I have wrote to adm but want to put this question out there. I find it so sad the division between states on the divorce issue. We were raise on the W coast , engaged as teens and married other people. We found each other 27 years later and now have a surprise a 3 year old a gift for sure!!!! We professed in another area then the W coast, due to health issues had to come to CA. We asked if we could attend mtgs, yes but.......... no testimony, prayer, emblems, even no choosing a hymn. We have been going for over a year not always easy but with the help of the God we have tried to keep the right spirit. I wrote a letter to the overseer in CA and he did not address my concern of our little boy being excluded because of us I was just told of the stance here and he would not want to be in my shoes. They have so much power, so judgemental which they say they are not. Anyone with anything on this? Itt was shocking being raised it this way and founding out the diffrences. Eilene
Having been raised in "the Truth" on the West Coast, I'm not surprised by the leverage being exercised over you. The power they're trying to wield over you is eerily similar to the partiality the apostle James warned against in James 2.
This is a perfect example of how far apart God's righteousness is from man's righteousness.
God is not honored and glorified by our attempts at being righteous, but by us taking on His righteousness, which can only be done by our act of faith that He has already paid the full price for our sin when Christ bore the sins of the whole world to the cross and rose again the third day.
God is the giver of life and Christ has already paid the price for our sin. Salvation is not attainable by man, lest any man should boast (Eph. 2:9), but by grace through faith in Christ Jesus.
I would encourage you to fellowship with people who believe that Jesus (as opposed to "His 2x2 ministry") is the way, the truth, and the life and that no man comes to the Father except through Him (Jn 14:6). Give your 3-year old "gift" the gift of growing up in a home that exemplifies the love of God.
I would find a church that teaches the gospel of the bible, or move to the midwest. Many people that have been divorced in the midwest are partaking fully in the fellowship of Irvine. Again, I would go somewhere else for fellowship in Christ.
Survive, I will share this with you. I had never been married or lived with a woman, and although I had relations with women, I still was just guilty of fornication. A beautiful child happened to be a result of one such relationships, and I went to court and got custody of my daughter and raised her alone for over 10 years, while going to meetings. I was on the west coast, in the Northwest, and I was considered married and not allowed to even consider marriage, because of the child. After many years of discussion, Marylin Wheeler went to Eldon and they discussed it and found that it was alright for me to marry. By that time, I had left the fellowship and moved on. During the time when I was wanting to find a good spiritual woman, to have a home with and to be a mother to my child, I found one woman in particular that was very spiritual and since we had neither been married, I felt it was perfect. Certain "friends" stuck their noses in and one night, this woman disappeared, and I was excommunicated shortly after, and I know that this desire to marry this woman was part of the reason, ( I never was given a real reason) for my excommunication. I don't know what to tell you for advice, but realize that you are not alone, and do what God places in your heart. The workers are not together on this and so I feel they have something wrong. They are the ones with the issue to deal with, not you. Speak to as many of the "friends" as you can that are open to discussion and tell them how you feel. I think that things like that cannot be ignored forever and a choice needs to be made. Also have the workers show you scripture where you can't take part because of your past, and maybe discuss the woman at the well, or the woman taken in adultery. "Go and sin no more" was what Jesus said, not " well you can follow me, but don't get too close" Best of luck and always put your child's spiritual needs first, with your own.
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Post by squekey12345 on Nov 25, 2008 20:53:44 GMT -5
i used to live on the west coast and was thrown out because people thought that i had slept with a friend who was professing and was a guy i did not. needless to say i am happily going to meetings when i can with my two children whom i am happy that god has blessed me with
Post by maggsmagpie on Mar 10, 2009 1:25:15 GMT -5
Hi I left a message on Ïts hard to be considered an outsider. What I did not say is I too am divorced and remarried and would be treated the same as you. That is not why I would not want to rejoin because Jesus would not treat you that way and what gives a worker the right to treat you like that. maggsmagpie
wally: well if it really has to do with the truth put it in the truth meeting board, if it has elements in it that have nothing to do with the truth i would put it in the jump board...IMO
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Old_Sinner: I have an old pik with George Walker and a dozen or so old workers in it. Where should I post it?
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crumbsly: Proboards needs a serious security upgrade. Should be on par with that of high traffic forums. Better safe than sorry
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wally: thats probably best if you can't navigate the forum, but you might want to get comfy cause conventions might not come around for awhile...
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northernsoul: I think the only solution I can come up with to be heard is speak at the open meeting once conventions are back up and running!!!!
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ipsedixit: Does that answer your question, rational?
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shushy: Yep they in court presently. I left fb couple days ago but they would have sold of my info anyway.
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shushy: Tesla made 5 and the magnetic coils.
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shushy: The magnetic coils will heal us bz our energy is compatible. I have heard 5 G irritates the brain but no idea how it spreads the virus bz I dont believe in covid it has been a smoke screen for other thungs.
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shushy: 5G will kill us off.
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rational: Does Tesla make magnetic coils? How do they function on cellphone networks? And how does 5G spread the virus?
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shushy: rational: 5G does yes, if it is turned on. Praying the tesla magnetic coils which will replace 5G agenda.
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rational: Any chance any of the information you are reading was transmitted through a 5G network? I have heard claims that the fifth-generation (5G) telecoms network is speeding up the spread of the novel coronavirus.
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wally: nothing has changed if your wondering....
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faune: Hello again after a long absence. I trust you all keep well and safe during these uncertain times and a global pandemic?
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