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Post by irvinegrey on Aug 5, 2010 7:37:10 GMT -5
‘I am rather confused by this title 'Leaving the Work'. Throughout the New Testament we see the Lord Jesus Christ commissioning the Apostles including Paul followed by others such as Timothy becoming fellow labourers.
What we do not find in the New Testament are these apostles or fellow workers being decommissioned. Surely there is something incompatible with 'leaving the work' and the initial call of God into the work except in extenuating circumstances?’
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Post by Alan Vandermyden on Aug 5, 2010 11:48:54 GMT -5
‘I am rather confused by this title 'Leaving the Work'. Throughout the New Testament we see the Lord Jesus Christ commissioning the Apostles including Paul followed by others such as Timothy becoming fellow labourers. What we do not find in the New Testament are these apostles or fellow workers being decommissioned. Surely there is something incompatible with 'leaving the work' and the initial call of God into the work except in extenuating circumstances?’ Irvine, You will likely find many varied and conflicting opinions on this. Some may view many workers' departure from the ministry as "extenuating circumstances," while others would of course challenge the validity of connecting workers with the N.T. apostles. For me, celibacy just was not going to work any longer. I did feel, when I began as a worker, that it would be for life, but I did not make a vow in that regard. It just came down to the fact that reality was not fitting my earlier views of it being a lifelong thing. I respect those who are able to honestly live their entire lives that way.
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Post by ronhall on Aug 5, 2010 17:07:31 GMT -5
who regressed back to the worker mode in a bossy, controlling way, giving long intimidating sermons, complaining about the decor or the meeting room, etc. This was very good insight to a behind the scenes situation. But is the part I bolded really your impression of worker mode? So sorry if that is your experience. Glad that you, and others, have responded positively to that 'thumbnail' account. I considered quite awhile before mentioning it because thankfully, it isn't something you often experience. Worker mode? Well, yes -- now that you made mention of it. How can a child not respond adversely to such an event and then not carry such an impression into later adulthood? You would know the verse about offending the little ones, the millstone and all. Jesse feels that we are all little ones in this regard as spiritual children. I agree but when the offense affects natural children who are defenseless, that event, residing deep in their memory often jades their ability to respond positively to similar events later on. Even though I wish it were otherwise, something in my inner consciousness automatically categorizes workers in a similar way others might view policemen. While I appreciate them and realize they have a necessary function, feeling entirely comfortable around them is not my portion.
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Post by Learning Patience on Aug 16, 2010 9:11:29 GMT -5
‘I am rather confused by this title 'Leaving the Work'. Throughout the New Testament we see the Lord Jesus Christ commissioning the Apostles including Paul followed by others such as Timothy becoming fellow labourers. What we do not find in the New Testament are these apostles or fellow workers being decommissioned. Surely there is something incompatible with 'leaving the work' and the initial call of God into the work except in extenuating circumstances?’ Hi Irvine. Where do you read that the calling is a lifetime calling? Is a person any less obedient to God's will if they follow his call to leave the work? Is obedience only recognized one way by some? I have faith that I was called into the ministry and I have faith that I was called to leave the ministry. My life was blessed 100 fold on both occasions.
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Post by Learning Patience on Aug 16, 2010 9:24:22 GMT -5
This post was very interesting Nathan9. I also feel very grateful for my time in the Work. I look back I know that the time and energy I gave, was a selfless act of service. I left with 200 in my pockets and not even clothes to wear as due to my stress, I was suffering from anorexia and I had lost so much weight that my worker clothes were no loner appropriate. Anyway, it's not easy to start again, but as you said, even a letter of thankfulness and appreciation is most valued. Money comes and goes, but broken values don't. It's sad to think of all the love one has given and that others would not even ackowledge it. I guess friends could also get too comfy to be on the receiving end of the support and care and don't realize the ex-workers are needy of support in every possible way. I have found a lot of help and support from my non-professing friends who admire what I have done with my life for the past while. To them is a new concept and so they have served and supported me more than any of the friends from Truth. Funny, isn't it? Sorry to hear about your experience. Your experience isn't much different then mine. Fortunately for me, there were some friends that were kinder then kind that took me in as I began attending college again. Kindness and love is incredibly therapeutic. One part of the issue is that many workers and friends look upon leaving the work as a shame or a lack of faith on that person's part. And of course, we as workers know that too. And I believe that we begin fighting against God- trying to will ourselves to continue in a service that He is calling us out of. It isn't a shame to leave the work. I admire your service in the work and I hate that you've had to experience the nonsense from some of the friends that so many of us have had to experience upon leaving the work. But, it is out of ignorance- I know- because I have judged myself just as harshly for leaving the work- but it really is an ignorant, unhealthy thing to do. My opinion, anyway.
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Post by ts on Aug 18, 2010 12:21:23 GMT -5
This post was very interesting Nathan9. I also feel very grateful for my time in the Work. I look back I know that the time and energy I gave, was a selfless act of service. I left with 200 in my pockets and not even clothes to wear as due to my stress, I was suffering from anorexia and I had lost so much weight that my worker clothes were no loner appropriate. Anyway, it's not easy to start again, but as you said, even a letter of thankfulness and appreciation is most valued. Money comes and goes, but broken values don't. It's sad to think of all the love one has given and that others would not even ackowledge it. I guess friends could also get too comfy to be on the receiving end of the support and care and don't realize the ex-workers are needy of support in every possible way. I have found a lot of help and support from my non-professing friends who admire what I have done with my life for the past while. To them is a new concept and so they have served and supported me more than any of the friends from Truth. Funny, isn't it? Sorry to hear about your experience. Your experience isn't much different then mine. Fortunately for me, there were some friends that were kinder then kind that took me in as I began attending college again. Kindness and love is incredibly therapeutic. One part of the issue is that many workers and friends look upon leaving the work as a shame or a lack of faith on that person's part. And of course, we as workers know that too. And I believe that we begin fighting against God- trying to will ourselves to continue in a service that He is calling us out of. It isn't a shame to leave the work. I admire your service in the work and I hate that you've had to experience the nonsense from some of the friends that so many of us have had to experience upon leaving the work. But, it is out of ignorance- I know- because I have judged myself just as harshly for leaving the work- but it really is an ignorant, unhealthy thing to do. My opinion, anyway. I can relate to TWAGNER, here. I got some help and I am glad for it. I do not think that the friends understand the magnitude of leaving the work and that everyone's experience is different. Some just get on and do well. Others, like myself, struggle. Somehow in the process, if you do not recover within a certain amount of time, there is something wrong with you and you are no longer fit to support. It was also my "ungodly" family who took the brunt of my recovery from the work. The workers think that is just fine and are not even interested what their testimony looks like to my "outsider" family. Here I had been sloughing off their concerns for my future for years. They saw this day coming. "What if you can't make it? What about your education?" I told them that I trusted God. I fully trusted that if anything happened that my spiritual brothers would understand what to do and make sure I was taken care of. I was wrong and my unprofessing family was right. They did for me what the workers should have done. I made some rash decisions because I felt so completely unsupported. I was not even fit to make decisions in the real world. And I sure didn't need someone making them for me...I had already had years of that in the work. I just needed their trust and support until I could get my feet under me for as long as it took. I think that is what the Samaritan did for the poor man that was robbed and beaten. No, the workers left a very bad testimony with my family. They do not care how it looked for me to face them completely destitute and needy in every way. They did not care how vulnerable I was. The hundreds of people that I knew and loved did abandon me in the time of my greatest need. I am very disappointed and also know that the judgment for them will not be good. That is why we have parables like "the rich man and Lazarus." As far as "leaving the work" goes. I felt pretty bad for a few years because of leaving the work. But I realize that the truth does not change(just like we preached). The workers have admitted to being fallible. They are in as much need of the gospel as anyone. They are "the world" who needs the gospel preached to them. They need the truth. I expect they are as receptive to it as they claim "the world" is. Funny how they will hide behind their own imperfections when it suits them yet not listen to the message when it comes. "Giving freely" doesn't include giving money if you are talking about workers.
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Post by sharonw on Aug 18, 2010 21:46:32 GMT -5
there is a verse that people like to use(misuse) a lot. It is "cast out the beam from your own eye, then you will see clearly how to cast out the mote from another's eye." The sermon always goes, "if you are busy looking at your own self, you won't see the problems in your brother." Well, I think it means that we must cast the beam out of our eye and then turn to help our brother. [. . .] There is a point that the beam is out of there and we then have a responsibility to our brothers. I heartily agree, and I have spoken about this verse along these lines. I see it as a "recipe" for helping others. A few months ago or so, the reality of that verse came to me....that "mote" we notice in our brother's eye is only the reflection of the beam in ours. For example, if you ever have the opportunity to look at the reflection of yourself in a horse's eye, you will see yourself almost in entirety but very small....that's what gave me the revelation about the beam in my eye is actually reflected as a small mote in my brother's eye!
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Post by sharonw on Aug 18, 2010 21:50:26 GMT -5
My mother shared the experience of she and my father as elders in a meeting home many years before. Apparently they were vexed with an ex-worker in their meeting back then (and I sort of remember this as a boy) who regressed back to the worker mode in a bossy, controlling way, giving long intimidating sermons, complaining about the decor or the meeting room, etc. It was such a very difficult time for my folks that they eventually sold their home and moved to get relief of the situation. This certainly doesn't happen often, but the potential exists. So I just wanted to show the other side-of-the-coin from the perspective of an elder of the meeting where an ex-worker attends. The point is that our savior was meek and lowly of heart and whenever any of us becomes assertive beyond our place in the fellowship, we can become a stumbling block to our brethren. That isn't just admonition for ex-workers, but for all, including myself. Thanks, Ron - This brought to mind a similar situation in southern California, while I was still in the work. A recently-married couple, who had both been workers in another state, moved to the field where I was working (I was the younger companion). He in particular was very much still in the "worker" mode, and would speak at length, catching people's eye and exhorting all about how they should be doing things. This was very bothersome even to me as a worker - not that I wanted to be the "preachy" one, but I felt it was very out of place for anyone, as it was really "bossy," and not kindly. When I left the work, I became very aware of various (mostly older) men who had left the work - some were "preachy" in meetings, and some were genuinely humble, kindly men. Though I feel, like many have expressed to me about themselves, that there were things I could have done differently, I did choose certain of these men as examples of what I wanted to be. Reminded me of a sister worker who left the work and she really did want to get married...not sure what really was the real reason she left...but after she got married, she had the attitude that she and her husband were still "workers"...still spoke like a worker and even got him to speaking the same...was a bit comical...but it went on that way for years...but everyone else just fit around that and went on...most perhaps expected it to be that way, I'm not sure....
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Post by Alan Vandermyden on Aug 19, 2010 1:36:56 GMT -5
I heartily agree, and I have spoken about this verse along these lines. I see it as a "recipe" for helping others. A few months ago or so, the reality of that verse came to me....that "mote" we notice in our brother's eye is only the reflection of the beam in ours. For example, if you ever have the opportunity to look at the reflection of yourself in a horse's eye, you will see yourself almost in entirety but very small....that's what gave me the revelation about the beam in my eye is actually reflected as a small mote in my brother's eye! That's often the case, isn't it!
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Post by ts on Aug 19, 2010 11:00:55 GMT -5
Thanks, Ron - This brought to mind a similar situation in southern California, while I was still in the work. A recently-married couple, who had both been workers in another state, moved to the field where I was working (I was the younger companion). He in particular was very much still in the "worker" mode, and would speak at length, catching people's eye and exhorting all about how they should be doing things. This was very bothersome even to me as a worker - not that I wanted to be the "preachy" one, but I felt it was very out of place for anyone, as it was really "bossy," and not kindly. When I left the work, I became very aware of various (mostly older) men who had left the work - some were "preachy" in meetings, and some were genuinely humble, kindly men. Though I feel, like many have expressed to me about themselves, that there were things I could have done differently, I did choose certain of these men as examples of what I wanted to be. Reminded me of a sister worker who left the work and she really did want to get married...not sure what really was the real reason she left...but after she got married, she had the attitude that she and her husband were still "workers"...still spoke like a worker and even got him to speaking the same...was a bit comical...but it went on that way for years...but everyone else just fit around that and went on...most perhaps expected it to be that way, I'm not sure.... Then, when you think about it, the way the workers "speak like workers" is actually very comical. But no one has the nerve to say so. It is like the story "The Emperor's New Clothes". No one will tell them that they are sounding ridiculous in the real world with their preaching, lives and doctrine. The Work is like a subculture among the friends that they are glad to tuck away and keep secret from the rest of the world.
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Post by Alan Vandermyden on Aug 19, 2010 12:18:31 GMT -5
Reminded me of a sister worker who left the work and she really did want to get married...not sure what really was the real reason she left...but after she got married, she had the attitude that she and her husband were still "workers"...still spoke like a worker and even got him to speaking the same...was a bit comical...but it went on that way for years...but everyone else just fit around that and went on...most perhaps expected it to be that way, I'm not sure.... Then, when you think about it, the way the workers "speak like workers" is actually very comical. But no one has the nerve to say so. It is like the story "The Emperor's New Clothes". No one will tell them that they are sounding ridiculous in the real world with their preaching, lives and doctrine. The Work is like a subculture among the friends that they are glad to tuck away and keep secret from the rest of the world. This could prove to be an interesting way in which to analyze things . . . this isn't meant to be sarcastic, but I think T he Emperor's New Clothes makes a valid point about society in general. In some scholarly analysis, it's called "discourse" - the way things are discussed, what is even considered a valid point of discussion, who has the "authority" to "know" a certain subject. I find it helpful in all aspects of life - economic, political, religious, etc. - to try to look at things through other than the commonly accepted "lenses." We'll be surprised at what we learn! And it basically results in indicting us all (except the child?), as we realize that we've all contributed to "the talk."
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Post by ts on Aug 19, 2010 13:51:36 GMT -5
Well, I definitely do not give the workers, any of the leaders, anyway, credit for having the spirit of a child. It says that unless you do, you will not enter the kingdom of heaven. There is every bit of evidence that they are supporting the nude overseers walking around and no one has the nerve to say so. The very few who do get booted out of the work or the fellowship.
A survey would show that there are many childlike people who leave the work for conscience sake. I do not say that they have clarity on why the cannot make it in the work. Just like when child is abused at home, he doesn't know that it is abnormal. He simply loves and grows up with a warped definition of love. If he continues with that warped definition, his family and the next generation will also be dysfunctional. If he seeks help, he could put a stop to the dysfunctional cycle. The work has continued in a dysfunctional cycle for a few generations now. They have a warped definition of love and having the "spirit of a child". They are in a very serious and soul threatening situation for themselves and those they teach.
There is much evidence among the professing people on this message board of the hardness and cruelty that is so evidenced among the workers. The spirit of that hardness is what the friends are picking up on and living rather than the softness and tenderness of a child. Overseers have turned into bullies and they give their approval to the friends and workers who are unfeeling enough to emulate them. Those who are affected by bullying(child like people) are considered spiritually weak and are minimized.
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Post by Learning Patience on Aug 21, 2010 9:59:07 GMT -5
Well, I definitely do not give the workers, any of the leaders, anyway, credit for having the spirit of a child. It says that unless you do, you will not enter the kingdom of heaven. There is every bit of evidence that they are supporting the nude overseers walking around and no one has the nerve to say so. The very few who do get booted out of the work or the fellowship. A survey would show that there are many childlike people who leave the work for conscience sake. I do not say that they have clarity on why the cannot make it in the work. Just like when child is abused at home, he doesn't know that it is abnormal. He simply loves and grows up with a warped definition of love. If he continues with that warped definition, his family and the next generation will also be dysfunctional. If he seeks help, he could put a stop to the dysfunctional cycle. The work has continued in a dysfunctional cycle for a few generations now. They have a warped definition of love and having the "spirit of a child". They are in a very serious and soul threatening situation for themselves and those they teach. There is much evidence among the professing people on this message board of the hardness and cruelty that is so evidenced among the workers. The spirit of that hardness is what the friends are picking up on and living rather than the softness and tenderness of a child. Overseers have turned into bullies and they give their approval to the friends and workers who are unfeeling enough to emulate them. Those who are affected by bullying(child like people) are considered spiritually weak and are minimized. Well said.
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Post by shushy on Aug 21, 2010 12:44:25 GMT -5
Reading some of these posts. I try to imagine some of the leaders I know going in there to sort out the problems. Praying together in unity and enquiring of the Lord about the overseers and workers and the holy spirit revealing what should be happening. The shake down that is presently occuring seems to be increasing as time passes, shows the error, conflict of interest, exposing the lies, and the scum coming to the surface is disturbing but as grieiving as it will be for some ultimately it is good. Light is piercing the darkness and the darkness hopefully will be delt with. Bibilicallly and legally. Only God knows the end result. There has been too much pain, grief. Lives affected too long without recompence, apology or acknowledgement. Thankfully there seems to be a turning of the tide.
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Post by been there on Aug 25, 2010 12:31:45 GMT -5
I left the work years ago..married..my years there were..some good some awful..I left because of what I saw amongst workers..heard and experienced.....knew something wasn't quite right..so a whole bunch of things caused me to leave..but still kept on for many years now just recently with much study of the Bible..and listening to solid Bible teaching..... we must take/read scripture in context at all times..there are many others out there that don't..
yes leaving was a real experience..some folks never spoke to me again many remained cordial..now of course I'm off limits..one told me recently as I called..that what I now know and understand was simply 'false'..as for me I rejoice in my Lord and Saviour there is a resounding Thank-you in my heart for marvelous light and liberty that the Lord God by His precious Holy Spirit has drawn me into...for this I praise God..
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Post by daisycarlee on Sept 4, 2010 13:00:16 GMT -5
My decision to leave the work was made with a lot of soul searching. I have an illness that will be with me the rest of my life. I loved the work so very much and never ever wanted to leave. The workers and friends were so supportive of me continuing, but I felt like I was keeping others back from what they could do with having to accomodate my illness.
Leaving wrenched my heart out....... I began taking classes right away to get me back into a useful job and worked part-time while schooling. Friends let me live with them until I had a full-time position and could live on my own.
I remember one time going to a Gospel meeting and "hearing" God speak to my heart again, this was after a few months since I left the work.
When you leave, you don't know where you fit in..... Being in the work and that fellowship was so much a part of my life for almost 2 decades. I was single.....schooling, working, trying to get it all together and so very lonely. I was asked from time to time from the older brother in the state if I needed any financial help. Only one time did I say I did.
The workers in the field at that time were very supportive. The first time that I went to preps they met me in the yard and cried with me as I faced being back to a place I loved so much.
Did I mention that I LOVED the work?! ((SMILE)) The tears flow as I remember those days and those experiences again.
Now I'm married and we have an adopted son that we love so much. We have a Bible Study meeting in our home. I still have a lot of health issues....but we have some answers now that I didn't have then and we know what is the proper treatment plan now.
I faced lots of days of depression and anxiety that I didn't want to share with others and missed quite a few meetings as a result. Anyway....this is a little portion of what it was like for me.
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Post by Scott Ross on Sept 4, 2010 13:37:37 GMT -5
My decision to leave the work was made with a lot of soul searching. I have an illness that will be with me the rest of my life. I loved the work so very much and never ever wanted to leave. The workers and friends were so supportive of me continuing, but I felt like I was keeping others back from what they could do with having to accomodate my illness. Leaving wrenched my heart out....... I began taking classes right away to get me back into a useful job and worked part-time while schooling. Friends let me live with them until I had a full-time position and could live on my own. I remember one time going to a Gospel meeting and "hearing" God speak to my heart again, this was after a few months since I left the work. When you leave, you don't know where you fit in..... Being in the work and that fellowship was so much a part of my life for almost 2 decades. I was single.....schooling, working, trying to get it all together and so very lonely. I was asked from time to time from the older brother in the state if I needed any financial help. Only one time did I say I did. The workers in the field at that time were very supportive. The first time that I went to preps they met me in the yard and cried with me as I faced being back to a place I loved so much. Did I mention that I LOVED the work?! ((SMILE)) The tears flow as I remember those days and those experiences again. Now I'm married and we have an adopted son that we love so much. We have a Bible Study meeting in our home. I still have a lot of health issues....but we have some answers now that I didn't have then and we know what is the proper treatment plan now. I faced lots of days of depression and anxiety that I didn't want to share with others and missed quite a few meetings as a result. Anyway....this is a little portion of what it was like for me. Thanks so much for sharing that with us daisycarlee. It is nice to read how you and your husband are doing well now, and that you still have a part in the fellowship by having meetings in your home. Scott
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Post by daisycarlee on Sept 4, 2010 15:51:11 GMT -5
Thanks Scott.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 4, 2010 17:18:28 GMT -5
Reading Daisycarlee's account of leaving the work due to health challenges reminded me of long ago listening to a young Marilyn Wheeler at convention saying through tears that she thought she might have to leave the work because she had been diagnosed with lupus and as she looked through the classified ads for "help wanted" she realized how much she did NOT want to leave the work. She didn't, but I still remember her distress that she might have to.
Glad you've found help for whatever your health challenges are...keep well!
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Post by emy on Sept 4, 2010 18:06:32 GMT -5
My decision to leave the work was made with a lot of soul searching. I have an illness that will be with me the rest of my life. I loved the work so very much and never ever wanted to leave. The workers and friends were so supportive of me continuing, but I felt like I was keeping others back from what they could do with having to accomodate my illness. Leaving wrenched my heart out....... I began taking classes right away to get me back into a useful job and worked part-time while schooling. Friends let me live with them until I had a full-time position and could live on my own. I remember one time going to a Gospel meeting and "hearing" God speak to my heart again, this was after a few months since I left the work. When you leave, you don't know where you fit in..... Being in the work and that fellowship was so much a part of my life for almost 2 decades. I was single.....schooling, working, trying to get it all together and so very lonely. I was asked from time to time from the older brother in the state if I needed any financial help. Only one time did I say I did. The workers in the field at that time were very supportive. The first time that I went to preps they met me in the yard and cried with me as I faced being back to a place I loved so much. Did I mention that I LOVED the work?! ((SMILE)) The tears flow as I remember those days and those experiences again. Now I'm married and we have an adopted son that we love so much. We have a Bible Study meeting in our home. I still have a lot of health issues....but we have some answers now that I didn't have then and we know what is the proper treatment plan now. I faced lots of days of depression and anxiety that I didn't want to share with others and missed quite a few meetings as a result. Anyway....this is a little portion of what it was like for me. This was heartwarming to read, and I'm glad you have found a place to be happy and well!
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Post by Scott Ross on Sept 4, 2010 19:50:54 GMT -5
I left the work years ago..married..my years there were..some good some awful..I left because of what I saw amongst workers..heard and experienced.....knew something wasn't quite right..so a whole bunch of things caused me to leave..but still kept on for many years now just recently with much study of the Bible..and listening to solid Bible teaching..... we must take/read scripture in context at all times..there are many others out there that don't.. yes leaving was a real experience..some folks never spoke to me again many remained cordial..now of course I'm off limits..one told me recently as I called..that what I now know and understand was simply 'false'..as for me I rejoice in my Lord and Saviour there is a resounding Thank-you in my heart for marvelous light and liberty that the Lord God by His precious Holy Spirit has drawn me into...for this I praise God.. Thanks for sharing your experience also. Perhaps you can share more here with us about some of the subjects that have been brought up. It is interesting to hear of different experiences, and I have heard others share similar to what you did. I would think that the shunning might even be harder to take for an ex-worker than for some of the other folks. After staying in peoples homes and being looked up to, and then to be shunned by them........ Pretty sad for sure.. It sounds like who one has for an overseer plays a large part in the 'worker experience'. Likewise I am sure that getting stuck with an overbearing or lazy companion too often would lead to a lot of discouragement. Scott
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Post by daisycarlee on Sept 4, 2010 20:59:59 GMT -5
Thanks each one for the support. I am doing very well with my health.....AND.....I have the same autoimmune that Marilyn W. had plus an additional autoimmune that was just recently diagnosed and is new to the medical industry. Just gotta be different eh? ((SMILE))
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Post by Deleted on Sept 4, 2010 22:10:49 GMT -5
Thanks each one for the support. I am doing very well with my health.....AND.....I have the same autoimmune that Marilyn W. had plus an additional autoimmune that was just recently diagnosed and is new to the medical industry. Just gotta be different eh? ((SMILE)) Oh boy....and they say the professing folks are the last to try something new and here you are leading the pack!!! Well, do keep us posted.
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Post by emy on Sept 4, 2010 22:12:47 GMT -5
I left the work years ago..married..my years there were..some good some awful..I left because of what I saw amongst workers..heard and experienced.....knew something wasn't quite right..so a whole bunch of things caused me to leave..but still kept on for many years now just recently with much study of the Bible..and listening to solid Bible teaching..... we must take/read scripture in context at all times..there are many others out there that don't.. yes leaving was a real experience..some folks never spoke to me again many remained cordial..now of course I'm off limits..one told me recently as I called..that what I now know and understand was simply 'false'..as for me I rejoice in my Lord and Saviour there is a resounding Thank-you in my heart for marvelous light and liberty that the Lord God by His precious Holy Spirit has drawn me into...for this I praise God.. Been there, I'm sorry I somehow missed your post. Thanks for sharing. I'm happy that you at last have found the drawing of the Spirit. Thanks Scott, for re-posting.
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Post by Linford Bledsoe on Nov 20, 2010 7:39:30 GMT -5
I must be one wierd puppy. I spent 12 years in the work and enjoyed it. I left came back to Pa. and married the greatest lady We have had 35 years of a great marriage and have a wonderful daughter in law,also a special son. A little grandaughter that is the apple of our eye. Did I ever go through the dark night of the soul? No way,because I did what God showed me to do,and there is no regret in doing what God asks us to do.
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Post by emy on Nov 20, 2010 17:52:27 GMT -5
I am so happy for you. Linford. Others were aware that they were doing as God asked them in going into the Work. However some did not feel their exiting was part of His Will. This has terrible consequences for those involved. Were those cases of being asked to leave? Otherwise, why did they go if it wasn't God's will?
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Post by emy on Nov 20, 2010 17:53:25 GMT -5
I must be one wierd puppy. I spent 12 years in the work and enjoyed it. I left came back to Pa. and married the greatest lady We have had 35 years of a great marriage and have a wonderful daughter in law,also a special son. A little grandaughter that is the apple of our eye. Did I ever go through the dark night of the soul? No way,because I did what God showed me to do,and there is no regret in doing what God asks us to do. Lin, no doubt there are quite a few like you. They just aren't hanging around here. But I'm glad you are!
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Post by Linford Bledsoe on Nov 20, 2010 19:25:36 GMT -5
Thanks Emy. I do know there are quite a number who feel like I do. I don't take seriously what I read here.
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