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Post by xna on Nov 5, 2015 20:01:38 GMT -5
"...However I would suggest that anyone who feels the need to post 105 times in 3 days on the subject of a minority religion is the type of person I'd be advising someone seeking help to get out of a cult to stay away from" Agree @matt10. Am entirely sceptical about an altruistic intent. Believe it is time for admin to step in. This sort of incitement will have more harmful consequences. If I'm right, this is not the first time for @simpleton to post on TMB, but under a different name. One very much like him posted before and said once he got out of school he would return to post on TMB. Then again my stylometric identification algorithm might be on the blink, and this really is @simpleton's TMB dubut. @simpleton am I getting warm?
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Post by dmmichgood on Nov 5, 2015 20:25:04 GMT -5
"...However I would suggest that anyone who feels the need to post 105 times in 3 days on the subject of a minority religion is the type of person I'd be advising someone seeking help to get out of a cult to stay away from" Agree @matt10. Am entirely sceptical about an altruistic intent. Believe it is time for admin to step in. This sort of incitement will have more harmful consequences. If I'm right, this is not the first time for @simpleton to post on TMB, but under a different name. One very much like him posted before and said once he got out of school he would return to post on TMB. Then again my stylometric identification algorithm might be on the blink, and this really is @simpleton's TMB dubut. @simpleton am I getting warm? hum..., if so, seems that school with it's much " 'learnin' hast really gone to his head!"
His ego seems to know no bounds!
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Post by dmmichgood on Nov 5, 2015 20:37:02 GMT -5
"...However I would suggest that anyone who feels the need to post 105 times in 3 days on the subject of a minority religion is the type of person I'd be advising someone seeking help to get out of a cult to stay away from" Agree @matt10. Am entirely sceptical about an altruistic intent. Believe it is time for admin to step in. This sort of incitement will have more harmful consequences. Oh, -Goodness, yes!
Some of us might die from humiliation! Oh, the ignominy of it! The disgrace of it all! -knowing we are so unintelligent, and so unable to ever reach that high plateau upon which he sits.
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Post by joanna on Nov 5, 2015 21:34:44 GMT -5
HA. The only well- considered presentation to date is the name choice.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 5, 2015 22:01:43 GMT -5
Simpleton, you say you believe in God but there is nothing Godly about this post, or many of your others. One from of your list (above) strikes me as really unbelievable, telling people to set their phone to ring during prayer time. Why? This is a time when we close our eyes to the world and open our hearts to God. When we pray for others who are suffering, ask for strength that we may need to get is through and thank him for our blessings (in our meeting anyway) how could you say that you believe in God yet say something so bad? And that goes for telling anyone, in any church to do these things! Number 8, ask for hymn 666 the number of the beast?... This is terrible! If you truly believe, then you seriously need to go to God, and pray and ask him to guide you. Because those things you have written above, aren't from God. It's wrong to be underhand and its wrong to be deceitful, it's wrong to teach a child to rebel in this way and its not Godly to say the things that you've been saying on this site. I saw on another thread where you have ways of how to turn your partner against their church by bringing them and surrounding then with "nice" people from other churches. If you truly believe you are following the right way, then the strength of the spirit in your heart would be teaching your partner the right way. You wouldn't have to deceive them, or be underhand. Christ by the spirit within your heart would give you what to say to your partner. Gods spirit within would bring them. They wouldn't have to deceive them in any way they would attend their partners church willingly because they would see the spirit of God in them. And we have to follow what we believe in our hearts willingly. Not be tricked or forced into anything. It's not being around nice people. It's bringing those who you love the truth in God and letting his spirit live through you so that they see Christ in your life. And it will be through the spirit of Christ that you will bring those you love to God. Not by the deceptive heart of man. Deceitfulness is from Satan! I have been praying to God for a long time. I do not write these things myself, I have the Holy Spirit to guide me. Only God understands the things God does. I am just his servant. Who am I to question why. Looking at what I wrote, I can only guess that the God must think there is Satan in those meetings. I truly don't know. May the Peace of the Lord be with you Always.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 5, 2015 23:11:36 GMT -5
"...However I would suggest that anyone who feels the need to post 105 times in 3 days on the subject of a minority religion is the type of person I'd be advising someone seeking help to get out of a cult to stay away from" Agree @matt10. Am entirely sceptical about an altruistic intent. Believe it is time for admin to step in. This sort of incitement will have more harmful consequences. Goodness, an admin! You don't say! What are the harmful consequences you are thinking about? Perhaps that the 2x2s will lose more members? That there will be less Bed & Breakfast homes in the Network for the workers? That there will be less money for the overseers' accounts? That there will be less children for worker pedophiles to assault?
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Post by jj on Nov 6, 2015 0:02:17 GMT -5
If a child or anyone else feels as though the meetings aren't for them, I'd advise them to just be honest with their family and say so. I also believe it is important to respect parents regardless of belief or not, and chances are if you are honest and respectful they will be the same.
In the end you can't change anyone, and you mosf definitely cannot change someone's beliefs, and each person has to do what brings them happiness and peace.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 6, 2015 0:10:30 GMT -5
If a child or anyone else feels as though the meetings aren't for them, I'd advise them to just be honest with their family and say so. I also believe it is important to respect parents regardless of belief or not, and chances are if you are honest and respectful they will be the same. In the end you can't change anyone, and you mosf definitely cannot change someone's beliefs, and each person has to do what brings them happiness and peace. You really think a 2x2 parent is going to let their child go to a Catholic Church instead of meetings? If your parents or you would permit this, that's fantastic. That is not the norm among 2x2s. Most 2x2s try super hard to turn their kids into workers. More points in heaven of course.
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Post by dmmichgood on Nov 6, 2015 0:29:36 GMT -5
Simpleton, you say you believe in God but there is nothing Godly about this post, or many of your others. One from of your list (above) strikes me as really unbelievable , telling people to set their phone to ring during prayer time. Why? This is a time when we close our eyes to the world and open our hearts to God. When we pray for others who are suffering, ask for strength that we may need to get is through and thank him for our blessings (in our meeting anyway) how could you say that you believe in God yet say something so bad? And that goes for telling anyone, in any church to do these things! Number 8, ask for hymn 666 the number of the beast?... This is terrible! If you truly believe, then you seriously need to go to God, and pray and ask him to guide you. Because those things you have written above, aren't from God. It's wrong to be underhand and its wrong to be deceitful, it's wrong to teach a child to rebel in this way and its not Godly to say the things that you've been saying on this site. I saw on another thread where you have ways of how to turn your partner against their church by bringing them and surrounding then with "nice" people from other churches. If you truly believe you are following the right way, then the strength of the spirit in your heart would be teaching your partner the right way. You wouldn't have to deceive them, or be underhand. Christ by the spirit within your heart would give you what to say to your partner. Gods spirit within would bring them. They wouldn't have to deceive them in any way they would attend their partners church willingly because they would see the spirit of God in them. And we have to follow what we believe in our hearts willingly. Not be tricked or forced into anything. It's not being around nice people. It's bringing those who you love the truth in God and letting his spirit live through you so that they see Christ in your life. And it will be through the spirit of Christ that you will bring those you love to God. Not by the deceptive heart of man. Deceitfulness is from Satan! I have been praying to God for a long time. I do not write these things myself, I have the Holy Spirit to guide me. Only God understands the things God does. Looking at what I wrote, I can only guess that the God must think there is Satan in those meetings. I truly don't know. May the Peace of the Lord be with you Always. Are you quite sure that it is the The Holy Spirit leading you to teach children to act in such an obnoxious manner?
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Post by rational on Nov 6, 2015 2:29:46 GMT -5
]If 2x2ism preaches exclusivity (which very much is the 2x2 doctrine), then 2x2ism is a cult. A very unhealthy cult. Does this also apply to the Catholic Church's doctrine that they are the only true church? Or to christianity stating that it is the only path to salvation? That puts a lot of people in a cult. Including you.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 6, 2015 2:48:41 GMT -5
Simpleton, I don't use the term "Bitter ex" much because I hate the sound of it. I think its kind of derogatory. That being said, you seem to be bitter. Is there a reason you have some sort of vendetta. Did you have a bitter experience? It must be more than just the fact that you were raised in this. I would be more interested in your personal experience that causes you to post the way you do. I'm not bitter in the least. I only want to help people get themselves out of a cult. Cult are extremely difficult to get out of. There are many many people who have died because of being in some crazy cults. It's very important that people be aware of cults, and not support them in any way. Even small support for cults, keep the cults alive. funny thing is though it is counter productive for you because all it does is that it drives us closer to what we believe, were our faith is
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Post by Deleted on Nov 6, 2015 2:57:27 GMT -5
"...However I would suggest that anyone who feels the need to post 105 times in 3 days on the subject of a minority religion is the type of person I'd be advising someone seeking help to get out of a cult to stay away from" Agree @matt10. Am entirely sceptical about an altruistic intent. Believe it is time for admin to step in. This sort of incitement will have more harmful consequences. If I'm right, this is not the first time for @simpleton to post on TMB, but under a different name. One very much like him posted before and said once he got out of school he would return to post on TMB. Then again my stylometric identification algorithm might be on the blink, and this really is @simpleton's TMB dubut. @simpleton am I getting warm? yes he is very nasty, i remember one like that before, name i think started with an i
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Post by Deleted on Nov 6, 2015 3:01:11 GMT -5
If a child or anyone else feels as though the meetings aren't for them, I'd advise them to just be honest with their family and say so. I also believe it is important to respect parents regardless of belief or not, and chances are if you are honest and respectful they will be the same. In the end you can't change anyone, and you mosf definitely cannot change someone's beliefs, and each person has to do what brings them happiness and peace. yes my own father asked me when i was 14 if i wanted to carry on going to the meeting with them, my answer was no, and that was all there was said about it. i have huge respect for my father for that. God called me in 30s
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Post by dmmichgood on Nov 6, 2015 3:58:38 GMT -5
Simpleton, I don't use the term "Bitter ex" much because I hate the sound of it. I think its kind of derogatory. That being said, you seem to be bitter. Is there a reason you have some sort of vendetta. Did you have a bitter experience? It must be more than just the fact that you were raised in this. I would be more interested in your personal experience that causes you to post the way you do. I'm not bitter in the least. I only want to help people get themselves out of a cult. Cult are extremely difficult to get out of There are many many people who have died because of being in some crazy cults. It's very important that people be aware of cults, and not support them in any way. Even small support for cults, keep the cults alive. Oh my word! Really?
Seems it is true. Seems that I have read the history of some people who died, -burned at the stake for instance, -when they tried to leave a certain exclusive cult called Catholicism. I believe that was it's name.
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Post by Roselyn T on Nov 6, 2015 4:00:45 GMT -5
If a child or anyone else feels as though the meetings aren't for them, I'd advise them to just be honest with their family and say so. I also believe it is important to respect parents regardless of belief or not, and chances are if you are honest and respectful they will be the same. In the end you can't change anyone, and you mosf definitely cannot change someone's beliefs, and each person has to do what brings them happiness and peace. yes my own father asked me when i was 14 if i wanted to carry on going to the meeting with them, my answer was no, and that was all there was said about it. i have huge respect for my father for that. God called me in 30s Well @virgo all I can say is you were lucky you had a father who gave you a choice ! Because there were a lot of kids that didn't get given a choice !
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Post by jj on Nov 6, 2015 6:04:05 GMT -5
If a child or anyone else feels as though the meetings aren't for them, I'd advise them to just be honest with their family and say so. I also believe it is important to respect parents regardless of belief or not, and chances are if you are honest and respectful they will be the same. In the end you can't change anyone, and you mosf definitely cannot change someone's beliefs, and each person has to do what brings them happiness and peace. You really think a 2x2 parent is going to let their child go to a Catholic Church instead of meetings? If your parents or you would permit this, that's fantastic. That is not the norm among 2x2s. Most 2x2s try super hard to turn their kids into workers. More points in heaven of course. Perhaps I'm not really able to speak with authority, as even though I'm an ex I wasn't B&R, I had an atheist background. Every parent is different in what they allow their kids to do or not do, but I believe you have a better chance of convincing someone that your convictions/beliefs are sincere if you behave with dignity. After all my parents didnt let me go to meetings for years but then they saw it was important to me so eventually they let me. See even though I'm an agnostic now, even if I did have a religious belief I wouldn't go to church because nearly everywhere seems to insist THEY are the only way etc. and that gets old really fast. But Jesus said the kingdom of heaven is within you.
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Post by Gene on Nov 6, 2015 6:32:22 GMT -5
Many kids are trapped in 2x2ism by their 2x2 parents. Even though you feel helpless, you actually have a lot power to get free of 2x2ism. Remember that your parents as so confused by 2x2ism that the thing which will make them most happy is for you to become a Worker - the biggest waste of a life possible. You can try to talk to your parents about how messed up their thinking is, it won't help much. Your parents are in a cult, and it is a psychological problem. You can't reason with them. You also can't reason with the Friends. And of course you can't reason with the Workers. But there are some very important weaknesses in 2x2ism where you can be very effective. The meetings are where you can create all sorts of havoc. I have a small list of things you can do which will be incredibly powerful. Many of these things have been very successful with other kids. You can add to the list if you want. 1) In meeting when a request for hymn is made, respond with the last hymn in the book - the one for funerals 2) Do not open your bible or hymn book in meeting. Don't even take it out of the bag. 3) Talk about Leviticus 20:13 and passages similar (about sex) to it during meeting 4) Take a big chunk out of the bread during emblems even though you are prohibited from participating 5) Drink most of the grape juice when it comes by 6) Set cell phone alarm to go off during prayer time in meeting with a Catholic ringtone 7) Do not befriend other 2x2 kids. Avoid them at all costs. 8) Hymn # 666, the number of the beast, please 9) Start praying out loud by interrupting someone else 10) Lots of very loud ‘Amen’s 11) Pray to the Workers. Name some of them specifically. Especially pedophile ones 12) End your prayer with Hail Mary Full of Grace. 13) wear a very visible cross. Kiss it during meeting. Cross yourself many times 14) If you are banned from 'taking part' in meeting, just ignore them and keep talking. The only real way you can be prohibited from taking part is from barring you from being in the meeting home (which is exactly what you want). 15) Always remember that workers are just cult drones trying to indoctrinate you. Say anything you want to them. They can't do anything to you that actually matters. 16) imagine how much fun it would be to do this at convention or special meetings!!! These tactics are very likely to get your parents in trouble with the workers. That is the point. The more trouble your parents get into with the workers, the lower their status falls, the more likely they are to get into conflict with the workers, and the more likely they will be to start questioning 2x2ism. If your parents decide that they just won't take you to meetings, fantastic!!! The next step is to start going to a normal church. Talk to other kids at school and see if any of their parents will pick up and take you with them to their church while your own parents are at meetings. Remember, that as a child doing these things, you have not done a single thing wrong. If your parents abuse you for this stuff, report them to Child and Family Services for Child Abuse. When your parents explain to Child and Family Services that you did these things, the social worker will think your parents are insane. Make sure you tell the social worker that your parents are in a cult and are trying to force you to join it. A cult that is full of Child Sexual Assault. Mention the two 2x2s kids who recently committed suicide because their parents were tying to force them into this cult. And tell the social worker about the 2x2 websites that tell all about the cult. Remember, in this fight, you have far more power than your parents. Your parents are in the wrong. You parents are unknowingly abusing you by trying to indoctrinate you into a cult. You parents can be convicted of child abuse for doing this. Except instead of the the 2x2 fellowship, -if your parents are in the Roman Catholic Church, and you are attending the mass, follow these directions:
1) during the liturgy when responses are indicated , don't stand & repeat with the others the response but wait until the congregation is sitting and the priest is speaking, then stand up & repeat the response while HE (never SHE of course) is speaking.
2) start reading aloud Leviticus 20:13 while the priest is celebrating the mass.
3) Take the 'wafer' from the hand of the priest instead of allowing HIM (never HER of course) to put it into your mouth; then instead of swallowing it drop it on the floor.
4) take the grape juice out of the priests hand & drink nearly all of it
5) Set cell phone alarm to go off during mass with a loud pentecostal ringtone
6) Refuse to mix with the Catholic kids at your Catholic school. In fact, refuse to study or do any homework from your Catholic school until your parents stop making you got to a Catholic school & allow you to go to a public school or some other religious school.
7) During Mass, say a lot of lots of very loud ‘Amen’s. 8) Pray for the Priests. Name some of them specifically. "Father . ...," specially pedophile ones.
9) take off your cross, and play catch with it, throw it up in the air & catch it. See how many time you can do this with out it falling on the floor.
10) Always remember that priests are just cult drones trying to indoctrinate you. Say anything you want to them. They can't do anything to you that actually matters.
Actually, I am not advocating any of the above actions. I am a atheist but I do understand others need for their religious beliefs & emblems.
To act in such a manner as that & the way MR. Simpleton advocated is simply childish, demeaning of other people & irresponsible. It is NOT acting like an adult, and as an adult that MR. Simpleton claims to be, it certainly isn't very good advise for an adult to give a child.
Ooh - this is a fun list! Let's add to it! - at the next church basement bingo game, snap your rosary in two and use the beads as bingo chips - queue up for the communion line walking backwards while loudly reciting the lord's prayer backwards - sneak some weed into the incense burner - dip a finger in the holy water and scream "It burns! It burns!"
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Post by rational on Nov 6, 2015 9:27:16 GMT -5
Ooh - this is a fun list! Let's add to it! - at the next church basement bingo game, snap your rosary in two and use the beads as bingo chips - queue up for the communion line walking backwards while loudly reciting the lord's prayer backwards - sneak some weed into the incense burner - dip a finger in the holy water and scream "It burns! It burns!" - At any time introduce people to your invisible friend. I agree it is fun but always remember the reason for many of these posts:
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Post by Deleted on Nov 6, 2015 10:00:04 GMT -5
I am so sorry you feel so bad about your up bring.
I might not go to meeting but I would NEVER paint everyone in "Truth" with the same brush.
I was raised by professing parent who lived by faith in God, not in men. Did they make mistakes? Yes, but I have made mistakes with my 4 children also. What I value is the faith and trust in God that they lived before me and my siblings.
Please get some help for your anger, it is not healthy for you or those around you.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 6, 2015 10:21:26 GMT -5
Except instead of the the 2x2 fellowship, -if your parents are in the Roman Catholic Church, and you are attending the mass, follow these directions:
1) during the liturgy when responses are indicated , don't stand & repeat with the others the response but wait until the congregation is sitting and the priest is speaking, then stand up & repeat the response while HE (never SHE of course) is speaking.
2) start reading aloud Leviticus 20:13 while the priest is celebrating the mass.
3) Take the 'wafer' from the hand of the priest instead of allowing HIM (never HER of course) to put it into your mouth; then instead of swallowing it drop it on the floor.
4) take the grape juice out of the priests hand & drink nearly all of it
5) Set cell phone alarm to go off during mass with a loud pentecostal ringtone
6) Refuse to mix with the Catholic kids at your Catholic school. In fact, refuse to study or do any homework from your Catholic school until your parents stop making you got to a Catholic school & allow you to go to a public school or some other religious school.
7) During Mass, say a lot of lots of very loud ‘Amen’s. 8) Pray for the Priests. Name some of them specifically. "Father . ...," specially pedophile ones.
9) take off your cross, and play catch with it, throw it up in the air & catch it. See how many time you can do this with out it falling on the floor.
10) Always remember that priests are just cult drones trying to indoctrinate you. Say anything you want to them. They can't do anything to you that actually matters.
Actually, I am not advocating any of the above actions. I am a atheist but I do understand others need for their religious beliefs & emblems.
To act in such a manner as that & the way MR. Simpleton advocated is simply childish, demeaning of other people & irresponsible. It is NOT acting like an adult, and as an adult that MR. Simpleton claims to be, it certainly isn't very good advise for an adult to give a child.
Ooh - this is a fun list! Let's add to it! - at the next church basement bingo game, snap your rosary in two and use the beads as bingo chips - queue up for the communion line walking backwards while loudly reciting the lord's prayer backwards - sneak some weed into the incense burner - dip a finger in the holy water and scream "It burns! It burns!" It's wonderful to make fun of the other team isn't it?!!? But you do realize that there are no Catholics on this forum, don't you? No one cares about what you wrote. I suggest you take your list to a Catholic forum. Have some fun there.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 6, 2015 10:24:25 GMT -5
I am so sorry you feel so bad about your up bring. I might not go to meeting but I would NEVER paint everyone in "Truth" with the same brush. I was raised by professing parent who lived by faith in God, not in men. Did they make mistakes? Yes, but I have made mistakes with my 4 children also. What I value is the faith and trust in God that they lived before me and my siblings. Please get some help for your anger, it is not healthy for you or those around you. Did your parent let workers into your home? Do you realize that by doing that your parent was aiding and abetting a cult of pedophiles to have access to you as a child? If you can't understand that the problem with 2x2ism isn't the worship part, but instead the organizational structure which permits and facilitates child sexual assault, then I pray that you please get some help for your ignorance.
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Post by christiansburg on Nov 6, 2015 10:36:30 GMT -5
Many kids are trapped in 2x2ism by their 2x2 parents. Even though you feel helpless, you actually have a lot power to get free of 2x2ism. Remember that your parents as so confused by 2x2ism that the thing which will make them most happy is for you to become a Worker - the biggest waste of a life possible. You can try to talk to your parents about how messed up their thinking is, it won't help much. Your parents are in a cult, and it is a psychological problem. You can't reason with them. You also can't reason with the Friends. And of course you can't reason with the Workers. But there are some very important weaknesses in 2x2ism where you can be very effective. The meetings are where you can create all sorts of havoc. I have a small list of things you can do which will be incredibly powerful. Many of these things have been very successful with other kids. You can add to the list if you want. 1) In meeting when a request for hymn is made, respond with the last hymn in the book - the one for funerals 2) Do not open your bible or hymn book in meeting. Don't even take it out of the bag. 3) Talk about Leviticus 20:13 and passages similar (about sex) to it during meeting 4) Take a big chunk out of the bread during emblems even though you are prohibited from participating 5) Drink most of the grape juice when it comes by 6) Set cell phone alarm to go off during prayer time in meeting with a Catholic ringtone. Try doing this to your parent's cell phone or some old person's cell phone in the meetings. 7) Do not befriend other 2x2 kids. Avoid them at all costs. 8) Hymn # 666, the number of the beast, please 9) Start praying out loud by interrupting someone else. Memorize a prayer from The Book of Common Prayer. 10) Lots of very loud ‘Amen’s 11) Pray to (not for) the Workers. Name some of them specifically. Especially pedophile ones. 12) End your prayer with Hail Mary Full of Grace. 13) wear a very visible cross. Kiss it during meeting. Cross yourself many times 14) If you are banned from 'taking part' in meeting, just ignore them and keep talking. The only real way you can be prohibited from taking part is from barring you from being in the meeting home (which is exactly what you want). 15) Always remember that workers are just cult drones trying to indoctrinate you. Say anything you want to them. They can't do anything to you that actually matters. 16) imagine how much fun it would be to do this at convention or special meetings!!! These tactics are very likely to get your parents in trouble with the workers. That is the point. The more trouble your parents get into with the workers, the lower their status falls, the more likely they are to get into conflict with the workers, and the more likely they will be to start questioning 2x2ism. If your parents decide that they just won't take you to meetings, fantastic!!! The next step is to start going to a normal church. Talk to other kids at school and see if any of their parents will pick up and take you with them to their church while your own parents are at meetings. It's very important that you be a good kid in all other things. Get high marks in school, be nice to your parents, don't fight with your sisters and brothers, etc. Be good, and save your strength for making meetings a complete circus. Remember, that as a child doing these things, you have not done a single thing wrong. If your parents abuse you for this stuff, report them to the Police & Child and Family Services for Child Abuse. When your parents explain to Child and Family Services that you did these things, the social worker will think your parents are insane. Make sure you tell the social worker that your parents are in a cult and are trying to force you to join it. A cult that is full of Child Sexual Assault. Mention the two 2x2s kids who recently committed suicide because their parents were tying to force them into this cult. And tell the social worker about the 2x2 websites that tell all about the cult. And remember to tell the social worker that your parents invite and let the workers/pedophiles sleep in your home. Remember, in this fight, you have far more power than your parents. Your parents are in the wrong. You parents are unknowingly abusing you by trying to indoctrinate you into a cult. You parents can be convicted of child abuse for doing this. The name, slimpleton, properly applies to your posts here. Also, you suggest that you can still be a good kid through all of these simpleton acts of behavior. If you don't want to go to meeting just quit. It is as simple as that. You may create a lot division with you parents and arguments at home. They will eventually leave you alone. I am not sure how to explain the meaning of these Bible verses but they probably apply to you: "Answer not a fool according to his folly...but answer a fool according to his folly."
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Post by Gene on Nov 6, 2015 10:41:54 GMT -5
Ooh - this is a fun list! Let's add to it! - at the next church basement bingo game, snap your rosary in two and use the beads as bingo chips - queue up for the communion line walking backwards while loudly reciting the lord's prayer backwards - sneak some weed into the incense burner - dip a finger in the holy water and scream "It burns! It burns!" It's wonderful to make fun of the other team isn't it?!!? But you do realize that there are no Catholics on this forum, don't you? No one cares about what you wrote. I suggest you take your list to a Catholic forum. Have some fun there. Seems to have attracted your attention
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Post by Deleted on Nov 6, 2015 10:42:48 GMT -5
The name, slimpleton, properly applies to your posts here. Also, you suggest that you can still be a good kid through all of these simpleton acts of behavior. If you don't want to go to meeting just quit. It is as simple as that. You may create a lot division with you parents and arguments at home. They will eventually leave you alone. I am not sure how to explain the meaning of these Bible verses but they probably apply to you: "Answer not a fool according to his folly...but answer a fool according to his folly." You seem to have misread my post. I state in the very first paragraph that it is for kids who are trapped in 2x2ism. That their parents are forcing them to be indoctrinated. There is no way a kid can just say "Mom and Dad, I think I'll go to Catholic Mass on Sunday instead of meetings, Ok?" . The parents will not permit it. You seem to be living in a dreamland where 2x2 parents are the most liberal lenient people on Earth. That is not the case. If it was, then we would not have had those two innocent kids commit suicide recently because their parents were forcing them to become 2x2s. This 2x2 stuff is abusive to children. And then the 2x2 parents bring 2x2 pedophiles into the homes of the kids to assault the kids. What kind of sick parents would be 2x2s? Are you all so blind that you can't understand what you are doing?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 6, 2015 10:44:32 GMT -5
Yes, I do understand better then you know. I was abused as a child, but not by a worker.
I have tried very hard to fight against abuse within and without the "truth". I have lost my family because I have been willing to fight for those abused.
I will not condemn everyone because of a few bad people. There are sex offenders in every walk of life. It is the responsibility of the parent to BELIEVE and protect their children. It is the responsibility of everyone to turn in anyone they know is abusing children.
I do believe the friends have a lot more power to do something about abuse if they were willing. After all they control the purse strings. They could demand accountability by with holding the basic need of workers who refuse to acknowledge abuse among the workers and friends. I don't think most workers would do very well on the streets.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 6, 2015 10:50:51 GMT -5
Yes, I do understand better then you know. I was abused as a child, but not by a worker. I have tried very hard to fight against abuse within and without the "truth". I have lost my family because I have been willing to fight for those abused. I will not condemn everyone because of a few bad people. There are sex offenders in every walk of life. It is the responsibility of the parent to BELIEVE and protect their children. It is the responsibility of everyone to turn in anyone they know is abusing children. I do believe the friends have a lot more power to do something about abuse if they were willing. After all they control the purse strings. They could demand accountability by with holding the basic need of workers who refuse to acknowledge abuse among the workers and friends. I don't think most workers would do very well on the streets. I think you and I see this similarly then. The problem is not that the Friends are bad - they are actually almost all very good people. The problem is not that the workers are bad - they are actually almost all very good people. The problem is the organizational structure of 2x2ism. It is an extremely rigid top down hierarchical structure with absolutely no oversight by the Friends over the Workers. And then there is the complete lack of a written set of rules and doctrine. It's exactly like a system of despotism. It creates all sorts of strange unnatural behavior, without any controls to stop it.
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Post by Scott Ross on Nov 6, 2015 10:54:51 GMT -5
The name, slimpleton, properly applies to your posts here. Also, you suggest that you can still be a good kid through all of these simpleton acts of behavior. If you don't want to go to meeting just quit. It is as simple as that. You may create a lot division with you parents and arguments at home. They will eventually leave you alone. I am not sure how to explain the meaning of these Bible verses but they probably apply to you: "Answer not a fool according to his folly...but answer a fool according to his folly." You seem to have misread my post. I state in the very first paragraph that it is for kids who are trapped in 2x2ism. That their parents are forcing them to be indoctrinated. There is no way a kid can just say "Mom and Dad, I think I'll go to Catholic Mass on Sunday instead of meetings, Ok?" . The parents will not permit it. You seem to be living in a dreamland where 2x2 parents are the most liberal lenient people on Earth. That is not the case. If it was, then we would not have had those two innocent kids commit suicide recently because their parents were forcing them to become 2x2s. This 2x2 stuff is abusive to children. And then the 2x2 parents bring 2x2 pedophiles into the homes of the kids to assault the kids. What kind of sick parents would be 2x2s? Are you all so blind that you can't understand what you are doing? My parents allowed me to go to other churches with my friends. It was a good experience for me to do so, and I am very glad for the parents I had. So far, there is no need for the admin/mods to take any action regarding this thread. We watch and let the board members do their own style if moderating posts. Y'all are doing just fine. :-) And another thing. There are Catholics who are registered members here on the TMB.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 6, 2015 12:17:28 GMT -5
You seem to have misread my post. I state in the very first paragraph that it is for kids who are trapped in 2x2ism. That their parents are forcing them to be indoctrinated. There is no way a kid can just say "Mom and Dad, I think I'll go to Catholic Mass on Sunday instead of meetings, Ok?" . The parents will not permit it. You seem to be living in a dreamland where 2x2 parents are the most liberal lenient people on Earth. That is not the case. If it was, then we would not have had those two innocent kids commit suicide recently because their parents were forcing them to become 2x2s. This 2x2 stuff is abusive to children. And then the 2x2 parents bring 2x2 pedophiles into the homes of the kids to assault the kids. What kind of sick parents would be 2x2s? Are you all so blind that you can't understand what you are doing? My parents allowed me to go to other churches with my friends. It was a good experience for me to do so, and I am very glad for the parents I had. ScottRoss, Do you think your parents would have allowed you to enroll in a Catholic education program like RCIA or CCD? Basically a once a week, evening course for 1 year to explain Christianity from the Catholic perspective? Do you think there are many 2x2 parents today who would allow their kids to do this? Would you allow your kids to do this? I know many Protestant parents who allow their kids to go to Catholic education programs, because those programs are very well designed and very educational. In fact a priest at my church (not a Catholic Church) sends his two kids to a Catholic School. The point is, as many Protestants know, that Christianity is basically the same message in most of the denominations, so using the resources of another denomination if they are high quality, is quite alright.
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