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Post by Laurie Anne on Apr 27, 2008 17:12:04 GMT -5
Difficulties in marriage, separation and divorce seems to be on the increase in UK. What is causing this? Are Workers changing their strict code and becoming more humane?
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Post by aileen on Apr 28, 2008 13:56:41 GMT -5
This is quite variable. In my case it didn't seem to cause much trouble, but I have heard of others where there were restrictions.
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Post by WHAT CAUSE on Apr 29, 2008 10:45:00 GMT -5
What has not caused you much trouble, Aileen?
The tread is about divorce and separation and workers attitudes to the same.
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Post by Move towards on Apr 29, 2008 12:13:53 GMT -5
There seems to be a definate leaning towards accomodating people instead of punishing anyone who dared to contemplate divorce. There is a much more understanding attitude amongst the under fifty workers.
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Post by More tollerant on May 6, 2008 11:19:01 GMT -5
I think workers, especially younger workers are more humane in discussing divorce, remarriage etc. The younger ones are afraid to commit themselves but they are more sympathetic.
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Post by different everywhere on May 7, 2008 8:44:21 GMT -5
I have been told Irish workers take a much stricter line than English.
People in England who are div/remarried etc who have workers in their home, meetings, and participate fully
If they visit Ireland, they are not allowed into any meeting, any convention, and not even a Gospel Meeting (which I thought was public and for the benefit of sinners)
If this is the case things are not the same all over the world, and any worker saying so is deceiving others if not already deluding him/herself I know of div/remarried people in England who are allowed the full offices of any other professing person. Even of separated/div people who were strongly 'encouraged' by workersto marry each other in such strange circumstances, and who were accepted in kindness and love
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Post by Where on May 7, 2008 11:59:59 GMT -5
Where in England? Are you sure ? I am English and know of quite the reverse being true. General intolerance of Divorce for 2x2 and total prohibition of remarriage.
An exception where a relative of a worker was encouraged to separate and a most unauthodox and illegal proposition offered by way of settlement concerning offspring.
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Post by Deleted on May 7, 2008 14:20:51 GMT -5
Marriage following divorce is prohibited by workers in Scotland !
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Post by aileen on May 7, 2008 14:53:19 GMT -5
I have been divorced (a long time ago) and remarried. No restrictions. I know of others, even (Ram) in Scotland there's one or two.
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Post by Deleted on May 7, 2008 15:08:13 GMT -5
Aileen, I was told plainly that I COULD NOT re-marry !
I was not even talking about marriage at the time. Nothing was further from my mind at the time. However, the worker was just itching to impart this wonderous pearl of wisdom in view of the fact I had mentioned attending gospel missions.
I have not had any prospect of re-marrying, nor have I given it much thought. I'm still once bitten twice shy.
However, rule nothing out.
That ranting maniac gave me the best bit of post divorce advice and attitude I could have experienced. At the time I was somewhat p------ off, but now I am most thankful for it, because it forced me to reason all things out with reaoning, logic and sincere prayer.
Needless to say the results have been extremely enlightening.
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Post by aileen on May 8, 2008 11:32:23 GMT -5
Well, Ram, they must be as inconsistent in Scotland as they are here eh?
But never despair, you'll find a better one one day, there's plenty of them nice Scotch lassies aboot.
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Post by Deleted on May 8, 2008 12:39:16 GMT -5
Why do you think I invited you round for coffee Aileen ?
And all I got was a kick in the teeth !
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Post by Rules no rules on May 8, 2008 22:01:42 GMT -5
This inconsistency will account for Aileen's frequent claim that there are no rules.
Workers enforce their OWN rules which happen to coincide with other power hungry workers and control freaks.
They are particular workers rules but not general workers rules and nothing whatever to do with Jesus who left behind no rules apart from the commanding rule to LOVE OUR NEIGHBOUR, which is the only rule the majority of workers have missed out on.
After "giving their lives" they think that is enough and then renage on the leaving all and loving others. They then become obsessed with territory, control and the respect they receive and demand.
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Post by Deleted on May 9, 2008 10:32:11 GMT -5
This inconsistency will account for Aileen's frequent claim that there are no rules. Workers enforce their OWN rules which happen to coincide with other power hungry workers and control freaks. They are particular workers rules but not general workers rules and nothing whatever to do with Jesus who left behind no rules apart from the commanding rule to LOVE OUR NEIGHBOUR, which is the only rule the majority of workers have missed out on. After "giving their lives" they think that is enough and then renage on the leaving all and loving others. They then become obsessed with territory, control and the respect they receive and demand. The workers cannot preach "Love Thy Neighbour," especially in the context given by Jesus, quite simply because its outreach would trample the boundaries of the workers' system.
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Post by aileen on May 9, 2008 14:15:38 GMT -5
Why do you think I invited you round for coffee Aileen ? And all I got was a kick in the teeth ! Sorry about that. Didn't realize I had done os, but sometimes I'm a bit insensitive. Plenty good dentists here in the Midlands...
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Post by Deleted on May 9, 2008 16:14:22 GMT -5
I guess I was being a bit of a drama Queen.
Bet the dentists are all private though. None doing NHS stuff ?
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Post by becoming more humane on May 11, 2008 8:50:01 GMT -5
They are getting sense and becoming more realistic even as their numbers dwindle.
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