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Post by snow on Oct 17, 2013 22:16:08 GMT -5
Ain't that the truth!! My 7 yr old granddaughter recently received $80.00 for a tooth--not even her first tooth to lose! (not from family) I think my tooth fairy left about 25 cents under my pillow! Y'all must be youngsters. I never got more than a dime, and that was rare! Ha! yes I didn't always get visited every time I lost a tooth either. I think I started with a dime and gradually went up to a quarter. Must have been in the cusp of tooth fairy increases!
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Post by quizzer on Oct 19, 2013 18:17:29 GMT -5
Keeping everyone on their toes - I like that! It's a tough job being 'weather'!! But someone's got to do it!
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Post by Deleted on Oct 22, 2013 21:21:05 GMT -5
Its a mixed message. What's Brad's biggest concern ... to stop kids getting molested or to make workers register for tax? Or simply to condemn and destroy the church in any way that he can? It's possible to achieve 1 and 2 without 3.
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Post by rational on Oct 22, 2013 21:37:48 GMT -5
Its a mixed message. What's Brad's biggest concern ... to stop kids getting molested or to make workers register for tax? Or simply to condemn and destroy the church in any way that he can? It's possible to achieve 1 and 2 without 3. What would be the point of making workers register for taxes?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 22, 2013 21:41:19 GMT -5
It's possible to achieve 1 and 2 without 3. What would be the point of making workers register for taxes? It's the law. Either the workers have to register the church with the government to achieve tax-exempt status or pay taxes on the money they receive.
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Post by rational on Oct 22, 2013 21:55:37 GMT -5
What would be the point of making workers register for taxes? It's the law. Either the workers have to register the church with the government to achieve tax-exempt status or pay taxes on the money they receive. If you are talking about workers in the US you are in error. Income is taxed. What would be the nexus of the taxation?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 22, 2013 22:03:39 GMT -5
It's the law. Either the workers have to register the church with the government to achieve tax-exempt status or pay taxes on the money they receive. If you are talking about workers in the US you are in error. Income is taxed. What would be the nexus of the taxation? Then I don't get it why it's an issue. Is it taxes workers should have paid on the interest on money given to them? I've been aware of rumors for the last 25 years that high level American/Canadian workers may be in trouble over large amounts of money they have in a bank account they have not declared to the government. As far as I know none of them have actually been penalized though. If what you are saying is correct, then I agree with you.
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Post by rational on Oct 23, 2013 7:01:05 GMT -5
If you are talking about workers in the US you are in error. Income is taxed. What would be the nexus of the taxation? Then I don't get it why it's an issue. It's not an issue.If the money generates interest then the entity who holds the account needs to claim that income and pay any taxes owed.Have you ever tried to open a bank account and not provide a tax id? If there are sums of money in accounts the owner of the tax id will be responsible for the taxes. In most cases the banks report the income to the federal tax agent. Of course, there could be millions in safe deposit boxes. But safe deposit boxes do not pay interest so there is no income to report.Do you think the government is just letting it slip? Or could the rumors be coming from ill-informed/uninformed individuals? You could look up the tax codes and see if I am in error.
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Post by sharingtheriches on Oct 23, 2013 8:54:42 GMT -5
Y'all must be youngsters. I never got more than a dime, and that was rare! Ha! yes I didn't always get visited every time I lost a tooth either. I think I started with a dime and gradually went up to a quarter. Must have been in the cusp of tooth fairy increases! I had a whole lot more luck with carrying my transparent plastic purse around.....But if I could have counted on getting some money for each tooth I lost, then I'd made a killing...I lost 2 whole sets of teeth and the last ones that came in didn't have a good root system...so they were bad about crumbling out of the gums also. Just think 3 mouthfuls of teeth loss times a dollar even....sheesh, probably would have bought my first car....ha ha
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Post by sharingtheriches on Oct 23, 2013 8:59:20 GMT -5
Then I don't get it why it's an issue. It's not an issue.If the money generates interest then the entity who holds the account needs to claim that income and pay any taxes owed.Have you ever tried to open a bank account and not provide a tax id? If there are sums of money in accounts the owner of the tax id will be responsible for the taxes. In most cases the banks report the income to the federal tax agent. Of course, there could be millions in safe deposit boxes. But safe deposit boxes do not pay interest so there is no income to report.Do you think the government is just letting it slip? Or could the rumors be coming from ill-informed/uninformed individuals? You could look up the tax codes and see if I am in error. My understanding from those "same" rumors is that the workers have the money in foreign country banks...perhaps Israel being one of them so that when Jesus comes or if the country falls to the Islam faith, then they can all migrate to Israel and there would be enough money to see them through....just somethings I've heard. And I don't find it such a bad thing...although IF there should be interest bearing accounts even in the foreign country banks, then that is profit and taxation usually happens on that.
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Post by rational on Oct 23, 2013 9:53:26 GMT -5
My understanding from those "same" rumors is that the workers have the money in foreign country banks...perhaps Israel being one of them so that when Jesus comes or if the country falls to the Islam faith, then they can all migrate to Israel and there would be enough money to see them through....just somethings I've heard. And I don't find it such a bad thing...although IF there should be interest bearing accounts even in the foreign country banks, then that is profit and taxation usually happens on that. Wow. The savior of all mankind is coming and the faithful are worried about cash supplies to make the wait happen in comfort. Will the banks still be in operation?
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Post by snow on Oct 23, 2013 10:44:51 GMT -5
My understanding from those "same" rumors is that the workers have the money in foreign country banks...perhaps Israel being one of them so that when Jesus comes or if the country falls to the Islam faith, then they can all migrate to Israel and there would be enough money to see them through....just somethings I've heard. And I don't find it such a bad thing...although IF there should be interest bearing accounts even in the foreign country banks, then that is profit and taxation usually happens on that. Wow. The savior of all mankind is coming and the faithful are worried about cash supplies to make the wait happen in comfort. Will the banks still be in operation? I was sent this by my 'you're going to hell' sister yesterday. So I have first hand knowledge now that the end is near!!! www.wnd.com/2013/10/billy-graham-sounds-alarm-for-2nd-coming/
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Post by Deleted on Oct 23, 2013 12:52:13 GMT -5
Wow. The savior of all mankind is coming and the faithful are worried about cash supplies to make the wait happen in comfort. Will the banks still be in operation? I was sent this by my 'you're going to hell' sister yesterday. So I have first hand knowledge now that the end is near!!! www.wnd.com/2013/10/billy-graham-sounds-alarm-for-2nd-coming/Graham has become a universalist so I wouldn't worry too much. According to him pretty much everyone is going to heaven anyway
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Post by rational on Oct 23, 2013 13:06:58 GMT -5
I was sent this by my 'you're going to hell' sister yesterday. So I have first hand knowledge now that the end is near!!! I am not sure whether the end is near or far but I think we have slid into the end times. This is according to the sacred stories handed down over time. Many, many moons ago, before there was even a moon, there was a tiny spec that suddenly became the universe. After a time there was a sun, and an earth, a moon that would sometimes pass on the dark side of the earth and appear red. The ancients believed that a number of these so-called "blood moons" the whole thing would come falling down. As it turns out, the data checks out. The sun has about 5 billion years left. But in less than 2 billion years the sun will begin to get much brighter and larger. We will all be toast! That is about as end-times as it can get.
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Post by snow on Oct 23, 2013 16:55:13 GMT -5
I was sent this by my 'you're going to hell' sister yesterday. So I have first hand knowledge now that the end is near!!! I am not sure whether the end is near or far but I think we have slid into the end times. This is according to the sacred stories handed down over time. Many, many moons ago, before there was even a moon, there was a tiny spec that suddenly became the universe. After a time there was a sun, and an earth, a moon that would sometimes pass on the dark side of the earth and appear red. The ancients believed that a number of these so-called "blood moons" the whole thing would come falling down. As it turns out, the data checks out. The sun has about 5 billion years left. But in less than 2 billion years the sun will begin to get much brighter and larger. We will all be toast! That is about as end-times as it can get. Well that kind of end times I can believe. Someone dropping down from the sky gathering people up from graves and where ever, not so much! However, I still think getting into the business of taking care of the pets of those who are raptured would be profitable. I'm pretty much assured of being 'left behind' and I love animals, so it sounds like a good deal for me.
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Post by quizzer on Oct 23, 2013 17:51:40 GMT -5
It's possible to achieve 1 and 2 without 3. What would be the point of making workers register for taxes? I would say that the workers should file income tax papers for their own protection. Granted, most of them are just kids when they become workers. However, if there were an error in their income tax filing before they went into the work, then it couldn't compound over the years. Also, if a new ruling comes to pass about income tax filing, up-to-date income tax filing won't allow the government to reach back over numerous unfiled years.
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Post by faune on Oct 23, 2013 18:03:14 GMT -5
I was sent this by my 'you're going to hell' sister yesterday. So I have first hand knowledge now that the end is near!!! I am not sure whether the end is near or far but I think we have slid into the end times. This is according to the sacred stories handed down over time. Many, many moons ago, before there was even a moon, there was a tiny spec that suddenly became the universe. After a time there was a sun, and an earth, a moon that would sometimes pass on the dark side of the earth and appear red. The ancients believed that a number of these so-called "blood moons" the whole thing would come falling down. As it turns out, the data checks out. The sun has about 5 billion years left. But in less than 2 billion years the sun will begin to get much brighter and larger. We will all be toast! That is about as end-times as it can get. Rational ~ Here's a recent update along similar lines that you shared above: www.escapeallthesethings.com/end-of-the-world-nemesis.htm
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Post by faune on Oct 23, 2013 18:10:48 GMT -5
I am not sure whether the end is near or far but I think we have slid into the end times. This is according to the sacred stories handed down over time. Many, many moons ago, before there was even a moon, there was a tiny spec that suddenly became the universe. After a time there was a sun, and an earth, a moon that would sometimes pass on the dark side of the earth and appear red. The ancients believed that a number of these so-called "blood moons" the whole thing would come falling down. As it turns out, the data checks out. The sun has about 5 billion years left. But in less than 2 billion years the sun will begin to get much brighter and larger. We will all be toast! That is about as end-times as it can get. Well that kind of end times I can believe. Someone dropping down from the sky gathering people up from graves and where ever, not so much! However, I still think getting into the business of taking care of the pets of those who are raptured would be profitable. I'm pretty much assured of being 'left behind' and I love animals, so it sounds like a good deal for me. Snow ~ Maybe our pets will be resurrected first, since they understand "unconditional love" better than we humans? Afterall, they're man's best friend, aren't they?
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Post by snow on Oct 23, 2013 20:19:12 GMT -5
Well that kind of end times I can believe. Someone dropping down from the sky gathering people up from graves and where ever, not so much! However, I still think getting into the business of taking care of the pets of those who are raptured would be profitable. I'm pretty much assured of being 'left behind' and I love animals, so it sounds like a good deal for me. Snow ~ Maybe our pets will be resurrected first, since they understand "unconditional love" better than we humans? Afterall, they're man's best friend, aren't they? It would make sense they would be the first to go! They are definitely far more loyal and loving than any human seems to be.
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Post by dmmichgood on Oct 23, 2013 22:14:56 GMT -5
Wow. The savior of all mankind is coming and the faithful are worried about cash supplies to make the wait happen in comfort. Will the banks still be in operation? I was sent this by my 'you're going to hell' sister yesterday. So I have first hand knowledge now that the end is near!!! www.wnd.com/2013/10/billy-graham-sounds-alarm-for-2nd-coming/Wow. The savior of all mankind is coming and the faithful are worried about cash supplies to make the wait happen in comfort. Will the banks still be in operation? I was sent this by my 'you're going to hell' sister yesterday. So I have first hand knowledge now that the end is near!!! www.wnd.com/2013/10/billy-graham-sounds-alarm-for-2nd-coming/ I wouldn't worry about "end times"!
Every generation of Christians seem to believe they will be the ones living in The End Times!
I'm not sure why they believe that, except I think that it somehow makes them feel special!
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Post by snow on Oct 24, 2013 10:19:09 GMT -5
I wouldn't worry about "end times"!
Every generation of Christians seem to believe they will be the ones living in The End Times!
I'm not sure why they believe that, except I think that it somehow makes them feel special!
I read something interesting the other day about how humans brains work. That the intermittent reward received by prayer is the same psychological conditioning that keeps people gambling. For some reason humans are wired to get addicted to something if their is intermittent reward. People who pray do sometimes get their wish and when they attribute it to a God, then they start to believe the entity exists. Another interesting thing about it was this. If they got what they wanted all the time they would soon become bored, just like it if we won all the time at a game or gambling. It is the losses or the non answers to prayers that make the whole thing addicting. Don't know how much truth there is to it, but I found it interesting.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 24, 2013 10:25:22 GMT -5
I wouldn't worry about "end times"!
Every generation of Christians seem to believe they will be the ones living in The End Times!
I'm not sure why they believe that, except I think that it somehow makes them feel special!
I read something interesting the other day about how humans brains work. That the intermittent reward received by prayer is the same psychological conditioning that keeps people gambling. For some reason humans are wired to get addicted to something if their is intermittent reward. People who pray do sometimes get their wish and when they attribute it to a God, then they start to believe the entity exists. Another interesting thing about it was this. If they got what they wanted all the time they would soon become bored, just like it if we won all the time at a game or gambling. It is the losses or the non answers to prayers that make the whole thing addicting. Don't know how much truth there is to it, but I found it interesting. Random reinforcement from Skinner's "'Superstition' in Pigeons," 1948, Experimental Psychology. Someone followed this up with prayer, obviously!
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Post by snow on Oct 24, 2013 11:05:15 GMT -5
I read something interesting the other day about how humans brains work. That the intermittent reward received by prayer is the same psychological conditioning that keeps people gambling. For some reason humans are wired to get addicted to something if their is intermittent reward. People who pray do sometimes get their wish and when they attribute it to a God, then they start to believe the entity exists. Another interesting thing about it was this. If they got what they wanted all the time they would soon become bored, just like it if we won all the time at a game or gambling. It is the losses or the non answers to prayers that make the whole thing addicting. Don't know how much truth there is to it, but I found it interesting. Random reinforcement from Skinner's "'Superstition' in Pigeons," 1948, Experimental Psychology. Someone followed this up with prayer, obviously! Looks like it. Or Pavlov's reward of dogs (Classical conditioning). Ring a bell then feed the dog and if you do it often enough, all you have to do is ring the bell and the dog will physiologically react to the sound by salivating.
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Post by rational on Oct 24, 2013 14:55:15 GMT -5
I wouldn't worry about "end times"!
Every generation of Christians seem to believe they will be the ones living in The End Times! :D
I'm not sure why they believe that, except I think that it somehow makes them feel special! ;)
I read something interesting the other day about how humans brains work. That the intermittent reward received by prayer is the same psychological conditioning that keeps people gambling. For some reason humans are wired to get addicted to something if their is intermittent reward. People who pray do sometimes get their wish and when they attribute it to a God, then they start to believe the entity exists. Another interesting thing about it was this. If they got what they wanted all the time they would soon become bored, just like it if we won all the time at a game or gambling. It is the losses or the non answers to prayers that make the whole thing addicting. Don't know how much truth there is to it, but I found it interesting. I think the term you are looking for is intermittent reinforcement. Works well on the slot machines which provide about 70% of a casino's revenue. They state, usually right up front, that their slots pay some percentage - say 96%. If every time you bet $1 you got $0.96 you would stop playing. It is the frequent payouts of small amounts, less frequent payouts of medium amounts, and the promise of very large, but very, very infrequent large amounts. Small and medium winnings are often re-bet. However, at the end of the day the average person walks away with about $0.96 for every $1.00 they bet. The fun thing about random reinforcement is that it does cause superstitious behavior. Skinner demonstrated it in Pigeons. (I think the phrase you were looking for was operant conditioning.)
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Post by Gene on Oct 24, 2013 17:52:35 GMT -5
I read something interesting the other day about how humans brains work. That the intermittent reward received by prayer is the same psychological conditioning that keeps people gambling. For some reason humans are wired to get addicted to something if their is intermittent reward. People who pray do sometimes get their wish and when they attribute it to a God, then they start to believe the entity exists. Another interesting thing about it was this. If they got what they wanted all the time they would soon become bored, just like it if we won all the time at a game or gambling. It is the losses or the non answers to prayers that make the whole thing addicting. Don't know how much truth there is to it, but I found it interesting. I think the term you are looking for is intermittent reinforcement. Works well on the slot machines which provide about 70% of a casino's revenue. They state, usually right up front, that their slots pay some percentage - say 96%. If every time you bet $1 you got $0.96 you would stop playing. It is the frequent payouts of small amounts, less frequent payouts of medium amounts, and the promise of very large, but very, very infrequent large amounts. Small and medium winnings are often re-bet. However, at the end of the day the average person walks away with about $0.96 for every $1.00 they bet. The fun thing about random reinforcement is that it does cause superstitious behavior. Skinner demonstrated it in Pigeons. (I think the phrase you were looking for was operant conditioning.)So I can get $1000 worth of entertainment for only $40? That's actually a pretty good deal! I may have to take up gambling.
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Post by rational on Oct 24, 2013 18:23:05 GMT -5
So I can get $1000 worth of entertainment for only $40? That's actually a pretty good deal! I may have to take up gambling. If you go to Vegas and are willing to play with even worse odds I have found that you can sit at the lowest cost roulette table and get free drinks as well! And it is fun watching the other players trying to figure out which number is "due"!
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Post by rational on Oct 24, 2013 18:26:32 GMT -5
Random reinforcement from Skinner's "'Superstition' in Pigeons," 1948, Experimental Psychology. Someone followed this up with prayer, obviously! Isn't is sad that they wouldn't let the pigeons guide the bombs/missiles? They were so diligent!
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Post by Gene on Oct 24, 2013 18:26:40 GMT -5
So I can get $1000 worth of entertainment for only $40? That's actually a pretty good deal! I may have to take up gambling. If you go to Vegas and are willing to play with even worse odds I have found that you can sit at the lowest cost roulette table and get free drinks as well! And it is fun watching the other players trying to figure out which number is "due"! I've never gambled because I thought there were better ways to spend my entertainment budget. But I may have been wrong. You make it sound like fun... and inexpensive.
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