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Post by Commonman on May 19, 2016 20:50:22 GMT -5
Chuck Darwin did finally admit that evolution wasn't his idea at all , in the late years of his life. It was a freemasonry objective, and quite sure it was due to the Mason's that his book was bought. by anyone. Probably their members were Required to buy it ? From what I heard , it is shear torture to read?? Eh?
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Post by dmmichgood on May 19, 2016 21:15:33 GMT -5
Why do you base your perception of God on your perception of God's presentation in the Bible? More to the point , do YOU base your perception of god on the bible?
If not, then what do you base you perception of god? Some other source, some other document?
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Post by dmmichgood on May 19, 2016 21:43:59 GMT -5
Chuck Darwin did finally admit that evolution wasn't his idea at all, in the late years of his life. It was a freemasonry objective, and quite sure it was due to the Mason's that his book was bought. by anyone. Probably their members were Required to buy it ? From what I heard , it is shear torture to read?? Eh? Mind telling me where Charles Darwin ever called himself "Chuck"or others ever called him "Chuck?"
Can you provide reference as to where Darwin admitted that evolution wasn't his idea at all?
Darwin always gave credit to others before him for the background work they had done before him. Actually many other naturalists of this time had speculated on the evolutionary change of species over time according to natural laws.
"In 1751, Pierre Louis Maupertuis wrote of natural modifications occurring during reproduction and accumulating over many generations to produce new species.
Georges-Louis Leclerc, Comte de Buffon suggested that species could degenerate into different organisms, and Erasmus Darwin proposed that all warm-blooded animals could have descended from a single microorganism (or "filament").
The first full-fledged evolutionary scheme was Jean-Baptiste Lamarck's "transmutation" theory of 1809, which envisaged spontaneous generation continually producing simple forms of life that developed greater complexity in parallel lineages with an inherent progressive tendency, and postulated that on a local level these lineages adapted to the environment by inheriting changes caused by their use or disuse in parents. (The latter process was later called Lamarckism.)
These ideas were condemned by established naturalists as speculation lacking empirical support.
In particular, Georges Cuvier insisted that species were unrelated and fixed, their similarities reflecting divine design for functional needs. In the meantime, Ray's ideas of benevolent design had been developed by William Paley into the Natural Theology or Evidences of the Existence and Attributes of the Deity , which proposed complex adaptations as evidence of divine design and which was admired by Charles Darwin.
The crucial break from the concept of constant typological classes or types in biology came with the theory of evolution through natural selection, which was formulated by Charles Darwin in terms of variable populations." from wiki
PS: Can you give any references as to Darwin's work being based on any freemasonry objective?
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Post by Commonman on May 20, 2016 6:10:01 GMT -5
Yes there are plenty of sites that are filled With hogwash! Are you trying to wash hogs today ??
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Post by Commonman on May 20, 2016 6:12:59 GMT -5
The zodiac proves that Charley Darwin book Is hogwash!
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Post by Commonman on May 20, 2016 6:57:44 GMT -5
God named the stars ! Darwin and Huxley got their idea from pagan religion
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Post by Commonman on May 20, 2016 7:04:26 GMT -5
Do a google search for: evolution conspiracy and Freemasonry . Charley's grandfathers name (Erasmus Darwin) will be there!!
They admit evolution is unprovable and hogwash, you could have enough hogwash to wash a boat full of hogs!
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Post by Commonman on May 20, 2016 7:11:41 GMT -5
One of many sites , even though : Engineering evolution!
If you don't like that one, then do your own search The truth is the truth, even if you disagree with it, dmch.
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Post by rational on May 23, 2016 12:45:40 GMT -5
One of many sites , even though : Engineering evolution! If you don't like that one, then do your own search The truth is the truth, even if you disagree with it, dmch. The truth is indeed out there. That is why the vast majority of christian denominations support the theory of evolution. There is just too much data to deny that evolution happens. You have fallen into the maze of conspiracy theories.
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Post by Commonman on May 23, 2016 16:49:55 GMT -5
Well. It might be just a theory, but there is a lot of evidence that Freemasons do have a specific agenda, I would like to ignore it, but .... How can they not have a stated agenda? I think a conspiracy theory
takes a lot of organizing and cooperating agendas, but a society as powerful as the Rothchilds backed Freemasons would just need the agreement that they already have made, IMO.
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Post by Commonman on May 24, 2016 2:06:18 GMT -5
Here is a feeble effort to understand the complex and design elements in life cells. :
Let there be a 3D puzzle of a trillion pieces that each is too small for a human eye to differentiate.
At some moment one of these pieces is initiated to the "picture " , each piece that is then added, has also joined in as an additional component that functions but sees the big picture that will continue to develop , not by Undirected design , but the specific design contained In the information and self functioning of each and every additional piece of this purposed DNA .
It has no options, it will continue to add pieces as to finish the "puzzle " it self is directing , it essentially functions as a self directed DNA organization that Knows that each additional cell will understand that Each cell will become assigned a specific role, this role specific, yet has knowledge that the other pieces will also accept roles that there will be a "harmony" and cooperation with all additional pieces .
Really this is far to complex to understand, but there are scientists that are studying how this complexity can be accepted, even in designing a very small living organism,. Yet it can use another cell with another DNA that can build anther " puzzle" for. Another of the billion species and kinds of life
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Post by Commonman on May 24, 2016 2:34:01 GMT -5
This concept seemed quite consistent with what the bible teaches us about human beings that were created individually with a spirit that
Is capable of understanding that each person can be grown into a spiritual body of believers where each "cell" accepts the place it has, even Knowing that harmony with the whole has great benefit and yet we are all a part of this whole body that functions as a harmonious design for a synergistic benefit to the whole being. Imo
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Post by Commonman on May 24, 2016 3:20:41 GMT -5
One of many sites , even though : Engineering evolution! If you don't like that one, then do your own search The truth is the truth, even if you disagree with it, dmch. The truth is indeed out there. That is why the vast majority of christian denominations support the theory of evolution. There is just too much data to deny that evolution happens. You have fallen into the maze of conspiracy theories. Why are there sinful ideas about theories of creation? Should we allow people to sin , or should humans define what sin is?? What do you think is the reason for "sin" to exist? Surely if it is sin the it is wrong, in a sinfree World would we understand that sin is wrong?? There is a promise that we can inherit a sinfree world , if that is truly what we want . Understand that there is one that there is order in a perfect world' ! For ever and ever And Love. amen
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Post by Commonman on May 24, 2016 3:32:59 GMT -5
One of many sites , even though : Engineering evolution! If you don't like that one, then do your own search The truth is the truth, even if you disagree with it, dmch. The truth is indeed out there. That is why the vast majority of christian denominations support the theory of evolution. There is just too much data to deny that evolution happens. You have fallen into the maze of conspiracy theories. Why are there sinful ideas about theories of creation? Should we allow people to sin , or should humans define what sin is?? What do you think is the reason for "sin" to exist? Surely if it is sin the it is wrong, in a sinfree World would we understand that sin is wrong?? There is a promise that we can inherit a sinfree world , if that is truly what we want . Understand that there is one that there is order in a perfect world' ! For ever and ever And Love. amen So if God knows that we are sinning, should He Stop us? God allowed Satan to deceive mankind and he has continued to torture and sin against God, and God listens to those that are grieving because There is no sin that Is unforgivable , (Except blasphemy against our creator)
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Post by Commonman on May 24, 2016 3:46:33 GMT -5
Consider all the grievous torturous sin that was allowed to happen to Jesus , in His short life mocking, stripes, wounds , Calvary cross Yet He was sinless.
God allowed this...yet Jesus in his love , prayed and asked God to forgive them, for they do not understand what they were doing.
They were exceeding cruel in their treatment of Jesus, and yet Jesus did not sin in all their cruelty. And yet He Did not blame God for what they were doing to Him
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Post by Commonman on May 24, 2016 3:47:15 GMT -5
Consider all the grievous torturous sin that was allowed to happen to Jesus , in His short life mocking, stripes, wounds , Calvary cross Yet He was sinless.
God allowed this...yet Jesus in his love , prayed and asked God to forgive them, for they do not understand what they were doing.
They were exceeding cruel in their treatment of Jesus, and yet Jesus did not sin in all their cruelty. And yet He Did not blame God for what they were doing to Him
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Post by Commonman on May 24, 2016 4:21:09 GMT -5
How should a person "comfort" someone they love, that is suffering a grievous "wrong" that was inflicted upon them by another human being, Whether it be emotional, injury, death of a loved?
Comfort is a wonderful spiritual aid there is a God of comfort, that is well able to comfort any and all that believe in Him !
That is Gods way and the only real comfort that we can get.
Consoling hearts. May God comfort you in your misfortune , just as the Good Samaritan will also comfort those.
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Post by rational on May 24, 2016 9:54:28 GMT -5
Here is a feeble effort to understand the complex and design elements in life cells. : Let there be a 3D puzzle of a trillion pieces that each is too small for a human eye to differentiate. <SNIP> Consider this: People who work with Escherichia coli (E. coli) do not like the odor. It basically smells like feces. But if they order a bit of DNA that will produce wintergreen and add it to the E. coli's DNA it will smell like wintergreen. It is not too complex to understand. There are machines that can 'print' any sequence of DNA that you need. And that DNA can then be joined to other DNA. Perhaps to produce a human kidney in a growing pig. Or to induce a cow to produce human blood. A little more about it from npr.orgDNA can be created to order to develop desired characteristics. And the design is developed by the person ordering the sequence.
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Post by Commonman on May 24, 2016 10:03:36 GMT -5
Here is a feeble effort to understand the complex and design elements in life cells. : Let there be a 3D puzzle of a trillion pieces that each is too small for a human eye to differentiate. <SNIP> Consider this: People who work with Escherichia coli (E. coli) do not like the odor. It basically smells like feces. But if they order a bit of DNA that will produce wintergreen and add it to the E. coli's DNA it will smell like wintergreen. It is not too complex to understand. There are machines that can 'print' any sequence of DNA that you need. And that DNA can then be joined to other DNA. Perhaps to produce a human kidney in a growing pig. Or to induce a cow to produce human blood. A little more about it from npr.orgDNA can be created to order to develop desired characteristics. And the design is developed by the person ordering the sequence. Yes but each cell has all the information (DNA), yet that cell will only comprise a fraction of the whole organism . This is not only a remarkable sign of design but it involves each cell filling a specific need of the organism , without fighting no less!!
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Post by rational on May 24, 2016 10:42:16 GMT -5
Yes but each cell has all the information (DNA), yet that cell will only comprise a fraction of the whole organism . This is not always the case. Cancer cells?
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Post by Commonman on May 24, 2016 15:39:37 GMT -5
Cancer cells do not fight or even exist in a perfect world, whether you believe it or not ! Sin and death entered the world via the serpent AND human disobedience.
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Post by rational on May 24, 2016 17:20:05 GMT -5
Cancer cells do not fight or even exist in a perfect world, whether you believe it or not ! Sin and death entered the world via the serpent AND human disobedience. If this is what you actually believe there is little for us to discuss.
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Post by Commonman on May 24, 2016 19:04:27 GMT -5
Cancer cells do not fight or even exist in a perfect world, whether you believe it or not ! Sin and death entered the world via the serpent AND human disobedience. If this is what you actually believe there is little for us to discuss. I am very interested in learning about real history about the world and especially human beings that inhabit it, If you have any proof that evolution has not been the agenda of the site: engineering evolution , speak up . Intelligent design does not address the nature of sin and human disease, though it seems that Is what is being demanded of it , therefore I will bring it to the forefront. Designed and hostilely compromised and deceived by a proud illusionist...... hmmmmm
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Post by dmmichgood on May 24, 2016 19:12:42 GMT -5
God named the stars ! Darwin and Huxley got their idea from pagan religion Which idea? Evolution or the names of the stars? Can you be more specific?
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Post by dmmichgood on May 24, 2016 19:18:19 GMT -5
Yes there are plenty of sites that are filled I ask for a references as to Darwin's work being based on any freemasonry objective?
If there are there are "plenty" can't you at least give me one that you believe to be actuate without me having to go through a whole bunch?
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Post by dmmichgood on May 24, 2016 19:23:51 GMT -5
The zodiac proves that Charley Darwin book Is hogwash! How does the zodiac prove that "Charles Darwin book" wrong? How does the zodiac fit in the equation?
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Post by dmmichgood on May 24, 2016 19:48:44 GMT -5
One of many sites , even though : Engineering evolution! If you don't like that one, then do your own search The truth is the truth, even if you disagree with it, dmch. Thank you for that link: "Engineering evolution!" I found it.
I always like to check not only the info in a link itself but who is presenting that information. The source of the material often tells you a lot as how much you can depend on the information to be factual.
As I am sure you are aware, one can't believe everything on the internet!
NewsWithViews.com, the source of "Engineering evolution!" article. NewsWithViews.com statement as to who they are is enlightening! "We believe in God and our Lord Jesus Christ the Savior of mankind."
So how can I have any confidence that they aren't going to be just a teeny, tiny biased, -even perhaps making up their information out of whole cloth without any facts to back up their claim?
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Post by dmmichgood on May 24, 2016 19:56:03 GMT -5
Do a google search for: evolution conspiracy and Freemasonry . Charley's grandfathers name (Erasmus Darwin) will be there!! It is common knowledge, at least in the field of science, that Charles Darwin' grandfather's name was Erasmus Darwin, -a scientist in his own right. No doubt he had influence on Darwin's own thinking.
So what is your point?
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