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Post by Deleted on Dec 2, 2017 12:41:11 GMT -5
If you believe there was a “Big Bang”, it would definitely Be the most paranormal event ever? With God all things are possible. I believe that God was/ is able to create a big bang. I believe in God, father almighty, creator of Heaven and earth.
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Post by commonman on Dec 2, 2017 13:42:39 GMT -5
Creation was not paranormal, it’s as real as our ability to reason is.
Making and causing an implosion, then nothing implodes, makes for an illogical event, either it happens as God said, Or it’s a paranormal event
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Post by Deleted on Dec 2, 2017 14:33:50 GMT -5
Creation was not paranormal, it’s as real as our ability to reason is. Making and causing an implosion, then nothing implodes, makes for an illogical event, either it happens as God said, Or it’s a paranormal event If hat is your conclusion, then stick with it.
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Post by Commonman on Dec 2, 2017 15:53:43 GMT -5
Creation was not paranormal, it’s as real as our ability to reason is. Making and causing an implosion, then nothing implodes, makes for an illogical event, either it happens as God said, Or it’s a paranormal event it. [art After creating the heavens and the earth, the heavens were Stretched out
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Post by BobWilliston on Dec 2, 2017 16:22:24 GMT -5
Regardless of what one considers the paranormal, there is adequate scientific evidence pointing to an event that could appropriately be called a big bang ... according to simply mathematical calculations. I would think the absence of such an event would be greater evidence of something paranormal. You’ll make headlines if you could prove the absence of anything(or event) is a “paranormal” , event? How could you determine”normal” ? Could something be defined as paranormal, when it doesn’t exist?? I didn't say I could prove anything. What I meant was that if the laws of physics as we commonly understand them somehow didn't work, then I would "guess" there was something abnormal/paranormal going on. Don't worry, it was believers in the paranormal who actually made me skeptical of all claims of paranormal and miracle events. To recognize what it is you don't know is to be more humble than claiming to know the paranormal.
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Post by BobWilliston on Dec 2, 2017 16:23:42 GMT -5
Creation was not paranormal, it’s as real as our ability to reason is. Making and causing an implosion, then nothing implodes, makes for an illogical event, either it happens as God said, Or it’s a paranormal event There are indeed implosions happening continuously throughout the universe. Some have been witnessed ... and logically explained.
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Post by BobWilliston on Dec 2, 2017 16:38:35 GMT -5
If you believe there was a “Big Bang”, it would definitely Be the most paranormal event ever? With God all things are possible. I believe that God was/ is able to create a big bang. I believe in God, father almighty, creator of Heaven and earth. I'm not going to disagree with you. What I need to say is that I don't believe anyone knows what "God" is. Throughout the history of mankind he has always been the entity that causes things no one can explain. The god of modern Christianity is the result of continual morphing from time immemorable. I believe in out culture today one can use the term god for the convenience of simply discussing events that no one can explain, and not implying that it was the "will" of a "Christian god" that things as trivial as a causing a loaf of bread to fall off a shelf in the grocery store. What will we do if by some means it can be discovered that the big bang was the result of a previous total university implosion. There is no end to what we in our generation could possibly even consider, considering the state of modern scientific discovery. Just some thoughts.
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Post by Commonman on Dec 2, 2017 19:05:02 GMT -5
With God all things are possible. I believe that God was/ is able to create a big bang. I believe in God, father almighty, creator of Heaven and earth. I'm not going to disagree with you. What I need to say is that I don't believe anyone knows what "God" is. Throughout the history of mankind he has always been the entity that causes things no one can explain. The god of modern Christianity is the result of continual morphing from time immemorable. I believe in out culture today one can use the term god for the convenience of simply discussing events that no one can explain, and not implying that it was the "will" of a "Christian god" that things as trivial as a causing a loaf of bread to fall off a shelf in the grocery store. What will we do if by some means it can be discovered that the big bang was the result of a previous total university implosion. There is no end to what we in our generation could possibly even consider, considering the state of modern scientific discovery. Just some thoughts. As we all know , both the old and new testaments were Inspired to Hebrew writers, the gentiles were adopted into this fellowship , through Paul , Peter, and others Just some thoughts. 2
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Post by commonman on Dec 2, 2017 19:14:52 GMT -5
Creation was not paranormal, it’s as real as our ability to reason is. Making and causing an implosion, then nothing implodes, makes for an illogical event, either it happens as God said, Or it’s a paranormal event There are indeed implosions happening continuously throughout the universe. Some have been witnessed ... and logically explained. n Are these “implosions” the result of normal causes , or Of “paranormal” origin? Could you believe that nothing can cause an implosion? (The irony of ithat ,Hmmm😉) I’ll have to believe you consider these implosions to be caused by an unknown source? R?
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Post by dmmichgood on Dec 2, 2017 22:00:03 GMT -5
After creating the heavens and the earth, -the heavens were Stretched out Geeze, Commonman!
Do you believe that OUR EARTH is the center of the universe?
Sound as if have regressed to the middle of the 1500's when some people still believed in a geocentric position of the earth!
I thought we had gotten over that hubris of believing that we are the center of EVERYTHING!
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Post by BobWilliston on Dec 2, 2017 23:21:47 GMT -5
I'm not going to disagree with you. What I need to say is that I don't believe anyone knows what "God" is. Throughout the history of mankind he has always been the entity that causes things no one can explain. The god of modern Christianity is the result of continual morphing from time immemorable. I believe in out culture today one can use the term god for the convenience of simply discussing events that no one can explain, and not implying that it was the "will" of a "Christian god" that things as trivial as a causing a loaf of bread to fall off a shelf in the grocery store. What will we do if by some means it can be discovered that the big bang was the result of a previous total university implosion. There is no end to what we in our generation could possibly even consider, considering the state of modern scientific discovery. Just some thoughts. As we all know , both the old and new testaments were Inspired to Hebrew writers, the gentiles were adopted into this fellowship , through Paul , Peter, and others Just some thoughts. 2 You didn't "think" that, you were told that many times over and over again.
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Post by BobWilliston on Dec 2, 2017 23:26:26 GMT -5
Are these “implosions” the result of normal causes , or Of “paranormal” origin? These implosions are predictable, by applying the laws of physics. This his high school science. No. I've witnessed too many implosions to believe such a thing. I'll relieve you of that belief. Check my first response.
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Post by Commonman on Dec 3, 2017 0:30:38 GMT -5
As we all know , both the old and new testaments were Inspired to Hebrew writers, the gentiles were adopted into this fellowship , through Paul , Peter, and others Just some thoughts. 2 You didn't "think" that, you were told that many times over and over again. Full moon effect?? I’ll wait to respond/. 😉
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Post by dmmichgood on Dec 3, 2017 1:01:28 GMT -5
Regardless of what one considers the paranormal, there is adequate scientific evidence pointing to an event that could appropriately be called a big bang ... according to simply mathematical calculations. I would think the absence of such an event would be greater evidence of something paranormal. You’ll make headlines if you could prove the absence of anything(or event) is a “paranormal” , event? How could you determine”normal” ? Could something be defined as paranormal, when it doesn’t exist?? Commonman, isn't that just the point?
How can anyone "prove" the absence of someone or something?
Isn't is the same with "paranormal" events as with a belief in a "supernatural "being called "god?"
When there is no evidence that a god exists there is simply NO way to try to Prove He doesn't exist!
"Paranormal" events don't really exist either, so how do you go about trying to "prove" that they do NOT exist?
How does one prove a negative?
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Post by BobWilliston on Dec 3, 2017 2:30:24 GMT -5
You didn't "think" that, you were told that many times over and over again. Full moon effect?? I’ll wait to respond/. 😉 How often does God make the moon do this one, do you think?
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Post by Commonman on Dec 3, 2017 7:11:57 GMT -5
Let’s try another explanation.
(If all else fails!)
The cause of the universe needs to be non-material.
🤔
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Post by Commonman on Dec 3, 2017 7:26:57 GMT -5
As we all know , both the old and new testaments were Inspired to Hebrew writers, the gentiles were adopted into this fellowship , through Paul , Peter, and others Just some thoughts. 2 You didn't "think" that, you were told that many times over and over again. And this fellowship was first called “Christian” at Antioch? I read that many many times ! 😉
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Post by Commonman on Dec 3, 2017 8:48:48 GMT -5
You’ll make headlines if you could prove the absence of anything(or event) is a “paranormal” , event? How could you determine”normal” ? Could something be defined as paranormal, when it doesn’t exist?? Commonman, isn't that just the point?
How can anyone "prove" the absence of someone or something?
Isn't is the same with "paranormal" events as with a belief in a "supernatural "being called "god?"
When there is no evidence that a god exists there is simply NO way to try to Prove He doesn't exist!
"Paranormal" events don't really exist either, so how do you go about trying to "prove" that they do NOT exist?
How does one prove a negative?
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we aint?
when did they move us?
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Post by Grant on Dec 3, 2017 12:20:50 GMT -5
You didn't "think" that, you were told that many times over and over again. And this fellowship was first called “Christian” at Antioch? I read that many many times ! 😉 The fellowship was first called Christian at Antioch or the followers of Jesus were called Christians? All believers are called Christians but not all church fellowships have the name Christian attached it. People who attend the Baptist Church for example are called Christians but the fellowship is called Baptist.
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Post by BobWilliston on Dec 3, 2017 15:05:33 GMT -5
You didn't "think" that, you were told that many times over and over again. And this fellowship was first called “Christian” at Antioch? I read that many many times ! 😉 Yes, I know. But they weren't Jews, they were Greeks who hadn't yet been introduced to any of the 12. The believers in Palestine were never called Christians.
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Post by BobWilliston on Dec 3, 2017 15:11:40 GMT -5
Let’s try another explanation. (If all else fails!) The cause of the universe needs to be non-material. 🤔 Why? Do you have some insight into anything prior to a supposed big bang?
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Post by BobWilliston on Dec 3, 2017 15:21:18 GMT -5
And this fellowship was first called “Christian” at Antioch? I read that many many times ! 😉 The fellowship was first called Christian at Antioch or the followers of Jesus were called Christians? The followers of Jesus were only called "Jews". It was the Greeks who introduced the "Christ" theology to followers of Paul. Not really. Actually the Baptists and other fundamentalist denominations now usually call themselves "Christians" to the exclusion of all other non-fundamentalist Christians denominations. The practice is now so prevalent that I've heard kids say, "I'm not a Christian, I'm a Catholic."
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Post by Commonman on Dec 3, 2017 17:00:02 GMT -5
Let’s try another explanation. (If all else fails!) The cause of the universe needs to be non-material. 🤔 Why? Do you have some insight into anything prior to a supposed big bang? Because I got a patent on material causes! (And so they aint allowed.) 😉
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Post by Commonmann on Dec 3, 2017 17:19:08 GMT -5
Creation was not paranormal, it’s as real as our ability to reason is. Making and causing an implosion, then nothing implodes, makes for an illogical event, either it happens as God said, Or it’s a paranormal event There are indeed implosions happening continuously throughout the universe. Some have been witnessed ... and logically explained. ok, I will try to explain “nothing” ....😅 perhaps its its best explained as : “ “, yet im not sure even that does it right? what happens when “nothing” implodes? what happens when “nothing implodes” from my view, “ “ happens. But it I might be wrong, ??
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Post by BobWilliston on Dec 3, 2017 20:32:41 GMT -5
Why? Do you have some insight into anything prior to a supposed big bang? Because I got a patent on material causes! (And so they aint allowed.) 😉 Congratulations.
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Post by BobWilliston on Dec 3, 2017 20:35:48 GMT -5
There are indeed implosions happening continuously throughout the universe. Some have been witnessed ... and logically explained. ok, I will try to explain “nothing” ....😅 perhaps its its best explained as : “ “, yet im not sure even that does it right? what happens when “nothing” implodes? what happens when “nothing implodes” from my view, “ “ happens. But it I might be wrong, ?? [/quote] I perceive you're a science teacher.
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Post by Grant on Dec 3, 2017 21:49:09 GMT -5
The fellowship was first called Christian at Antioch or the followers of Jesus were called Christians? The followers of Jesus were only called "Jews". It was the Greeks who introduced the "Christ" theology to followers of Paul. Not really. Actually the Baptists and other fundamentalist denominations now usually call themselves "Christians" to the exclusion of all other non-fundamentalist Christians denominations. The practice is now so prevalent that I've heard kids say, "I'm not a Christian, I'm a Catholic." The people are Christians but they attend the Baptist Church / fellowship
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Post by BobWilliston on Dec 3, 2017 22:40:45 GMT -5
The followers of Jesus were only called "Jews". It was the Greeks who introduced the "Christ" theology to followers of Paul. Not really. Actually the Baptists and other fundamentalist denominations now usually call themselves "Christians" to the exclusion of all other non-fundamentalist Christians denominations. The practice is now so prevalent that I've heard kids say, "I'm not a Christian, I'm a Catholic." The people are Christians but they attend the Baptist Church / fellowship Yes, I know. You made it sound like they didn't call themselves Christians.
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