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Post by friend on Jan 9, 2018 13:17:47 GMT -5
evidence is somewhat open to interpretation, what we build on this evidence , will direct us to our beliefs/theories/ facts.. just so nobody meddles with this evidence, it needs to be guarded as sacred, as our own lives depend on the correct interpretation of it. I reckon you do not understand much about evidence at all. faith is the substance of (. ...), and the evidence of (things (that are not visable). ) hey hey maybe I can’t see it yet, but I can hope
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Post by friend on Jan 9, 2018 15:25:23 GMT -5
I reckon you do not understand much about evidence at all. faith is the substance of (. ...), and the evidence of (things (that are not visable). ) hey hey maybe I can’t see it yet, but I can hope here we have this word defined (its definition. in other words: faith is equivalent to evidence, and as such evidence is what you believe, theorize, the revelation of truth , and all other synonyms.
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Post by dmmichgood on Jan 9, 2018 16:26:06 GMT -5
faith is the substance of (. ...), and the evidence of (things (that are not visable). ) hey hey maybe I can’t see it yet, but I can hope here we have this word defined (its definition. in other words: faith is equivalent to evidence, and as such evidence is what you believe, theorize, the revelation of truth , and all other synonyms. Friend, I don't know the sources you use for your definitions of the words "evidence and faith," -but in our standard dictionaries the meaning of " faith is NOT the equivalent to evidence!"
In fact their meanings are the direct opposite of each other.
Definition of evidence:
1. the available body of facts or information indicating whether a belief or proposition is true or valid:
synonyms: proof, confirmation, verification, substantiation, corroboration, affirmation,
Definition of faith"
1. Complete trust or confidence in someone or something.
2. Strong belief in the doctrines of a religion, based on spiritual conviction rather than proof.
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Post by friend on Jan 9, 2018 17:46:52 GMT -5
do you have faith (aka: evidence ) that your definition is the only definition?
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Post by friend on Jan 9, 2018 17:49:25 GMT -5
evidence yields = trust, confidence, and faith . 👍 yep sir
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Post by dmmichgood on Jan 9, 2018 20:28:15 GMT -5
do you have faith (aka: evidence ) that your definition is the only definition? They aren't MY definitions. Unlike you, -I don't make us my own definitions.
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Post by friend on Jan 9, 2018 23:29:29 GMT -5
do you have faith (aka: evidence ) that your definition is the only definition? They aren't MY definitions. Unlike you, -I don't make us my own definitions. we both agree that faith means to put your trust in something. In order to trust something, we look for the evidence that it is worthy of being trusted ( its truth) Eh?
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Post by snow on Jan 10, 2018 15:14:49 GMT -5
They aren't MY definitions. Unlike you, -I don't make us my own definitions. we both agree that faith means to put your trust in something. In order to trust something, we look for the evidence that it is worthy of being trusted ( its truth) Eh? Actually no. Faith means believing in spite of there being no evidence. That's WHY it takes faith. There is no evidence.
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Post by friend on Jan 10, 2018 18:03:13 GMT -5
here we have this word defined (its definition. in other words: faith is equivalent to evidence, and as such evidence is what you believe, theorize, the revelation of truth , and all other synonyms. Friend, I don't know the sources you use for your definitions of the words "evidence and faith," -but in our standard dictionaries the meaning of][/i]In fact their meanings are the direct opposite of each other.[ /span]1. Complete trust or confidence in someone or something. 2. Strong belief in the doctrines of a religion, based on spiritual conviction rather than proof.[ ][/quote][ This is the repost of dmmch’s definition. {Complete___ trust} Nowhere is this trust conditional on having no evidence to support it I have faith that the sun will “rise” tomorrow morning, even if it’s cloudy and I can’t see it. I have faith in things that I trust. Sorry if you think having faith in someone means you don’t have Evidence that he can be trusted. I do agree to disagree completely,
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Post by friend on Jan 10, 2018 18:14:53 GMT -5
why would anyone claim faith, if there isn’t based on their personal interpretation of the knowable evidence. (Such as the pattern of the sun rising everyday—- ya, as long as the laws of nature hold and the earth doesn’t spin out Of orbit, or some cosmic disaster, it is almost guaranteed ( ... alas, if I pass On before the sun rises , I will not be able to confirm this, of course)
lol
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Post by dmmichgood on Jan 10, 2018 22:58:05 GMT -5
Your format was so messed up that I have spent way too much time trying to make it work, -so I have tried to rework it to make sense! yesterday at 14:25 you, friend said: -here we have this word defined (its definition.
in other words: faith is equivalent to evidence, and as such evidence is what you believe, theorize, the revelation of truth , and all other synonyms.
yesterday at 15:26 I replied: Friend, I don't know the sources you use for your definitions of the words "evidence and faith," -but in our standard dictionaries the meaning of] In fact their meanings are the direct opposite of each other. yesterday you, friend replied: [In fact their meanings are the direct opposite of each other.]
/span]1. Complete trust or confidence in someone or something.
2. Strong belief in the doctrines of a religion, based on spiritual conviction rather than proof.[
[[/quote] ]This is the repost of dmmch’s definition.
{Complete___ trust}
Nowhere is this trust conditional on having no evidence to support it
I have faith that the sun will “rise” tomorrow morning, even if it’s cloudy and I can’t see it.
I have faith in things that I trust.
Sorry if you think having faith in someone means you don’t have Evidence that he can be trusted. I do agree to disagree completely, -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- MY reply:
You DID NOT QUOTE my whole post between your [brackets!] YOU left out what I am now highlighting in red
[In fact their meanings are the direct opposite of each other.
Definition of evidence:
1. the available body of facts or information indicating whether a belief or proposition is true or valid:
synonyms: proof, confirmation, verification, substantiation, corroboration, affirmation,
Definition of faith:
1. Complete trust or confidence in someone or something.
2. Strong belief in the doctrines of a religion, based on spiritual conviction rather than proof]
You used only one part of my post misusing MY quotes to try to prove your own point That is a flagrant representation of another person's writing .
By your giving a mis-representation of of MY post whether with an intent to deceive or not, -you have invalidated your OWN post., -making it unnecessary to answer.
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Post by friend on Jan 11, 2018 17:23:26 GMT -5
Your format was so messed up that I have spent way too much time trying to make it work, -so I have tried to rework it to make sense! yesterday at 14:25 you, friend said: -here we have this word defined (its definition.
in other words: faith is equivalent to evidence, and as such evidence is what you believe, theorize, the revelation of truth , and all other synonyms.
yesterday at 15:26 I replied: Friend, I don't know the sources you use for your definitions of the words "evidence and faith," -but in our standard dictionaries the meaning of] In fact their meanings are the direct opposite of each other. yesterday you, friend replied: [In fact their meanings are the direct opposite of each other.]
/span]1. Complete trust or confidence in someone or something.
2. Strong belief in the doctrines of a religion, based on spiritual conviction rather than proof.[
[ ]This is the repost of dmmch’s definition.
{Complete___ trust}
Nowhere is this trust conditional on having no evidence to support it
I have faith that the sun will “rise” tomorrow morning, even if it’s cloudy and I can’t see it.
I have faith in things that I trust.
Sorry if you think having faith in someone means you don’t have Evidence that he can be trusted. I do agree to disagree completely, -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- MY reply:
You DID NOT QUOTE my whole post between your [brackets!] YOU left out what I am now highlighting in red
[In fact their meanings are the direct opposite of each other.
Definition of evidence:
1. the available body of facts or information indicating whether a belief or proposition is true or valid:
synonyms: proof, confirmation, verification, substantiation, corroboration, affirmation,
Definition of faith:
1. Complete trust or confidence in someone or something.
2. Strong belief in the doctrines of a religion, based on spiritual conviction rather than proof]
You used only one part of my post misusing MY quotes to try to prove your own point That is a flagrant representation of another person's writing .
By your giving a mis-representation of of MY post whether with an intent to deceive or not, -you have invalidated your OWN post., -making it unnecessary to answer.
[/quote] Oh dear, please forgive me!! hope it don’t happen agin?? trying to be a faithful friend. 🌈🙂
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Post by friend agin on Jan 11, 2018 17:29:25 GMT -5
Friend, I don't know the sources you use for your definitions of the words "evidence and faith," -but in our standard dictionaries the meaning of] [/i]In fact their meanings are the direct opposite of each other.[ /span]1. Complete trust or confidence in someone or something. 2. Strong belief in the doctrines of a religion, based on spiritual conviction rather than proof.[ ][/quote][ This is the repost of dmmch’s definition. {Complete___ trust} Nowhere is this trust conditional on having no evidence to support it I have faith that the sun will “rise” tomorrow morning, even if it’s cloudy and I can’t see it. I have faith in things that I trust. Sorry if you think having faith in someone means you don’t have Evidence that he can be trusted. I do agree to disagree completely, [
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Post by curlywurlysammagee on Jan 11, 2018 23:20:05 GMT -5
Friend, seen you have mentioned the sun coming up to you believe the account of the sun going backwards by 10 degrees that is mentioned in Isaiah 38. verses 7 an 8?
If so, could you give us the evidence of this happening.
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Post by curlywurlysammagee on Jan 12, 2018 0:02:50 GMT -5
Friend, seen you have mentioned the sun coming up to you believe the account of the sun going backwards by 10 degrees that is mentioned in Isaiah 38. verses 7 an 8? If so, could you give us the evidence of this happening. Friend, would you also be able to tell me whether you believe that the account in Joshua 10 of the sun standing still is true? If so please give evidence. It also says that the lord hurled hailstones. Do you believe that?
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Post by friend on Jan 12, 2018 4:41:15 GMT -5
Friend, seen you have mentioned the sun coming up to you believe the account of the sun going backwards by 10 degrees that is mentioned in Isaiah 38. verses 7 an 8? If so, could you give us the evidence of this happening. Friend, would you also be able to tell me whether you believe that the account in Joshua 10 of the sun standing still is true? If so please give evidence. It also says that the lord hurled hailstones. Do you believe that? oh yes, and any evidence that is trampled on, gets awfully polluted! lol good question, thanks for asking!!!
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Post by friend on Jan 12, 2018 5:09:13 GMT -5
evidence , (alone) , has no value!! , and yet we are all looking
for some!!
lol
faith without works/AKA:evidence ( ie: works) is dead...eh?
“You show me faith without evidence, and I will show faith BY how I live and think(evidence of faith)
We can’t say we have “faith in something” unless we prove it by demonstrating that we have confidence that It is , true.
There was a time when many scientists believed things that didn’t stand up to the tests, so they abandoned those ideas (alchemy) Now it seems to be they are revisiting these Abandoned theories??
lol
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Post by friend on Jan 12, 2018 5:22:12 GMT -5
i think the evidence of (the coral encrusted chariot wheels) in gulf of Aqaba
Would look pretty much like it is, But when we
date it to the times that Egyptian army was drowned there thousands of years ago, it is valuable evidence.
Even scientific!!
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Post by curlywurlysammagee on Jan 12, 2018 13:03:07 GMT -5
i think the evidence of (the coral encrusted chariot wheels) in gulf of Aqaba Would look pretty much like it is, But when we date it to the times that Egyptian army was drowned there thousands of years ago, it is valuable evidence. Even scientific!! I specifically asked for evidence of the sun being moved backwards and the sun standing still. Not something about chariot wheels. But do tell me more about chariot wheels in the Gulf of Aqaba. Have you any links to your statement so the forum members can look at the evidence and decide for themselves whether it is a crock of camel wee or not?
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Post by friend on Jan 12, 2018 13:56:11 GMT -5
evidence , (alone) , has no value!! , and yet we are all looking
for some!!
lol
faith without works/AKA:evidence ( ie: works) is dead...eh?
“You show me faith without evidence, and I will show faith BY how I live and think(evidence of faith)
We can’t say we have “faith in something” unless we prove it by demonstrating that we have confidence that It is , true.
There was a time when many scientists believed things that didn’t stand up to the tests, so they abandoned those ideas (alchemy) Now it seems to be they are revisiting these Abandoned theories??
I’m sure if you wanted evidence, you could find some
hey, the evidence you want is to observe a dead star colliding with the sun?
LOL
facts are facts, whether you or I understand how ?
I believe God causes miraculous events, even the parting of the great sea
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Post by curlywurlysammagee on Jan 13, 2018 20:37:17 GMT -5
So far you have not come up with one shred of evidence but a whole lot of ravings that would get the men in white coats visiting you.
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Post by friend on Jan 14, 2018 0:27:19 GMT -5
So far you have not come up with one shred of evidence but a whole lot of ravings that would get the men in white coats visiting you. there was a personal eye-witness to the event, and I absolutely trust His word . My story and i sticking to it,!
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Post by curlywurlysammagee on Jan 14, 2018 0:47:31 GMT -5
Personal eye witness in a book which is easily discredited from the very first words. Your evidence would get thrown out of any court.
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Post by friend on Jan 14, 2018 3:37:09 GMT -5
Personal eye witness in a book which is easily discredited from the very first words. Your evidence would get thrown out of any court. Not if the judge, was also the witness. 😉🍿
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Post by dmmichgood on Jan 14, 2018 5:32:14 GMT -5
So far you have not come up with one shred of evidence but a whole lot of ravings that would get the men in white coats visiting you. Yes, "friend" does a lot of that; -ravings, -makes kind of a word salad he throws together and seems to think it somehow shows us "evidence" that he knows something.
Maybe he got stuck on the tower of Babel and marooned there.
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Post by friend on Jan 14, 2018 7:58:13 GMT -5
So far you have not come up with one shred of evidence but a whole lot of ravings that would get the men in white coats visiting you. Yes, "friend" does a lot of that; -ravings, -makes kind of a word salad he throws together and seems to think it somehow shows us "evidence" that he knows something.
Maybe he got stuck on the tower of Babel and marooned there.yes, it makes it more enjoyable when i haf ta et my words? might you haf sum wordsalad dressings? ❤️
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Post by Repost on Jan 14, 2018 18:38:50 GMT -5
Chuck Darwin did finally admit that evolution wasn't his idea at all , in the late years of his life. It was a freemasonry objective, and quite sure it was due to the Mason's that his book was bought. by anyone. Probably their members were Required to buy it ? From what I heard , it is shear torture to read?? Eh?
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Post by dmmichgood on Jan 15, 2018 0:01:40 GMT -5
Yes, "friend" does a lot of that; -ravings, -makes kind of a word salad he throws together and seems to think it somehow shows us "evidence" that he knows something.
Maybe he got stuck on the tower of Babel and marooned there. yes, it makes it more enjoyable when i haf ta et my words? might you haf sum wordsalad dressings? ❤️ Yes, "friend" does a lot of that; -ravings, -makes kind of a word salad he throws together and seems to think it somehow shows us "evidence" that he knows something.
Maybe he got stuck on the tower of Babel and marooned there. yes, it makes it more enjoyable when i haf ta et my words? might you haf sum wordsalad dressings? ❤️ How about some vinegar with tabasco sauce + gall?
That might do the trick, -make you stop and think when you feel that you need to start babbling, eh ?
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