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Post by Deleted on Feb 8, 2015 14:33:24 GMT -5
In Seneca IL, the workers would ring the dinner bell about 15 minutes before the meeting began.
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Post by rational on Feb 8, 2015 18:06:42 GMT -5
In Seneca IL, the workers would ring the dinner bell about 15 minutes before the meeting began. Ringing a dinner bell has been shown to generate a lot of saliva in subjects. Seems like that tactic would be counterproductive to producing a quiet crowd (Slurp, Slurp).
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Post by snow on Feb 8, 2015 18:33:40 GMT -5
In Seneca IL, the workers would ring the dinner bell about 15 minutes before the meeting began. Ringing a dinner bell has been shown to generate a lot of saliva in subjects. Seems like that tactic would be counterproductive to producing a quiet crowd (Slurp, Slurp). Oh come on Rational, you know no dogs are allowed at convention anymore.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 8, 2015 19:08:45 GMT -5
Sometimes they will peck into the microphone. Or make the microphone produce a shrill sound that will hurt your ears! Or the stare. A friend of mine was scolded for taking pictures of the crowd just before a convention...this man wasn't raised in "truth" and didn't know better. When you have these unwritten rules that the born and raised know from an early age, it makes it hard on those not born and raised in the meetings.
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Post by CherieKropp on Feb 26, 2015 10:31:16 GMT -5
Typed OP Letter - easier to read
Salem Oregon August 1, 1996
Our dear Elders in Oregon and Southern Idaho,
Please make a copy of this letter for everyone in your Sunday morning meeting, and please be sure that any who are absent also have a copy of it to read. In order that our convention season be all that the Lord would like it to be, we want to mention several items we feel are important to keep in mind.
Convention days are considered to be some of the most important days of our year. The purpose of our gathering is to renew our relationship with God and to freshly dedicate our lives to his service. One of our fears is that its true purpose would be missed, and that it should evolve into a mere social function. We would like to mention several areas of responsibility, where most commonly, shortcomings have prevailed in the past.
1) Let us treat every meeting at convention as though it were our Sunday morning meeting. To be seated quietly at least 10-15 minutes ahead of time is an immense help to the effectiveness of the meeting. Invariably in the past, this quiet period has grown shorter and shorter as the convention progresses.
2) In our Sunday morning meeting we would never think of bringing in food, drink or gum. There are other places for this. We would never think of scattering scrap papers, soiled Kleenex or any other kind of garbage on the floor. There are receptacles for these things in which they can be placed after the meeting.
3) In the beginning of the convention season, it might be good to remind everyone that it is scriptural to say “amen” out loud at the close of each prayer, message and testimony. There is something about that response that gives an uplifting effect to the efforts of all. The saying of “amen” indicates that each one has been listening and that they are not indifferent to the prayers and testimonies of their brethren, but that they heartily agree,
4) In the dormitories, tent and trailer areas, quietness should prevail in consideration of others wishing to read, pray and meditate before the meetings. In the evening, the lights should be out at a reasonable hour with continued quietness and order. This has been a major complaint in former years. Children who are not mature enough to comply are to be accompanied by a parent, or some other responsible person.
5) In the yard and surroundings, all children need parental supervision. Parents or a responsible party should know their children’s whereabouts at all times. Because we are guests on the property of another, we must appreciate the owner’s hospitality and treat every part of the yard and buildings with due respect. Let commendable behavior be our aim because of the Name we bear. We appreciate decency, modesty and neatness in the apparel of young and old alike. Let us remember that convention is not intended to be a fashion show on parade.
We have often been reminded of these simple, but necessary matters. While they are not difficult, they need to be often repeated so that with a little effort they will automatically become a part of our behavior. We see a splendid picture of cooperation in so many other convention activities. May it be so in these areas also. Let us concentrate our efforts not only to do them ourselves, but also to be an example to others as well who may be attending for the first time
We hope that these simple guidelines, written with godly care and concern, can be an incentive to make our gatherings “the best ever.”
Your brother in Christ
Harold Bennett
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Post by Scott Ross on Feb 26, 2015 18:34:25 GMT -5
I could remember the noisy men dorms, teenagers running around during the nights, it kind spoiled the spirit of conventions. Actually, for me..... that was the best part about going to convention.
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Post by Scott Ross on Feb 26, 2015 18:54:14 GMT -5
I could remember the noisy men dorms, teenagers running around during the nights, it kind spoiled the spirit of conventions. Actually, for me..... that was the best part about going to convention. hahaha... We were watching out for teenagers raiding the cookies cabinet.... Sometimes we let them have some cookies.Those were the decoys. The rest of us were grabbing pies set aside for the workers tables......
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Post by Deleted on Feb 26, 2015 18:59:27 GMT -5
How times have changed. 50 years ago we were told to bring a comb and tooth brush plus some cutlery to eat with. We were to report for accomadation on arrival. Pretty simple, we must have been better Sheep those days.
Thought the 2x2 system does not have any rules!!!.
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Post by CherieKropp on Feb 26, 2015 19:08:18 GMT -5
I've never heard of the friends at any of the American conv. having to bring their own cutlery. I understand some had handmade special bags to tote the cutlery in? What were the arrangements for wash them? Do friends still bring their cutlery in Aust?
Do they still serve emblems on Sunday am mtg? Do they still sell hymnbooks and Bibles at conv?
Just curious...
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Post by Scott Ross on Feb 26, 2015 19:27:46 GMT -5
Those were the decoys. The rest of us were grabbing pies set aside for the workers tables...... That's Ok... you were doing the workers a big favor... Many of them need to loose some weight anyway.We were simply doing our part to protect the fat ones...... HA! (actually, I never took any pies, but I did kiss the girls.......but only the ones that wanted kissed...after all, that was the purpose of convention.... to make sure that those who were not called to be workers were able to find future spouses...)
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Post by Deleted on Feb 26, 2015 19:31:56 GMT -5
How times have changed. 50 years ago we were told to bring a comb and tooth brush plus some cutlery to eat with. We were to report for accomadation on arrival. Pretty simple, we must have been better Sheep those days. Thought the 2x2 system does not have any rules!!!. How many friends attend the conventions you were at 50 yrs ago? Here in the west coast.... 1000 friends or more staying in campers and in the dorms. With this many people you need some rules, guidelines.600 Sheep. Mostly white, few black ones like myself.
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Post by snow on Feb 26, 2015 20:56:48 GMT -5
I could remember the noisy men dorms, teenagers running around during the nights, it kind spoiled the spirit of conventions. Actually, for me..... that was the best part about going to convention. hahaha... We were watching out for teenagers raiding the cookies cabinet.... Sometimes we let them have some cookies.You had cookie cabinets!!! I got ripped off. We never had cookie cabinets in the girls dorms
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Post by fred on Feb 26, 2015 22:19:16 GMT -5
I've never heard of the friends at any of the American conv. having to bring their own cutlery. I understand some had handmade special bags to tote the cutlery in? What were the arrangements for wash them? Do friends still bring their cutlery in Aust? Do they still serve emblems on Sunday am mtg? Do they still sell hymnbooks and Bibles at conv? Just curious... Ha ...memories! Yes we all used to take our own cutlery and there was a spot where a couple of people would be washing them for you before you would pop them back into a little home made case. Workers cutlery was provided. To the best of my knowledge cutlery has been provided at all , for about 15 years or more, now it all goes through the general washup area and then is scalded. Emblems are still taken on Sunday morning meeting, us Aussies didn't get the 'only in a home memo'. It usually only takes an extra 15 mins. And yes, bibles, hymnbooks, concordances etc are 'available' during convention - I asked if I could have a look at a NIV version and was told that they were not available here, I would have to go to Christian book store. And I know that is frowned upon!!
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Post by snow on Feb 26, 2015 22:30:06 GMT -5
You had cookie cabinets!!! I got ripped off. We never had cookie cabinets in the girls dorms hahaha.... Cookies, ice cream, pies... they feed the workers very good out west.... So, the teenagers get some of the benefits too.Yum! Do you know if the female workers got this good treatment too? Maybe it was after my time at conventions. I think my last year at convention was 1972.
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Post by snow on Feb 26, 2015 22:39:57 GMT -5
Yum! Do you know if the female workers got this good treatment too? Maybe it was after my time at conventions. I think my last year at convention was 1972. I believe the sister workers out west have their own stash of goodies for their helpers... One year I took some of teenagers boys to one of the friends, who had a swimming pool during the preps time, they cooked for us burgers, steaks... It was a very special time for all of us. Quite a few of the teenagers boys came out to help us druing Nathan, I think you would have been a fun worker to be around! No we never had any goodies in our barn. Must have been after 1972 or a states thing. I only attended a few states conventions, again before 1973 and I never remembered any thing in the dorms. I missed the good stuff.
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Post by dmmichgood on Feb 26, 2015 22:57:46 GMT -5
I've never heard of the friends at any of the American conv. having to bring their own cutlery. I understand some had handmade special bags to tote the cutlery in? What were the arrangements for wash them? Do friends still bring their cutlery in Aust? Do they still serve emblems on Sunday am mtg? Do they still sell hymnbooks and Bibles at conv? Just curious... Ha ...memories! Yes we all used to take our own cutlery and there was a spot where a couple of people would be washing them for you before you would pop them back into a little home made case. Workers cutlery was provided. To the best of my knowledge cutlery has been provided at all , for about 15 years or more, now it all goes through the general washup area and then is scalded. Emblems are still taken on Sunday morning meeting, us Aussies didn't get the 'only in a home memo'. It usually only takes an extra 15 mins. And yes, bibles, hymnbooks, concordances etc are 'available' during convention - I asked if I could have a look at a NIV version and was told that they were not available here, I would have to go to Christian book store. And I know that is frowned upon!! WOW! As old as I am, I don't remember having to take our own cutlery here in the US.
I remember the years of washing dishes & scalding them. (Hot job in summer!)
Now they use only paper plates & cups.
Maybe a health regulation order.
We use to be able to bring home canned fruits & vegetables. That has not been allowed for many years .
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Post by Deleted on Feb 27, 2015 1:42:26 GMT -5
Nathan, I think you would have been a fun worker to be around! No we never had any goodies in our barn. Must have been after 1972 or a states thing. I only attended a few states conventions, again before 1973 and I never remembered any thing in the dorms. I missed the good stuff. Thanks, snow... Uncle Leo was in his 60s and he made it fun for us teenagers when we met him so I wanted to pass what I have received from him to others when I was in the work. We had a good staff of workers in Oregon that allow us to be playful, having fun at preps. The young workers played games and the older workers came around and watch us played, so the teenagers enjoyed coming out from town to play with us. We were never allowed to play with workers.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 27, 2015 2:15:52 GMT -5
Wow Nathan, are you sure you were with the 2x2's. Obviously you never met our Mr. Pickering.
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Post by dmmichgood on Feb 27, 2015 2:38:29 GMT -5
You have made the right choice in now going to the kfc convention. Good for you a happy convention camper. Good to hear from you - I thought you had gone underground! Yes, I'm glad that God has led me there - it's called Katoomba Christian Conventions - not KFC (they probably get together for a different kind of convention!) This convention sounds very much like a 2x2 convention, even more male dominated.
The only two women speakers are at the very end of a long, long list of MEN Katoomba Christian Conventions
List of Convention Chairmen David Cook Phillip Jensen Alan Stewart (current chairman)Speakers Sam Low and Damien Whitington"Follow Me: Men of Jesus " Chris Wright & Leon SteadPeter Jensen, Kirk Patston & David JamesDave Miers & Jeremy DunneRichard Coekin & Paul Dale Sarie King & Ruth Muffett
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