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Post by Deleted on Mar 19, 2016 18:13:55 GMT -5
I thank God for the book of Revelations. And just to be a nitpicker, it is actually the book of Revelation. Ok, and I mark you 100% for that.
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Post by BobWilliston on Mar 19, 2016 19:28:41 GMT -5
My life is successful because I possess success in my life. My life is sick because I possess sickness in my life. My cat has tails in his life because he chases his own, round and round. God revealed that to me, otherwise no one would ever know such a thing. I thank God for the book of Revelations. I'm sure it makes everything crystal clear -- if you have a wild imagination.
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Post by BobWilliston on Mar 19, 2016 19:37:15 GMT -5
I have seen contradictions in the so called infallible science. Growing up, the earth was millions of years old and then it became BILLIONS of years old...adding a billion every so many years. We don't know and will never be able to know. We weren't around then. That's not a contradiction -- it's a lack of proper interpretation by non-scientists. Scientists readily admit they don't know what there was before anything they've discovered.
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Post by BobWilliston on Mar 19, 2016 19:42:06 GMT -5
I have seen contradictions in the so called infallible science. Growing up, the earth was millions of years old and then it became BILLIONS of years old...adding a billion every so many years. We don't know and will never be able to know. We weren't around then. Walker ~ I was just reading an article along these lines today and was astonished to see that you brought up a similar idea within your post above. Here's that article that supports such a radical idea, too. It even discusses carbon dating, which is used to support the billions of years in the creation of the earth and mankind as well as the animals from fossil evidence. All of this is now being questioned due to new discoveries in recent years. creation.com/age-of-the-earth Age of the Earth
The problem with this site is that their raison d'être is to promote creationism, and there seem to be more religious quasi-scientists around these days than real scientists.
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Post by rational on Mar 19, 2016 21:16:17 GMT -5
I have seen contradictions in the so called infallible science. Growing up, the earth was millions of years old and then it became BILLIONS of years old...adding a billion every so many years. We don't know and will never be able to know. We weren't around then. Contradictions are very different than updates. At one time it was thought that the earth was the center of our solar system. When the data made it clear that this was not the case it went from the Ptolemaic model (geocentric) to the Copernican model model (heliocentric).
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Post by rational on Mar 19, 2016 21:46:17 GMT -5
I have seen contradictions in the so called infallible science. Growing up, the earth was millions of years old and then it became BILLIONS of years old...adding a billion every so many years. We don't know and will never be able to know. We weren't around then. Walker ~ I was just reading an article along these lines today and was astonished to see that you brought up a similar idea within your post above. Here's that article that supports such a radical idea, too. It even discusses carbon dating, which is used to support the billions of years in the creation of the earth and mankind as well as the animals from fossil evidence. All of this is now being questioned due to new discoveries in recent years. This points out the problems with some of these sites. As an example: Carbon dating is only useful in dating the age of things that were at one time alive. It has a useful range generally considered to be less than 50,000 years. In fossilized material the original chemicals have been replaced with other minerals so measuring the difference in radioactive decay of various isotopes of carbon makes no sense. If the data that supports what you read was based on Dr Snelling you might find this interesting: www.noanswersingenesis.org.au/realsnelling.htm
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Post by yes on Mar 19, 2016 22:24:01 GMT -5
There were 100 other offerings. I think the overwhelming evidence supports the younger earth model. Personally , I liked #99. concerning the simultaneous development of languages, and how it can be traced to the Tower of Babel event, There is a lot of links that support Tower of Babel occurring after the flood event, confirming erosion from a catostophic flood throughout the world. History is interesting.
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Post by dmmichgood on Mar 19, 2016 22:28:26 GMT -5
Walker ~ I was just reading an article along these lines today and was astonished to see that you brought up a similar idea within your post above. Here's that article that supports such a radical idea, too. It even discusses carbon dating, which is used to support the billions of years in the creation of the earth and mankind as well as the animals from fossil evidence. All of this is now being questioned due to new discoveries in recent years. This points out the problems with some of these sites. As an example: Carbon dating is only useful in dating the age of things that were at one time alive. It has a useful range generally considered to be less than 50,000 years. In fossilized material the original chemicals have been replaced with other minerals so measuring the difference in radioactive decay of various isotopes of carbon makes no sense. If the data that supports what you read was based on Dr Snelling you might find this interesting: www.noanswersingenesis.org.au/realsnelling.htm www.noanswersingenesis.org.au/realsnelling.htm
That article is such fascinating! Not so much for the info as to the people. One wonders how the two can sound so different yet go by the same name and have the same mail box!. It is such a mystery that if I was close I think the detective in me would have me watching that PO BOX to see was picking up the mail.
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Post by dmmichgood on Mar 19, 2016 22:31:26 GMT -5
Why does the image of my cat chasing it's tail come before my eyes when I read that?
You mean like Kekulé's dream of the ouroboros?? Except my cat can't catch her tail let alone eat it! But she has a great time trying.
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Post by dmmichgood on Mar 19, 2016 22:35:42 GMT -5
I thank God for the book of Revelations. I'm sure it makes everything crystal clear -- if you have a wild imagination. Yes, indeed! If he lived today, John of Patmos could have made fortune in writing Fantasy, especially Horror Fantasy.
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Post by dmmichgood on Mar 19, 2016 22:53:43 GMT -5
There were 100 other offerings. I think the overwhelming evidence supports the younger earth model. Personally , I liked #99. concerning the simultaneous development of languages, and how it can be traced to the Tower of Babel event, There is a lot of links that support Tower of Babel occurring after the flood event, confirming erosion from a catostophic flood throughout the world. History is interesting. Oh, My aching head! There must be an emoticon for a severe headache! Maybe this it.
History?
"Tower of Babel occurring after the flood event, confirming erosion from a catastrophic flood throughout the world?"
-That isn't history!
It is allegory, certainly not history! 1 : the expression by means of symbolic fictional figures and actions of truths or generalizations about human existence 2 : a symbolic representation :
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Post by Huh on Mar 19, 2016 23:00:20 GMT -5
There is a theory that every language had an expression that expresses our misunderstanding and the resulting "confusion" (Babel ) The concept of "huh" is universal in every language as is being confounded ....... Hmmmmm, huh?
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Post by Roselyn T on Mar 19, 2016 23:06:59 GMT -5
I thank God for the book of Revelations. I'm sure it makes everything crystal clear -- if you have a wild imagination. Or if you have been smoking something stronger than nicotine !
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Post by joanna on Mar 19, 2016 23:10:17 GMT -5
The content of Revelation could be explained by the author suffering a mental illness and experiencing a delusional disorder. That people actually believe it is seriously concerning.
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Post by Roselyn T on Mar 19, 2016 23:18:05 GMT -5
The content of Revelation could be explained by the author suffering a mental illness and experiencing a delusional disorder. That people actually believe it is seriously concerning. My son said to me a few months ago, they must have been smoking some serious stuff I agree if a person were to write that today they would be looked at as having a mental disorder.
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Post by dmmichgood on Mar 19, 2016 23:19:43 GMT -5
Why does the image of my cat chasing it's tail come before my eyes when I read that?
Probably because your consciousness imagined it ? Btw, do you think that sacred truths are best understood by a sacred consciousness? Yes, my consciousness imagined it. The big question is ; WHY did my consciousness imagined it?
Because that statement is an example of the fallacy of "circular reasoning." (my cat circle movements chasing her tail) "Circular reasoning is a logical fallacy in which the reasoner begins with what they are trying to end with."
Also that statement sounds very profound doesn't it? Scientific American has an article on how something can sound quite profound but actually says NOTHING!
PS: Would you define "sacred truths" and "sacred consciousness?"
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Post by dmmichgood on Mar 19, 2016 23:25:33 GMT -5
There is a theory that every language had an expression that expresses our misunderstanding and the resulting "confusion" (Babel ) The concept of "huh" is universal in every language as is being confounded ....... Hmmmmm, huh? ehum.. well what do you know? Ain't knowledge great?
Tell us more about semantics and languages & their origins, how & where you can trace their origins.
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Post by Hmmmm on Mar 20, 2016 0:00:17 GMT -5
There is a theory that every language had an expression that expresses our misunderstanding and the resulting "confusion" (Babel ) The concept of "huh" is universal in every language as is being confounded ....... Hmmmmm, huh? ehum.. well what do you know? Ain't knowledge great[?
Tell us more about semantics and languages & their origins, how & where you can trace th[]eir ori[ont][ There is lots of info on those subjects , how is your headache?
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Post by dmmichgood on Mar 20, 2016 0:26:02 GMT -5
ehum.. well what do you know? Ain't knowledge great[?
Tell us more about semantics and languages & their origins, how & where you can trace th[]eir ori[ont] [ There is lots of info on those subjects , how is you r headache? AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH! IT JUST CAME BACK!
How can you manage to screw up my post like this ( th[]eir ori[ont]) when all you have to do is copy & paste it? Geeze!!
I'm sure there is lots of info on semantics and languages. I was just asking you for a little help in finding them.
If you don't know, just say so. No shame in not knowing.
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Post by dmmichgood on Mar 20, 2016 0:35:14 GMT -5
The content of Revelation could be explained by the author suffering a mental illness and experiencing a delusional disorder. That people actually believe it is seriously concerning. When you think about John's situation, he was exiled out there on an island, not allowed to talk to others, is it any wonder his mind begin to create something?
Studies have been done where if someone is in solitary confinement for very long, they can begin to hallucinate, hearing voices, seeing things, because people really need that interaction with others.
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Post by Hmmmm on Mar 20, 2016 0:46:49 GMT -5
[ There is lots of info on those subjects , how is you r headache? No shame in not knowing.Try google. : Tower of Babel , languages. Take a couple aspirin , enjoy '!
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Post by dmmichgood on Mar 20, 2016 1:18:52 GMT -5
Try google. : Tower of Babel , languages. Take a couple aspirin , enjoy '! Can't you give closer references than that?! I thought you knew more about it than that!
You know there must be whole studies about where & how language begin, changed and moved from one place to another around the world!
PS.
Aspirin won't clear up your messing up my post!
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Post by Deleted on Mar 20, 2016 4:02:10 GMT -5
I thank God for the book of Revelations. I'm sure it makes everything crystal clear -- if you have a wild imagination. Well it is likely that God has given His own "a wild imagination" to understand what others are too blind to see.
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Post by BobWilliston on Mar 20, 2016 12:35:17 GMT -5
I'm sure it makes everything crystal clear -- if you have a wild imagination. Well it is likely that God has given His own "a wild imagination" to understand what others are too blind to see. Here we go again .... What God probably knows and surprisingly still has to figure out.
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Post by Lee on Mar 20, 2016 14:08:20 GMT -5
The content of Revelation could be explained by the author suffering a mental illness and experiencing a delusional disorder. That people actually believe it is seriously concerning. Or not. Its not uncommon for delusions to correspond to real anxieties about really fearful things about life.
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Post by rational on Mar 20, 2016 16:06:52 GMT -5
The content of Revelation could be explained by the author suffering a mental illness and experiencing a delusional disorder. That people actually believe it is seriously concerning. Or not. Its not uncommon for delusions to correspond to real anxieties about really fearful things about life. Is there a 'false' or 'counterfeit' anxiety rather than a real anxiety? I am feeling anxious wondering if I do not understand the meaning of anxiety! I have always felt that anxiety was a nervousness regarding an upcoming event with an uncertain outcome, usually imagined to be negative.
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Post by Could be on Mar 20, 2016 16:16:14 GMT -5
We could have anxiety about an imagined fear, (phobia?)
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Post by rational on Mar 21, 2016 7:44:26 GMT -5
We could have anxiety about an imagined fear, (phobia?) Isn't anxiety always about imagined/future possible outcomes?
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