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Post by BobWilliston on Jul 26, 2013 1:43:25 GMT -5
Peter Mousseau i knew him before he went in the work , troubled little man , I was going home passing through Quebec years ago and stopped in Richmond QC for convention and met Peter there . What is his story now ?By the way is there a convention in Quebec now ? I remember meeting a nice french man at Richmond's convention , forgot his name he was having a terrible time with the workers Yes, there still is convention at Richmond. I used to live in Quebec (city). And I do know of a young man who was having a bad time with the workers.
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Post by BobWilliston on Jul 26, 2013 1:55:25 GMT -5
Wonder what these guys are looking for at conventions or expect from conventions ,considering that all the conventions and meetings they have been to before and didnt help them changing their ways do you think prison will do better than God ? Very many people will disagree with me, but being religious/professing does nothing to change the sexuality a person is hardwired with. Many people will also disagree with me on this too. Real Christians should believe that these offenders can have salvation. They are what they are (no real fault of their own, in fact), and they are under supervision of people who have the authority to keep him from hurting others. Unless we want vengeance of them, it is a Christian responsibility to pray for their souls -- and do nothing to dissuade them from finding their salvation. This is another reason why they need to be turned over to the authorities when they offend. The authorities can fulfill their responsibilities, and Christians can fulfill theirs. I should add that I do expect there are an awful lot of Christians who would find that VERY difficult.
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Post by BobWilliston on Jul 26, 2013 2:03:11 GMT -5
Well well well , I had a friend professing years ago , a very nice quy , he went out with a nice professing girl from a professing family with meeting in their home , so my nice friend happened to surrender to his flesh with the nice professing girl friend and bla bla bla some worker heard about it and it became hell on earth for my good friend , no place for him anywhere no pardon for him either no godly love nor kindness at convention he was to be cast out for his sins , I was upset very upset with the workers and the good professing people , I undestood then that only the workers have the key to pardon and they use it for who they judge worthy , of course workers today are different than before ..... This is not new at all. In a meeting I used to go to, the workers had one guy arrested and put in jail for his behavior with a young lady. According to the workers he had committed two "unthinkables" and we were ordered not to speak to him. Ironically, there were two other couples in the meeting, one of them had committed a greater degree of one of the first guy's offences, and the other couple had committed an even greater degree of the other offence. Yet they were welcomed and treated equally with everyone else in the meeting.
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Post by gem2 on Jul 26, 2013 6:34:26 GMT -5
thanks faune for pointing that out to me
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Post by gem2 on Jul 26, 2013 13:29:06 GMT -5
just curious-does anyone know how much jail time Peter received for his convictions?
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Post by faune on Jul 26, 2013 13:29:45 GMT -5
thanks faune for pointing that out to me Gem2 ~ Do you mean my last response to Marie earlier? I remember all of these workers referenced in her post and feel it's a real shame they weren't booted out of the work and faith altogether for the crime of CSA? All you have to do to see the Christian perspective on this issue in the Bible is to read I Corinthians 5 to see how Paul felt about it within the Corinthians Church. His opening paragraph brings out that even the pagans would be shocked and not tolerate what they were allowing within their midst as Christians. If there was ever a crime that merited ex-communication from the faith, it's CSA or similar acts of abuse towards adult members or co-workers within the fellowship! Just my thoughts on this matter. In say this, I realize that people who commit such horrendous acts are sick individuals and need professional help, but they don't need to be around innocent children considering their past history of being untrustworthy. There is definitely a need to be proactive to avoid others getting hurt by the same sexual offenders. What is equally disgusting are overseers over the flock who take advantage of their co-workers under them and members within the faith, while feigning concern for their welfare? What Leslie White did in the past as an overseer was truly dispicable and I feel for the sister worker who was one of his victims. I wonder how many there were in the past who have experienced the same abuse within the work and were cautioned to keep silent about it for fear of ex-communication or their reputation being smeared? www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=1%20Corinthians%205&version=NIV;KJV;AMP
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Post by gem2 on Jul 26, 2013 13:34:39 GMT -5
faune-the response u did 12 hours ago.... I am not sure how to do the quote "thing" yet. the one with Marie
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Post by gem2 on Jul 26, 2013 13:36:38 GMT -5
It makes me sick to my stomach to think that of them being allowed on convention grounds etc....
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Post by faune on Jul 26, 2013 13:53:26 GMT -5
faune-the response u did 12 hours ago.... I am not sure how to do the quote "thing" yet. the one with Marie Gem2 ~ I figured the same, as I share her feelings regarding these convicted pedophiles being allowed on convention grounds and even in meeting where kids are present. Unfortunately, the shock element of these crimes doesn't seem enough to warrant more proactive measures to protect the flock from future incidents of abuse? These people are very sick individuals and need professional help and also to be held accountable for their crimes against children, which can only come about by reporting them to the proper authorities for corrective actions, IMO.
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Post by BobWilliston on Jul 26, 2013 23:34:44 GMT -5
So if this was the man's father's wife -- was she the man's mother or the man's step-mother? And if it was his step-mother, what became of his mother? Have the workers checked that out?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 27, 2013 19:33:56 GMT -5
The safety of our children is more important than the rights of 2 men to go to convention. Special meetings don't bother me. But these convention grounds on farms are ideal setups for abuse.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 27, 2013 19:34:51 GMT -5
Barry Barkley is going to have to say and do more to protect the children at Freedom and Altamont.
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Post by gem2 on Jul 27, 2013 19:41:37 GMT -5
I would certainly hope that Darren would not be allowed at Freedom
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Post by rational on Jul 28, 2013 1:10:28 GMT -5
faune-the response u did 12 hours ago....:) I am not sure how to do the quote "thing" yet. the one with Marie Gem2 ~ I figured the same, as I share her feelings regarding these convicted pedophiles being allowed on convention grounds and even in meeting where kids are present. Have either of these people been diagnosed as pedophiles?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 28, 2013 18:22:36 GMT -5
Rat, why do they need a dx? One likes little boys and the other likes little girls. Where have you gotten all your info from. Do you know this men? Did you know their parents? I have know both their parent and these men there since I was a child.
Do you know how many counts Peter has against him. Maybe you should look it up and then decide if he needs a dx!!!!
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Post by rational on Jul 28, 2013 22:50:45 GMT -5
Rat, why do they need a dx? One likes little boys and the other likes little girls. Where have you gotten all your info from. Do you know this men? Did you know their parents? I have know both their parent and these men there since I was a child. Define little. It certainly sounds like you are more familiar with these people than I am but that does not make them pedophiles. Knowing the little I do, all from reading what is publicly available, it seems like there is no doubt they suffer from some sort of paraphilia but does anyone know which one? The number of counts against a person has nothing to do with the the diagnosis of any disease a person may have. If you are going to label them as having a specific disease they certainly do need a diagnosis or else the label is as meaningless as saying they were suffering from maschalagnia!
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Post by Gene on Jul 29, 2013 5:15:33 GMT -5
The number of counts against a person has nothing to do with the the diagnosis of any disease a person may have. If you are going to label them as having a specific disease they certainly do need a diagnosis or else the label is as meaningless as saying they were suffering from maschalagnia! That would be a pity.
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Post by matisse on Jul 29, 2013 18:04:52 GMT -5
The number of counts against a person has nothing to do with the the diagnosis of any disease a person may have. If you are going to label them as having a specific disease they certainly do need a diagnosis or else the label is as meaningless as saying they were suffering from maschalagnia! That would be a pity. The pits, for sure.
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Post by CherieKropp on Jul 29, 2013 18:52:07 GMT -5
From InstantCheckmate.com
Defendant Info: Name: Darren Jay Briggs DOB: May 6, 1973 Case Info: Source: NY Sex Offender Registry Category: Sex Offender Case Number: 33746DARBRI Case Type: Non-NYS Felony Sex Offense Offense Date: N/A
Defendant Info: Name: Peter William Mousseau DOB: February 15, 1970 Case Info: Source: MI Sex Offender Registry Category: Sex Offender Case Number: 20016465 Case Type: Criminal Sexual Conduct 4th Degree (Multiple Variables) Offense Date: N/A
Defendant Info: Name: Peter Mousseau DOB: February 15, 1970 Case Info: Source: MI Dept of Corrections (Web) Category: Criminal/traffic Case Number: 767220 Case Type: [Prison active offense]:CSC - Assault With Intent to Commit Sexual Penetration[Probation inactive offense]:Criminal Sexual Conduct, 4th Deg (Multiple Variables) Offense Date: N/A
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Post by gem2 on Jul 29, 2013 20:44:24 GMT -5
sickening
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Post by sharingtheriches on Jul 30, 2013 10:59:08 GMT -5
Without indicating why? Are you serious? Being locked up for molesting children is ENOUGH reasons they shouldn't be allowed around children. Especially given that there are lots of places on the grounds that aren't supervised such as walking trails. No, Rational, I cannot answer the last sentence. But you make it out like Messrs Briggs and Mousseau are as important than the children they molested. Rational, I find your responses to be plain disgusting. People who are silent to CSA are aiding such evil behavior. Rational, I know you are a better person than your posts indicate on this thread. Letters were written warning people about these 2 men and it is obvious that they have been on convention grounds since leaving Michigan. Barry Barkley needs to make sure these 2 don't get on convention grounds and molest more children. Child molestation is a horrible crime. If these 2 men are caught on the grounds, someone should physically remove them if needed. Trying to make pedophiles look like innocent men is SICK. SICK. SICK. If the two have parole directions in that they arenot allowed to be within a set number of feet/yards to where children are likely to be...then by all means should they show up on conv. grounds whoever discovers that should call the police immediately and have them come and remove them. But of course, the workers will not want it handled like that....they're likely to ask them to leave themselves and may or may not allow someone to notify the police that they've broken the terms of their parole or post prison agreements...
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Post by jhjmr on Aug 8, 2013 16:51:04 GMT -5
Peter received 10 yrs. Type in his name on the internet and you will see a picture of him, his charges and where he is at with a picture of the prison. Both of these guys were at convention in NY while waiting trials and Barry wasn't concerned. Many people didn't know one thing about these two guys as far as the crime they were being charged with and they waltzed the convention grounds smiling gleefully. If the convention and the guidance they were suppose to be getting by being at the convention had been working for them, they would not have been charged with CSA. So, confess your sins and leave it up to the all mighty, but don't pretend you must be at the convention, around children, to receive guidance. The presence of a CSA convicted criminal would be like trusting a rattlesnake in the grass and hoping he doesn't strike. You don't know so therefore you are not there to see. There are consequences for actions and if someone doesn't trust a CSA guilty person, don't expect them to change their mind so that person can roam freely. There acceptance is their own fault. No one else.
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Post by sharingtheriches on Aug 21, 2013 10:30:51 GMT -5
Peter received 10 yrs. Type in his name on the internet and you will see a picture of him, his charges and where he is at with a picture of the prison. Both of these guys were at convention in NY while waiting trials and Barry wasn't concerned. Many people didn't know one thing about these two guys as far as the crime they were being charged with and they waltzed the convention grounds smiling gleefully. If the convention and the guidance they were suppose to be getting by being at the convention had been working for them, they would not have been charged with CSA. So, confess your sins and leave it up to the all mighty, but don't pretend you must be at the convention, around children, to receive guidance. The presence of a CSA convicted criminal would be like trusting a rattlesnake in the grass and hoping he doesn't strike. You don't know so therefore you are not there to see. There are consequences for actions and if someone doesn't trust a CSA guilty person, don't expect them to change their mind so that person can roam freely. There acceptance is their own fault. No one else. Are they not obligated to attent counseling while in prison and ofter after paroling out of prison? As Rat contends, perhaps some of the CSA perps found in the worker/friend arena are not perpetual CSA perps. And yes, I know that does nothing for the victims they've used up to that point. We have to face that enforced celibacy just doesn't work for some men...and maybe women....they lose control etc. and yes, they learn quickly that the children are the most vulnerable and easiest to control. A learned behavior not one they have from birth or childhood experiences?
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Post by jhjmr on Aug 23, 2013 20:05:34 GMT -5
No one is enforcing celibacy. It is a decision that a worker makes when they ask to go into the work. Now, if you feel a need to lose control, no one is making you stay in the work. It is the thrill of the force that most CSA perps enjoy. And being in peoples homes with full respect and control, how convenient to fulfill your sick desire. And, if it wasn't enjoyed and you did it once, you sure would get out of the work. You would not just keep going to unsuspected homes to prey on their children. And it is a desired behavior. That is what is learned from abuses a child. And when it is a man abusing a boy, it is a problem at birth. That is not a learned behavior. And, they know they like boys long before they abuse one. It is the convenience they get in peoples houses that trust them. PM knew it was wrong and just kept being moved to another area and just kept abusing. They also know how the abuse is handled, and know that the police isn't going to be called. They don't need counseling to know that what they do is wrong, they need a stiff enough sentence, that they think twice before doing it again. Counseling does not correct a sick mind.
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Post by rational on Aug 26, 2013 7:56:41 GMT -5
We have to face that enforced celibacy just doesn't work for some men...and maybe women....they lose control etc. Celibacy is not the cause of child sexual abuse any more than celibacy is the cause of rape. Research shows that hormone levels actually fall after a period of celibacy.This is not a learned behavior. Their psychiatric disorder makes them attracted to young victims. While some may be diagnosed as pedophiles the diagnosis of most would be more accurately classified hebephilia or ephebophilia.Are you certain of this?
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Post by rational on Aug 26, 2013 8:09:26 GMT -5
No one is enforcing celibacy. It is a decision that a worker makes when they ask to go into the work. Now, if you feel a need to lose control, no one is making you stay in the work. It is the thrill of the force that most CSA perps enjoy. I think this is a rather simplistic answer. There are multiple reasons why an adult may be attracted to children. Celibacy is probably not one of the reasons.I fail to see the logic here. Are you implying that people are in the work as a way to have access to children?You seem to be ignoring the fact that most professionals consider this to be a disorder and not a learned behavior.This is not supported by any data. There is no connection between being a homosexual and child abuse.It is possible that PM did not consider what he was doing to be wrong. Child abuse is frequently rationalized by the criminal. Actually, they probably do need counseling to see the damage they may be causing as well as to workout and correct the underlying causes of their disorder. Criminals who have received counseling have a much greater positive outcome than those who do not.In some cases it does.
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Post by sunshine on Dec 6, 2013 20:41:52 GMT -5
I wish I had known about PM back in 2010 when we sat in the next row from him at Altamont. I have young children and no one knew anything except that he wasn't in the work anymore. And even worse we had DB over to our house for the day. He wanted to try to sell us herbalife stuff. If I had been warned I would never of had him over and around my children.I feel like the workers should have made everyone aware of their criminal background.It makes me angry .
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Post by sharingtheriches on Dec 7, 2013 12:18:11 GMT -5
Without indicating why? Are you serious? Being locked up for molesting children is ENOUGH reasons they shouldn't be allowed around children. Especially given that there are lots of places on the grounds that aren't supervised such as walking trails. No, Rational, I cannot answer the last sentence. But you make it out like Messrs Briggs and Mousseau are as important than the children they molested. Rational, I find your responses to be plain disgusting. People who are silent to CSA are aiding such evil behavior. Rational, I know you are a better person than your posts indicate on this thread. Letters were written warning people about these 2 men and it is obvious that they have been on convention grounds since leaving Michigan. Barry Barkley needs to make sure these 2 don't get on convention grounds and molest more children. Child molestation is a horrible crime. If these 2 men are caught on the grounds, someone should physically remove them if needed. Trying to make pedophiles look like innocent men is SICK. SICK. SICK. Wouldn't both of them have to register as sexual offenders wherever they lived? And do they also not have to be careful of being where children are? Isn't this not part of the law within the US in regards to someone who has been convicted as a sexual offender?
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