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Post by Robb Klaty on Oct 26, 2004 17:41:57 GMT -5
The US, although far from perfect, has a record of standing (hating, if you must) against evil. It has led to the liberation of people like you. Still, the US does not need the appreciation of those whom it has liberated... it is enough to simply stand against evil and protect its people. I know that bothers you, but the US does not exist for your approval, although it will be there (God willing) if your country needs to be liberated again.
Robb
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Post by HA on Oct 27, 2004 2:13:21 GMT -5
No, Not God willing - God forbid ...
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Post by Robb Klaty on Oct 27, 2004 10:36:59 GMT -5
You would rather be living under a Nazi dictator than be liberated by the US? Robb
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Post by At least try on Oct 27, 2004 20:01:47 GMT -5
You would rather be living under a Nazi dictator than be liberated by the US? Robb To remember that the liberation of Europe was an Allied effort. The US was just one of the members of that group. In terms of men who went to war they were not the leader.
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Post by Robb Klaty on Oct 27, 2004 21:50:08 GMT -5
Of course it was. I wonder how many countries were involved with the Allied effort in WW2. Do you suppose more or less than thirty?
Well, the US was not the leader when the war started, but as soon as the effort was joined by the US, it became the leader of the Allied effort (not to take away anything from the couragous Brits).
Robb
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Post by Just Here on Oct 28, 2004 7:49:26 GMT -5
Of course it was. I wonder how many countries were involved with the Allied effort in WW2. Do you suppose more or less than thirty? More than 30. But these are countries that were active and not kowtowing to a country and delivering nothing. Australia Belgium Bolivia Brazil British colonies Bulgaria Canada China Colombia Costa Rica Cuba Czechoslovakia Dominican Republic Dutch colonies El Salvador Ethiopia France French colonies Greece Guatemala Haiti Honduras Iran Iraq Luxembourg Mexico Netherlands New Zealand Nicaragua Norway Panama Philippines Poland Romania South Africa Soviet Union United Kingdom United States Yugoslavia How do you arrive at the conclusion that the US was the leader? If memory serves me right there were three leaders that made the decisions regarding the war, Churchill, Roosevelt, and Stalin. In terms of who delivered the most manpower or lost the most soldiers the Soviets are far in the lead.
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Post by Just Here on Oct 28, 2004 7:53:32 GMT -5
You would rather be living under a Nazi dictator than be liberated by the US? Robb The US did not fight WWII alone. Without the effort, soldiers, and materials of others winning would not have been a certainity.
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Post by no name on Oct 31, 2004 21:15:49 GMT -5
THAT's quite obvious -- and the real one, too.
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Post by HA on Nov 1, 2004 4:48:30 GMT -5
THAT's quite obvious -- and the real one, too. « But after the injustice was so much and we saw transgressions and the coalition between Americans and the Israelis against our people in Palestine and Lebanon, it occurred to my mind that we deal with the towers. And these special events that directly and personally affected me go back to 1982 and what happened when America gave permission for Israel to invade Lebanon. And assistance was given by the American sixth fleet.
During those crucial moments, my mind was thinking about many things that are hard to describe. But they produced a feeling to refuse and reject injustice, and I had determination to punish the transgressors.
And as I was looking at those towers that were destroyed in Lebanon, it occurred to me that we have to punish the transgressor with the same -- and that we had to destroy the towers in America so that they taste what we tasted, and they stop killing our women and children.»
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Post by HA on Nov 1, 2004 4:51:09 GMT -5
You would rather be living under a Nazi dictator than be liberated by the US? You liberated Europe - with the help of the allies - and we thank you. But you left - and still have - armies in Europe and in a certain way become Europe's despots. So thank you and please go home.
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Post by Robb Klaty on Nov 1, 2004 7:43:08 GMT -5
Well, we finally agree on something. I am for bringing the troops home. Problem is that the leaders of the countries where they still are throw a fit if such a thing is suggested. I suppose they appreciate the American dollars in their economies. I still say forget what they want and bring em home anyway.
Robb
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Post by CZESZEK on Nov 1, 2004 11:38:11 GMT -5
We must be thankful for the North American efforts in both wars.
Canada was right there at the beginning, twice. The U.S. efforts (despite all the hoo haa isolationist policies for the first few years in both conflicts) was much appreciated, even if somewhat belated.
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Post by no name on Nov 6, 2004 22:24:19 GMT -5
HA:I took a side long time ago - no name:THAT's quite obvious -- and the real one, too. HA (quoting OBL):« But after the injustice was so much and we saw transgressions and the coalition between Americans and the Israelis against our people in Palestine and Lebanon, it occurred to my mind that we deal with the towers. And these special events that directly and personally affected me go back to 1982 and what happened when America gave permission for Israel to invade Lebanon. And assistance was given by the American sixth fleet.
During those crucial moments, my mind was thinking about many things that are hard to describe. But they produced a feeling to refuse and reject injustice, and I had determination to punish the transgressors.
And as I was looking at those towers that were destroyed in Lebanon, it occurred to me that we have to punish the transgressor with the same -- and that we had to destroy the towers in America so that they taste what we tasted, and they stop killing our women and children.» Proving my point yet again.
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Post by HA on Nov 7, 2004 2:59:58 GMT -5
Especially when you speak with the person you meet everymorning when you comb your hair facing the mirror !
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Post by ForeverFree on Nov 25, 2004 9:49:06 GMT -5
Bertine -- please, please open your eyes to the utter failure the UN has been in its "mission" of maintaining international peace and security. It has proven to be a corrupt organization that conveniently looks the other way while mass murder is being carried on throughout the world. Reminds me of Vietnam! Utter failure, corrupt organization, looking the other way while mass murder is being carried out...
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