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Post by Deleted on Apr 1, 2014 23:56:26 GMT -5
"Noah" is fairly safe. Tons of violence, bad language, pride, revenge, hate, sex and what-have-you. No mention of God. No CSA. Good for the kids.
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Post by rational on Apr 2, 2014 7:55:01 GMT -5
With men thinking it's impossible but with God ALL things are impossible with Him. At last, Nathan, we agree!No doubt, the believers allow their belief in god to control their mind.
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Post by faune on Apr 2, 2014 8:00:50 GMT -5
To those who don't believe in God..... How did thousands and thousands of animals from different species around the world KNOW and Believing about the COMING Flood on the earth and Fled to the Ark for a place of refuge? For me I don't believe that any animals went on the ark at all. Just how do you think the koalas got from Oz to the middle east? Truly, the logistics of whole entire story is absolutely impossible. Logistics would be problematic here.
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Post by rational on Apr 2, 2014 8:02:16 GMT -5
For me I don't believe that any animals went on the ark at all. Just how do you think the koalas got from Oz to the middle east? Truly, the logistics of whole entire story is absolutely impossible. From the billing records that have been lately discovered it looks like the animals were transported by God of the Gaps - Overnight Guaranteed Transportation Division (GOTGOGTD). Noah, of course, welshed out on the payments and the company, and all breathing animals not on the ark ceased to exist so... But the God of the Gaps head office is still up and running and doing, as far as can be determined, ordinary things and calling them miracles!
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Post by rational on Apr 2, 2014 10:29:01 GMT -5
Believers, we call it Faith in God our Creator and Almighty God of Miracles.... Like when God opened up the RED Sea so the children of Israel could walk on dry ground. Too bad you don't see much of this any more. No one walking on water, no great vintages being formed from water, no new parting of the seas. In fact most investigations of claimed miracles show a much more prosaic explanation or, in many cases, fraud. I did see the sea part though. It was part of the Universal Studios Back-lot Tour. It was pretty impressive if viewed from the correct angle!
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Post by snow on Apr 2, 2014 15:53:18 GMT -5
For me I don't believe that any animals went on the ark at all. Just how do you think the koalas got from Oz to the middle east? Truly, the logistics of whole entire story is absolutely impossible. From the billing records that have been lately discovered it looks like the animals were transported by God of the Gaps - Overnight Guaranteed Transportation Division (GOTGOGTD). Noah, of course, welshed out on the payments and the company, and all breathing animals not on the ark ceased to exist so... But the God of the Gaps head office is still up and running and doing, as far as can be determined, ordinary things and calling them miracles! Well I guess they needed to get there somehow because I know of no possible way it could have happened without God!
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Post by sharingtheriches on Apr 2, 2014 21:20:43 GMT -5
Don't bother waking up your quote editor, Rat! It was all said in fun. Yes, I know the bible said 7 days....but again like the creation story was done in 7 days....anything is possible with God.....nonetheless most times after such a flood it takes at least a year to liveable. And that is why throwing in a god of the gaps is so often the solution. "How did that happen?" "God did it. Thank God." (Of course, if it's a mudslide that killed people offense may be taken!)Very true...it is just that some people, likely myself included, get things into our minds to say as expressions when really they aren't likely related to what ever we might be replying to. Kind of like some people around in this area can't talk without cursing! Sheesh! It's sad that they keep coming up with more people numbers that are missing! One would think by the end of a couple of weeks or week one even that they'd have pretty well had opportunity to know who was living in those homes and thus their estimation of missing persons would have been most at the beginning, not now that mud drenched corpses are all they can find! I'm sorry that catastrophe happened, but the people who first started the building of that neighborhood were told by the geological brains that there would be a mudslide there some day! Sometimes lusts still get us into trouble and it doesn't always meet up with sex, eh?
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Post by sharingtheriches on Apr 2, 2014 21:29:15 GMT -5
Believers, we call it Faith in God our Creator and Almighty God of Miracles.... Like when God opened up the RED Sea so the children of Israel could walk on dry ground. Too bad you don't see much of this any more. No one walking on water, no great vintages being formed from water, no new parting of the seas. In fact most investigations of claimed miracles show a much more prosaic explanation or, in many cases, fraud. I did see the sea part though. It was part of the Universal Studios Back-lot Tour. It was pretty impressive if viewed from the correct angle! Well, Rat, some of us are living a bit on the "safe side", Okay? We seek to improve and increase our faith in a God of heaven and a Saviour who died on the cross for our sins, simply because without that, what do we have? It's kindof like Paul said, without the death and resurrection of Jesus Christ, then none of us have hope beyond the grave. Also the being "safe" is Jesus even wondered if he'd find faith still on the earth when he returns. Oh, I forgot...you have to have faith to believe that Jesus is truly who we declare him to be, and also you'd have to have faith that that which is said is his word is really his word! Right? It all comes down to faith! And yes, I know you have NO faith in anything but data! That's fine, I'm glad someone does! But in the meantime I'll do my best to keep my faith growing in the Lord Jesus Christ and Life Eternal. It should even out for one of us at the end of our earthly life, eh?
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Post by faune on Apr 2, 2014 21:53:42 GMT -5
I heard that the movie God's Not Dead is good. I might break my tradition of not going to the theater and check this one out. godsnotdeadthemovie.com/Embers ~ Let me know what you think of it when you do? The only thing about the movie that turns me off is it being sponsored by that hillbilly reality show, Duck Dynasty. After Phil Robertson made such a splash in the national media for his anti-gay and racial remarks, I don't put much stock in his brand of Christian fundamentalism. His wife even talks about all the rough time she had with Phil during their marriage in her book, which is discussed in this news clip below. However, the reviews do sound good and I might check it out sometime this weekend? Why people think this show is entertaining with these young and old men sitting around shooting the breeze in their long beards makes me wonder about what Americans consider entertainment today? I prefer re-runs of "I Love Lucy" or "The Andy Griffith Show" compared to these hillbilly reality shows for a few good laughs.
Another crazy top rating show is "Here Comes Honey Boo Boo." This one surpasses even Duck Dynasty in the "stupid" department! I watched a few previews on You-tube of both of these shows and that was more than enough for me!
www.foxnews.com/entertainment/2014/04/01/missy-robertson-talks-duck-dynasty-and-critics-god-is-sometimes-not-politically/
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Here_Comes_Honey_Boo_Boo.
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Post by rational on Apr 2, 2014 23:07:03 GMT -5
Well, Rat, some of us are living a bit on the "safe side", Okay? We seek to improve and increase our faith in a God of heaven and a Saviour who died on the cross for our sins, simply because without that, what do we have? You would have the same thing but without the worry of violating some rule that will send you to a lost eternity. You an spend the time you now spend hoping to improve and increase your faith to help your fellow man in a real and meaningful way.Is hope what you are working for?
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Post by sharingtheriches on Apr 3, 2014 18:45:52 GMT -5
Well, Rat, some of us are living a bit on the "safe side", Okay? We seek to improve and increase our faith in a God of heaven and a Saviour who died on the cross for our sins, simply because without that, what do we have? You would have the same thing but without the worry of violating some rule that will send you to a lost eternity. You an spend the time you now spend hoping to improve and increase your faith to help your fellow man in a real and meaningful way.Is hope what you are working for? Actually is all about "faith" and "faith" is a gift from heaven.....so as a gift is a gift then there's no work to obtain it!
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Post by déjà vu on Apr 4, 2014 21:45:43 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Apr 4, 2014 22:25:27 GMT -5
hank did a good job, thanks for the link...
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Post by faune on Apr 4, 2014 23:00:42 GMT -5
Too bad you don't see much of this any more. No one walking on water, no great vintages being formed from water, no new parting of the seas. In fact most investigations of claimed miracles show a much more prosaic explanation or, in many cases, fraud. I did see the sea part though. It was part of the Universal Studios Back-lot Tour. It was pretty impressive if viewed from the correct angle! Well, Rat, some of us are living a bit on the "safe side", Okay? We seek to improve and increase our faith in a God of heaven and a Saviour who died on the cross for our sins, simply because without that, what do we have? It's kindof like Paul said, without the death and resurrection of Jesus Christ, then none of us have hope beyond the grave. Also the being "safe" is Jesus even wondered if he'd find faith still on the earth when he returns. Oh, I forgot...you have to have faith to believe that Jesus is truly who we declare him to be, and also you'd have to have faith that that which is said is his word is really his word! Right? It all comes down to faith! And yes, I know you have NO faith in anything but data! That's fine, I'm glad someone does! But in the meantime I'll do my best to keep my faith growing in the Lord Jesus Christ and Life Eternal. It should even out for one of us at the end of our earthly life, eh? Sharingtheriches ~ Good point! Your opinion reminded me of the following verse from Ephesians 2:8. I enjoyed the Parallel Commentary that went along with this verse, too!
biblehub.com/ephesians/2-8.htm
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Post by dmmichgood on Apr 4, 2014 23:03:03 GMT -5
Too bad you don't see much of this any more. No one walking on water, no great vintages being formed from water, no new parting of the seas. In fact most investigations of claimed miracles show a much more prosaic explanation or, in many cases, fraud. I did see the sea part though. It was part of the Universal Studios Back-lot Tour. It was pretty impressive if viewed from the correct angle! Well, Rat, some of us are living a bit on the "safe side", Okay? We seek to improve and increase our faith in a God of heaven and a Saviour who died on the cross for our sins, simply because without that, what do we have? It's kindof like Paul said, without the death and resurrection of Jesus Christ, then none of us have hope beyond the grave. Also the being "safe" is Jesus even wondered if he'd find faith still on the earth when he returns. Oh, I forgot...you have to have faith to believe that Jesus is truly who we declare him to be, and also you'd have to have faith that that which is said is his word is really his word! Right? It all comes down to faith! And yes, I know you have NO faith in anything but data! That's fine, I'm glad someone does! But in the meantime I'll do my best to keep my faith growing in the Lord Jesus Christ and Life Eternal. It should even out for one of us at the end of our earthly life, eh? sharingtheriches said: "some of us are living a bit on the "safe side",...without the death and resurrection of Jesus Christ, then none of us have hope beyond the grave. Christianity is really so self-centered.
It is really all about "ME"! The goal not being to enhance life for others in this world here and now, rather that "they" will have "hope beyond the grave."
It is the very base of Christianity.
Christians will claim that they also DO help their fellow men, but that can be done and is done without believing that they have also have "hope beyond the grave."
Is that the main reason that they are Christians? Hope beyond the grave?
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Post by slowtosee on Apr 4, 2014 23:55:08 GMT -5
Well, Rat, some of us are living a bit on the "safe side", Okay? We seek to improve and increase our faith in a God of heaven and a Saviour who died on the cross for our sins, simply because without that, what do we have? It's kindof like Paul said, without the death and resurrection of Jesus Christ, then none of us have hope beyond the grave. Also the being "safe" is Jesus even wondered if he'd find faith still on the earth when he returns. Oh, I forgot...you have to have faith to believe that Jesus is truly who we declare him to be, and also you'd have to have faith that that which is said is his word is really his word! Right? It all comes down to faith! And yes, I know you have NO faith in anything but data! That's fine, I'm glad someone does! But in the meantime I'll do my best to keep my faith growing in the Lord Jesus Christ and Life Eternal. It should even out for one of us at the end of our earthly life, eh? sharingtheriches said: "some of us are living a bit on the "safe side",...without the death and resurrection of Jesus Christ, then none of us have hope beyond the grave. Christianity is really so self-centered.
It is really all about "ME"! The goal not being to enhance life for others in this world here and now, rather that "they" will have "hope beyond the grave."
It is the very base of Christianity.
Christians will claim that they also DO help their fellow men, but that can be done and is done without believing that they have also have "hope beyond the grave."
Is that the main reason that they are Christians? Hope beyond the grave?
Somehow, I have a hard time to believe that the years that you were a Christian, dmmichigood, that you were totally self-centred. It is evident you care about others from your posts, and that probably has been the case throughout your life, Christian or not. I know MANY MANY people from all kinds of beliefs and non-beliefs , Christians included, who are NOT self-centred, and will band together to help their fellow man, without regard to the "reasons" you mentioned. I empathize with your frustrations of observing "selfishness" in Christians , and legitimately so , but to broadbrush , makes as much sense as me saying all atheists are self-centred. NOT true. Alvin
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Post by déjà vu on Apr 5, 2014 21:48:16 GMT -5
NOAH TODAY
In the year 2013, the Lord came unto Noah, who was now living in Oregon and said: "Once again, the earth has become evil and I see the end of all flesh before me. Build another Ark and save 2 of every living thing along with a few good humans." He gave Noah the blueprints, saying: "You have 6 months to build the Ark before I will start the unending rain for 40 days and 40 nights."
Six months later, the Lord looked down and saw Noah weeping in his yard - but no Ark. "Noah!" He roared, "I'm about to start the rain! Where is the Ark?" "Forgive me, Lord," begged Noah, "but things have changed."
"I needed a Building Permit."
"I've been arguing with the Boat Inspector about the need for a sprinkler system."
"My neighbors claim that I've violated the Neighborhood By-Laws by building the Ark in my back garden and exceeding the height limitations. We had to go to the Local Planning Committee for a decision."
"Then the Local Council and the Electric Company demanded a boat load of money for the future costs of moving power lines and other overhead obstructions, to clear the passage for the Ark's move to the sea. I told them that the sea would be coming to us, but they would hear nothing of it."
"Getting the wood was another problem. There's a ban on cutting local trees in order to save the Greater Spotted Barn Owl. I tried to convince the environmentalists that I needed the wood to save the owls - but no go!"
"When I started gathering the animals the ASPCA took me to court. They insisted that I was confining wild animals against their will. They argued the accommodations were too restrictive, and it was cruel and inhumane to put so many animals in a confined space."
"Then the Environmental Protection Agency ruled that I couldn't build the Ark until they'd conducted an environmental impact study on your proposed flood."
"I'm still trying to resolve a complaint with the Human Rights Commission on how many minorities I'm supposed to hire for my building crew."
"Immigration are checking the Visa status of most of the people who want to work."
"The Trades Unions say I can't use my sons. They insist I have to hire only Union workers with ark-building experience."
"To make matters worse, the Internal Revenue Service seized all my assets, claiming I'm trying to leave the country illegally with endangered species."
"So, forgive me, Lord, but it would take at least 10 years for me to finish this Ark."
"Suddenly the skies cleared, the sun began to shine, and a rainbow stretched across the sky." Noah looked up in wonder and asked, "You mean you're not going to destroy the world?"
"No," said the Lord. " The Government beat me to it."
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Post by Deleted on Apr 6, 2014 3:14:47 GMT -5
I started watching this Noah movie and couldn't finish it. It's dreadful, simply because the director has got the story going all over the place and it has resulted in sloppy acting. Hollywood at it again I suppose. There is a couple of movie sets round here at the moment for a movie that's going to be called Kingdom Come. It has stalled due to lack of money and financial problems. Here's the link. www.stuff.co.nz/entertainment/film/7819521/Jesus-movie-set-to-rise-againInteresting problem with this set and possibly other movie sets is that the buildings are made of polystyrene glued to plywood. Now poly can be recycled but at a cost. When glued to plywood it is next to impossible. And this is no small gripe. There are 50 truck and trailer loads to be got rid of. Where I live there have been numerous sets built lately. Think of all the Tolkien stuff. We welcome the film industry to this beautiful part of the world but they need to think of their impact on the environment a bit more carefully. By the way I think the photo in that link is not the right one for the story. Maybe the journo got his wires crossed.
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Post by faune on Apr 6, 2014 8:59:53 GMT -5
With men thinking it's impossible but with God ALL things are impossible with Him. At last, Nathan, we agree!No doubt, the believers allow their belief in god to control their mind. Rational ~ I just caught Nathan's stumble over his words, too. I can see I'm not the only one on TMB who occasionally sets themselves up with a real blooper?
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Post by faune on Apr 6, 2014 9:13:31 GMT -5
I started watching this Noah movie and couldn't finish it. It's dreadful, simply because the director has got the story going all over the place and it has resulted in sloppy acting. Hollywood at it again I suppose. There is a couple of movie sets round here at the moment for a movie that's going to be called Kingdom Come. It has stalled due to lack of money and financial problems. Here's the link. www.stuff.co.nz/entertainment/film/7819521/Jesus-movie-set-to-rise-againInteresting problem with this set and possibly other movie sets is that the buildings are made of polystyrene glued to plywood. Now poly can be recycled but at a cost. When glued to plywood it is next to impossible. And this is no small gripe. There are 50 truck and trailer loads to be got rid of. Where I live there have been numerous sets built lately. Think of all the Tolkien stuff. We welcome the film industry to this beautiful part of the world but they need to think of their impact on the environment a bit more carefully. By the way I think the photo in that link is not the right one for the story. Maybe the journo got his wires crossed. Wobblyboot ~ Perhaps Nathan presents a better storyline for the movie, Noah, in his post below? Anyway, as I read his comments, I was thinking that this would make a great science fiction movie with the way it ties into the Noah story. What do you think?
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Post by dmmichgood on Apr 6, 2014 10:03:50 GMT -5
"Noah" is fairly safe. Tons of violence, bad language, pride, revenge, hate, sex and what-have-you. No mention of God. No CSA. Good for the kids. So in "Noah, "there were Tons of violence, bad language, pride, revenge, hate, sex?
Sounds as if the film was true to the Old Testament after all!
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Post by embers on Apr 6, 2014 13:18:09 GMT -5
Hey Faune, I haven't seen the movie yet. I've never seen Duck Dynasty, but have heard all of the controversy about that family. I see the Duck Dynasty paraphernalia in the store when I'm out shopping: T-shirts, coffee mugs, etc. I prefer to watch HuluPlus and Netflix. I've been 'expanding my horizons' with documentaries on various subjects. It's really quite liberating for me. But, as far as Duck Dynasty and Honey Boo Boo, I have enough relatives and neighbors like that... can observe that sort of thing first hand... don't need the Boo Tube to see that sort of thing!
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Post by faune on Apr 6, 2014 13:38:01 GMT -5
Hey Faune, I haven't seen the movie yet. I've never seen Duck Dynasty, but have heard all of the controversy about that family. I see the Duck Dynasty paraphernalia in the store when I'm out shopping: T-shirts, coffee mugs, etc. I prefer to watch HuluPlus and Netflix. I've been 'expanding my horizons' with documentaries on various subjects. It's really quite liberating for me. But, as far as Duck Dynasty and Honey Boo Boo, I have enough relatives and neighbors like that... can observe that sort of thing first hand... don't need the Boo Tube to see that sort of thing! Embers ~ You made me really laugh out loud with your response above.
Unfortunately, this type of thing is what gets top ratings from people actually considering it entertaining? That's what really blows my mind, as I find it downright boring and stupid and not humorous at all. Shows like "I Love Lucy" and "Andy Griffith Show" were good comedy shows in the past and now we have a bunch of hillbilly reality shows to replace it. Give me the old re-runs on Netflix of the shows I mentioned along with the interesting documentaries and biographies on the Discovery/History channel along with the Science & Travel channels. If I can't learn something from TV, I'm better off doing something else ~ like posting my comment here!
I hope this new wave in reality shows doesn't reflect American mentality and level of intelligence as a whole by its ratings?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 7, 2014 3:41:25 GMT -5
I started watching this Noah movie and couldn't finish it. It's dreadful, simply because the director has got the story going all over the place and it has resulted in sloppy acting. Hollywood at it again I suppose. There is a couple of movie sets round here at the moment for a movie that's going to be called Kingdom Come. It has stalled due to lack of money and financial problems. Here's the link. www.stuff.co.nz/entertainment/film/7819521/Jesus-movie-set-to-rise-againInteresting problem with this set and possibly other movie sets is that the buildings are made of polystyrene glued to plywood. Now poly can be recycled but at a cost. When glued to plywood it is next to impossible. And this is no small gripe. There are 50 truck and trailer loads to be got rid of. Where I live there have been numerous sets built lately. Think of all the Tolkien stuff. We welcome the film industry to this beautiful part of the world but they need to think of their impact on the environment a bit more carefully. By the way I think the photo in that link is not the right one for the story. Maybe the journo got his wires crossed. Wobblyboot ~ Perhaps Nathan presents a better storyline for the movie, Noah, in his post below? Anyway, as I read his comments, I was thinking that this would make a great science fiction movie with the way it ties into the Noah story. What do you think Yer, Nathan could be a script writer. Thinking about what I was hearing, part of the fault was the script. It was banal.
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Post by faune on Apr 7, 2014 8:51:28 GMT -5
Wobblyboot ~ Perhaps Nathan is unaware of his hidden talents? However, his storyline would go well in creating a good science fiction movie around the Noah and the ark account within the Bible with a neat twist to it.
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Post by déjà vu on Apr 16, 2014 18:03:34 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Apr 16, 2014 18:10:21 GMT -5
we really can't know if they are faking it or not, too many unknowns...
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Post by rational on Apr 16, 2014 18:15:23 GMT -5
we really can't know if they are faking it or not, too many unknowns... I am not sure that anyone said they were faking it. The questions are about what it actually is. Some people claim it is a trip to heaven but can offer no supporting data. Research shows it is a function of the way the brain works and has been able to duplicate many of these things.
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