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Post by melissa on Nov 28, 2008 4:27:25 GMT -5
Is it appropriate for so many judgments and anti- other christian opinions to be made in meeting by Workers and friends?
With so many faults of our own, wherever we worship, should there be stone throwing, particularly in meetings?
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Post by shushy on Nov 28, 2008 6:49:24 GMT -5
I think you know the answer Melissa.
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Post by melissa on Nov 30, 2008 11:59:04 GMT -5
wouldn't it be a good idea to ban all such speeches?
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Post by september on Nov 30, 2008 14:28:19 GMT -5
wouldn't it be a good idea to ban all such speeches? Who is going to ban them? Surely banning them is an implied admission that the fellowship hasn't got the monopoly on salvation?
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Post by Geoff on Nov 30, 2008 15:46:33 GMT -5
"should there be stone throwing, particularly in meetings? "
What do you mean by this term?
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Post by melissa on Dec 5, 2008 10:33:27 GMT -5
I mean that we hear too many anti other christian religions, criticism of other christian, vicars, priests pastors, church-goers; criticism of those who do not attend any church at all, the world, modern youth, no one does right in the eyes of some speakers.
It seems to me that it is now time for workers and friends to visit other denominational churches as well as groups like the 2x2s and look for some good that they do.. They may be pleasntly surprised at the sincerity that exists as well as the fruit of love to be seen. After that as inward glance wight show up a few flaws. Then they would have a realistic opportunity to do some comparing. Just my view on this.
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Post by melissa on Dec 5, 2008 10:33:25 GMT -5
I think you know the answer Melissa. Yes, never, Shushy. But we should never say never.
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Post by september on Dec 5, 2008 11:38:36 GMT -5
I mean that we hear too many anti other christian religions, criticism of other christian, vicars, priests pastors, church-goers; criticism of those who do not attend any church at all, the world, modern youth, no one does right in the eyes of some speakers. It seems to me that it is now time for workers and friends to visit other denominational churches as well as groups like the 2x2s and look for some good that they do.. They may be pleasntly surprised at the sincerity that exists as well as the fruit of love to be seen. After that as inward glance wight show up a few flaws. Then they would have a realistic opportunity to do some comparing. Just my view on this. The workers do visit other churches but with a view to making contacts for subsequent conversion to the fellowship. Any righteous, godly soul found in any other establishment will naturally be drawn to the workers and God's truth and way. If not, then they are quite simply not honest souls. I imagine the workers wouldn't necessarily encourage the friends to visit other churches but have heard of some going to Brethern meetings for example, reasoning that they couldn't expect them to visit their church if they wouldn't visit the Brethern church. Of course, the Brethern church is pretty exclusive too and I have heard it said that they'll not visit other churches as they were content with what they had in their own church.
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Post by Geoff on Dec 5, 2008 14:11:52 GMT -5
"If not, then they are quite simply not honest souls. "
Surely "honest souls" don't need saving?
We are not honest of our own doing, thats God within us, so anyone who is honest is already saved?
Is my logic flawed?
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Post by september on Dec 5, 2008 21:00:30 GMT -5
"If not, then they are quite simply not honest souls. "Surely "honest souls" don't need saving? We are not honest of our own doing, thats God within us, so anyone who is honest is already saved? Is my logic flawed? I'm sure you've heard the workers speak of honest, seeking souls that are drawn to the fellowship? It is to that mindset I refer. The premise is regardless of how godly and righteous one may appear, unless they become part of God's truth and way (i.e. the fellowship) they are not truly righteous nor honest. I don't think your logic flawed!
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Post by Geoff on Dec 6, 2008 3:54:40 GMT -5
"I'm sure you've heard the workers speak of honest, seeking souls that are drawn to the fellowship? It is to that mindset I refer. The premise is regardless of how godly and righteous one may appear, unless they become part of God's truth and way (i.e. the fellowship) they are not truly righteous nor honest.
I don't think your logic flawed! "
yes, I've heard the term mentioned many times, and I disagree with it. If attending meetings makes people "honest" then they are not previously honest souls. If they are honest souls before any preaching, then they don't need saving.
But we're none of us honest naturally (of our own accord, strength), so we all need God in our lives. So any unsaved souls should not be called "honest".
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Post by melissa on Dec 10, 2008 12:41:19 GMT -5
Small kids are honest. They tell you what they think. That's what Jesus asked us to be like. Isn't it?
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Post by melissa on Dec 10, 2008 12:42:16 GMT -5
I think you know the answer Melissa. So do you, Shushy!
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