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Post by pianoman on Jun 12, 2009 0:10:29 GMT -5
Just trying to keep it together with the other posts to make it easier for readers to do a look back.
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Post by rational on Jun 12, 2009 6:07:57 GMT -5
Just trying to keep it together with the other posts to make it easier for readers to do a look back. After reading the majority of the 5 pages in this thread it seems the majority of it is emotionally driven with a lack of solid facts. It seems some people do have direct knowledge of the case but the obvious bias in the reporting makes one wonder about the completeness of the reporting. Is there anyplace where the events have been recounted in a factual and non-judgmental way?
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Post by White Knight on Jul 2, 2009 19:09:45 GMT -5
For all readers info today the second twin plead guilt too all the charges. Just had an update, twin pleaded no contest.
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Post by rational on Jul 2, 2009 20:23:04 GMT -5
For all readers info today the second twin plead guilt too all the charges. Just had an update, twin pleaded no contest. Did the twin plead guilty or no contest?
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Post by White Knight on Jul 2, 2009 20:43:26 GMT -5
For all readers info today the second twin plead guilt no contest too all the charges. However, made a plea bargin.
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Post by sharon on Jul 3, 2009 20:22:45 GMT -5
For all readers info today the second twin plead guilt no contest too all the charges. However, made a plea bargin. Oh, oh! Sounds like more to come? She made a plea bargain, just what is she going to give in that plea? Usually it's like turning state's evidence isn't it? Against a bigger party? woops! I'm sorry for the young lady! Sounds like this is not over yet?
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Post by rational on Jul 7, 2009 13:38:48 GMT -5
For all readers info today the second twin plead guilt no contest too all the charges. However, made a plea bargin. Oh, oh! Sounds like more to come? She made a plea bargain, just what is she going to give in that plea? Usually it's like turning state's evidence isn't it? Against a bigger party? woops! I'm sorry for the young lady! Sounds like this is not over yet? A plea bargain could be as simple pleading no contest, saving the state the effort of a trial, in exchange for a reduces sentence. Of course, pleasing no contest also means that (usually) the verdict cannot be used against the person if a civil suit is filed later.
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Post by White Knight on Jul 7, 2009 21:24:16 GMT -5
Stephanie has received the same sentance as Bethanie 1yr probation pluse other conditions. In which the felony was reduced to a misdemeanor.
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Post by Scott Ross on Jul 8, 2009 9:37:19 GMT -5
Stephanie has received the same sentance as Bethanie 1yr probation pluse other conditions. In which the felony was reduced to a misdemeanor. Not quite. Bethanie had a guilty plea and Stephanie had a no contest plea. The sentences were similar, but Stephanie did not get fined, but had to pay a small court cost. I believe there is to be another hearing in August for Stephanie also. They do each have to attend counseling for one year at the Community Mental Health Center. Scott
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Post by jhjmr on Jul 8, 2009 11:27:52 GMT -5
Why would you take a no contest plea if you were not lying? Why would you just back out of all of these terrible incidents that was claimed to have happened? Does someone think they can try and put a spin on everything that transpires to try and make it look different than they wanted it to be? It was either, no contest or jail. Thank goodness the girl isn't going to jail. There is a reason for mental health counseling!! A lot of people should be going with them!!
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Post by ScholarGal on Jul 8, 2009 11:40:29 GMT -5
Why would you take a no contest plea if you were not lying? Why would you just back out of all of these terrible incidents that was claimed to have happened? Why did the parents take a no contest plea in their case?
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Post by jhjmr on Jul 8, 2009 11:58:09 GMT -5
The parents never said they didn't do anything. They took a no contest after they said they used a belt and etc. so that they could get on with everything and get their four little children home. It was on the advice of the attorney so that it could be hurried a long. But, they did accept help to raise their family and the family is doing very well. Never did they say nothing ever took place in correction.
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Post by rational on Jul 20, 2009 9:03:06 GMT -5
The parents never said they didn't do anything. They took a no contest after they said they used a belt and etc. so that they could get on with everything and get their four little children home. I wonder if getting the four little children back to a home where the parents struck them with objects was a good thing?
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Post by jhjmr on Jul 20, 2009 19:46:30 GMT -5
Now, try to be rational with that comment. Come on, do you think the courts would give the four children back to abusive parents? If they struck the children with objects, that would be abusive and not a good things!! They never had a bruise to be seen nor anything else. So, here we go with what people have to live with from people that are just destructive in their comments. To bad the four children couldn't answer you. But of course, they wouldn't be telling the truth because they would be struck with some object. I was raised with the correction of a belt like many generations. And we feared the belt, so it helped to keep us in line. It was never done malice or mean, it was a form of correction that was just used. The courts do not like spanking with a belt, so that will not be done again. But, just think of the children that are loved and corrected with a belt by the parents with the best intentions in mind. To train their children to become respectful adults, but trying to be abusive. So, I'm not surprised by the comment, it is to be expected by some people. But believe me, when social services gets through examining all aspects of a child's life, they are only returned when they know all is good for the child. Sorry if that is a disappointment!!
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