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Post by snow on Mar 27, 2015 20:27:21 GMT -5
Good morning bubbles. Hope you get the opportunity to listen to the balance of the video sometime soon. I think you will find it well worth the time. I actually thought the last several speakers were the most interesting and exciting. Svante Paabo's presentation on Neanderthal DNA of course was very interesting though controversial. I like his manner; quiet confidence, very appealing. Diane Ackerman is the best! I luv Diane Ackerman. Really enjoyed her presentation. I would recommend any of her books, they are wonderfully written. The fellow from MIT, Noel Gershenfeld was a fellow from MIT, what more needs be said? Actually, I really enjoyed his presentation. If you ever want to see what a person looks like when they are passionate about their vocation/avocation, this is the segment to watch. I am not a big fan of futurists but I think this fellow may be on to something BIG. My fav, however, is the presentation by Michael Crow, the last speaker. I have never heard a better or more erudite description of "creative destruction". If I were to recommend one segment to be sure to catch, it would be his presentation, I found it very thought provoking. The earlier speakers, I was disappointed with. My veneer of tolerance for cute polar bears clinging tenaciously to little ice cubes is rubbing awfully thin. Like snow, I would really have enjoyed learning more about the Siberian flood basalts and the Permian extinction. This strikes me as a fascinating topic particularly as it relates to the evolution of our species from a very narrow base. Unfortunately, instead of enlightenment, I had be be lectured about my cowardly cynicism and denial . . . . Ggggrrrrrrrrr . . . . I guess those who control the messenger, control the message. Can't we all just get back to the science and leave emoting to real actors? My least favorite presentation was the lecture by Ian Tattersall, the paleoanthropologist. "Looking at the hominid family tree . . . ., find Homo sapiens totally intolerant of competition . . . " Give me a break! Again, I am growing weary of the mantra "Nature - good, Homo sapiens - bad". I guess in its own right it is an interesting phenomena, once one has reduced all existence to quantum mechanical waveforms there is little left to lend meaning to the life of a nihilist than for them to wander around looking for victims and villains. Yes, Homo sapiens may indeed have wiped all of their ancestral brothers and sisters off the face of the earth. Let's mark that down as Hypothesis 1. But then think of Svante Paabo's presentation just prior to Ian's. Notice that little piece of DNA linked to the immune system. Then think of the Bubonic plague, one third of the Homo sapien population of Europe was wiped out in 2 years. Then think of the transmission of the plague-resistant mutation that conferred limited immunity in a few individuals at that time and how that mutant now reappears as a possible source of AIDS resistance in modern populations. Might it not be possible that Homo sapiens survived a devastating plague due to a mutation not carried by our poor brethren? Perhaps, then too, Neanderthals and the others might have been erased from the fossil record over a geologically short period of time. Would it be "unscientific" to mark that possibility as Hypothesis 2 and at least discuss the implications? Anyway all of my negativity is getting in the way of what was in fact a delightfully interesting and informative conference. Once again, thanks snow for the link. Hope you get to watch the balance bubbles. Yknot Firstly I apologize this took so long. What a WOW this was for me. I listened a had to rewind so many times these guys are way out of my league. I found the comments fascinating and impacting... Im going to keep editing bz Im sick of dropping out and loosing text. This interested me. "We (homosapians ) deconstruct the world around us into mental images, symbols and rearrange in our minds. " ( I know cz I do this.) "Our minds have a unique capacity for innovation and complex planning.(I do this too) "Neanderthals never remade the world in their minds the way we do." 40,000 yr ago homadine species suddenly vanished. "We appear to be totally intolerant of competition. Whats more we are capable of enforcing this." I disagree with this last comment. Not everybody is intolerant of competition. Only competitive people of which I am not. Also as a species we care about other people generally. To prove this point look at how nations support another in time of need. 3-D point? How to turn data into things? This MIT guy ..lol..he lost me so frequently so fast. But what I can gleen from all the complex wording sounds waaaay third field. However believable to an extent. I do ask does this mean that they will be able to produce beef without a steer?? Now that kinda kills off the natural way things were created for us human beings. Digital fabrication. Blow up uni's? I can see that happening with the take over of fab labs. Creating what you consume? And they aint talking about my biodiverse garden..hmm I love nature. So I dont think I would like what hes suggesting. Now the last guy..man the language was so complex and condensed. I could easily rub shoulders with him for a while for him to impart some of that stuff. I dont mean that in a sexual way. I believe in impartation..maybe shouldnt have written that. He was a wealth of knowledge. He talked about the extinction of class based systems. Think hes right. Being an optomist he said "only opportunity lies ahead" I liked that. Yknot. I so enjoyed the excersize so thank you snow. I was listening and rewinding trying to understand them between cooking a 3 course meal for guests. It was a thought provoking talk for sure. I listen to a lot of those and love them. So much stuff out there to learn about.
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Post by rational on Mar 27, 2015 21:02:35 GMT -5
Here is what Valiant Thor Victor ONE spaceship looks like when his 200 crews and Vice-commanders, and families travel through the galaxies, planets, Venus and earth... On this site it shows Valiant Thor's wife embracing/holding one child. Go to the bottom and click on Craig C. a movie producer who was a friend of Dr. Stranges for 20 years. He tells some information about his short film movie Stranger at the Pentagon. www.strangeratthepentagon.com/Nathan, these photos are from a movie. A movie that won Best Sci-Fi Short Film at the Burbank Film Festival in September 2014. I assume you know what Sci-Fi stands for.
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Post by snow on Mar 27, 2015 22:20:27 GMT -5
Nathan all you need to do is watch some of the TV evangelical shows to know that pastors do focus on 'the money'. Many are very wealthy. I believe it's all science fiction regarding Thor also. There is no way anyone could ever live on Venus or below the surface, so that alone makes the story science fiction.
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Post by bubbles on Mar 27, 2015 22:39:33 GMT -5
Mlw I find it easier to say that the 3 persons or personalities form the godhead. One in work.
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Post by bubbles on Mar 27, 2015 22:41:48 GMT -5
Yknot. Yes lets but can we focus on one thing at a time. I have a sense you can teach me something. You choose. Snow There was so much to digest. How do you do it. I always found note taking helped me recall things.
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Post by maryhig on Mar 27, 2015 23:57:09 GMT -5
I think you might mean that the Father cannot be the Son, they are two separate people. I agree. But the Father, Son and Holy Spirit together make up God - or the God Head if you like to call it that. Why does the Father call Jesus God? Why does Jesus call the Father God. Because they are all part of God. He was begotten of the Father. He is on the right hand of the Father. So the Father is on the left hand of Jesus. If we are sons of God do you think we are equal to God? or have the same place with the Father as Jesus does - no? Just think of a human family, lets call them the Smith family. The father and son - they make up part of the Smith family but none of them are any less the Smith family. The father says his son is a Smith, and the son says his father is a Smith. The family name could be God, God consists of the Father and Son (and a whole lot of adopted children being us if you like). He prayed to the Father while on earth because he was made lower than the angels for the suffering of man. He went back to the father and is sitting on the right hand of the father. He is not lower than the angels now. That was only while he was on earth. Yes God cannot be tempted, that is why Jesus was not tempted (to give into sin) and he said of himself when he was being tempted by the devil, thou shalt not tempt the Lord thy God. You are right, God cannot die, Jesus came alive again. As it says the grave could not contain him - or words to that effect. His human body may have died but he came alive and was seen of others. He did not die and was seen ascending into heaven. Tempted doesn't mean not to give into sin, tempted means you were tried! Dictionary: tempt To try to get (someone) to do wrong, especially by a promise of reward. Jesus was tempted on all parts like us, thus making him not God. Hebrews 4:14 Seeing then that we have a great high priest, that is passed into the heavens, Jesus the Son of God, let us hold fastour profession. For we have not an high priest which cannot be touched with the feeling of our infirmities; but was in all points tempted like as we are, yet without sin God cannot be tempted James 1:13 Let no man say when he is tempted, I am tempted of God: for God cannot be tempted with evil, neither tempteth he any man: Jesus is in the express image of God. but he isn't God. Just like the moon uses the light of the sun to shine the sun's light onto darkness, Jesus uses the light of God, reflecting out to the darkness of the world. Hebrews 1:3 Who being the brightness of his glory, and the express image of his person, and upholding all things by the word of his power, when he had by himself purged our sins, sat down on the right hand of the Majesty on high; Col 1:15 Who is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of every creature Jesus is God's son, doing the will of his father. Not my will but thy will be done!
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Post by dmmichgood on Mar 28, 2015 0:29:07 GMT -5
Nathan, these photos are from a movie. A movie that won Best Sci-Fi Short Film at the Burbank Film Festival in September 2014. I assume you know what Sci-Fi stands for. Yes, I know what Sci-Fi stands for.... Valiant Thor story to most people is classified as Science Fiction. How can it be Sci-Fi when it's a True event?
"How can it be Sci-Fi when it's a True event?"
Perhaps Because it isn't true event?
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Post by dmmichgood on Mar 28, 2015 4:27:22 GMT -5
"How can it be Sci-Fi when it's a True event?"
Perhaps Because it isn't true event?
It's a TRUE event that took place in 1957-1960 at the Pentagon. I don't know why they called it's science fiction when it NOT.
Nathan, there is simply isn't any proof at all. None. The whole thing is impossible.
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Post by rational on Mar 28, 2015 8:17:35 GMT -5
Here is an AMAZING radio interview with Craig C. the movie producer. Craig met the 4 people who met Valiant Thor, Donn Thor, and two Venusians women at Howard Menger's UFO conference home in 1957. Craig tells how the short film of Valiant is made. Isn't Howard Menger the man who gathered people at his farm and charged people to get fleeting looks at 'aliens'? Oddly enough some who saw the 'aliens' more clearly than expected said they looked like Menger's wife and daughter. Another con man who worked with Stranges. Interesting reading. Some insight into how money can be made by telling tale tales. You can't fool them all of the time but the pool os large enough that if you can just fool some of them some of the time you can make a living.
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Post by rational on Mar 28, 2015 8:31:05 GMT -5
Nathan all you need to do is watch some of the TV evangelical shows to know that pastors do focus on 'the money'. Many are very wealthy. I believe it's all science fiction regarding Thor also. There is no way anyone could ever live on Venus or below the surface, so that alone makes the story science fiction. Yes, I have read and seen the million air TV evangelists. Pastor Frank is nothing like that. He was very humble, fearless, but down to earth pastor. Valiant Thor invited Dr. Frank to visit his Interior home Venus planet and he went. Additional information about a Stranges presentation.
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Post by snow on Mar 28, 2015 10:42:11 GMT -5
Yknot. Yes lets but can we focus on one thing at a time. I have a sense you can teach me something. You choose. Snow There was so much to digest. How do you do it. I always found note taking helped me recall things. Bubbles, I've been watching these types of debates/talks for a long time and I do a lot of reading in many different fields. So after awhile what I have already learned makes it easier to figure out what they are talking about now. Some of what they were talking about is not new to me anymore. Some of it was. Makes it easier when you have a bit of background when you listen to these talks. Makes taking in the newer information easier. That's how I see it anyway. So keep watching them and it will all get easier over time.
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Post by bubbles on Mar 28, 2015 12:56:30 GMT -5
Yknot. Yes lets but can we focus on one thing at a time. I have a sense you can teach me something. You choose. Snow There was so much to digest. How do you do it. I always found note taking helped me recall things. Bubbles, I've been watching these types of debates/talks for a long time and I do a lot of reading in many different fields. So after awhile what I have already learned makes it easier to figure out what they are talking about now. Some of what they were talking about is not new to me anymore. Some of it was. Makes it easier when you have a bit of background when you listen to these talks. Makes taking in the newer information easier. That's how I see it anyway. So keep watching them and it will all get easier over time. Thanks. Its like any new topic I guess.
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Post by rational on Mar 28, 2015 13:45:10 GMT -5
From what I read of Howard M and his wife they seem to be very sincere and honest people. Yes, they do. That type of person makes the best confidence man. NathanB, no matter what they seemed to be it has been shown they were deceiving people for a profit.
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Post by xna on Mar 28, 2015 14:14:42 GMT -5
Dear Kin, Our Most Recent Common Ancestor Adam, likely lived about 80,000 years after our Most Recent Common Ancestor Eve en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Y-chromosomal_Adam
Note: If you are not of the party to which this message is address, scientists would like some of your DNA.
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Post by rational on Mar 28, 2015 16:19:32 GMT -5
Note: If you are not of the party to which this message is address, scientists would like some of your DNA. I gave at the office.
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Post by dmmichgood on Mar 28, 2015 16:41:05 GMT -5
Yknot. Yes lets but can we focus on one thing at a time. I have a sense you can teach me something. You choose. Snow There was so much to digest. How do you do it. I always found note taking helped me recall things. Me too, bubbles.
I am a prolific note taker. Even if I never look again at the notes again.
Some how, just the taking of the notes helps me to solidify the message in my brain. Otherwise, I come away not being able to frame in my mind the points that I really wanted to remember.
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Post by xna on Mar 28, 2015 19:46:35 GMT -5
The above reddit thread has some new great posts from ex 2x2's
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Post by xna on Mar 28, 2015 21:25:46 GMT -5
The above reddit thread has some new great posts from ex 2x2's I really feel for the guy who said; "Right now I am faking it until we can make a clean break". ?
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Post by snow on Mar 28, 2015 21:38:23 GMT -5
The above reddit thread has some new great posts from ex 2x2's I really feel for the guy who said; "Right now I am faking it until we can make a clean break". ? Yes that is a hard place to be. I tried for awhile because I was still a minor and had to attend meetings anyway. I continued taking part in meeting because I was scared of what my dad would do if I quit. He was the elder and took the meeting. The day I quit taking part was so hard. He sat and waited and waited and I could feel all eyes on me and I remember just shaking inside. Finally he got up and did his testimony and they carried on, but those moments felt like a lifetime! So for him to be an elder and have to quit that would be hard if he has family still professing and especially if his wife decides she can't go along with him.
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Post by maryhig on Mar 29, 2015 10:27:12 GMT -5
Jesus and Paul warnings about the fallen away before His 2nd coming to rapture/taken the church with the resurrection bodies... Jesus said in Matthew 24:8-14
8 All these are the beginning of sorrows.
9 Then shall they deliver you up to be afflicted and shall kill you, and ye shall be hated by all nations for My name’s sake.
10 And then shall many lose faith and shall betray one another and shall hate one another.
11 And many false prophets shall rise and shall deceive many.
12 And because iniquity shall abound, the love of many shall wax cold.
13 But he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved.
14 And this Gospel of the Kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations, and then shall the end come. Apostasy/Great Fallen Away Within the Church Prior Jesus' 2nd Coming. Paul wrote in(II Theses 2:1-15) By the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and by our gathering together. That Ye be NOT soon shaken in mind or alarmed, neither by spirit nor by word, nor by letter as from us. Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall NOT come, UNTIL there come a "Falling Away" First... Even him whose coming is after the working Satan with all power and signs and wonders. And, with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they receive NOT the love of the Truth, that they might be SAVED. And, for this reason, God shall Send them "Powerful" delusion, that they should believe a LIE; that they ALL might be damned who believe NOT the truth, but had pleasure in Wickedness... Someone wrote: "Now, Brethren, concerning the Coming of our Lord Jesus Christ and our gathering together to Him, We ask you, NOT to be soon shaken in mind or troubled, either by spirit or by word, or by letter, as IF from us, as though the day of Christ had come. Let no ONE deceive you by any means for that DAY will NOT come, unless the "Fallen Away" come "FIRST", and the man of sin is revealed, the Son of perdition (II Thess. 2:1-3). The Son of perdition, the same expression is used of Judas Iscariot (John 17:12). The Greek word for "Falling Away" is apostasia, which means, "Defection," "Apostasy," "Departure from the Truth." One cannot "fall away" from the Truth of Jesus if he/she never had it in the first place. The word "apostasy" means the abandonment of one's religious faith. In brief, one has to possess the TRUTH before he/she can abandon it. This text clearly applies to those who have been given the Truth. It refers to the church, and tells us what would happen shortly "Before" the 2nd Coming of Christ. But, there are other Bible warnings:Paul wrote: "Now the Spirit expresses that in Latter Times, certain will depart from the faith, giving heed to Deceiving spirits and doctrines of demons, speaking lies in hypocrisy, having their own conscience seared with a hot Iron .. (I Timothy 4:1-2). Peter wrote: There were false prophets also among the people even as there shall be false teachers among you," who secretly shall bring in destructive heresies, even denying the Lord that bought them, and bring upon themselves swift destruction. And "Many" shall follow their shameful ways, and the Way of Truth shall be EVIL spoken of. In their Greed, these Teachers exploit you with stories and make merchandise of you. (II Peter 2:1-2) Jude wrote: "... It was need for me to write unto you, and exhort you that ye should earnestly contend for the faith which was once Entrusted unto the saints. For there are certain men which have secretly crept in among you, who long ago was written about in reference to this condemnation, they are Ungodly men...The Lord comes with ten thousands of his Saints to execute judgment upon all, and to convict all that are Ungodly among them, of all their Ungodly deeds which they have committed, and of all their hard speeches who Ungodly sinners have spoken against Him ... Beloved, remember ye the words which were spoken before of the Apostles and our Lord Jesus Christ. How that they have told you there should be scoffers, mockers in the "Last Time," who should walk after their own Ungodly lusts. These be they who have NOT the Spirit. (Jude 1-19). Jesus explained how Truth is revealed when he said, "But the Comforter, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in my name, He will teach you all things, and bring to your remembrance all things that I said to you." He prayed that the disciples would be sanctified by the Truth. Jesus said the Holy Spirit is the Spirit of Truth (John 14:7). The Fact is that One cannot understand the Truth of God, unless led by the Holy Spirit. This Truth in Jesus abides forever; the Truth is NOT subject to change. Jesus Christ, the same Yesterday, Today and Forever. (Heb. 13:8; Ps 100:5; 146:6; II John 1-2). God's Spirit Does NOT lead people away from the teachings/doctrines of Jesus Christ, or lead them into error! 2x2friendsworkers.proboards.com/thread/47/falling-away-before-jesus-returns Rapture? That word isn't in the Bible? What's this?
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Post by xna on Mar 29, 2015 10:51:06 GMT -5
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Post by snow on Mar 29, 2015 11:02:35 GMT -5
Jesus and Paul warnings about the fallen away before His 2nd coming to rapture/taken the church with the resurrection bodies... Jesus said in Matthew 24:8-14
8 All these are the beginning of sorrows.
9 Then shall they deliver you up to be afflicted and shall kill you, and ye shall be hated by all nations for My name’s sake.
10 And then shall many lose faith and shall betray one another and shall hate one another.
11 And many false prophets shall rise and shall deceive many.
12 And because iniquity shall abound, the love of many shall wax cold.
13 But he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved.
14 And this Gospel of the Kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations, and then shall the end come. Apostasy/Great Fallen Away Within the Church Prior Jesus' 2nd Coming. Paul wrote in(II Theses 2:1-15) By the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and by our gathering together. That Ye be NOT soon shaken in mind or alarmed, neither by spirit nor by word, nor by letter as from us. Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall NOT come, UNTIL there come a "Falling Away" First... Even him whose coming is after the working Satan with all power and signs and wonders. And, with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they receive NOT the love of the Truth, that they might be SAVED. And, for this reason, God shall Send them "Powerful" delusion, that they should believe a LIE; that they ALL might be damned who believe NOT the truth, but had pleasure in Wickedness... Someone wrote: "Now, Brethren, concerning the Coming of our Lord Jesus Christ and our gathering together to Him, We ask you, NOT to be soon shaken in mind or troubled, either by spirit or by word, or by letter, as IF from us, as though the day of Christ had come. Let no ONE deceive you by any means for that DAY will NOT come, unless the "Fallen Away" come "FIRST", and the man of sin is revealed, the Son of perdition (II Thess. 2:1-3). The Son of perdition, the same expression is used of Judas Iscariot (John 17:12). The Greek word for "Falling Away" is apostasia, which means, "Defection," "Apostasy," "Departure from the Truth." One cannot "fall away" from the Truth of Jesus if he/she never had it in the first place. The word "apostasy" means the abandonment of one's religious faith. In brief, one has to possess the TRUTH before he/she can abandon it. This text clearly applies to those who have been given the Truth. It refers to the church, and tells us what would happen shortly "Before" the 2nd Coming of Christ. But, there are other Bible warnings:Paul wrote: "Now the Spirit expresses that in Latter Times, certain will depart from the faith, giving heed to Deceiving spirits and doctrines of demons, speaking lies in hypocrisy, having their own conscience seared with a hot Iron .. (I Timothy 4:1-2). Peter wrote: There were false prophets also among the people even as there shall be false teachers among you," who secretly shall bring in destructive heresies, even denying the Lord that bought them, and bring upon themselves swift destruction. And "Many" shall follow their shameful ways, and the Way of Truth shall be EVIL spoken of. In their Greed, these Teachers exploit you with stories and make merchandise of you. (II Peter 2:1-2) Jude wrote: "... It was need for me to write unto you, and exhort you that ye should earnestly contend for the faith which was once Entrusted unto the saints. For there are certain men which have secretly crept in among you, who long ago was written about in reference to this condemnation, they are Ungodly men...The Lord comes with ten thousands of his Saints to execute judgment upon all, and to convict all that are Ungodly among them, of all their Ungodly deeds which they have committed, and of all their hard speeches who Ungodly sinners have spoken against Him ... Beloved, remember ye the words which were spoken before of the Apostles and our Lord Jesus Christ. How that they have told you there should be scoffers, mockers in the "Last Time," who should walk after their own Ungodly lusts. These be they who have NOT the Spirit. (Jude 1-19). Jesus explained how Truth is revealed when he said, "But the Comforter, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in my name, He will teach you all things, and bring to your remembrance all things that I said to you." He prayed that the disciples would be sanctified by the Truth. Jesus said the Holy Spirit is the Spirit of Truth (John 14:7). The Fact is that One cannot understand the Truth of God, unless led by the Holy Spirit. This Truth in Jesus abides forever; the Truth is NOT subject to change. Jesus Christ, the same Yesterday, Today and Forever. (Heb. 13:8; Ps 100:5; 146:6; II John 1-2). God's Spirit Does NOT lead people away from the teachings/doctrines of Jesus Christ, or lead them into error! 2x2friendsworkers.proboards.com/thread/47/falling-away-before-jesus-returns Rapture? That word isn't in the Bible? What's this? For more information on the rapture there is a series of books out there by Timothy LaHaye.
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Post by xna on Mar 29, 2015 11:25:43 GMT -5
The problem with saying WE are right because see WE see a great falling ways is, by the numbers the 2 x 2 don't come out on top.
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Post by xna on Mar 29, 2015 11:54:47 GMT -5
The problem with saying WE are right because see WE see a great falling ways is, by the numbers the 2 x 2 don't come out on top. Jesus is the right Way and Truth... we know and compare with how he and his apostles lived and taught in the gospels and Acts of the apostles. The test is in the pudding.2,000,000,000 total Christians worldwide 200,000 2x2 Christians worldwide 200 Omega / Message People 100 Cooneyites This is how I see the 2x2 argument: Jesus is the Way, other Christians say the same - BUT THEY ARE WRONG Being Few supports > we are right. Omega and Cooneyites are fewer - BUT THEY ARE WRONG Great falling away supports > we are right. Omega & Cooneyites had a falling away too - BUT THEY ARE WRONG All other religions say they are right - BUT THEY ARE WRONG We are right because god told us so, the rest say the same - BUT THEY ARE WRONG
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Post by maryhig on Mar 29, 2015 11:59:56 GMT -5
Matthew 22:14 For many are called, but few are chosen.
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Post by maryhig on Mar 29, 2015 12:11:21 GMT -5
Jesus is the right Way and Truth... we know and compare with how he and his apostles lived and taught in the gospels and Acts of the apostles. The test is in the pudding. 2,000,000,000 total Christians worldwide 200,000 2x2 Christians worldwide 200 Omega / Message People 100 Cooneyites This is how I see the 2x2 argument: Jesus is the Way, other Christians say the same - BUT THEY ARE WRONG Being Few supports > we are right. Omega and Cooneyites are fewer - BUT THEY ARE WRONG Great falling away supports > we are right. Omega & Cooneyites had a falling away too - BUT THEY ARE WRONG All other religions say they are right - BUT THEY ARE WRONG We are right because god told us so, the rest say the same - BUT THEY ARE WRONG Xna It's this how the 2x2s think about us? Or is this just what you are saying? I'm not putting you down, I'm just trying to understand what you mean?
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Post by xna on Mar 29, 2015 12:13:35 GMT -5
Matthew 22:14 For many are called, but few are chosen. The 2x2 use that verse against the 2,000,000,000 other Christians to say WE ARE THE RIGHT ONE, but the Cooneyites and Omega can use the same against the 2x2.
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Post by xna on Mar 29, 2015 12:17:33 GMT -5
The problem with saying WE are right because see WE see a great falling ways is, by the numbers the 2 x 2 don't come out on top. Jesus is the right Way and Truth... we know and compare with how he and his apostles lived and taught in the gospels and Acts of the apostles. The test is in the pudding.The 2x2 Pick and choose the way to go and preach. While other more direct instructions - no so much. You gotta find a niche if you want to start a denomination. "Drink no longer water, but use a little wine for thy stomach's sake and thine often infirmities." "Now that I, your Lord and Teacher, have washed your feet, you also should wash one another’s feet. I have set you an example that you should do as I have done for you." "Heal the sick, cleanse the lepers, raise the dead, cast out devils: freely ye have received, freely give." "And when ye come into an house, salute it" and on, and on, .....
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