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Post by Evedently on Aug 28, 2019 0:22:43 GMT -5
Read some history about. Eber , it seems Eber was
One that did not participate in the “ Tower of Babel “
Fiasco? Thus. the language he spoke did not
become altered/confused ; resulting in Eber and his descendants We’re Hebrew speaking people, [thus?? ? ,
Abraham understood when God spoke to him..~~]
Just some thoughts on the Hebrew language origin
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Post by BobWilliston on Aug 28, 2019 1:00:34 GMT -5
Read some history about. Eber , it seems Eber was One that did not participate in the “ Tower of Babel “ Fiasco? Thus. the language he spoke did not become altered/confused ; resulting in Eber and his descendants We’re Hebrew speaking people, [thus?? ? , Abraham understood when God spoke to him..~~] Just some thoughts on the Hebrew language origin One way of knowing that Eber wasn't a "Hebrew" speaker is that the Hebrews didn't call themselves Eberites. Kind of how Anglo-Saxon became English.
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Post by Evidently on Aug 28, 2019 5:16:02 GMT -5
Read some history about. Eber , it seems Eber was One that did not participate in the “ Tower of Babel “ Fiasco? Thus. the language he spoke did not become altered/confused ; resulting in Eber and his descendants We’re Hebrew speaking people, [thus?? ? , Abraham understood when God spoke to him..~~] Just some thoughts on the Hebrew language origin One way of knowing that Eber wasn't a "Hebrew" speaker is that the Hebrews didn't call themselves Eberites. Kind of how Anglo-Saxon became English. Thank you for your response ! there is a very interesting script from a Hebrew scholar that I just re-researched i am sure your opinion would be very popular with many current etomologists.? yet as we all have some prejudice in our worldview? I would like to wonder where this discussion ever emerged ? would t it also seem logical that Eber also spoke Hebrew? (as did Noah, back to Adam) the the article written 1996 , : “did the Patriarch speak Hebrew?” says that hat it was . please share you considered opinions of this script! thank you
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Post by BobWilliston on Aug 28, 2019 16:59:04 GMT -5
One way of knowing that Eber wasn't a "Hebrew" speaker is that the Hebrews didn't call themselves Eberites. Kind of how Anglo-Saxon became English. Thank you for your response ! there is a very interesting script from a Hebrew scholar that I just re-researched i am sure your opinion would be very popular with many current etomologists.? yet as we all have some prejudice in our worldview? I would like to wonder where this discussion ever emerged ? would t it also seem logical that Eber also spoke Hebrew? (as did Noah, back to Adam) the the article written 1996 , : “did the Patriarch speak Hebrew?” says that hat it was . please share you considered opinions of this script! thank you You're out of your depth. Adam spoke Sanskrit. Abraham spoke Farsi. Moses spoke Coptic Jesus spoke Aramaic. Paul spoke Greek. Trump speaks "American".
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Post by Deleted on Aug 28, 2019 20:35:17 GMT -5
Thank you for your response ! there is a very interesting script from a Hebrew scholar that I just re-researched i am sure your opinion would be very popular with many current etomologists.? yet as we all have some prejudice in our worldview? I would like to wonder where this discussion ever emerged ? would t it also seem logical that Eber also spoke Hebrew? (as did Noah, back to Adam) the the article written 1996 , : “did the Patriarch speak Hebrew?” says that hat it was . please share you considered opinions of this script! thank you You're out of your depth. Adam spoke Sanskrit. Abraham spoke Farsi. Moses spoke Coptic Jesus spoke Aramaic. Paul spoke Greek. Trump speaks "American". except for Jesus and Paul i am not sure where you got those others from...
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Post by Evidently on Aug 28, 2019 20:42:40 GMT -5
Hmmm, so you can dismiss the research of : Prof Gad Sarfatti .
His analysis is quite overwhelming, imo
If the Israelites didn’t understand Hebrew? , why
Would people call them Hebraic people, even before
they learned to write Hebrew?
And besides all this, the Hebrew people considered
Hebrew to be the sacred language that’s Eber/Heber used
And the language of the Torah and the Ten Commandments.
In My opinion , and Professor Sarfatti .
Thanks!
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Post by Evidently on Aug 28, 2019 20:49:43 GMT -5
You're out of your depth. Adam spoke Sanskrit. Abraham spoke Farsi. Moses spoke Coptic Jesus spoke Aramaic. Paul spoke Greek. Trump speaks "American". except for Jesus and Paul i am not sure where you got those others from... Thanks for help! ! I read in the article written by Prof Sarfatti ( please read it, thanks) That Abraham/Abram was at least bi lingual , and possibly more He was wanting to settle in an area where Hebrew was the common tongue Just read , “did the Patriarchs speak Hebrew” by prof Sarfatti It’s well documented Thanks
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Post by BobWilliston on Aug 28, 2019 21:54:25 GMT -5
You're out of your depth. Adam spoke Sanskrit. Abraham spoke Farsi. Moses spoke Coptic Jesus spoke Aramaic. Paul spoke Greek. Trump speaks "American". except for Jesus and Paul i am not sure where you got those others from... But I know.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 28, 2019 21:58:00 GMT -5
except for Jesus and Paul i am not sure where you got those others from... But I know. one of the weakest proofs i have ever heard....
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Post by BobWilliston on Aug 28, 2019 22:19:04 GMT -5
one of the weakest proofs i have ever heard.... Pay me -- I'll give you a course in linguistic history.
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Post by Evidently on Aug 29, 2019 7:41:51 GMT -5
one of the weakest proofs i have ever heard.... Pay me -- I'll give you a course in linguistic history. So then, as long as you can explain where the sacred language came from?? You know, the one that Our Creator used when He etched the Ten Commandments on 2 tables of stone, before Moses broke them , and they needed to get redone by Moses.. Hmmmm 😉 Thank you
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Post by BobWilliston on Aug 29, 2019 17:58:08 GMT -5
Pay me -- I'll give you a course in linguistic history. So then, as long as you can explain where the sacred language came from?? You know, the one that Our Creator used when He etched the Ten Commandments on 2 tables of stone, before Moses broke them , and they needed to get redone by Moses.. Hmmmm 😉 Thank you There is no sacred language. Wherever did you get that silly notion?
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Post by Evidently on Aug 29, 2019 18:05:46 GMT -5
The Hebrews !!
Lashon Ha-Kodesh. 😉
Thank you.
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Post by Evidently on Aug 29, 2019 18:25:50 GMT -5
And yes, there is an article that is online that you might find time to peruse.
“Why is Hebrew called the Holy tongue?”
Hmmm
Thanks
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Post by BobWilliston on Aug 29, 2019 18:38:50 GMT -5
The Hebrews !! Lashon Ha-Kodesh. 😉 Thank you. The Hebrew language is a derivative of the same ancient Semitic origins as modern Arabic. Lashon Ha-Kodesh was developed in the Middle Ages by European Jews. "Lashon Hakodesh is a Jewish term and appellation attributed to the Hebrew language, or sometimes to a mix of Hebrew and Aramaic, in which its religious texts and prayers were written, and served, during the Medieval Hebrew era, for religious purposes, liturgy and Halakha – in contrary to the secular tongue, which served for the routine daily needs, such as the Yiddish language." Somewhat in the way Latin is sacred to Roman Catholics, Greek is sacred to Eastern Orthodox, Arabic is sacred to Muslims, Aramaic is sacred to St. Thomas Christians, and Gibberish is sacred to Pentecostals, Hebrew is sacred to modern Jews.
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Post by BobWilliston on Aug 29, 2019 18:44:02 GMT -5
And yes, there is an article that is online that you might find time to peruse. “Why is Hebrew called the Holy tongue?” Hmmm Thanks They considered them God's chosen people, thus their language sacred. Kind of like Americans who think the Bible was written in English.
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Post by Evidently on Aug 29, 2019 20:02:02 GMT -5
And yes, there is an article that is online that you might find time to peruse. “Why is Hebrew called the Holy tongue?” Hmmm Thanks They considered them God's chosen people, thus their language sacred. Kind of like Americans who think the Bible was written in English. Yes, evidently they (Hebrew ) considered this their tongue. It’s been with them since Heber (Eber) and the confusion Of the languages at the Tower of Babel ( and for good reason! it’s the Holy language ) Hope you did read the article , “Why is Hebrew called the Holy tongue” [for starters it was empty of lewd words for naughty acts and body parts] An incredible history. And the language of the arc of the covenant and it’s utterances. Hmmm Thank you
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Post by BobWilliston on Aug 29, 2019 20:49:13 GMT -5
They considered them God's chosen people, thus their language sacred. Kind of like Americans who think the Bible was written in English. Yes, evidently they (Hebrew ) considered this their tongue. Are you suggesting that the Hebrews considered the Medieval to be theirs. They weren't alive to even know about that one. Patently unreasonable. That makes as much sense as saying that your "English" has been with us from the days of the Anglo-Saxons. Ridiculous. Languages were "confused" long before anything like the Tower of Babel. I'm not even going to read that article. Why? For the same reason that I wouldn't read an article entitles "Why the pope is infallible." You need a good course in Hebrew euphemisms. For the same reason we say in English "He slept with her" instead of "He banged her", Hebrews would say "She washed his feet". No one uses slang and forbidden language is history and religious writing. But there certainly were forbidden words in Hebrew. Coincidentally, one of the Hebrew words that was forbidden to utter was the name of the god of the Hebrews -- it doesn't even appear in the Bible. No self respecting Jew to this day will utter it -- I tried to bribe one and no luck. When the Hebrews left Egypt they were a mixed multitude/diverse crowd (Exodus 12:38), not a unified population. They obviously assimilated into a "nation", but their tribes lasted. My own brother in law has DNA identifying his original Hebrew tribe. Who has seen the writing in the arc to know what language it was written in?
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Post by Evidently on Aug 29, 2019 21:43:20 GMT -5
And yes, there is an article that is online that you might find time to peruse. “Why is Hebrew called the Holy tongue?” Hmmm Thanks They considered them God's chosen people, thus their language sacred. Kind of like Americans who think the Bible was written in English. So, you don’t believe Hebrew was their tongue, yet you say that they considered it theirs? Doesn’t compute? Hmmmm😉
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Post by Evidently on Aug 29, 2019 21:53:40 GMT -5
All the Hebrew names and places were originally named “other names” ??
It’s much less of a problem of thinking the children of Jacob being promoted to the children of Israel (Hebrew name)
Well, if you can find your link to your (nonHebrew) names of and in the Bible
I will be intrigued, until then there is far too much evidence
that God gifted the children of Israel the Hebrew tongue, via
Noah’s great great grandson Heber/Eber , who didn’t
Participate in the confusion of languages at Tower of Babel.
Thanks for your opinions (and those you studied under!
😉
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Post by Evidently on Aug 29, 2019 22:01:08 GMT -5
Yes, evidently they (Hebrew ) considered this their tongue. Are you suggesting that the Hebrews considered the Medieval to be theirs. They weren't alive to even know about that one. Patently unreasonable. That makes as much sense as saying that your "English" has been with us from the days of the Anglo-Saxons. Ridiculous. Languages were "confused" long before anything like the Tower of Babel. I'm not even going to read that article. Why? For the same reason that I wouldn't read an article entitles "Why the pope is infallible." You need a good course in Hebrew euphemisms. For the same reason we say in English "He slept with her" instead of "He banged her", Hebrews would say "She washed his feet". No one uses slang and forbidden language is history and religious writing. But there certainly were forbidden words in Hebrew. Coincidentally, one of the Hebrew words that was forbidden to utter was the name of the god of the Hebrews -- it doesn't even appear in the Bible. No self respecting Jew to this day will utter it -- I tried to bribe one and no luck. When the Hebrews left Egypt they were a mixed multitude/diverse crowd (Exodus 12:38), not a unified population. They obviously assimilated into a "nation", but their tribes lasted. My own brother in law has DNA identifying his original Hebrew tribe. Who has seen the writing in the arc to know what language it was written in? I would refer you to the studies of David Rohl. He has evidence that Hebrew was the language of Joseph , .. And preserved til they left Egypt(Moses) Yet, it seems you are not interested in other opinions?? Thanks
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Post by Evidently on Aug 29, 2019 22:22:33 GMT -5
There are Egyptian hieroglyphics that name Israel as the Country that the Hebrew people lived in when they returned to Israel , after the Exodus ( era of ~1500BC)
It seems the Hebrew people used what we consider the Hebree tongue.
Thanks
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Post by BobWilliston on Aug 29, 2019 22:32:56 GMT -5
There are Egyptian hieroglyphics that name Israel as the Country that the Hebrew people lived in when they returned to Israel , after the Exodus ( era of ~1500BC) It seems the Hebrew people used what we consider the Hebree tongue. Thanks What does that prove? In the US everything written about British Empire Loyalists of the day is in English. After they moved on to Canada no one suggested that they had a "Canadian tongue". By the way, in Jesus day Hebrew was practically a dead language except for religious occasions and studies. The Jews all spoke Aramaic, which actually has a far better chance of being a derivative of Eber's language than Hebrew could be.
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Post by BobWilliston on Aug 29, 2019 22:36:16 GMT -5
There are Egyptian hieroglyphics that name Israel as the Country that the Hebrew people lived in when they returned to Israel , after the Exodus ( era of ~1500BC) It seems the Hebrew people used what we consider the Hebree tongue. Thanks I'm curious. Where did you ever get the notion that the Hebrews spoke the language of Eber? Also, do you know what language Eber would have spoken?
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Post by evidently on Aug 29, 2019 22:47:51 GMT -5
There are Egyptian hieroglyphics that name Israel as the Country that the Hebrew people lived in when they returned to Israel , after the Exodus ( era of ~1500BC) It seems the Hebrew people used what we consider the Hebree tongue. Thanks I'm curious. Where did you ever get the notion that the Hebrews spoke the language of Eber? Also, do you know what language Eber would have spoken? [ Ok I will repeat : (I read about these things , thanks) please read the article that I referenced! “Did the patriarchs speak Hebrew”. (Preserved via Heber) Why is Hebrew known as the sacred language Both of these and there are others, if you read those! Thanks
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Post by Evidently on Aug 29, 2019 23:14:01 GMT -5
Oh, and Hebrew was called Ivrit before the Patriarchs founded the land called Israel,
Hmmmm
Thank you
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Post by BobWilliston on Aug 29, 2019 23:47:29 GMT -5
Oh, and Hebrew was called Ivrit before the Patriarchs founded the land called Israel, Hmmmm Thank you I've read the article. Two comments: (1) It's far more fanciful than informative. (2) It doesn't say very much of what you took from it.
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Post by Evidently on Aug 30, 2019 3:07:39 GMT -5
I'm curious. Where did you ever get the notion that the Hebrews spoke the language of Eber? Also, do you know what language Eber would have spoken? [ Ok I will repeat : (I read about these things , thanks) please read the article that I referenced! “Did the patriarchs speak Hebrew”. (Preserved via Heber) Why is Hebrew known as the sacred language Both of these and there are others, if you read those! Thanks And orher articles.....
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