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Post by bubbles on May 2, 2015 6:34:03 GMT -5
How are workers chosen to visit other nations for conventions? Is there a specific requirement?
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Post by Deleted on May 2, 2015 6:42:47 GMT -5
How are workers chosen to visit other nations for conventions? Is there a specific requirement? I don't really know, but I guess there must be some criterion; maybe a worker or ex worker with inside knowledge might be able to help. Interesting question though.
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Post by bubbles on May 2, 2015 6:46:45 GMT -5
Nothing to do with anointing?
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Post by Deleted on May 2, 2015 6:58:31 GMT -5
Nothing to do with anointing? Your guess is as good as mine on this one. Not talked about as far as I know.
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Post by Deleted on May 2, 2015 13:05:10 GMT -5
Nothing to do with anointing? What do you mean by "anointing"?
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Post by bubbles on May 2, 2015 14:16:59 GMT -5
Nothing to do with anointing? What do you mean by "anointing"? All christians have an anointing by the holy one because Christ is within. There are different anointings. I would presume it would be about something. They wouldnt send Jo Blogg. Is it teaching ability? Gift? Preaching ability? Gift? Isaiah 61"the spirit of the sovereign lord is upon me because the lord has anointed me to preach good tidings to the meek. He hath sent me to bind up the broken hearted, to proclaim liberty to the captives, and the opening of the prison that has bound. To proclaim the acceptalbe yr of the lord and the day of vengance of our god. To comfort all that mourn. To appoint unto all that mourn in zion , to give unto them beauty for ashes, the oil of joy for mourning. A garment of praise for the spirit of heaviness. That they might be called trees of righteousness, the planting of the lord, that he might be glorified." Some of my fav scriptures. The promises of god.
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Post by Gene on May 2, 2015 18:16:11 GMT -5
There is no anointing.
A nation-hopping-convention-visitor candidate must meet two criteria: His or her overseer's desire for the candidate to embark upon a convention tour, and a corresponding invitation from the receiving convention's(') responsible overseer(s). When the two criteria are met, voila (or viola, if you're orchestrally inclined), airline tickets are purchased.
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Post by bubbles on May 2, 2015 18:29:07 GMT -5
There is no anointing. A nation-hopping-convention-visitor candidate must meet two criteria: His or her overseer's desire for the candidate to embark upon a convention tour, and a corresponding invitation from the receiving convention's(') responsible overseer(s). When the two criteria are met, voila (or viola, if you're orchestrally inclined), airline tickets are purchased. Who pays for the ticket?
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Post by Gene on May 2, 2015 18:43:21 GMT -5
There is no anointing. A nation-hopping-convention-visitor candidate must meet two criteria: His or her overseer's desire for the candidate to embark upon a convention tour, and a corresponding invitation from the receiving convention's(') responsible overseer(s). When the two criteria are met, voila (or viola, if you're orchestrally inclined), airline tickets are purchased. Who pays for the ticket? In my experience, it varied. Friends who knew you were scheduled for a trip may provide funds with the expressed intent of paying for the ticket; the host may provide funds either in advance or in arrears; the home overseer may provide funds; the visitor, himself or herself may have plenty of funds in reserve (especially in the case of an overseer traveling -- one who has access to trust funds, except for Review007 whose country (NZ) has no trust funds for workers.)
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Post by bubbles on May 2, 2015 18:51:21 GMT -5
In my experience, it varied. Friends who knew you were scheduled for a trip may provide funds with the expressed intent of paying for the ticket; the host may provide funds either in advance or in arrears; the home overseer may provide funds; the visitor, himself or herself may have plenty of funds in reserve (especially in the case of an overseer traveling -- one who has access to trust funds, except for Review007 whose country (NZ) has no trust funds for workers.) Why doesnt NZ have a trustfund?
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Post by Gene on May 2, 2015 18:53:00 GMT -5
In my experience, it varied. Friends who knew you were scheduled for a trip may provide funds with the expressed intent of paying for the ticket; the host may provide funds either in advance or in arrears; the home overseer may provide funds; the visitor, himself or herself may have plenty of funds in reserve (especially in the case of an overseer traveling -- one who has access to trust funds, except for Review007 whose country (NZ) has no trust funds for workers.) Why doesnt NZ have a trustfund? No idea. Maybe Review007 can tell us. Or maybe there is a trust fund, but he (or she) hasn't been informed about it! Maybe they take literally that bit of scripture about not taking purse or scrip. Maybe Review007 doesn't carry a wallet; no cash of any kind; going by faith.
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Post by bubbles on May 2, 2015 18:59:56 GMT -5
When ive read on here about workers walking around with a $100 in pocket. They would have been able to have bank accounts to pop it in. Not that that bothers me. When I attended meetings I 'assumed'an overseas worker was there by invitation. Possibly because they were good at preaching. We called them preachers more than workers.
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Post by Mary on May 3, 2015 4:54:44 GMT -5
My mother was against calling them workers because many passages in the Bible use the term worker in relation to workers of iniquity. She said for this reason she called them preachers. Maybe that was a NZ thing.
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Post by Deleted on May 3, 2015 8:25:30 GMT -5
There is no anointing. A nation-hopping-convention-visitor candidate must meet two criteria: His or her overseer's desire for the candidate to embark upon a convention tour, and a corresponding invitation from the receiving convention's(') responsible overseer(s). When the two criteria are met, voila (or viola, if you're orchestrally inclined), airline tickets are purchased. See! I said that someone with inside information would be able to help.
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Post by Deleted on May 3, 2015 8:28:23 GMT -5
My mother was against calling them workers because many passages in the Bible use the term worker in relation to workers of iniquity. She said for this reason she called them preachers. Maybe that was a NZ thing. I wonder what made them cease calling the friends saints?
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Post by snow on May 3, 2015 19:09:35 GMT -5
My mother was against calling them workers because many passages in the Bible use the term worker in relation to workers of iniquity. She said for this reason she called them preachers. Maybe that was a NZ thing. I wonder what made them cease calling the friends saints? When they became a football team?
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Post by curlywurlysammagee on May 17, 2015 3:47:35 GMT -5
What about workers who are sent to preach in another country, what is the criteria for that?
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Post by emy on May 17, 2015 13:35:56 GMT -5
What about workers who are sent to preach in another country, what is the criteria for that? Willingness! And possibly knowledge of the language they need - or aptness to learn it.
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Post by Alan Vandermyden on May 17, 2015 22:38:29 GMT -5
What about workers who are sent to preach in another country, what is the criteria for that? Well, I've had a life-long curiosity about the Pacific - it's depiction as "paradise" and all that stuff (which I later studied at the University of Hawai'i). But I was also disinterested in any "touristy" visit to Hawaii'i, when my parents went there on business trips during my teen years. But, as I stood in line for breakfast one morning at Gilroy convention, at the completion of my second year in the work, Eldon Tenniswood (our overseer at the time) approached me and said, "I wouldn't mind a visit with you after breakfast." I was both excited and nervous, but his opening question caught me entirely by surprise: "How would you like to spend a year in Hawai'i with Harold Hilton?" Uh, sure! The following year, when Jay Jensen returned home (as in no longer in the work) from Guam, I was asked to go there (here!) to join Harry Henninger. The next year, Harry and I made a "field swap" with Kathy McLin and Julia Brist, who had been on Pohnpei. Likiep Atoll, in the Marshall Islands, had begun to appear in the picture, as a young, professing woman from Pohnpei had met a Marshallese man at college in Palau, and they married and moved to his home island. Harry and I made a three-week visit there (one week longer and we would have been "stranded" on the atoll for weeks or months, because the plane broke down!). The next year, Larry Taylor replaced Harry Henninger (both Unclarry here on Guam), for my second year on Pohnpei, which included two two-month visits to Likiep Atoll. I was asked to come back to California (well, I was actually in Las Vegas for a few months) the following year, with John VandenBerg replacing me out in Micronesia. "Willing" is a definite understatement for me! I became known as a definite island worker among the California staff, and I made sure to learn Marshallese very well in order to augment my chances of returning to the islands. It worked.
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Post by curlywurlysammagee on May 18, 2015 1:20:17 GMT -5
Thanks Alan, Can you tell us of the people that professed through the meetings over there. Were they already attending a church over there and if so, what sort or were they non believers of some sort? Without getting too mathamatical a bit of a break down would be good.
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Post by Alan Vandermyden on May 18, 2015 20:41:02 GMT -5
Thanks Alan, Can you tell us of the people that professed through the meetings over there. Were they already attending a church over there and if so, what sort or were they non believers of some sort? Without getting too mathamatical a bit of a break down would be good. Curly, eastern Micronesia (Marshall Islands, Kosrae, Pohnpei and Chuuk, with their surrounding atolls), were missionized by Congregational missionaries sponsored from Hawai'i in the mid- to late-nineteenth century. Thus the society at large is 'Christian by default," with other churches making enormous inroads too, the two largest being LDS and Assembly of God. SDA, JW, Salvation Army and Baptist also have a significant presence. People who professed mostly came from the old Congregational Church (now UCC). There were several professing in Pohnpei at one time (before I was there), but the only ones left are the lady we used to visit on Likiep Atoll (she now lives here on Guam), and a Kapingamarangi man who came to meetings/studies on Pohnpei for years, then asked to be baptized by the workers eight or nine years ago. Guam, as a Spanish colony since the the sixteenth century, is a very Catholic place. Only 4 or 5 native Chamorros have ever professed, the majority of the friends here being Filipinos, also of a Spanish/Catholic background. Many of them professed here on Guam; some in the Philippines.
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