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Post by eyedeetentee on Apr 7, 2011 12:21:41 GMT -5
Have a seat on the couch.
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Post by someguy on Apr 7, 2011 15:51:05 GMT -5
Hardly a new thing Nate. This has been the standard since before you were a worker. Seriously, how do you think people can take you seriously or think of every joining up when you deny something as obvious as this. There have been varying stages of this for years. Oh and the west coast is by far the most strict with some of the rules. They may not be as legalistic, but if you are divorced and remarried you may not attend any meetings period until you leave your spouce. That is the new edict being enforced by Walter in BC. So please, don't plead ignorance. If someone asks serious questions about meetings and the system, it behooves you to be honest at the very least. If one of the friends are divorced and remarried on the West coast, they can attend meetings.....however, they have to keep silent in the meeting. I know of several examples of individuals who were both professing before and were informed that they are not welcome in meeting as they both knew better. They can't attend any meeting until they separate.
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Post by eyedeetentee on Apr 7, 2011 15:53:28 GMT -5
Can't have sinners commingling with non-sinners.
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Post by peacefulheart on Apr 7, 2011 16:44:11 GMT -5
~~ This is a NEW thing in the West coast of USA also. This has to be revelation from God nobody can't FORCE anyone to believe it. If God hasn't revealed His Truth and Way to people they are NOT going to see or understand it.Hardly a new thing Nate. This has been the standard since before you were a worker. Seriously, how do you think people can take you seriously or think of every joining up when you deny something as obvious as this. There have been varying stages of this for years. Oh and the west coast is by far the most strict with some of the rules. They may not be as legalistic, but if you are divorced and remarried you may not attend any meetings period until you leave your spouce. That is the new edict being enforced by Walter in BC. So please, don't plead ignorance. If someone asks serious questions about meetings and the system, it behooves you to be honest at the very least. If you are on the West coast, if you are divorced and remarried.....you can attend meetings, however; you cannot take part, you must remain silent in the meeting.
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Post by peacefulheart on Apr 7, 2011 16:51:01 GMT -5
I know of several examples of individuals who were both professing before and were informed that they are not welcome in meeting as they both knew better. They can't attend any meeting until they separate. Sorry, somehow I posted this ......."If one of the friends are divorced and remarried on the West coast, they can attend meetings.....however, they have to keep silent in the meeting." within someguys post, I reposted it outside his post. hopefully it works this time.
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Post by eyedeetentee on Apr 8, 2011 21:57:38 GMT -5
Funny how people pick and choose their commandments.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 9, 2011 7:17:16 GMT -5
~~ In the west coast If you remarried while your husband/wife is Still ALIVE... (Adultery)... they are allowing to attend gospel meetings, conventions, special meetings, and Sunday morning meetings but can't take parts in testimony or the emblems.
I don't think asking adultery NOT taken parts is a good a way to punish them. The workers should encourage them to GET right with God and go to Him and ask forgiveness.... That's between them and God. The workers should point out the adultery to the scriptures and tell them it is NOT according to the will of God and they are treading on a very dangerous ground if they don't REPENT from it..... and let it be between them and God. Nathan9 -- Do you think that the workers should be in the business of 'punishment' at all --- Or do you think that 'forgiveness/non-forgiveness' is a responsibility that God has placed on their shoulders more than ordinary people for some reason?
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NEVER JUDGE ANOTHER!!! Remember the prophet Hosea? (Hosea 1:2)
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Post by Shosho on Apr 9, 2011 19:13:03 GMT -5
Nathan, There is NO PURE 'CHURCH' (though frankly I detest the word since it smacks of religious christianity, something which NEVER was started by Yeshua the Jew, who came to the Jews), EXCEPT for the ONE CHURCH OF THE ONE G-D, WHICH HE ALONE KNOWS. If left to me, I would say, EXCEPT FOR THE FAMILY OF THE ONE G-D, WHICH ARE SCATTERED THROUGHOUT THE EARTH, COLLECTED ONLY BY THE SPIRIT OF HOLINESS, which IS the CREATOR, G-D. Many of the things you quote are against the teachings of Yeshua, as are many of the writings ALLEGEDLY done by Shaul (who in theory was changed to a 'chrisitian called Paul, if someone can explain THAT one).
Wouldn't it be wonderful if people ONLY regarded the teachings of Yeshua? If they were able to see above their feeble attempts at 'religion' and sought to KNOW G-D as INDIVIDUALS?!?! G-D WHO DOES NOT CHANGE, did not want the people to have an earthly king in the Tanakh, because HE/SHE ALONE IS KING. Any person or persons 'having power' over one another, become corrupted. G-D DOES NOT NEED THE HELP OF HUMANS TO CHASTISE and CORRECT. Why oh why would you refute the POWER of the INDWELLING SPIRIT to believe that guidance and direction, chastisement and correction is a function rightfully usurped by HUMANS??? EVEN Y'SHUA said that HE didn't come to judge!!! And there was NEVER a man on earth who was better able to pass judgement, according to all that is written about him... You tell me one PERSON who is able to offer righteous judgment, when G-D ALONE IS THE RIGHTEOUS JUDGE??? Tell me, since when is a HUMAN BEING able to convict another of his/her sin, when the SPIRIT OF HOLINESS has not? What you wrote is EXACTLY what is wrong with the group of people you spend your life trying to defend, legitimize and make into something they're not... direct descendants from Yeshua, in a religion which HE NEVER STARTED! BTW... ARE YOU EVEN A MEMBER OF THIS GROUP??? Or are you trying to find righteousness in defending them from 'The Outside'? FORGET RELIGION. Forget the fables of man, the insane ideas taught as doctrines, forget the forms and the histories you seem to be so taken up with. LOOK ABOVE ALL OF THIS GARBAGE, AND SEEK THE CREATOR OF ALL THINGS, MELEKH HA OLAM, KING OF ALL THE WORLD. You will have an ENTIRELY DIFFERENT PERSPECTIVE I'm sure!!! Wishing you to know the TRUE PEACE, OF ONE LOVE. THE LOVE THAT IS G-D. THE LOVE WHICH IS UNLIMITED and FREE TO THE ENTIRE CREATION!!!! SHALOM, Shosho
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