make mankind in HIS own image, why did "God" make humans "sinners" and "impure? "
In an attempt to understand why mankind acts the way it does mankind has spun a tremendous hoax upon it's self! In doing so, mankind has created even MORE misery for it's self by trying to overcome "sins" that really do not exist!
Indeed sometimes mankind is a sorry looking lot! Kind of like a cat trying to catch it's tail but never quite being able to do so! God makes man in his own image by blessing us with the holy spirit. And we have to obey God and follow Jesus, and then being led by the spirit we will be denying our sins becoming cleansed by Christ through the spirit. If a "God" made us in HIS own image, why did HE give us a human body that is supposed to be so "sinful" that we have to live miserable lives just trying to find our way back to HIM?
Why did HE kill HIS own son to supposedly "redeem" us from our "sins?"
What was HIS reason to make us feel still more miserable by making we feel guilty for causing all that pain & suffering to HIS son?
It is like a horror film and mankind has perpetuated that horror on themselves.
Why did mankind do that to themselves? Probably because they keep trying to understand why the world is so chaotic and so many terrible things happen.
They want answers & when they are unable to find an answer quickly, it is always easier to put the supernatural or paranormal reason into the breach than to try plow through to a more accurate answer.
Examples of such are numerous: Why we suddenly developed a high temperature and sores all over our bodies & died is only one.
Through out our history we were able to understand & even correct some things (some diseases ) but it was not accomplished by worshiping or praying to whichever the current GOD happened to be; -it was only accomplished by the plowing through to a more accurate answer by way of science.
As we did so & still do so, - those GODS that mankind had thrown into that breach just evaporated .
Yet,-in spite of this, -there are still so many people who continue to make themselves miserable, as well as those around them, by believing in such a being called a "GOD."
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Post by maryhig on Feb 27, 2016 23:40:27 GMT -5
God makes man in his own image by blessing us with the holy spirit. And we have to obey God and follow Jesus, and then being led by the spirit we will be denying our sins becoming cleansed by Christ through the spirit. If a "God" made us in HIS own image, why did HE give us a human body that is supposed to be so "sinful" that we have to live miserable lives just trying to find our way back to HIM?
Why did HE kill HIS own son to supposedly "redeem" us from our "sins?"
What was HIS reason to make us feel still more miserable by making we feel guilty for causing all that pain & suffering to HIS son?
It is like a horror film and mankind has perpetuated that horror on themselves.
Why did mankind do that to themselves? Probably because they keep trying to understand why the world is so chaotic and so many terrible things happen.
They want answers & when they are unable to find an answer quickly, it is always easier to put the supernatural or paranormal reason into the breach than to try plow through to a more accurate answer.
Examples of such are numerous: Why we suddenly developed a high temperature and sores all over our bodies & died is only one.
Through out our history we were able to understand & even correct some things (some diseases ) but it was not accomplished by worshiping or praying to whichever the current GOD happened to be; -it was only accomplished by the plowing through to a more accurate answer by way of science.
As we did so & still do so, - those GODS that mankind had thrown into that breach just evaporated .
Yet,-in spite of this, -there are still so many people who continue to make themselves miserable, as well as those around them, by believing in such a being called a "GOD."
Firstly, the last thing I am is miserable. Even though I go through suffering at times in my life, God helps me through, and I've never felt so much peace as I do since I've given my heart to God. When the world starts losing its hold on you, the burdens are lifted and you feel free! I've said before, I believe we've done something to be here. Satan is here and the flesh and the world is under his control, that's not a good thing. God has created a beautiful world, and we are destroying it, through greed and selfishness. I was watching the news the other day, and it was talking about disease and death and how much of it is caused by pollutants alone. It's frightening. From household cleaners to car emissions, from pumping animals with antibiotics to gluing meat together. Putting rubbish into chicken nuggets to polluting the ground with pesticides. And all the time God is cleaning, cleaning the water through the clouds, giving us clean air, bringing forth fruit and clean oxygen from the trees. We cut down rain forests and pump junk into the air wreck our world and our own lives and then blame God! We are sinful in nature, and whilst we live a life to please ourselves, we are dead to God. We are only alive in God once we are blessed with the holy spirit, he is our breath of life, as our body needs oxygen to live, so does our heart need the spirit to be alive in God! And to receive him we must believe and follow Jesus and through him, by the spirit, we are being put to death daily and we are reconciled to God, and Jesus has showed us the way. He came and lived it and we are saved by his life. He came as an example showing us a life that we must follow and he can give us the strength to overcome once we put our hand to denying ourselves. Because he overcame the world and now he helps Gods people to do so by the spirit. God wants our hearts cleansed and Christ by the spirit does this daily, if we stop living to please ourselves and give our hearts to God! As for the crucifixion, well I'm sure you know that I believe differently in this. God didn't kill Jesus. It says in the Bible that wicked hands killed him. Jesus came to bring the truth and show us the way he is the life. And Satan through wicked men, killed him. But he endured to the end and overcame Satan. Showing us the heavenly father to his last breath, showing mercy and forgiveness through all the pain and suffering that the world threw at him. Right up until his last breath! He came into sinful flesh, and overcame never sinnng once. And Satan couldn't overcome him in any way whatsoever. And Christ will give us the strength to overcome, cleaning out our hearts before God by changing them to be more like his if we lay down our lives and give ourselves over to the will of God and Christ through his people can show the way to others! We become guides to bring the gospel and show others the way back to God through Christ! I believe that God is love, and that Jesus came in his image. And he poured out the love of God to all he met. He lived it out and if we love God, then we too will love others and show mercy and forgiveness. Because that love of Christ will be in our hearts. I know you don't believe, but, I know God is there. I've had proof in my life. I just hope that you get to know him. Because he's the best thing that has ever happened to me!
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