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Post by What Hat on May 2, 2012 17:34:58 GMT -5
Here is one point against the 2x2 name. It's virtually un-Googl-able. Is it 2x2, 2 x 2, two by two, two by twos, two by two's, two-by-twos, two-by-two's, 2x2s, 2 x 2s, two x twos, two x 2, etc.
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Post by Greg on May 2, 2012 17:38:04 GMT -5
Here is one point against the 2x2 name. It's virtually un-Googl-able. Is it 2x2, 2 x 2, two by two, two by twos, two by two's, two-by-twos, two-by-two's, 2x2s, 2 x 2s, two x twos, two x 2, etc. On Yahoo! 2x2SafeSearch On.OptionsAdvanced Search Preferences -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Advertising Programs About This Page Search Direct..21,100,000 resultsWebImagesVideoShoppingBlogsMoreWeb Images Video News Local Shopping Recipes Sports Finance Movies OMG! Apps Blogs DirectoryFILTER BY TIME Anytime Past day Past week Past month. Also try:2x2 shinobuden,2x2 rubik's cube,2x2 matrix,more....Search results2 x 2 Reading List | Texas Library Association The 2X2 Reading List is a project of the Children’s Round Table, a unit of the Texas Library Association. txla.org/groups/2x2 - Cached (First)The church with no name (a.k.a. cooneyites, two by twos, go ... He taught that it might be possible for 2X2 members to travel to other planets and act as saviors of other civilizations. He identified his group with the remnant of ... www.religioustolerance.org/chr_2x2.htm - Cached (Second)
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Post by What Hat on May 2, 2012 19:31:05 GMT -5
Here is one point against the 2x2 name. It's virtually un-Googl-able. Is it 2x2, 2 x 2, two by two, two by twos, two by two's, two-by-twos, two-by-two's, 2x2s, 2 x 2s, two x twos, two x 2, etc. On Yahoo! 2x2SafeSearch On.OptionsAdvanced Search Preferences -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Advertising Programs About This Page Search Direct..21,100,000 resultsWebImagesVideoShoppingBlogsMoreWeb Images Video News Local Shopping Recipes Sports Finance Movies OMG! Apps Blogs DirectoryFILTER BY TIME Anytime Past day Past week Past month. Also try:2x2 shinobuden,2x2 rubik's cube,2x2 matrix,more....Search results2 x 2 Reading List | Texas Library Association The 2X2 Reading List is a project of the Children’s Round Table, a unit of the Texas Library Association. txla.org/groups/2x2 - Cached (First)The church with no name (a.k.a. cooneyites, two by twos, go ... He taught that it might be possible for 2X2 members to travel to other planets and act as saviors of other civilizations. He identified his group with the remnant of ... www.religioustolerance.org/chr_2x2.htm - Cached (Second)My point is that no one particular term gets you everything.
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Post by Greg on May 2, 2012 19:55:59 GMT -5
On Yahoo! 2x2SafeSearch On.OptionsAdvanced Search Preferences -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Advertising Programs About This Page Search Direct..21,100,000 resultsWebImagesVideoShoppingBlogsMoreWeb Images Video News Local Shopping Recipes Sports Finance Movies OMG! Apps Blogs DirectoryFILTER BY TIME Anytime Past day Past week Past month. Also try:2x2 shinobuden,2x2 rubik's cube,2x2 matrix,more....Search results2 x 2 Reading List | Texas Library Association The 2X2 Reading List is a project of the Children’s Round Table, a unit of the Texas Library Association. txla.org/groups/2x2 - Cached (First)The church with no name (a.k.a. cooneyites, two by twos, go ... He taught that it might be possible for 2X2 members to travel to other planets and act as saviors of other civilizations. He identified his group with the remnant of ... www.religioustolerance.org/chr_2x2.htm - Cached (Second)My point is that no one particular term gets you everything. I see. Just an aside, that website appears to need some updating and/or correcting.
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Post by What Hat on May 2, 2012 20:21:05 GMT -5
My point is that no one particular term gets you everything. I see. Just an aside, that website appears to need some updating and/or correcting. And you get all kinds of extraneous information about wood and the like. Perhaps we could come up with a new and improved name, and get all the various sites to switch to that name. I'm gonna suggest "zxcvbn church". If you type that name in quotes, you get no hits, as of this moment. And if you leave off the quotes, I'm sure all the references to the church would bubble right to the top. On top of this, zxcvbn is very easy to type. Try it for yourself and see!
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Post by dmmichgood on May 2, 2012 20:35:31 GMT -5
Here is one point against the 2x2 name. It's virtually un-Googl-able. Is it 2x2, 2 x 2, two by two, two by twos, two by two's, two-by-twos, two-by-two's, 2x2s, 2 x 2s, two x twos, two x 2, etc. I originally found the whole site by just going to: "The Truth". 'course I realize that would be offensive to many.
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Post by CherieKropp on Jun 17, 2012 13:32:35 GMT -5
Sacredotal: Have you heard back from Michael Largo yet?
I believe he was to provide you with his sources where WmI used or instructed the use of the term "Two by Twos".
Just checkin'!
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Post by snow on Jun 17, 2012 13:59:12 GMT -5
Well when I was reading about the Cathars, a gnostic group in France, I was surprised to see how similar their beliefs were to the 'friends'. At first I thought I had found the link. They went out 2x2, and had many other 2x2 characteristics. So you can maybe call yourselves Cathars II?
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Post by calleduntoliberty on Jun 17, 2012 15:14:01 GMT -5
I was surprised when on another thread, someone implied that I didn't profess because I referred to (the no name organization) as the 2x2s. I did that because that is how (the no name organization) is referred to most commonly on this board. Sigh. With my brothers in sisters in Christ who belong to (the no name organization) I refer to this fellowship as "The Truth". I'm wondering how you justify that to yourself, in light of these words of Jesus, "I am the way, and the truth, and the life." and your belief that this group is not the only truth and not only the truth.
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Post by sacerdotal on Jun 17, 2012 15:35:03 GMT -5
I was surprised when on another thread, someone implied that I didn't profess because I referred to (the no name organization) as the 2x2s. I did that because that is how (the no name organization) is referred to most commonly on this board. Sigh. With my brothers in sisters in Christ who belong to (the no name organization) I refer to this fellowship as "The Truth". I'm wondering how you justify that to yourself, in light of these words of Jesus, "I am the way, and the truth, and the life." and your belief that this group is not the only truth and not only the truth. Simple. The fellowship to which I belong, the so-called 2x2s, is just another man made fellowship on the earth, started by a fellow named William Irvine in the late 1800s. This is my fellowship of choice as I love the workers and the friends and the method of worship. I reject the notions that this is the only right way, and I reject the living witness doctrine that is taught that the workers are the only true preachers in the earth, the modern day apostles of the New Testament. Do you ask the same question of your Methodist or Baptist friends? In my area of the world, the fellowship is known as "The Truth", and so that is how I refer to it. In my mind, that in no way indicates equality with the Christ and nor should it. This is just another man made fellowship, but it is with the workers and the friends that I choose to have fellowship with. The Spirit is in the meetings and in the lives of the workers and the friends. Why should I choose to go elsewhere?
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Post by What Hat on Jun 19, 2012 13:31:27 GMT -5
Here is one point against the 2x2 name. It's virtually un-Googl-able. Is it 2x2, 2 x 2, two by two, two by twos, two by two's, two-by-twos, two-by-two's, 2x2s, 2 x 2s, two x twos, two x 2, etc. I originally found the whole site by just going to: "The Truth". 'course I realize that would be offensive to many. Every second "only way" church refers to either themselves or their doctrine as "Truth". Wikipedia has 324 articles with "the Truth" in their title. Many have nothing to do with religion. Anyway, not highly Google-able.
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Post by CherieKropp on Jun 19, 2012 13:37:10 GMT -5
I'm puzzled. Did you make this search recently? I just googled several of those terms and added the word "church" after it, and came up with several websites about 2x2 church... what wrote:
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Post by What Hat on Jun 19, 2012 13:39:04 GMT -5
I googled several of those terms and added the word "church" after it, and came up with several websites about 2x2 church... Every second "only way" church refers to either themselves or their doctrine as "Truth". And many others that were not. That's the problem. It's easier if you're looking for articles or sites whose primary subject is "The Truth church". But what if you wanted to find every passing reference to "The truth church" in articles about stew. Some of these articles might well be about a different "truth church" and throw off your research.
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Post by What Hat on Jun 19, 2012 13:46:01 GMT -5
I'm puzzled. Did you make this search recently? I just googled several of those terms and added the word "church" after it, and came up with several websites about 2x2 church... what wrote: Sure but how many sites did you miss? Try '2x2 church' and then try 'two by two church'. You'll get an entirely different list of sites.
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Post by CherieKropp on Jun 19, 2012 21:37:18 GMT -5
what wrote:
I noticed that nearly all the larger sites owned by exes were listed...
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Post by magpie on Nov 20, 2017 19:06:51 GMT -5
EIGHT PAGES!!! The supposed nameless sect has more registered and incorporated names throughout the World than Marrying Mandville had wives. Me? Ex Christian Assemblies of Australia (Reg'd by Bill Carroll 1930) now reg'd,"and incorporated" as Christian Conventions of Victoria,a Religious Denomination and (believe it or not) a (don't laugh ,but cry) CHARITY. "YES???" P.S. Remember if you are an honest person before God's Holy Spirit,you won't ever be able to say we are a "nameless" Church,will you?
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Post by magpie1 on Feb 11, 2019 20:54:25 GMT -5
I was surprised when on another thread, someone implied that I didn't profess because I referred to (the no name organization) as the 2x2s. I did that because that is how (the no name organization) is referred to most commonly on this board. Sigh. With my brothers in sisters in Christ who belong to (the no name organization) I refer to this fellowship as "The Truth". However, I have never thought of being labelled as being a "2x2" was offensive. If I get hit by a "2x4" then that is offensive, but not being called a 2x2. I actually like it. It's kind of catchy. And evidently William Irvine wasn't too offended by the phrase when he "resurrected God's true way". He initially called it- ready for this? - "the two by twos". He later instructed folks to tell everyone that we didn't have a name- and that concept evidently stuck. Here is the source, a snippet from a chapter on William Irvine from the book God's Lunatics by Michael Largo. IRVINE LEADER OF THE “CHURCH WITHOUT A NAME” Founders of new religions often have trouble deciding what to call their new faiths, as it was for Scottish minister William Irvine. At the turn of the twentieth century, Irvine was an articulate and convincing preacher who claimed the end of the world was going to happen in 1914. He borrowed from Jehovah’s Witnesses the concept that only 144,000 were going to be saved, but he went further, demanding absolute asceticism as the single most important requirement for salvation. More than thirty thousand gave away every possession and voluntarily became homeless. All that Irvine kept was his dog. At first he called his movement the “Two by Twos,” because pairs of his followers were sent about preaching and securing donations from dawn to dusk. Later he instructed them to say they belonged to the No Name Church, or the Church Without a Name. Largo, Michael (2010-06-17). God's Lunatics:Lost Souls, False Prophets, Martyred Saints, Murderous Cults, Demonic Nuns, and Other Victims of Man's Eternal Search for the Divine (Kindle Locations 3306-3314). Harper Collins, Inc.. Kindle Edition. PS- I have an issue with the Kindle version of the book, in that it has many references listed in the back- but no footnotes to point to the reference. And the entry on William Irvine had at least one obvious error and other things that I have never heard/read before- so until I can verify the source, I read what is written with skepticism. But, the book is very entertaining- I learned a lot about various Catholic saints, and it includes the history of Easter and Christmas- which is quite interesting. www.amazon.com/gp/product/0061732842/ref=s9_simh_gw_p14_d0_g14_i1?pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_s=center-2&pf_rd_r=1ZYD3TW793FW8D7JJKQA&pf_rd_t=101&pf_rd_p=470938631&pf_rd_i=507846
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Post by Dennis J on Feb 11, 2019 22:20:01 GMT -5
Not that what I express is of any influence, the reference perhaps best used is 2&2 Preachers, none can fault that even when shortened to 2&2. Never offended me, even when I was part of them.
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