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Post by BobWilliston on Sept 21, 2014 20:25:45 GMT -5
Any chance you'd vote for your state to separate from the other 49 ?? if it were a republican state yes...but its not it full of liberals so NO...about 1.5 to 1... You don't believe in a liberal republic?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 21, 2014 21:25:56 GMT -5
if it were a republican state yes...but its not it full of liberals so NO...about 1.5 to 1... You don't believe in a liberal republic? some would call our forefathers liberal i don't though so no i believe in a conservative republic. the conservative and liberal labels have so intertwined over the years its hard to describe exactly what i believe in in a few sentences.
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Post by BobWilliston on Sept 21, 2014 21:59:52 GMT -5
You don't believe in a liberal republic? some would call our forefathers liberal i don't though so no i believe in a conservative republic. the conservative and liberal labels have so intertwined over the years its hard to describe exactly what i believe in in a few sentences. It's hard to uphold the constitution when you consider yourself a conservative, isn't it.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 22, 2014 9:31:41 GMT -5
some would call our forefathers liberal i don't though so no i believe in a conservative republic. the conservative and liberal labels have so intertwined over the years its hard to describe exactly what i believe in in a few sentences. It's hard to uphold the constitution when you consider yourself a conservative, isn't it. not at all...
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Post by Deleted on Sept 22, 2014 10:14:39 GMT -5
So the referendum has been held; about 85% of eligible voters turned out and the motion for Scotland to separate was defeated 55 to 45% Consequently the leader of the SNP movement, who is also First Minister of the local government Alex Salmond has fallen on his claymore, he announced his intention not to be re-elected leader at a November party conference. His life long ambition was to oversee the separation of Scotland from the United Kingdom, and the result brought clear failure to all that, and such a referendum is unlikely to be repeated in a generation or lifetime. Meanwhile the London politicians have promised further powers be given to Scotland but want to reserve extra powers for the English people, although some of the political parties disagree on this. Therefore whether a long lasting peaceful solution will be achieved fast remains to be seen. Fortunately the feuding in Scotland has not led to blood shedding in physical violence, although some of the stuff that has been going on does not show the world a good picture of a progressive modern nation. Obviously there are factions of the 45% who lost the vote who cannot accept the situation, Huffington Post reports a petition to recount the votes or even re-run the ballot has collected 70000 signatures in one day, and the SNP is still defiant about forcing the London politicians to hurry up in delivering their promises. Interesting times. Speaking as a proud Scot.....or a mongrel Scot/Pole...............or Brit...............or.....(I won't go there!), I am delighted to have observed that in these latter days where the birth pangs are being felt everywhere, with wars and rumours of wars, nation rising against nation and kingdom against kingdom, Scotland chose to fulfill its role in Bible prophecy through the ballot box rather than through violence. At least (apart from a few ugly scenes) so far. There is an ugly, divisive spirit hanging over the nation and the odd word suggesting rebellion and unrest is starting to be banded about, at least on social media. I fear for my nation. Matt. 12:25 warned us too. "Every nation that is divided against itself is brought to desolation."
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Post by BobWilliston on Sept 22, 2014 11:17:43 GMT -5
So the referendum has been held; about 85% of eligible voters turned out and the motion for Scotland to separate was defeated 55 to 45% Consequently the leader of the SNP movement, who is also First Minister of the local government Alex Salmond has fallen on his claymore, he announced his intention not to be re-elected leader at a November party conference. His life long ambition was to oversee the separation of Scotland from the United Kingdom, and the result brought clear failure to all that, and such a referendum is unlikely to be repeated in a generation or lifetime. Meanwhile the London politicians have promised further powers be given to Scotland but want to reserve extra powers for the English people, although some of the political parties disagree on this. Therefore whether a long lasting peaceful solution will be achieved fast remains to be seen. Fortunately the feuding in Scotland has not led to blood shedding in physical violence, although some of the stuff that has been going on does not show the world a good picture of a progressive modern nation. Obviously there are factions of the 45% who lost the vote who cannot accept the situation, Huffington Post reports a petition to recount the votes or even re-run the ballot has collected 70000 signatures in one day, and the SNP is still defiant about forcing the London politicians to hurry up in delivering their promises. Interesting times. Speaking as a proud Scot.....or a mongrel Scot/Pole...............or Brit...............or.....(I won't go there!), I am delighted to have observed that in these latter days where the birth pangs are being felt everywhere, with wars and rumours of wars, nation rising against nation and kingdom against kingdom, Scotland chose to fulfill its role in Bible prophecy through the ballot box rather than through violence. At least (apart from a few ugly scenes) so far. There is an ugly, divisive spirit hanging over the nation and the odd word suggesting rebellion and unrest is starting to be banded about, at least on social media. I fear for my nation. Matt. 12:25 warned us too. "Every nation that is divided against itself is brought to desolation." Someone's prayers were answered.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 22, 2014 11:24:59 GMT -5
Speaking as a proud Scot.....or a mongrel Scot/Pole...............or Brit...............or.....(I won't go there!), I am delighted to have observed that in these latter days where the birth pangs are being felt everywhere, with wars and rumours of wars, nation rising against nation and kingdom against kingdom, Scotland chose to fulfill its role in Bible prophecy through the ballot box rather than through violence. At least (apart from a few ugly scenes) so far. There is an ugly, divisive spirit hanging over the nation and the odd word suggesting rebellion and unrest is starting to be banded about, at least on social media. I fear for my nation. Matt. 12:25 warned us too. "Every nation that is divided against itself is brought to desolation." Someone's prayers were answered. Methinks the Devil's prayers?
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Post by BobWilliston on Sept 22, 2014 11:32:44 GMT -5
Someone's prayers were answered. Methinks the Devil's prayers? That bad, huh? Well, probably worse could have happened.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 22, 2014 11:39:17 GMT -5
Methinks the Devil's prayers? That bad, huh? Well, probably worse could have happened. Maybe it's just around the corner Bob? I hope not!
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Post by BobWilliston on Sept 22, 2014 17:34:49 GMT -5
That bad, huh? Well, probably worse could have happened. Maybe it's just around the corner Bob? I hope not! What's your worry? I'd love to visit Scotland -- my grandmother's family is from Aberdeen.
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Post by dmmichgood on Sept 22, 2014 18:10:28 GMT -5
It's Difficult to understand how anyone could be delighted to see wars and rumors of wars, -nation rising against nation and kingdom against kingdom.
Seems there are many Christians that want to believe that Matt. 12:25 is being fulfilled.
The danger in that kind of thinking is that some people will not try to stop it and work towards peace but actively attempt to make it Matt. 12:25 happen.
History is full of the same kind of conditions that we see in the world today. However, there are always some in each generation who seem to believe they are so important that theirs will be the generation to be in the end times.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 23, 2014 3:45:23 GMT -5
Matt. 12:25 is about kingdoms and houses being divided. A statement made by Jesus when he was accused of being Satan when he cast out devils.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 10, 2016 8:34:26 GMT -5
Whatever became of little paddy and former teenager? Any information on them, Ram?
I believe that former teenager lived in Ireland, if my memory serves me correctly.
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Post by xna on Jan 11, 2016 10:25:19 GMT -5
Scotland's great gift to mankind.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 13, 2016 19:47:23 GMT -5
Whatever became of little paddy and former teenager? Any information on them, Ram? I believe that former teenager lived in Ireland, if my memory serves me correctly. I have been away for a long time myself and both seem to disappeared during my absence. I'm afraid I don't know the identity of either, so can't be much help. All things come and go. I suppose that applies to TMBers as well?
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Post by BobWilliston on Jan 13, 2016 22:43:04 GMT -5
Did you or budgie get this first hand? reliable witnesses? Do you know that they know the truth? if yes, then out with it! Firstly, this matter is at a very delicate stage. I do know that statements have been made by credible sources that an allegation of csa has been made against a worker who has admitted the allegation. As a result the worker has been put out of the work. This matter is very recent and will require time to resolve. What is there to resolve?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 14, 2016 5:17:32 GMT -5
Firstly, this matter is at a very delicate stage. I do know that statements have been made by credible sources that an allegation of csa has been made against a worker who has admitted the allegation. As a result the worker has been put out of the work. This matter is very recent and will require time to resolve. What is there to resolve? I don't know how I am linked the the remarks quoted?
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Post by BobWilliston on Jan 14, 2016 17:08:36 GMT -5
What is there to resolve? I don't know how I am linked the the remarks quoted? Not everyone knows how to handle quotes when they quote them.
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