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Post by heal on Jun 17, 2008 13:14:51 GMT -5
First time I seen Smeaton convention it's now 2 wk. early why?
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Post by heal on Jun 17, 2008 13:17:01 GMT -5
Looks like Theodore & Smeaton conventions have switched dates..?
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Post by GFG on Jun 17, 2008 15:03:31 GMT -5
Oh, ok, could be true.....a little odd though. Definitely odd.
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Post by be truthful on Jun 17, 2008 15:50:58 GMT -5
I would think that would be obvious also. So I can refer people to the location on the web when they ask me where/when conv is for a certain place. OK, tell us the REAL reason now!
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Post by CherieKropp on Jun 17, 2008 15:55:26 GMT -5
I would think that would be obvious also. So I can refer people to the location on the web when they ask me where/when conv is for a certain place. OK, tell us the REAL reason now! I'm surprised no one has guessed...
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Post by Deleted on Jun 17, 2008 16:03:06 GMT -5
quotes - "Cherie, why do you want this information?
I would think that would be obvious also. So I can refer people to the location on the web when they ask me where/when conv is for a certain place.
OK, tell us the REAL reason now!
Some people proffer "facts" as "knowledge." People who put these facts on the internet about us present themselves as authorities upon us. But knowledge requires context, and knowledge informs. Facts are disconnected statements and can be used on their own to persuade.
I call to your attention a thread about Israel by Ken titled "Controversial. Perhaps an attitude adjustment?"
It is a wonderful example of "facts" vs "knowledge" about Israel.
Which country in the Middle East actually possesses nuclear weapons? Israel.
Which country in the Middle East refuses to sign the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty? Israel.
Which country in the Middle East refuses to allow international inspections of its nuclear facilities? Israel.
Which countries in the Middle East have called for the region to be a nuclear-free zone? Not Isreal.
Which country in the Middle East occupies land belonging to other people? Israel
Which country in the Middle East has for 60 years refused to allow refugees to return to their homes and refused to consider compensation to them for their lost property? Israel.
Which country has roads on which citizens who are Arab may not drive and housing developments where Arabs may not live? Israel.
Which country in the region has violated more United Nations resolutions than any other? Israel.
Which country in the region has in the past been led by men who at one time were terrorists with a price on their heads? Israel.
Which country in the Middle East openly employs assassination against its political enemies? Israel.
Which country in the region receives an annual gift of $3 billion or more from Congress? Israel.
Which foreign-aid recipient is the only one allowed to receive its aid in a lump sum and which routinely invests part of it in U.S. Treasuries so that taxpayers pay them interest on the taxpayers' gift? Israel.
Which country in the Middle East has the most powerful lobby in the U.S.? Israel.
Which country in the Middle East are most American politicians, journalists and academics afraid to criticize? Israel.
On behalf of which country has the U.S. vetoed the largest number of U.N. Security Council resolutions? Israel.
We understand that this is not the whole, or even a major part of the story of modern Israel. But critics of that tiny country under siege will roll out these "facts." And this is what some do on the Internet about my church.
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Post by heal on Jun 17, 2008 19:49:25 GMT -5
Which country in the Middle East occupies land belonging to other people? Israel
What does Israel own that belongs to other folks?
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Post by heal on Jun 17, 2008 19:52:40 GMT -5
Which country in the region receives an annual gift of $3 billion or more from Congress? Israel.
Ever wonder why?
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Post by gratefulforgrace on Jun 17, 2008 20:17:13 GMT -5
Which country in the Middle East occupies land belonging to other people? IsraelWhat does Israel own that belongs to other folks? They obtained the land they were living on by bombing the Palestinians that were living there. The Palestinians left to avoid being bombed to death. The Israelis never let them come back.
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Post by heal on Jun 17, 2008 23:50:31 GMT -5
Which country in the Middle East occupies land belonging to other people? IsraelWhat does Israel own that belongs to other folks? They obtained the land they were living on by bombing the Palestinians that were living there. The Palestinians left to avoid being bombed to death. The Israelis never let them come back. balognia the jews always had a right to the land cause God originally gave it to them..the jews have always been persecuted and spread out threw the planet for reasons of persecution
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Post by heal on Jun 17, 2008 23:53:10 GMT -5
Israelis never let them come backThe
and rightfully so cause it belongs to the Jews
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Post by Deleted on Jun 18, 2008 7:12:40 GMT -5
Israelis never let them come backThe and rightfully so cause it belongs to the Jews Political domination wasn't in God's plan that I can see. God led them back to Palestine from Egypt, gave them strength to settle there, and set up judges amongst them, and once established (by force sometimes) they lived peaceably amongst the original inhabitants. They did have to defend themselves occasionally. The demand for a king and therefore a political kingdom was the idea of the people.......and the rest is history. Jews lived fairly peaceably in Palestine until 1948.....and then we have modern history. It's perfectly logical that Jews would want a political homeland after the German and Russian experiences. However, in retrospect, the world would be a safer place today if they had scattered from Russia and Germany to the free countries of the world, just as they have done for centuries.
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Post by calleduntoliberty on Jun 18, 2008 16:01:44 GMT -5
Some people proffer "facts" as "knowledge." People who put these facts on the internet about us present themselves as authorities upon us. But knowledge requires context, and knowledge informs. Facts are disconnected statements and can be used on their own to persuade.
I call to your attention a thread about Israel by Ken titled "Controversial. Perhaps an attitude adjustment?"
It is a wonderful example of "facts" vs "knowledge" about Israel.... We understand that this is not the whole, or even a major part of the story of modern Israel. But critics of that tiny country under siege will roll out these "facts." [/b][/quote] No, Bert, it's not the whole story, nor was it put forward as such. But they are facts -- a collection of very important facts -- which are the same knowledge if you accept them. If you want deeper knowledge, learn the details and the stories around each of these facts.
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Post by calleduntoliberty on Jun 18, 2008 16:05:53 GMT -5
balognia the jews always had a right to the land cause God originally gave it to them..the jews have always been persecuted and spread out threw the planet for reasons of persecution Christians are the kingdom of God now, heal. The Jews who have not accepted Jesus have rejected God and His gifts. You're living 3000 years in the past. The fact that God commanded the Jews to conquer that territory thousands of years ago -- which they did -- does not grant the modern Jews the right to do so now. And if they decide to do so anyway, the US government does not have the right to help them.
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Post by Hell on Jun 18, 2008 16:06:23 GMT -5
OK, tell us the REAL reason now! I'm surprised no one has guessed... Hell hath no fury like a woman scorned??
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Post by heal on Jun 18, 2008 20:23:20 GMT -5
balognia the jews always had a right to the land cause God originally gave it to them..the jews have always been persecuted and spread out threw the planet for reasons of persecution Christians are the kingdom of God now, heal. The Jews who have not accepted Jesus have rejected God and His gifts. You're living 3000 years in the past. The fact that God commanded the Jews to conquer that territory thousands of years ago -- which they did -- does not grant the modern Jews the right to do so now. And if they decide to do so anyway, the US government does not have the right to help them. How many more Levee's ? wake up and yes I know the jews need to turn to Christ this is suppose to come about eventually
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Post by heal on Jun 18, 2008 20:25:27 GMT -5
Just because Jews have rejected Christ still doesn't take away the fact that it is still there land...It is
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Post by not Israel on Jun 19, 2008 1:54:47 GMT -5
Bert, Did you start a church? refer to "my church" or are you refering to your Sunday AM meeting as a church or the cult in general that you think is a church Bert? Bert, why do you follow cult leaders who do not have the fruit of the spirit in their lives and hate people who believe God? It is because you are one of the devils' children and hate Jesus Christ and what He taught. If you think Cherie has a fault with wanting to know information, consider the plank in your own eye and take care of yourself first so you don't blind other people as you try to "help". -not Israel quotes - "Cherie, why do you want this information? I would think that would be obvious also. So I can refer people to the location on the web when they ask me where/when conv is for a certain place. OK, tell us the REAL reason now! Some people proffer "facts" as "knowledge." People who put these facts on the internet about us present themselves as authorities upon us. But knowledge requires context, and knowledge informs. Facts are disconnected statements and can be used on their own to persuade.
I call to your attention a thread about Israel by Ken titled "Controversial. Perhaps an attitude adjustment?"
It is a wonderful example of "facts" vs "knowledge" about Israel.Which country in the Middle East actually possesses nuclear weapons? Israel.Which country in the Middle East refuses to sign the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty? Israel.Which country in the Middle East refuses to allow international inspections of its nuclear facilities? Israel.Which countries in the Middle East have called for the region to be a nuclear-free zone? Not Isreal.Which country in the Middle East occupies land belonging to other people? IsraelWhich country in the Middle East has for 60 years refused to allow refugees to return to their homes and refused to consider compensation to them for their lost property? Israel.Which country has roads on which citizens who are Arab may not drive and housing developments where Arabs may not live? Israel.Which country in the region has violated more United Nations resolutions than any other? Israel. Which country in the region has in the past been led by men who at one time were terrorists with a price on their heads? Israel. Which country in the Middle East openly employs assassination against its political enemies? Israel.
Which country in the region receives an annual gift of $3 billion or more from Congress? Israel.Which foreign-aid recipient is the only one allowed to receive its aid in a lump sum and which routinely invests part of it in U.S. Treasuries so that taxpayers pay them interest on the taxpayers' gift? Israel.Which country in the Middle East has the most powerful lobby in the U.S.? Israel.Which country in the Middle East are most American politicians, journalists and academics afraid to criticize? Israel.On behalf of which country has the U.S. vetoed the largest number of U.N. Security Council resolutions? Israel.
We understand that this is not the whole, or even a major part of the story of modern Israel. But critics of that tiny country under siege will roll out these "facts." And this is what some do on the Internet about my church.
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