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Post by Gene on Jun 9, 2017 5:02:23 GMT -5
The grand council ... and not a woman in sight ... even JRR did better than that. and i still wonder why they get their photograph taken ... From what I've heard, there are sister workers present, if not in actual meetings, then at least in close proximity, I assume doing the cooking and washing. A worker complained to us once that the sister workers who are there for the overseer meetings have more say in where he will be sent to labor than he himself does. So, some would say that women are very much present and involved, too much in fact š In my experience, a majority of overseers valued wise council whether it came from a man or a woman. I consider it a testament to their integrity that they counted some sister workers amongst their close advisors.
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Post by CherieKropp on Jun 9, 2017 7:34:49 GMT -5
I presume that you are refering to the policy making/enforcing group of senior workers on the different continents that usually gather approx. annually, either secretly or under some kind of a disguise (convention planning, etc. etc.) Here is a pix of the workers at the European high council meeting in Luxembourg 2005. www.anotherstep.net/Luxemborg2005.htm
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Post by swarupa on Jun 16, 2017 22:47:06 GMT -5
Is there any truth to this.
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Post by johnfields on Jun 17, 2017 3:17:11 GMT -5
The European overseers (not sure about the Americans and others) meet once a year I believe. 2005 in Luxembourg, and this year (2017) on February 6th in Geneva, I'm told.
Of course they are all male. This is a meeting of "celibate" men who decide important things like how to shuffle workers around randomly and whether women should be thrown out for not having their hair in a bun or whether we're going easy with the buns this year.
Luxembourg and Geneva sound like suspicious locations (both tax havens, and Luxembourg became less attractive as a place to launder money in 2015, and overseer meetings are no longer held there), but I'm told by a former worker that annual meetings were held in other places in-between, like Spain and Ireland. If anyone could verify or refute this please let me know! If these meetings are not secret, it should be quite easy for people to say where they've been held over the past decade or so.
Some might have known about this, but it came as an unpleasant surprise to those of my professing relatives that I told about this after discovering it recently. When I was a child, I was always told there was no Earthly founder other than Jesus and no organisation as such. This is nonsense. Many still believe it, although increasingly few.
Supposedly the meetings in Luxembourg were held at the house (must have been a big one!) of a professing man and the overseers liked the central location. I've heard various stories as to why meetings are no longer held in Luxembourg. Some say the meetings move around. Some say the man in whose house they were held is no longer professing. Some say overseers prefer to meet in central locations, but others say they've been held in totally non-central locations. Maybe all of these things are true.
The fruitiest explanation I've heard is that they met in Luxembourg because it's "neutral". Pardon? Which of the world wars are we talking about there?
Luxembourg and Geneva are very expensive locations to even buy food, or to travel to. Low taxes mean high prices for everything else. I would have thought some other, cheaper town, or even a small town with rail links to a big town would end up being far cheaper and just as easy to get to.
I know a bunch of people in different European countries. If we all decided to meet together and I proposed that we meet at the massive house of a friend in Luxembourg or Geneva, my friends would say "I can't afford to go there!! Why don't we meet somewhere cheap, like East Berlin?"
Some people struggle with the idea of secrecy not being an all-or-nothing thing. People who don't want to attract any attention for some reason often have meetings that are not completely secret, but secret enough that you'd call them "secret". That's what the overseers seem to be doing here. I think they know these meetings would not go down well with many professing people, so they keep them quiet and most people don't know about them. It's not like the Church of England where they tell you exactly where they're meeting and when, and publish details of what they've decided.
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Post by openingact34 on Jun 23, 2017 20:02:25 GMT -5
The European overseers (not sure about the Americans and others) meet once a year I believe. 2005 in Luxembourg, and this year (2017) on February 6th in Geneva, I'm told. Yes, several cabals meet to rule over different parts of North America. This is a photo of "The East".
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Post by xna on Jun 23, 2017 20:08:27 GMT -5
The European overseers (not sure about the Americans and others) meet once a year I believe. 2005 in Luxembourg, and this year (2017) on February 6th in Geneva, I'm told. Yes, several cabals meet to rule over different parts of North America. This is a photo of "The East". Many of them must be dead by now?? U have an interesting tag line
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Post by swarupa on Jun 23, 2017 22:15:58 GMT -5
bunch of old poops
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Post by penguin on Jun 24, 2017 2:12:38 GMT -5
The European overseers (not sure about the Americans and others) meet once a year I believe. 2005 in Luxembourg, and this year (2017) on February 6th in Geneva, I'm told. Of course they are all male. This is a meeting of "celibate" men who decide important things like how to shuffle workers around randomly and whether women should be thrown out for not having their hair in a bun or whether we're going easy with the buns this year. Luxembourg and Geneva sound like suspicious locations (both tax havens, and Luxembourg became less attractive as a place to launder money in 2015, and overseer meetings are no longer held there), but I'm told by a former worker that annual meetings were held in other places in-between, like Spain and Ireland. If anyone could verify or refute this please let me know! If these meetings are not secret, it should be quite easy for people to say where they've been held over the past decade or so. Some might have known about this, but it came as an unpleasant surprise to those of my professing relatives that I told about this after discovering it recently. When I was a child, I was always told there was no Earthly founder other than Jesus and no organisation as such. This is nonsense. Many still believe it, although increasingly few. Supposedly the meetings in Luxembourg were held at the house (must have been a big one!) of a professing man and the overseers liked the central location. I've heard various stories as to why meetings are no longer held in Luxembourg. Some say the meetings move around. Some say the man in whose house they were held is no longer professing. Some say overseers prefer to meet in central locations, but others say they've been held in totally non-central locations. Maybe all of these things are true. The fruitiest explanation I've heard is that they met in Luxembourg because it's "neutral". Pardon? Which of the world wars are we talking about there? Luxembourg and Geneva are very expensive locations to even buy food, or to travel to. Low taxes mean high prices for everything else. I would have thought some other, cheaper town, or even a small town with rail links to a big town would end up being far cheaper and just as easy to get to. I know a bunch of people in different European countries. If we all decided to meet together and I proposed that we meet at the massive house of a friend in Luxembourg or Geneva, my friends would say "I can't afford to go there!! Why don't we meet somewhere cheap, like East Berlin?" Some people struggle with the idea of secrecy not being an all-or-nothing thing. People who don't want to attract any attention for some reason often have meetings that are not completely secret, but secret enough that you'd call them "secret". That's what the overseers seem to be doing here. I think they know these meetings would not go down well with many professing people, so they keep them quiet and most people don't know about them. It's not like the Church of England where they tell you exactly where they're meeting and when, and publish details of what they've decided. If Moldova (one of the poorest countries in Europe) was central and there was a suitable place to meet, I think I could assure you these guys would happily meet up there for them to make their convention plans. I don't think by what I have heard they have any expensive partying and tax havens have absolutely nothing to do with it.
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Post by johnfields on Jun 24, 2017 4:38:08 GMT -5
The European overseers (not sure about the Americans and others) meet once a year I believe. 2005 in Luxembourg, and this year (2017) on February 6th in Geneva, I'm told. Of course they are all male. This is a meeting of "celibate" men who decide important things like how to shuffle workers around randomly and whether women should be thrown out for not having their hair in a bun or whether we're going easy with the buns this year. Luxembourg and Geneva sound like suspicious locations (both tax havens, and Luxembourg became less attractive as a place to launder money in 2015, and overseer meetings are no longer held there), but I'm told by a former worker that annual meetings were held in other places in-between, like Spain and Ireland. If anyone could verify or refute this please let me know! If these meetings are not secret, it should be quite easy for people to say where they've been held over the past decade or so. Some might have known about this, but it came as an unpleasant surprise to those of my professing relatives that I told about this after discovering it recently. When I was a child, I was always told there was no Earthly founder other than Jesus and no organisation as such. This is nonsense. Many still believe it, although increasingly few. Supposedly the meetings in Luxembourg were held at the house (must have been a big one!) of a professing man and the overseers liked the central location. I've heard various stories as to why meetings are no longer held in Luxembourg. Some say the meetings move around. Some say the man in whose house they were held is no longer professing. Some say overseers prefer to meet in central locations, but others say they've been held in totally non-central locations. Maybe all of these things are true. The fruitiest explanation I've heard is that they met in Luxembourg because it's "neutral". Pardon? Which of the world wars are we talking about there? Luxembourg and Geneva are very expensive locations to even buy food, or to travel to. Low taxes mean high prices for everything else. I would have thought some other, cheaper town, or even a small town with rail links to a big town would end up being far cheaper and just as easy to get to. I know a bunch of people in different European countries. If we all decided to meet together and I proposed that we meet at the massive house of a friend in Luxembourg or Geneva, my friends would say "I can't afford to go there!! Why don't we meet somewhere cheap, like East Berlin?" Some people struggle with the idea of secrecy not being an all-or-nothing thing. People who don't want to attract any attention for some reason often have meetings that are not completely secret, but secret enough that you'd call them "secret". That's what the overseers seem to be doing here. I think they know these meetings would not go down well with many professing people, so they keep them quiet and most people don't know about them. It's not like the Church of England where they tell you exactly where they're meeting and when, and publish details of what they've decided. If Moldova (one of the poorest countries in Europe) was central and there was a suitable place to meet, I think I could assure you these guys would happily meet up there for them to make their convention plans. I don't think by what I have heard they have any expensive partying and tax havens have absolutely nothing to do with it. Are you sure tax havens have nothing to do with it? You may be right, but I was struck by these two European locations that I know about with reasonable certainty just being very expensive places to visit and both being tax havens. Plus, a certain highly-regarded (by the UK overseer) elder popped off to Zurich at the first wind of a possible investigation involving finances. This may all be coincidence.
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Post by dmmichgood on Jul 2, 2017 1:10:02 GMT -5
The European overseers (not sure about the Americans and others) meet once a year I believe. 2005 in Luxembourg, and this year (2017) on February 6th in Geneva, I'm told. Of course they are all male. This is a meeting of "celibate" men who decide important things like how to shuffle workers around randomly and whether women should be thrown out for not having their hair in a bun or whether we're going easy with the buns this year. Luxembourg and Geneva sound like suspicious locations (both tax havens, and Luxembourg became less attractive as a place to launder money in 2015, and overseer meetings are no longer held there), but I'm told by a former worker that annual meetings were held in other places in-between, like Spain and Ireland. If anyone could verify or refute this please let me know! If these meetings are not secret, it should be quite easy for people to say where they've been held over the past decade or so. Some might have known about this, but it came as an unpleasant surprise to those of my professing relatives that I told about this after discovering it recently. When I was a child, I was always told there was no Earthly founder other than Jesus and no organisation as such. This is nonsense. Many still believe it, although increasingly few. Supposedly the meetings in Luxembourg were held at the house (must have been a big one!) of a professing man and the overseers liked the central location. I've heard various stories as to why meetings are no longer held in Luxembourg. Some say the meetings move around. Some say the man in whose house they were held is no longer professing. Some say overseers prefer to meet in central locations, but others say they've been held in totally non-central locations. Maybe all of these things are true. The fruitiest explanation I've heard is that they met in Luxembourg because it's "neutral". Pardon? Which of the world wars are we talking about there? Luxembourg and Geneva are very expensive locations to even buy food, or to travel to. Low taxes mean high prices for everything else. I would have thought some other, cheaper town, or even a small town with rail links to a big town would end up being far cheaper and just as easy to get to. I know a bunch of people in different European countries. If we all decided to meet together and I proposed that we meet at the massive house of a friend in Luxembourg or Geneva, my friends would say "I can't afford to go there!! Why don't we meet somewhere cheap, like East Berlin?" Some people struggle with the idea of secrecy not being an all-or-nothing thing. People who don't want to attract any attention for some reason often have meetings that are not completely secret, but secret enough that you'd call them "secret". That's what the overseers seem to be doing here. I think they know these meetings would not go down well with many professing people, so they keep them quiet and most people don't know about them. It's not like the Church of England where they tell you exactly where they're meeting and when, and publish details of what they've decided. If Moldova (one of the poorest countries in Europe) was central and there was a suitable place to meet, I think I could assure you these guys would happily meet up there for them to make their convention plans. I don't think by what I have heard they have any expensive partying and tax havens have absolutely nothing to do with it. How can you be sure that "tax havens have absolutely nothing to do with it?"
Penguin, are you a member of their inner circle?
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Post by janj on Jul 2, 2017 15:27:37 GMT -5
If Moldova (one of the poorest countries in Europe) was central and there was a suitable place to meet, I think I could assure you these guys would happily meet up there for them to make their convention plans. I don't think by what I have heard they have any expensive partying and tax havens have absolutely nothing to do with it. How can you be sure that "tax havens have absolutely nothing to do with it?"
Penguin, are you a member of their inner circle?To utilize a tax haven you dont need to physically visit. Do you think they all fly in with a pocket full of money to deposit??
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Post by Gene on Jul 3, 2017 20:03:03 GMT -5
How can you be sure that "tax havens have absolutely nothing to do with it?"
Penguin, are you a member of their inner circle? To utilize a tax haven you dont need to physically visit. Do you think they all fly in with a pocket full of money to deposit?? Maybe they're smuggling diamonds in toothpaste tubes.
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Post by dmmichgood on Jul 4, 2017 1:29:30 GMT -5
How can you be sure that "tax havens have absolutely nothing to do with it?"
Penguin, are you a member of their inner circle? To utilize a tax haven you dont need to physically visit. Do you think they all fly in with a pocket full of money to deposit?? Come on! Of course I know that! I am not that naive!
But you seemed so sure that you knew, I am still asking how do you know that "tax havens have absolutely nothing to do with it?"
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