sally
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Post by sally on Sept 1, 2009 0:08:50 GMT -5
Just posting an FYI that Lonnie Haken is running around Minnesota. word is that he's been down in the Worthington area seeing family and now back somewhere in Minneapolis looking for work....don't know where he's living or what but just don't like the fact that he's released already - too dangerous to have around - his niece Angela Becker gets married next weekend, wonder if he thinks he'll go to the wedding - hope the people that are invited look out for him and blow the whistle to authorities if there are minors there!
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Post by Scott Ross on Sept 1, 2009 7:15:29 GMT -5
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Post by eyedeetentee on Sept 2, 2009 12:50:59 GMT -5
Knowing some involved in that situation, I am still not convinced he is guilty.
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Post by emy on Sept 2, 2009 13:51:30 GMT -5
Nice to see a person who stands up for what he believes. Thanks ID10T
(I have no opinion on the case.)
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Post by Redwing on Sept 10, 2009 15:23:40 GMT -5
Knowing some involved in that situation, I am still not convinced he is guilty. Knowing most all in the situation I am convinced he is He was not at the wedding
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Post by eyedeetentee on Sept 11, 2009 16:42:25 GMT -5
What wedding?
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Post by Redwing on Sept 11, 2009 23:04:03 GMT -5
His niece's
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Post by eyedeetentee on Sept 12, 2009 13:23:16 GMT -5
How does not being at a wedding make him guilty? Just because he was convicted does not make him guilty. Innocent people get convicted.
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Post by richard7 on Sept 20, 2009 19:27:25 GMT -5
In legal terms "convicted" means "guilty." He was convicted in a court of law. This is real. Not your personal opinion. The jury has access to evidence that the public does not.
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Post by jphillips on Oct 4, 2009 20:25:05 GMT -5
Knowing some involved in that situation, I am still not convinced he is guilty. Knowing most all in the situation I am convinced he is He was not at the wedding So does he still profess ... go to meetings? Did this situation present any difficulties for his family, if they professed or if they still do?
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Post by eyedeetentee on Oct 8, 2009 14:11:23 GMT -5
In legal terms "convicted" means "guilty." He was convicted in a court of law. This is real. Not your personal opinion. The jury has access to evidence that the public does not. You fail to see the point of humanity. Life is not black and white.
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Post by Scott Ross on Oct 8, 2009 14:32:28 GMT -5
You fail to see the point of humanity. Life is not black and white. Do you feel that he was actually 'not guilty'? He did enter a guilty plea you know, and also admitted that he had done wrong. Just curious as to where you are coming from on this issue is all.... Scott
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Post by eyedeetentee on Oct 8, 2009 14:54:58 GMT -5
The law is a very complex issue and many admit things that are not true. We live in a world that glares upon those it thinks are guilty until they admit guilt. Child abuse has many forms and many interpretations. What we hear people say may not be what they mean. That goes for Lonnie, the kid, and the kid's parent. No one may ever know the truth of the matter but the court feels justified in its action (and publicity ["we may not be a big city full of child molesters but we know how to put them away even if they aren't guilty . . but shhh . . don't tell anyone . . . we did the public a service"]), the parent feels justified for whatever reason (some kind of religious reason, I am sure), the kid feels justified because it's parent does, and who cares whether Lonnie feels justified . . he's a bad criminal and has no voice.
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Post by sharon on Oct 9, 2009 10:40:52 GMT -5
The law is a very complex issue and many admit things that are not true. We live in a world that glares upon those it thinks are guilty until they admit guilt. Child abuse has many forms and many interpretations. What we hear people say may not be what they mean. That goes for Lonnie, the kid, and the kid's parent. No one may ever know the truth of the matter but the court feels justified in its action (and publicity ["we may not be a big city full of child molesters but we know how to put them away even if they aren't guilty . . but shhh . . don't tell anyone . . . we did the public a service"]), the parent feels justified for whatever reason (some kind of religious reason, I am sure), the kid feels justified because it's parent does, and who cares whether Lonnie feels justified . . he's a bad criminal and has no voice. we all know for a certainty that if someone is punished for something they are NOT guilty for that the truth will always come out and retribution is almost certain...God sees to it...he hates oppression, regardless of which side it comes from. That said, I think, God will see to the young children first! They are the innocent in it all usually, though they are often found to be saying one thing and it is usally saying something that "will get them in good" with whomever they're wanting to get in good with! However, IF the child has been led to say something that isn't true, it usually isn't long until that child does break their silence...oftentimes when they become an adult and face the same issues against themselves. As it is known, abused children often abuse....so comes the fact that in retribution, it wouldn't be amiss if God sees fit to allow the person to face false allegations themself just to know how it feels. JMO
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Post by eyedeetentee on Oct 10, 2009 13:19:16 GMT -5
Agreed.
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Post by open mind on Oct 12, 2009 0:18:02 GMT -5
I cant believe you would stick up for a child molester....sickening
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Post by JO on Oct 13, 2009 19:56:30 GMT -5
No one is sticking up for a child molester - just wondering if the court got it right. Many times courts and juries have been flat out wrong.
If you insist on denying your guilt you rot in jail.
If you plead guilty as they advise you to, you could be released in a couple of years.
Most times the justice system works well. But not always.
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Post by eyedeetentee on Oct 14, 2009 11:32:46 GMT -5
No one is sticking up for a child molester - just wondering if the court got it right. Many times courts and juries have been flat out wrong. If you insist on denying your guilt you rot in jail. If you plead guilty as they advise you to, you could be released in a couple of years. Most times the justice system works well. But not always. Yep. I wasn't going to respond to the aussie. I figure some people just can't read or comprehend so there is no point in replying.
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Post by open mind on Oct 14, 2009 19:00:26 GMT -5
The law is a very complex issue and many admit things that are not true. We live in a world that glares upon those it thinks are guilty until they admit guilt. Child abuse has many forms and many interpretations. What we hear people say may not be what they mean. That goes for Lonnie, the kid, and the kid's parent. No one may ever know the truth of the matter but the court feels justified in its action (and publicity ["we may not be a big city full of child molesters but we know how to put them away even if they aren't guilty . . but shhh . . don't tell anyone . . . we did the public a service"]), the parent feels justified for whatever reason (some kind of religious reason, I am sure), the kid feels justified because it's parent does, and who cares whether Lonnie feels justified . . he's a bad criminal and has no voice. This to me sounds like a defence against the offender...
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