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Post by rational on Nov 7, 2014 14:00:11 GMT -5
You might be interested reading the article below, Bubbles... THE WATCHERS: Satan and the fallen angels Vs. God's Guardians and Messengers angels By Dr. Frank Stranges And what a surprise - all from Stranges with no verification at all. But some people did go to hear Stranger speak and recorded their thoughts. test.pdf (299.66 KB) The last paragraph of the article is interesting. I wonder if NathanB knew about Stranges trying to move drugs.
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Post by Lee on Nov 7, 2014 14:04:42 GMT -5
The Bible is just not the kind of book to describe the exact nature of angels but in every account, they bear a striking resemblance to mankind. It could be that no other creature comes close to possessing the moral sensitivities of the human being.
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Post by rational on Nov 7, 2014 15:53:24 GMT -5
And what a surprise - all from Stranges with no verification at all. But some people did go to hear Stranger speak and recorded their thoughts. View AttachmentThe last paragraph of the article is interesting. I wonder if NathanB knew about Stranges trying to move drugs. Robert Potter a member of Dr. Frank Stranges Inner Circle group:I thought I would share with you all several stories Dr. Frank relayed to me personally during our personal meetings, as I was constantly enthralled with him as a teacher and a friend. Most of these stories were shared with me during the meals we had together from time to time. More unverified stories from Stranges. @natan9 - you need a second source with some credibility. Couple of housekeeping items: 1) You didn't respond to the very clear photo of Valiant Thor showing 4 fingers and a thumb. 2) You did say whether you knew that Stranges had spent time in jail on drug charges.
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Post by snow on Nov 7, 2014 16:15:49 GMT -5
Nathan, did you read what Rational posted? Come on Nathan. Please rethink the validity of Dr. Stranges story. It's just not possible and I hate to see you believing a con man. No one could live in the interior of Venus never mind the exterior as was stated. The list just goes on and on when it comes to impossible.
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Post by bubbles on Nov 7, 2014 18:00:39 GMT -5
Nate I havent read the book of Enoch. I learned of the watchers recently. You might be interested reading the article below, Bubbles...THE WATCHERS: Satan and the fallen angels Vs. God's Guardians and Messengers angels By Dr. Frank StrangesDid you ever have the feeling that you are being watched? Did you ever feel that someone, unknown to you, is watching your every move? Had you ever wondered just who is involved in this “watching?” If you have answered “yes” to any of these questions, you are absolutely correct. In fact, there is more than one single group that is watching and observing every move that you make. I will categorize these watchers into the following three groups. 1. THE DARK FORCESSince the beginning of man’s journey on the Earth members of the dark (evil) forces have kept constant tabs on the everyday affairs of mankind. They have monitored the daily life of many human beings as to their comings and their goings. There is a reason for this. They are attempting to trip you up in every form, way, manner and shape they can. You see, because of your position in the eyes of Almighty God, you are a special breed in His Divine creation. Nate We are sealed with the light of Christ. The dark side can see this. Lucifer, 1/3 demonic fallen angelsThe mastermind behind the watchers is Lucifer. Now Lucifer has been a special trickster from the very beginning. It started when he and one third of his angels were thrown out of the heavens. This continued into the Garden of Eden. He was the one responsible for deceiving both Adam and Eve. He is the master deceiver of all times. His special agents do not rest. Their mission is to make you miserable at all costs. He is determined to be the cause of your ultimate destruction. He and his evil forces are responsible for everything that is wrong on this planet. Thank God his powers are confined ONLY to the planet Earth. The rest of the Universe is clear and clean of his powers. The massive universe contains many life forms of which few human beings have knowledge. However, the Earth is still struggling under his powerful influence. Keep in mind that Lucifer is no fool. He is tactful and well experienced in his field of mass deception and trickery. He has managed to deceive many world leaders into believing great lies. He is a master of all lies. Those who speak lies on Earth have opened themselves up to the power and influence of Lucifer. Nate Understand about lucifer. Why is he still called lucifer and not the devil? Other assorted special agents — Man in Black and Women in Black The dark forces include special agents who have been thoroughly trained in schools by Lucifer himself. These are those who are called “Man in Black.” This is not altogether true because there are also “Women in Black.” Believe it or not there are also certain animals who are trained by evil forces to carry out acts of willing and wanton murder. I am writing this article because I want you all to be warned and aware of the times in which we are presently living. Man in Black have often been associated with certain types of flying saucers. The UFOs in question are shaped like “”BEE HIVES.” If you are ever accosted by one of these, or if you see one of these landed or hovering above you, take cover in immediately as you pronounce the “Ring of Fire” around you without delay.I was personally accosted by Men in Black many years ago. Believe me when I state it is certainly NOT a very pleasant experience. Once you have encountered such evil “people,” you will never forget this unfortunate episode. I thank God we are protected by those who have been divinely commissioned to watch over us. More on that can be found later on in this article. That men and women in black are so called because they are always attired in black garments including black hats. The women in black act without mercy and are also determined to destroy you with impunity. I want you to become keenly aware that inasmuch as we are living in the last days, every effort on their part will be multiplied because of this awesome fact. The men and women in black have been responsible for many, many accidents both in the home as well as on the highways. This also includes mishaps by air. Make no mistake. We are in a constant warfare against these black forces who are surrounding this planet and are acting on a daily basis to get rid of you.
Nate Not heard of the men in black nor women in black. Is there scripture reference? 2. WORLD GOVERNMENTS Members of various intelligence agencies throughout the world are also watching you. In the event that you have ever spoken against the government, you are automatically on a special list, which is then transmitted to other governments of this world.. Some may think that this is not possible. Do not be deceived. Because of the manner in which information can be transmitted to date, this is not only possible, but also probable. If you have ever raised objections to the manner in which our own government is run, either in private conversation, by telephone or by any other electronic transmission, you may rest assured that you have made that special list. It behooves you, as a member of this organization, to be very careful of your conversations. Do not be among those who spout off about things of which you are not familiar. Be careful and aware at all times.. If you value your life, you will pay heed to my warnings. Do not take this too lightly because we are dealing with ultra-important matters. Do not be caught in any of these traps because if you do, you will not last too long on this planet. Be wise and guard your thoughts as well as your tongue. At times, you will find it wise to keep your opinions to yourself. Seek the truth of all matters and maintain the “Secret of Silence” for your life’s sake. At the same time, Spirit will reveal to you when to speak and when to remain silent.
If you were in attendance at the INNER CIRCLE meeting #22 in June, you were privy to such information which would indeed prepare you for the upcoming events that are destined to shape your own destiny in years to come. You would have heard about certain elements of Universal truths that would greatly assist you in your own powers of self discipline as well as self-governance. In other words, guarding your self against the evil powers of unscrupulous agents of secret government is very essential in these days of time as well as in days to come. You, my dear friends, are being watched every day that you live on this planet. The reality is that there are Angels who are responsible for reporting your every move, especially if you are among those who have failed to fall into line with the erroneous way of thinking. If you are a free thinker, and doer of the Word of the Living God, you are thereby marked and every one of your activities is being watched. The positive element is that you are one of those who have been eternally blessed by Almighty God, and you are doing exactly what The Master wishes you to do and say. Your life is truly an example for many others to follow. You have learned of the correct pathway and you are willing and able to lead many others in that lighted pathway of truth, love and light. Nate One thing disturbs me a bit. Lack of scripture to back this up. Where did Frank arrive at this information? 3. DIVINE OVERSEERS AND WATCHERS There exists in the Holy Writings many, many references regarding the true facts directly pertaining to the manner in which the Lord Himself has provided you with a shield and a protective cover. You are overshadowed by the mighty wings of His Divine Angels who have been entrusted with the responsibility of watching over you at all times. Inasmuch as we are all living in troublesome times, this shelter of His Divine Spirit is essential to your well-being. Nate He hides us in the shadow of his wings. When I first heard of the watchers I presumed they were on the good side. This article suggests watchers on both sides..hmm confusing. Protecting - Guardian Angels There is no question whatsoever that His Angels have been granted charge over you at all times. His Divine Angels are Heavenly messengers whose responsibility is not only to watch over you, but also to protect you at all times. You qualify for this attention because you have elected to call The Master your own. These Divine Angels fall into two categories. There are Guardian Angels and Ministering Angels. Every baby who is born on Earth is granted the privilege of having these two Angels immediately upon birth. These two classifications of Angels follow you throughout your entire journey on this planet Earth. It is my opinion that this year of 2003 will produce for a number of you, a physical manifestation whereby you will be gifted with the ability of not only seeing your Angels, but also conversing with them. There is only one danger that prevails in this scenario. There exists a danger that you might be prone to fall down and worship them if you actually see them. However, rest assured that they, your Angels, would NOT permit this to continue. They will offer you a mild rebuke in order to call you to your senses. Ministering Angels are equally important, and as effective as your Guardian Angels. They will in fact seek to guard you against all harm and danger by directly speaking to your heart because you are the heirs of Almighty God and are therefore called “ His Children.” Ministering Angels are quite unique inasmuch as their mission is to watch over you constantly and seize upon every opportunity to tend to you in your hour of need . If you are living on a higher plane of Spiritual enlightenment, this will become an important event in your every day living. You will therefore become very attuned to their voice as you enjoy them instructing you at all times. They will also assist you in making certain decisions in your life in order to prevent you from making the wrong choices. The bottom line remains that you fully recognize the truth of your own respective Angels, and work with them in the manner in which the Almighty has appointed them to serve you. If you recognize this fact, you will be in an excellent position to live a most wonderful and fruitful life during your journey through life on planet Earth. Nate Ive known of worshipping angels, ministering angels, personal angels,.guardian angels, warring angels. I often activate my angels when I pray. Ive seen a number of different kinds including my guardian. Heavenly Light Messengers Commander Valiant Thor There exist those beings of that, along with your personal Angels, have been dispatched from other worlds to assist you. Some have termed them as “space beings” from other worlds. Inasmuch no one alive can dictate to the Creator what He can or cannot do, He is in control of all of these beings (Angels) that have come to Earth by Divine Command. Such an excellent example of this is Commander Valiant Thor. He is on a special mission, not only to assist you but also many others on this planet including children. Acting under Divine Command, he and others of his crew follow instructions to the very letter. They do not vary from one assignment to the other. They do not hesitate or waste time in any respect of the word. They know exactly whom they should contact and whom they should not. Many people have questioned me personally as to whom our friends would meet and why. It does not work this way. It is entirely up to them, and at their discretion, whom they will meet and why. It is certainly NOT up to me. We have actually had people leave this organization, because they felt they should meet the Commander and did not . It is very unfortunate that this situation still prevails to this day. I have been offered huge sums of money by people wanting the privilege of meeting with the Commander. Note: if this is the only reason that you are still one of our members, please do not be disillusioned any longer. The fact still remains that the Commander makes all of his own choices under the guidance and direction of Our Creator. Their mission on Earth is to carry out the express will of the Creator. When He commands them to act, they act. If they are commanded to move from one location to another, they move without asking why. If they are commanded to meet with certain world leaders, they do so without question. Their timing is always of the essence.. Make no mistake. They do not and cannot act on their own. Every move they make is cleared by the Supreme Commander and Creator of the Universe. These beings watch over you. They send a beam into your home, your car or other areas where you are as they monitor your every move. That is, if you are a member in good standing, a faithful member of this Organization. There have been times when they have personally and quickly intervened in situations that would have otherwise proven fatal. You have no doubt read of such occurrences in my book Stranger at the Pentagon. I believe I have covered this subject in a manner that you all will be able to comprehend. www.nextagemission.com/thewatchers.html
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Post by snow on Nov 7, 2014 20:36:18 GMT -5
More unverified stories from Stranges. @natan9 - you need a second source with some credibility. Couple of housekeeping items: 1) You didn't respond to the very clear photo of Valiant Thor showing 4 fingers and a thumb. 2) You did say whether you knew that Stranges had spent time in jail on drug charges. Where do you get the information Dr. Stranges had spent time in Jail on drug charges. Do you information to back it up? I would like to read it for myself.
Phil S was a US government, who had above top secret clearance. He met Valiant Thor in person and read his profile the gov't had on him. He said Valiant Thor had 6 fingers and 6 toes. The US examined VT body from head to toes, so I believe Phil S. report or words. There are ET with 6 fingers and 6 toes, so Valiant Thor 6 fingers and 6 toes NOT a supernatural thing. There are human beings with 6 fingers and 6 toes are living on the earth today!What about the picture that clearly shows him with 4 fingers and a thumb? Do pictures lie?
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Post by snow on Nov 7, 2014 20:55:14 GMT -5
What about the picture that clearly shows him with 4 fingers and a thumb? Do pictures lie? The picture of Valiant Thor hand is NOT very clear. Can you find a picture where we can see his hand clearly with 5 fingers, so it will leave NO doubt in our mind. That's a pretty clear picture Nathan. He has a ring on his little finger and three more fingers and a thumb. Here is a link to the same picture, just showing the hand a little clearer www.flickr.com/photos/7342591@N07/421932957/
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Post by snow on Nov 7, 2014 20:58:20 GMT -5
While this picture isn't as clear, his hand definitely shows up with 4 fingers and a thumb. It also states on this picture that he is being photographed with his alien friends and none of them have 6 fingers either!
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Post by rational on Nov 8, 2014 8:01:16 GMT -5
More unverified stories from Stranges. @natan9 - you need a second source with some credibility. Couple of housekeeping items: 1) You didn't respond to the very clear photo of Valiant Thor showing 4 fingers and a thumb. 2) You did say whether you knew that Stranges had spent time in jail on drug charges. Where do you get the information Dr. Stranges had spent time in Jail on drug charges. Do you information to back it up? I would like to read it for myself.I posted it. And you posted a photo of VT that clearly showed that there were not 6-digits. There are people with 6 digits. It is the dominate trait. VT, as seen in the photo you posted, clearly has 5 digits. Phil S. must have been not telling the truth. Or the photos you have been posting of VT are not of VT. Either of the claims can be true - not both. But they both could be false!
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Post by snow on Nov 8, 2014 11:34:39 GMT -5
Nathan, no comment on the number of fingers shown in those three pictures I posted? Clearly he does not have 6 digits and neither does the woman. Very clear.
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Post by bubbles on Nov 8, 2014 12:35:06 GMT -5
The Bible is just not the kind of book to describe the exact nature of angels but in every account, they bear a striking resemblance to mankind. It could be that no other creature comes close to possessing the moral sensitivities of the human being. Angels are created beings. Their primary job is serving the father. Resemblance in form yes like us.
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Post by snow on Nov 8, 2014 18:32:27 GMT -5
Nathan, no comment on the number of fingers shown in those three pictures I posted? Clearly he does not have 6 digits and neither does the woman. Very clear. Yes, I have seen the pictures and still NOT convince. I believe in Phil S. because he has seen Valiant Thor personal profile and met and talked to him in person. I think Phil S. knew his math the different between five and six fingers wouldn't you? you don't MAKE that kind of mistake.Nathan, have you ever considered maybe he isn't being truthful? Clearly in those pictures who ever is being photographed has only 5 digits. No one can miss that. Not even you.
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Post by rational on Nov 9, 2014 0:59:06 GMT -5
Nathan, no comment on the number of fingers shown in those three pictures I posted? Clearly he does not have 6 digits and neither does the woman. Very clear. Yes, I have seen the pictures and still NOT convince. I believe in Phil S. because he has seen Valiant Thor personal profile and met and talked to him in person. I think Phil S. knew his math the different between five and six fingers wouldn't you? you don't MAKE that kind of mistake.Wow NathanB. There are multiple photos that clearly show 5 digits. Either Phil S. is a fraud or the photos are not who you say they are. No, it is clear that Phil S. doesn't know the difference between 5 and 6 fingers. Or, if you really trust Phil S., the photos are not VT. My guess - the photos are not VT and Phil S. is making up a story as well. He has been caught in so many lies that there is no reason why this would be any different? Remember, he is the person who claimed that the 3-tier enclosed railroad care for transporting automobiles were actually 3-floor prisons. The government had hundreds of thousands built, according to Phil!
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Post by rational on Nov 9, 2014 1:12:16 GMT -5
Phil was telling the truth. As you said that Valiant Thor pictures have been doctored/distorted. So you are not saying that the photos you have been telling us are VT are not as they seem but are fakes? Someone has modified all of the people's hands? In the days before digital manipulation? NathanB, you are digging yourself into deeper hole of distortions. Can you show evidence that the photos have been doctored/distorted?
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Post by dmmichgood on Nov 9, 2014 1:54:15 GMT -5
1) Rational: I posted it. ~~ Can you post it again, Rational. Thanks.
2) Rational wrote: There are people with 6 digits. It is the dominate trait. VT, as seen in the photo you posted, clearly has 5 digits. Phil S. must have been not telling the truth. Or the photos you have been posting of VT are not of VT. Either of the claims can be true - not both. But they both could be false! ~~~ I agree somebody were messing with Valiant Thor pictures. He looks so different in some of the pictures were taken of him. Like others have said the photo can be manipulated or changed... Somebody was trying to discredit UFO contactees testimonies about ETs and UFO. Like the one they did with the Nordics woman ET Asket on Billy Meir case.www.youtube.com/watch?v=mHc8fFsORN0I believe Phil S. was telling the truth, because he had read Valiant Thor Above Top Secret profile from head to toes. Phil met and talked to Valiant Thor in person. Phil S. could count/know a BIG different between 5 and 6 fingers. OHMG! Nathan! So now you also realize that somebody could be messing with so-called Valiant Thor pictures.?
You now understand that photos can be manipulated or changed?
Yet you take everyone of those contrived hoax videos to be REAL?
When will you wake up to the fact that the WHOLE conspiracy UFO stuff is nonsense?
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Post by snow on Nov 9, 2014 10:25:55 GMT -5
OHMG! Nathan! So now you also realize that somebody could be messing with so-called Valiant Thor pictures.?
You now understand that photos can be manipulated or changed?
Yet you take everyone of those contrived hoax videos to be REAL?
When will you wake up to the fact that the WHOLE conspiracy UFO stuff is nonsense?
NOT all of UFO, ETs are nonsense... Your atheist belief is going down the drain, dmg.# 1) Boyd Bushman, a Senior Scientist- His Last Interview 2014: A Documentary on Area 51 and UFO's over Tucson, Arizona. Pictures of UFO, BIG mother ship, ET beings working within the US gov't www.youtube.com/results?search_query=Boyd+Bushman+-+His+Last+Interview%3A+# 2) Testimony Of Dying CIA Official 2013, About UFO's, Area51 in Nevada, a UFO crashed from Roswell, New Mexico, an Interview with a captured Extraterrestrial Grey alien. After an invasion of 1st Army from Colorado, USA threat (time 8:30) from President Eisenhower, he and his superior at the CIA were allowed inside the secretive Area 51 in Nevada to gather intel and report back to the president. There, "Anonymous" describes seeing several alien spacecraft, including the craft that crashed in Roswell, New Mexico. Then, he and his superior were taken to the S-4 facility southwest of Area 51 where they observed live extraterrestrials. President Eisenhower, Vice President Nixon, and the FBI director Hoover were surprised what's going on in Area51. www.youtube.com/watch?v=kZk_Sa3AO2E# 3) The World's Highest Ranking Canadian Minister of defense, Paul Hellyer Alien/UFOs Believer www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qt1WVeyMqdoPaul Hellyer's speech UFO/Aliens at Citizen hearing disclosure 2013: Some ETs Species who have visited and still visit Earth: Zeta Reticuli (Greys), Pleiadians (Nordics), - Tall Whites living on US Air Force Property - CABAL: Military Industrial Complex, Builderbergs, Cartels - Shadow Governments, Ruling Elite, Rockerfellers, Bush etc. www.youtube.com/watch?v=LcbCafpvIT0Nathan, don't play the 'atheist' card. Many atheists believe in UFO's. The reason why we don't believe in any of the stories you have posted is because it's not possible for what you have posted to be true. So many factors like the temperature of Venus for example, make what you are saying totally impossible. You have no verification that Phil Schneider is anything other than a fraud. The only thing you have to go on is 'he says he's the real thing'.
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Post by snow on Nov 9, 2014 13:17:51 GMT -5
Nathan, don't play the 'atheist' card. Many atheists believe in UFO's. The reason why we don't believe in any of the stories you have posted is because it's not possible for what you have posted to be true. So many factors like the temperature of Venus for example, make what you are saying totally impossible. You have no verification that Phil Schneider is anything other than a fraud. The only thing you have to go on is 'he says he's the real thing'. hmmmm... The atheists believe in UFO but do they believe the ETs control/flying the crafts? So, who created the ETs that are flying those UFOs AND where do they come from? The UFOs can't fly by itself you know.
Phil S. spoke his experienced mostly about the two greys he shot and killed in 1979. He helped the gov't to build undergrounds tunnels, military bases undergrounds... And that where he and over 100 US special forces met and had firefight with the ETs TALL greys. There are TOO many witnesses KNOWING and SEEING about the ETs coming forth telling the world about it. Phil is NOT a fraud, he was TELLING the truth about what he knew and seen with his own eyes.
The life and death of Phil Schneider 1996. VERY interesting Documented WWII history with the Germans and More .... Over 2,527,162 Viewers!
~~ Reptilians/Serpent race live underground for Hundreds, Thousands, millions of years. Firefight with tall greys in 1979 Dulce, New Mexico underground bases against the Tall greys aliens. Cities, tunnels, bases underground and seas around the world. Different races from other worlds live underground (15:00) Life of Phil Schneider and his father (34:00). Phil has an IQ of 163. ET Joint minds control programs with Military governments underground bases. (57:00) Organizations runs the world system: Religious, education, financial institutions, global elites, Military Industrial complex, control press, Intelligent groups NSA, CIA, FBI, etc... (59:16) Details of Phil's murder (1:12)
www.youtube.com/watch?v=XzWGsO0F3b8
~~ President Jimmy Carter ordered the Attacked on Dulce, New Mexico underground bases against the Tall greys/US scientists experiment/creating Hybrid race, Super Soldiers in 1979.
~~ Camelot: Kerry Cassidy interview in 2013 with Captain Mark Richards firefight with the tall greys in Ducle, New Mexico 1979. He confessed that the US governments have worked with many heavenly being races, Reptilians, Greys. The aliens within the Vatican.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=5bPhG3WP2xM
The Air Force Intelligence Officer that reportedly was the man who met with the Aliens at Holloman (Air Force Base) in 1964, was the legendary 'Dutchman,' Ellis Loyd Richards, Jr. - the same man who would reportedly order the attack on Dulce/New Mexico firefight with the tall greys in 1979, and whose son, Captain Mark Richards, would lead the human attack on the facility."---E.D.H. Earth Defense Head quarter's Technical Brief/ Winter - 2001 Edited by Captain MARK RICHARDS Published by - Earth Defense Headquarters www.edhca.org/ There are MANY president of USA have testified and known about the existence of ETs and UFOs. Presidents: Franklin R. Einsenhower, Nixon, Kennedy, Ronal Reagan, Jimmy Carter, both of the Father and Son George Bush presidents, and Obama.
Snow, do you believe these presidents own testimonies?Oh I think they think it's ET's, the ones that believe in UFO's anyway. Same way we got here Nathan, they evolved, according to the conditions on their planet/s. I have an idea. You write to those presidents that are still alive and ask them if they ever made the statements people say they have about ET's. You might just find out there is no truth whatsoever to these things. People can state anything they please about people. Doesn't make them true. So ask the people who are supposed to have said these things. You may or may not get an answer, but if one does, what will you do with a different answer than what you think is true?
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Post by matisse on Nov 9, 2014 13:34:09 GMT -5
Some background on the "Citizen Hearing on Disclosure"... "The first three days of UFO hearings have been…interesting. The Citizen Hearing on Disclosure is not a real congressional hearing. For a stipend of $20,000, six former members of Congress are sitting at the National Press Club and listening to 30 hours of testimony about UFOs. All of this is being filmed for a documentary."
from the Washington Post, an article by Alexandra Petri: Believe in UFOs? Highlights of the Citizen Hearing on Disclosure
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Post by rational on Nov 9, 2014 16:57:05 GMT -5
There are MANY president of USA have testified and known about the existence of ETs and UFOs. Presidents: Franklin R. Einsenhower, Nixon, Kennedy, Ronal Reagan, Jimmy Carter, both of the Father and Son George Bush presidents, and Obama. Snow, do you believe these presidents own testimonies? Provide a single authenticated source where any of the aformentioned presidents claims what you are saying. Don't post a lot of YouTube links. Don;t tell us what Phil S. claims. Don't quote Stranges. Just provide the doculemts that indicate the president's own testimony as you have claimed.
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Post by rational on Nov 9, 2014 17:02:43 GMT -5
NathanB - please post some REAL photos of Valiant Thor that have not been doctored. Thanks
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Post by xna on Nov 9, 2014 17:05:39 GMT -5
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Post by snow on Nov 9, 2014 17:36:48 GMT -5
Oh I think they think it's ET's, the ones that believe in UFO's anyway. Same way we got here Nathan, they evolved, according to the conditions on their planet/s. ~~ No, God created us and the ETs. Can you see any of the monkeys today evolved into a human YET?I have an idea. You write to those presidents that are still alive and ask them if they ever made the statements people say they have about ET's. You might just find out there is no truth whatsoever to these things. People can state anything they please about people. Doesn't make them true. So ask the people who are supposed to have said these things. You may or may not get an answer, but if one does, what will you do with a different answer than what you think is true? Many of USA presidents such as Eisenhower, John F. Kennedy, Nixon, Ronald Reagan, Jimmy Carter shared their experiences, belief on ET, UFOs it revealed on records, writings, talks while they were in office at the White House. I don't believe these president are lying about these things, do you? What is the purpose for them to LIE about the existence of ETs and UFOs.1) The President Dwight D. Eisenhower's ET contact in the early 1950's. He met extra terrestrials at a remote air base in New Mexico in 1954, according to lecturer and author Timothy Good, the first meeting took place with aliens who were "Nordic/Human looking" (Plejaren) in appearance. But he claims an agreement was "signed" with a race called " Big Nose/Large Greys/Eben. These creatures weren't benevolent alien beings who had come to enlighten human beings. They were genetically altered human automatons, cloned biological entities, actually who were harvesting biological specimens on EARTH for the their own experimentation Hybrid/human race projects."www.bibliotecapleyades.net/exopolitica/esp_exopolitics_Q.htm~~ U-tube President Eisenhower made contact with ET www.youtube.com/watch?v=KGaSSCM_5-Y&feature=related 2) ETs/President Kennedy by Maurice Osborn 2002. History of the UFO crashed in Roswell, 1947. The Pleiades blond hair/blue eyes human looking aliens species warned the President Eisenhower about the Greys intention taken over the world. (At 023:00) President Kennedy was going to deliver a speech on the existence of ALIENS but THEY assassinated. Listen to the letter he wrote. At (0:40:00). He found out the black projects, drug smuggling and the existence of aliens. He issues an ultimatum to MJ-12, the Secret government Agency in charge, to cease and desist or he will reveal what he has discovered to the public. On November 22, 1963, John F. Kennedy is assassinated in Dallas, Texas, on the orders of the Secret Government. It should be noted that the vested interests of, not one group, but rather numerous groups involved with the Secret Government, were at stake.www.youtube.com/watch?v=9QYpRsWvylE~~~ Kennedy Clashed with CIA/MJ12www.bibliotecapleyades.net/exopolitica/exopolitics_kennedy01.htmChief among these was the escalating U.S. involvement in Vietnam that Kennedy wanted to end and was why he was assassinated. There is, however, a more compelling reason for why the CIA wanted Kennedy removal for office. The assassination of President Kennedy directly resulted from his efforts to gain access to the CIA control of classified UFO files. Unknown to Kennedy, a set of secret MJ-12 directives issued by his former CIA Director, Allen Dulles, ruled out any cooperation with Kennedy and his national security staff on the UFO issue. In doing so, James Angleton arranged for a communist defector/Lee Oswald to be involved so as to eventually take the blame and ensure that no thorough investigation would follow by federal or congressional authorities.
www.bibliotecapleyades.net/exopolitica/exopolitics_kennedy02.htmNathan, before you make comments about monkeys you need to study up on it a bit. You might surprise yourself if you actually studied what evolution actually says. It's pretty amazing in comparison to 'poof, God did it'. I doubt the presidents would lie about it though I would think that you're argument would be that they would. After all don't they head the government that you say is lying to us and hiding everything from us. So given that understanding, you know are believing that the presidents are saying 'yes' there are ET's that have landed and we've met with them? Isn't that a blatant contradiction of the conspiracy you are saying is happening? The trouble with those who think up these conspiracy theories is that they go on and on about a government that hides everything from the public, and in their next breathe are trying to prove these conspiracies are true with statements from presidents saying they have seen ET's. Can't have it both ways Nathan.
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Post by snow on Nov 9, 2014 17:47:16 GMT -5
The CIA may have kept President Bill Clinton! out of the ETs loops or he Bill is lying to the public. Many of the presidents before and after him knew about the existence of ETs and UFOs. President Ronald Regan: In an address to the United Nations on September 21, 1987, President Ronald Reagan stated, "I occasionally think how quickly our differences world wide would vanish if we were facing an alien threat from outside this world." Why would President Reagan have made such a profound statement about the possible reality of alien life in outer space? What did Ronald Reagan really know about extraterrestrials?www.bing.com/videos/search?q=Ronald+Regan+speech+about+Aliens&FORM=VIRE2#view=detail&mid=E0521A2AD7F8BF8F159AE0521A2AD7F8BF8F159AOh come on Nathan. They are lying if they don't say what you want to believe and they are telling the truth if they say what you want to hear.
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Post by rational on Nov 9, 2014 18:46:39 GMT -5
President Ronald Regan:In an address to the United Nations on September 21, 1987, President Ronald Reagan stated, "I occasionally think how quickly our differences world wide would vanish if we were facing an alien threat from outside this world." Why would President Reagan have made such a profound statement about the possible reality of alien life in outer space? What did Ronald Reagan really know about extraterrestrials? What is profound about the statement? Sounds like a person thinking about how foolish the differences are over which men kill other other men. But then again - The Regan administration used the services of an astrologer while in the White House. That should be a guage of his grasp on reality!
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Post by dmmichgood on Nov 9, 2014 19:08:34 GMT -5
President Ronald Regan: In an address to the United Nations on September 21, 1987, President Ronald Reagan stated, "I occasionally think how quickly our differences world wide would vanish if we were facing an alien threat from outside this world." Why would President Reagan have made such a profound statement about the possible reality of alien life in outer space? What did Ronald Reagan really know about extraterrestrials? That isn't a "profound statement" for a President or anyone else to make!
I, & many other people have thought the same thing when we see nations fighting each other all the time!
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Post by snow on Nov 9, 2014 19:51:20 GMT -5
nathan I read the wiki one and could you please point out in that article where it says that 'Ronald Reagan prepared the United States to shoot down hostile ET's who entered the earth to abduct humans with their space crafts'? No where in that article does it mention anything other than protection from weapons that were originated on Earth. Not one mention of ET's. Did you read it?
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Post by SharonArnold on Nov 9, 2014 20:34:24 GMT -5
Back to the OP (while listening to Alabama):
Every blade of grass has an angel that bends over it and whispers, "Grow! Grow!" - The Talmud
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Post by dmmichgood on Nov 10, 2014 1:02:49 GMT -5
nathan I read the wiki one and could you please point out in that article where it says that 'Ronald Reagan prepared the United States to shoot down hostile ET's who entered the earth to abduct humans with their space crafts'? No where in that article does it mention anything other than protection from weapons that were originated on Earth. Not one mention of ET's. Did you read it? I got that from president's document and Ronald Regan SDI program.~~ Space War -- Aliens UFO being Attacked by us www.youtube.com/watch?v=m5RDN308Dn0~~ Using space Weapon against E.T. www.bibliotecapleyades.net/exopolitica/esp_exopolitics_ZZN.htmPRESIDENT: OK, ADVISER #1, please continue, we cut you off. ADVISER #1: OK, thanks, Mr President. Nathan, that conversation had nothing to do with Ronald Regan's SDI program.
It is an obvious forgery by Michael E. Salla.
He gets by with it by NOT actually calling President "Regan" by name. He just said , "Mr President"
Those people know all the ways of getting away with their nonsense without being held accountable .
And you seem not see the tricks & fall for everything that they say!
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