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Post by snow on Feb 3, 2015 22:08:20 GMT -5
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Post by snow on Feb 4, 2015 10:48:11 GMT -5
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Post by rational on Feb 4, 2015 12:50:52 GMT -5
Is the death penalty justified just because it was approved by the courts? Or is it still murder? By calling it murder you have already determined that it was the unlawful killing of a human being. It is the law/courts that turns homicide into murder. Justified is another question.
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Post by snow on Feb 4, 2015 16:20:53 GMT -5
Is the death penalty justified just because it was approved by the courts? Or is it still murder? By calling it murder you have already determined that it was the unlawful killing of a human being. It is the law/courts that turns homicide into murder. Justified is another question. You're right. I believe it is still murder. Not everyone does though. So I should reword that shouldn't I. Is the death penalty justified because it is court approved? Is Saudi beheading someone because it is court ordered ok, but ISIS beheading someone is not? Was hanging someone justified because it was court approved? I guess the way I look at it, we are still taking someone's life. Just because the justice system says it's ok, is it really? Do you agree that Saudi can behead people when it's court approved and that's ok?
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Post by bubbles on Feb 4, 2015 20:37:03 GMT -5
Australia is one of the most peaceful countries to live.
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Post by snow on Feb 4, 2015 20:46:03 GMT -5
Australia is one of the most peaceful countries to live. I loved Australia when I was there. I think I can say the same about Canada though. I am so glad I live in Canada but I have often thought it wouldn't be so bad to live in Australia and it would hopefully be warmer all the time if I could live up around Townsville lol...
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Post by snow on Feb 6, 2015 15:30:01 GMT -5
Really like this quote by the Dalai Lama I came across today.
'This is my simple religion. There is no need for temples. No need for complicated philosophy. Our own brain, our own heart is our temple. The philosophy is kindness.'
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Post by xna on Feb 7, 2015 15:56:30 GMT -5
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Post by snow on Feb 7, 2015 17:06:02 GMT -5
I love how these stats that claim to be in 'America' never include Canada or Mexico? Guess we aren't part of North America? However, interesting stats. 50%. Wonder when people are going to quit getting married. More and more don't bother anymore. It would be interesting to do a study based on how long people on average lived together and how often they split up. Are common law marriages longer lived than traditional marriages I wonder.
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Post by xna on Feb 7, 2015 17:41:56 GMT -5
I love how these stats that claim to be in 'America' never include Canada or Mexico? Guess we aren't part of North America? It's the US culture. Note if you are an atheist you are less likely to get divorced. Would that be a blessing or a curse???
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Post by snow on Feb 7, 2015 19:16:55 GMT -5
I love how these stats that claim to be in 'America' never include Canada or Mexico? Guess we aren't part of North America? It's the US culture. Note if you are an atheist you are less likely to get divorced. Would that be a blessing or a curse??? Well since we don't believe in a God for a blessing or voodoo for a curse, neither? It maybe means since it's not a sin to get a divorce we don't feel as trapped and so we are more comfortable! Not that religion always means you can't divorce, but a lot of them frown on it.
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Post by rational on Feb 8, 2015 13:29:01 GMT -5
A good example of what you can do with numbers! The 50% at the top gets the reader's attention. But at the bottom none of the states mentioned have a 50% rate. Could it be that they are presenting the data in an inconsistent way? I noticed that 50 of 100 marriages end in divorce. Yet in the state with the highest divorce rate less than 15 out of 100 end in divorce. I wonder if someone forgot to mention the time frame. Or perhaps there is another explanation. Looking around the internet, the number jumps around a lot depending on how it is measured. DivorceandGraph1.pdf (54.1 KB) Here is one with a rate of 25%.
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Post by bubbles on Feb 8, 2015 19:02:21 GMT -5
Like any data input it is only as good as the person entering it.
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Post by snow on Feb 11, 2015 21:04:47 GMT -5
This is a talk that Michael Shermer is doing for his new book the Moral Arc which I am currently reading. Just started today actually. Xna stated he was reading it so thought he might be interested in the talk also? Bert, I don't know if you read this thread, but you are always talking about morality declining. Have a listen if you can and if not, maybe read the book. It is actually pretty good so far. www.skeptic.com/past-lectures/the-moral-arc/
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Post by faune on Feb 11, 2015 21:12:04 GMT -5
I love how these stats that claim to be in 'America' never include Canada or Mexico? Guess we aren't part of North America? However, interesting stats. 50%. Wonder when people are going to quit getting married. More and more don't bother anymore. It would be interesting to do a study based on how long people on average lived together and how often they split up. Are common law marriages longer lived than traditional marriages I wonder. Snow ~ No kidding! LOL I noticed that Communication is #1 and Finances #2 in marriage break-ups. I wonder what is #1 in sticking it out for the long-haul? ~ Perhaps high pain tolerance? LOL
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Post by snow on Feb 11, 2015 22:15:28 GMT -5
I love how these stats that claim to be in 'America' never include Canada or Mexico? Guess we aren't part of North America? However, interesting stats. 50%. Wonder when people are going to quit getting married. More and more don't bother anymore. It would be interesting to do a study based on how long people on average lived together and how often they split up. Are common law marriages longer lived than traditional marriages I wonder. Snow ~ No kidding! LOL I noticed that Communication is #1 and Finances #2 in marriage break-ups. I wonder what is #1 in sticking it out for the long-haul? ~ Perhaps high pain tolerance? LOL I think a lot of people get married because they think their partner of choice has something to offer them. The ones that last probably enter a marriage with something to offer instead of expecting to receive something. That way they don't get disappointed if they don't get what they were looking for?
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Post by dmmichgood on Feb 12, 2015 1:45:30 GMT -5
Snow ~ No kidding! LOL I noticed that Communication is #1 and Finances #2 in marriage break-ups. I wonder what is #1 in sticking it out for the long-haul? ~ Perhaps high pain tolerance? LOL I think a lot of people get married because they think their partner of choice has something to offer them. The ones that last probably enter a marriage with something to offer instead of expecting to receive something. That way they don't get disappointed if they don't get what they were looking for? There are some statistics that show divorce rates higher in the Bible Belt than in some other areas of the US.
Analysis as to why may be that people don't allow sex before marriage in the more fundamental Christian South therefore they marry younger.
Younger marriages have to give up more advanced education, thus lower paying jobs creating more economic problems.
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Post by rational on Feb 12, 2015 12:27:35 GMT -5
Analysis as to why may be that people don't allow sex before marriage in the more fundamental Christian South therefore they marry younger. Don't allow is different than doesn't happen.
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Post by snow on Feb 12, 2015 12:37:42 GMT -5
I think a lot of people get married because they think their partner of choice has something to offer them. The ones that last probably enter a marriage with something to offer instead of expecting to receive something. That way they don't get disappointed if they don't get what they were looking for? There are some statistics that show divorce rates higher in the Bible Belt than in some other areas of the US.
Analysis as to why may be that people don't allow sex before marriage in the more fundamental Christian South therefore they marry younger.
Younger marriages have to give up more advanced education, thus lower paying jobs creating more economic problems.I'm sure that can contribute to higher divorce rates when a majority are marrying in their teens or early 20's. But as Rational points out 'not allowed' is not necessarily 'what is'. I do think that they marry younger and it's the lower education that might contribute more because of financial issues? Also, there are a lot of quiver full couples out there right now, that are having as many children as possible. That of course creates a strain on finances. I think the rule that you have to marry and not live common law might contribute to it also. Some couples just are not compatible but have no way of knowing that until they've lived with someone for awhile.
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Post by xna on Feb 12, 2015 15:16:59 GMT -5
Like any data input it is only as good as the person entering it. If you tourcher the data long enough, it will confess to just about anything.
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Post by rational on Feb 12, 2015 15:49:57 GMT -5
Like any data input it is only as good as the person entering it. If you tourcher the data long enough, it will confess to just about anything. :-X Is it legal to waterboard data?
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Post by xna on Feb 12, 2015 16:01:31 GMT -5
If you tourcher the data long enough, it will confess to just about anything. Is it legal to waterboard data? Yes, only one Data, has rights. Wiki say; "Data is waterproof and can perform tasks underwater without the need to surface"
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Post by dmmichgood on Feb 12, 2015 19:33:15 GMT -5
Analysis as to why may be that people don't allow sex before marriage in the more fundamental Christian South therefore they marry younger. Don't allow is different than doesn't happen. True!
But if a pregnancy results often the old equivalent of a "shot gun" wedding occurs!
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Post by xna on Feb 15, 2015 19:50:13 GMT -5
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Post by xna on Feb 17, 2015 17:59:06 GMT -5
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Post by dmmichgood on Feb 17, 2015 19:58:13 GMT -5
Thanks! I love quizzes
I got 88% also.
I thought it was fairly simple accept I missed the one "Which of these religious groups traditionally teaches that salvation comes through faith alone?" & 3 on Eastern religions.
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Post by snow on Feb 17, 2015 20:08:34 GMT -5
I got 84%. So that proves I'm not smarter than an atheist!!
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Post by snow on Feb 17, 2015 20:10:24 GMT -5
Yes I missed the by faith alone one and the US supreme court ruling
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