|
Post by Alan Vandermyden on Dec 11, 2015 17:25:36 GMT -5
Perhaps "have*" is not the best word to be used here. The experience of some (this one included) is that our God never forsakes us, though we can easily lose "sight" of Him and Who we believe Him to be. Possibly even the more so upon attempting to describe the indescribable?
Else, like usual Alan, I fully share and embrace what you have expressed here. Smiles. Glad for such unity in perceived belief, Alan.
Finding it more frequently now with entire strangers, adding to my thankfulness in daily life. Agreed Dennis. The doubt, the questioning I express - and "having" - are in the long run all related to myself and my own pride. Now, I'd best be careful lest I hijack DD's thread here!
|
|
|
Post by bubbles on Dec 13, 2015 5:46:21 GMT -5
So what are we looking for here? Trying to explain the mysteries of life is challenging, but God would be a boring topic if there were no personal connection. How have you experienced God? My own experiences are a bit lame. I've felt the emotional tug that every churchgoer feels--usually during hymns--but I don't have much in the way of true God-experiences. I do remember one day sitting on a tractor, I was maybe 16, and emotions washed over me--some would call it being "bathed in the Spirit"--and I felt overcome by the glory of everything around me, I felt that I would gladly die for another person, anyone, that if God wanted me to give my life to the Work I would do so. (I never did feel the "call".) I sat on the tractor and cried for several minutes until the wave passed over me. The personal connection is what it is about. DD you have been asking this same question a number of times from memory I think. It is an enthralling topic. For me anyway. I like nothing better than sitting with people and asking them these kinds of questions. Not forgetting that it is a very personal intimate question and should people respond they are being open and vulnerable revealing their inner most private encounters with a higher power/ entity/god/ Lord/ King etc. No matter how big or small anyone else considers that to be. You dont have to be a worker nor even be "called" to experience what you are asking.
|
|
jigpeter
Junior Member
Hinga dinga durgan
Posts: 188
|
Post by jigpeter on Nov 28, 2016 14:13:10 GMT -5
So what are we looking for here? Trying to explain the mysteries of life is challenging, but God would be a boring topic if there were no personal connection. How have you experienced God? My own experiences are a bit lame. I've felt the emotional tug that every churchgoer feels--usually during hymns--but I don't have much in the way of true God-experiences. I do remember one day sitting on a tractor, I was maybe 16, and emotions washed over me--some would call it being "bathed in the Spirit"--and I felt overcome by the glory of everything around me, I felt that I would gladly die for another person, anyone, that if God wanted me to give my life to the Work I would do so. (I never did feel the "call".) I sat on the tractor and cried for several minutes until the wave passed over me. Whoa... A very similar thing happened to me at age 12. I was raking hay and was suddenly overcome by the magnitude of Jesus's sacrifice. Got out of the tractor and prayed. Cried for a while. Must be something about tractors. In all seriousness, I think now that the experience is far more reasonably explained by my belief in God at the time rather than God's actual existence.
|
|
|
Post by dmmichgood on Nov 28, 2016 16:38:04 GMT -5
So what are we looking for here? Trying to explain the mysteries of life is challenging, but God would be a boring topic if there were no personal connection. How have you experienced God? My own experiences are a bit lame. I've felt the emotional tug that every churchgoer feels--usually during hymns--but I don't have much in the way of true God-experiences. I do remember one day sitting on a tractor, I was maybe 16, and emotions washed over me--some would call it being "bathed in the Spirit"--and I felt overcome by the glory of everything around me, I felt that I would gladly die for another person, anyone, that if God wanted me to give my life to the Work I would do so. (I never did feel the "call".) I sat on the tractor and cried for several minutes until the wave passed over me. Whoa... A very similar thing happened to me at age 12. I was raking hay and was suddenly overcome by the magnitude of Jesus's sacrifice. Got out of the tractor and prayed. Cried for a while. Must be something about tractors. In all seriousness, I think now that the experience is far more reasonably explained by my belief in God at the time rather than God's actual existence. I think that you are right. Happened to me as well. (just not any tractor involved- Hey, I was a girl! Girls didn't drive tractors then!)
It no doubt happens to many children at that age. Puberty is a time in between being a child & becoming an adult.
Our emotions are all over the place. There is a reason that cultures all around the world initiate their youth into their religious beliefs at that particular time in a child's life!
|
|
|
Post by Jingle bells on Dec 26, 2016 7:46:30 GMT -5
|
|
|
Post by Miracles on Oct 26, 2017 7:38:51 GMT -5
Lots of miracles in the New Testament, many people healed, and some raised from dead even.
So I thought of how many were raised from dead in the Old Testament??
And on first count , I got , hmmm, 3? .
Elijah raised one, Elisha raised one, and then We read of another being raised from dead , kinda By an accidental incident.... (interesting)
Then I remembered some more interesting events.
It may be that Ezekiel has the record recorded raising of dead
|
|
|
Post by dmmichgood on Oct 26, 2017 16:52:41 GMT -5
Lots of miracles in the New Testament, many people healed, and some raised from dead even. So I thought of how many were raised from dead in the Old Testament?? And on first count , I got , hmmm, 3? . Elijah raised one, Elisha raised one, and then We read of another being raised from dead , kinda By an accidental incident.... (interesting) Then I remembered some more interesting events. It may be that Ezekiel has the record recorded raising of dead "Miracles?"
In order for a "miracle" to occur, -an event must ignore and defy the very laws of physics that the "creator" god himself set up!
That seems counterproductive to the idea of a god that is "never-changing."
How can anyone have faith in a god who doesn't even follow his own laws?
|
|
|
Post by snow on Oct 26, 2017 18:26:01 GMT -5
I still get the same feeling I used to get and attributed it to God. Except now it's while meditating. I think it's mostly about being quiet and centered and this allows us to shut off the never ending thoughts that are with us most of the time.
|
|
|
Post by xna on Oct 26, 2017 18:50:24 GMT -5
"Miracles?"
In order for a "miracle" to occur, -an event must ignore and defy the very laws of physics that the "creator" god himself set up!
That seems counterproductive to the idea of a god that is "never-changing."
How can anyone have faith in a god who doesn't even follow his own laws? Is this an original thought? It's a very good point.
|
|
|
Post by dmmichgood on Oct 26, 2017 19:26:10 GMT -5
"Miracles?"
In order for a "miracle" to occur, -an event must ignore and defy the very laws of physics that the "creator" god himself set up!
That seems counterproductive to the idea of a god that is "never-changing."
How can anyone have faith in a god who doesn't even follow his own laws? Is this an original thought? It's a very good point. I think so but even if it were an "original thought" of mine, -I know a lot of other peoples ideas helped me arrive at that conclusion.
|
|
|
Post by Poof on Oct 26, 2017 21:07:41 GMT -5
Is this an original thought?Ā Ā It's a very good point. I think so but even if it were an "original thought" of mine, -I know a lot of other peoples ideas helped me arrive at that conclusion.
[br I don't believe that raising people from the dead, is considered a "sin" in Gods eyes. So you get a pass if you wish to implement this technology. After all God did promise that He would raise us all up (For the elect , to sit in "heavenly places" Our hope and surety! (And the Faith of a grain of mustard )
|
|
|
Post by So on Oct 29, 2017 4:50:40 GMT -5
Whoa This quantum spookiness is a new science Christopher Fuchs , a quantum theorist , writes and Theorizes extensively on this His book QBism (Quantum Bayesianism ) Is available , and presents the view that quantum wave function as a āreflection of ignoranceā Hmm, āprobablyā is . š¤ Then if you want to explore a video of āSolomonic magic and Quantum scienceā: ; youtu.be/2mwz2ARM90gMore quantum spookiness Cheers
|
|
|
Post by Reward on Nov 18, 2017 7:34:53 GMT -5
Summary:
God created man, to enjoy a relationship with
Mankind fell
A covenant was made
God would even reward man, if man, would want to Re-enter a divine relationship with him.
God sees Job, a righteous man,
God sees Job as one that desires a relationship with God That is divorced from the immediate ārewardā system. (āshall we only have good all our days?ā )
Job patiently endured the trials and tests of satan , he has victory.
Finally , a man that does good, inherently because it Is the right thing to do, (not because God āput a hedge around him)
Do you need to be rewarded ? for doing āgoodā ?
God is very merciful, He has biblically promised that He would reward those that seek Him, yet, we know
It is the right thing to do, because we know He created Us because He wanted to have fellowship.
And it seems a bonus that not only we get the Privilege of this relationship and itās benefits, Their is a reward that human minds ācannotā comprehend, (It is a spiritual feeling . (Like āraptureā )
Itās a privilege to be alive. In my pinion. š
|
|
|
Post by Afraid on Nov 18, 2017 10:06:00 GMT -5
We do right , because it is the right thing to do. š
|
|
|
Post by And on Nov 18, 2017 10:08:00 GMT -5
We do right , because it is the right thing to do. š Our Creator promised great reward for doing so. š
|
|
|
Post by What is right on Nov 18, 2017 10:13:04 GMT -5
That is the million dollar question?
Yet , Adam (& Eve) found out right quickly! š¤
Some of us , it takes awhile ..š
|
|
|
Post by Right or wrong on Nov 18, 2017 10:18:06 GMT -5
Perhaps there had been no time in human history that humans are so utterly confused by the difference Between ā right and wrongā. Right? š¤š¤
|
|
|
Post by Right and wrong on Nov 18, 2017 10:22:43 GMT -5
Doesnāt our conscience tell us ..that .there is a big difference!
|
|
|
Post by CherieKropp on Nov 18, 2017 10:36:31 GMT -5
Do you distinguish between reward and salvation?
|
|
|
Post by Hmmmm on Nov 18, 2017 13:25:55 GMT -5
Do you distinguish between reward and salvation? I think part of the reward certainly could be mete out Earlier than salvation is achieved, yet , what value is a reward If it isnāt accompanied with salvation (blissful eternity)? Good question , and thank you for responding! š
|
|
|
Post by The. Earnest on Nov 18, 2017 13:30:16 GMT -5
Iāve heard that receiving the āHoly Spiritā is the earnest portion of Salvation.
|
|
|
Post by CherieKropp on Nov 18, 2017 15:46:45 GMT -5
Do you distinguish between reward and salvation? I think part of the reward certainly could be mete out Earlier than salvation is achieved, yet , what value is a reward If it isnāt accompanied with salvation (blissful eternity)? Good question , and thank you for responding! š Some might find this interesting: Is there a difference in Rewards and salvation?
|
|
|
Post by Si on Nov 18, 2017 19:16:21 GMT -5
And II Corinthians 1:22
|
|
|
Post by 2 on Nov 19, 2017 0:09:51 GMT -5
Here is the challenge of creation of the world.
And the downfall of satan..
The wrong thought was introduced into existence by satan, particularly, when he falsely reason that he (basically āevolvedā ) into being..
As being a created being with power to reason, he headed Down the bleak road of āthinking he was Gods equalā
God is , and God is , and God is eternal, always is , always was. (Period)
Humans are gently conceived using the concept of 2 unified concepts producing a family .
Certainly this would help us considerably in understanding That we havenāt been eternal beings,
Yet when ā prideā enters into a created, the potential for evil has been and is.
So it is, that God, by creating Satan, introduced a being that in turn, turned away from his creator, and This action is defined as āevilā. (turning away from God, pride in self importance, self ācreateā )
God did create satan. (Even though Satan cannot accept this concept)
Pride is the father of evil.
2
|
|
|
Post by 2 on Nov 19, 2017 0:57:28 GMT -5
So we can understand that satan turned from God
So also Adam and (Eve) disobeyed ( turned from God)
Yes I believe Adam was more responsible, and turned, And Satan was deceiving them to turn from God, He inticed Eve (the English name) to turn , and So this inticement became known (in context of English ) As eveās (turning) ( of bluntly speaking āher (Eveās) illā mistake)
just saying
|
|
|
Post by 2 on Nov 19, 2017 7:13:58 GMT -5
It is interesting to me that English/British language is quite Hebrewic (even the name British , is Hebrew for (Brit=covenant) (ish= man). )
|
|
|
Post by rational on Nov 19, 2017 16:25:48 GMT -5
It is interesting to me that English/British language is quite Hebrewic (even the name British , is Hebrew for (Brit=covenant) (ish= man). ) This idea by Richard Brothers has been discounted so many times it is not worth the effort of writing it all down.h Man of the covenant in Hebrew is ish brit and not brit ish. But don't let facts get in the way of your wishful thinking.
|
|
|
Post by Si on Nov 19, 2017 20:03:22 GMT -5
It is interesting to me that English/British language is quite Hebrewic (even the name British , is Hebrew for (Brit=covenant) (ish= man). ) This idea by Richard Brothers has been discounted so many times it is not worth the effort of writing it all down.h Man of the covenant in Hebrew is ish brit and not brit ish. But don't let facts get in the way of your wishful thinking. One rebuke stated : it would be more correct to Say āish Britā, since Hebrew reads ( right to left) I wish I knew why ? āļø
|
|