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Post by mountain on Dec 5, 2021 5:05:23 GMT -5
Firstly, the term 'unreasonable' does not come into it for most of the civilised world. Carrying a firearm without a firearms licence is simply unlawful. The granting of a licence normally prescribes where and when you carry/use 'specific' firearms. The carrying of firearms is very strictly controlled. In the UK hand guns are banned altogether as a result of several mass shootings, etc. In the US where Holyrood has glamorised firearms, especially hand guns, a different culture exists from the rest of us. The 2nd amendment or whatever it is, is used to draw a veil across the John Wayne/Clint Eastwood influence, making the carrying of a firearm no different from carrying a newspaper. In the US it is normal day to day practice to answer Sam Houston's rallying call to liberate Texas from the Mexicans, whereas the rest of us are 'vaccinated' against the need to carry firearms, except for sporting purposes under strict controls. The term 'unreasonable' may apply in the US where there is a call to ban the carrying of firearms, but for most of the professing world, such considerations are reasonable to the extent that suggesting otherwise is sheer lunacy! So, your idea is only criminals need guns and lawful people can go to hell and kick rocks. Absolutely not! This is where a US mindset and that shared by the rest of the professing world are at variance. Our argument is that the possession of firearms except for strictly controlled purposes is unlawful. Guns are hard to get hold off where I live. Lawful people people may go to hell and kick rocks, but it will be for reasons other than the possession of firearms. It appears that a US mindset cannot understand a culture where there are very few firearms amongst the general public and the benefits this holds for society. This is not a criticism but a very serious observation.
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Post by nathan on Dec 5, 2021 10:58:08 GMT -5
I used to think times had changed since the Wild West 150 years ago. Apparently not. NOT these days in USA. They have defunded the police force and so they are very small group of police men/women to protect the people . They have a headache with Smash and grab criminals all over the U.S. right now, home invasions by the 1000s. Drive by shooting and so on...
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Post by fixit on Dec 5, 2021 12:58:08 GMT -5
I used to think times had changed since the Wild West 150 years ago. Apparently not. NOT these days in USA. They have defunded the police force and so they are very small group of police men/women to protect the people . They have a headache with Smash and grab criminals all over the U.S. right now, home invasions by the 1000s. Drive by shooting and so on...The US has an effective and well-funded military. Why not do the same for police?
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Post by Annan on Dec 5, 2021 13:26:37 GMT -5
NOT these days in USA. They have defunded the police force and so they are very small group of police men/women to protect the people . They have a headache with Smash and grab criminals all over the U.S. right now, home invasions by the 1000s. Drive by shooting and so on... The US has an effective and well-funded military. Why not do the same for police? The police force is not under federal control. Each state enacts it’s own laws and penalties. For example, some states enact the death penalty while other states do not. Some states allow its citizens to legally drink alcohol at 18, while other states say 21. The police were not defunded nationwide. Nathan, once again, is a liar. I believe they did defund the police in his area or at least talked about it, I am not 100% sure. But I do know it’s not nationwide as Nathan made it sound in his post. And if there are only a small amount of people to protect someone, who are those people if the police force is defunded? I would ask for statistics for Nathan’s claim of home invasions by the thousands. We all know he lives in a fantasy world and makes up whatever he feels like making up and puts it out there as the truth. Nathan does, however, live in a nut job state. He fits right in.
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Post by nathan02 on Dec 5, 2021 15:07:14 GMT -5
The US has an effective and well-funded military. Why not do the same for police? The police force is not under federal control. Each state enacts it’s own laws and penalties. For example, some states enact the death penalty while other states do not. Some states allow its citizens to legally drink alcohol at 18, while other states say 21. The police were not defunded nationwide. Nathan, once again, is a liar. I believe they did defund the police in his area or at least talked about it, I am not 100% sure. But I do know it’s not nationwide as Nathan made it sound in his post. And if there are only a small amount of people to protect someone, who are those people if the police force is defunded? I would ask for statistics for Nathan’s claim of home invasions by the thousands. We all know he lives in a fantasy world and makes up whatever he feels like making up and puts it out there as the truth. Nathan does, however, live in a nut job state. He fits right in. ** Where did I say refund the police departments in 52 states? Why, are you lying again, Witch? I am speaking Washington State, Oregon and California, Democratic states.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 5, 2021 15:33:42 GMT -5
NOT these days in USA. They have defunded the police force and so they are very small group of police men/women to protect the people . They have a headache with Smash and grab criminals all over the U.S. right now, home invasions by the 1000s. Drive by shooting and so on... The US has an effective and well-funded military. Why not do the same for police? Your leftard brethren in the USA don't want there to be police anymore...its a free for all...
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Post by Deleted on Dec 5, 2021 15:40:30 GMT -5
The police force is not under federal control. Each state enacts it’s own laws and penalties. For example, some states enact the death penalty while other states do not. Some states allow its citizens to legally drink alcohol at 18, while other states say 21. The police were not defunded nationwide. Nathan, once again, is a liar. I believe they did defund the police in his area or at least talked about it, I am not 100% sure. But I do know it’s not nationwide as Nathan made it sound in his post. And if there are only a small amount of people to protect someone, who are those people if the police force is defunded? I would ask for statistics for Nathan’s claim of home invasions by the thousands. We all know he lives in a fantasy world and makes up whatever he feels like making up and puts it out there as the truth. Nathan does, however, live in a nut job state. He fits right in. ** Where did I say refund the police departments in 52 states? Why, are you lying again, Witch? I am speaking Washington State, Oregon and California, Democratic states. *50 states Its happening in roughly 25 CITIES held by socialists that are defunding the police on the table though are many more...
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Post by Annan on Dec 5, 2021 15:45:22 GMT -5
The police force is not under federal control. Each state enacts it’s own laws and penalties. For example, some states enact the death penalty while other states do not. Some states allow its citizens to legally drink alcohol at 18, while other states say 21. The police were not defunded nationwide. Nathan, once again, is a liar. I believe they did defund the police in his area or at least talked about it, I am not 100% sure. But I do know it’s not nationwide as Nathan made it sound in his post. And if there are only a small amount of people to protect someone, who are those people if the police force is defunded? I would ask for statistics for Nathan’s claim of home invasions by the thousands. We all know he lives in a fantasy world and makes up whatever he feels like making up and puts it out there as the truth. Nathan does, however, live in a nut job state. He fits right in. ** Where did I say refund the police departments in 52 states? Why, are you lying again, Witch? I am speaking Washington State, Oregon and California, Democratic states. I was unaware the USA has 52 states. I used to think times had changed since the Wild West 150 years ago. Apparently not. NOT these days in USA. They have defunded the police force and so they are very small group of police men/women to protect the people . They have a headache with Smash and grab criminals all over the U.S. right now, home invasions by the 1000s. Drive by shooting and so on...Please show we where you indicated it was not all the states in the USA. Nowhere does your post say you are talking only about three states or Democratic states. You post is deliberately misleading. It is a lie. Hell bound liar.
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Post by nathan02 on Dec 5, 2021 16:05:58 GMT -5
** Where did I say refund the police departments in 52 states? Why, are you lying again, Witch? I am speaking Washington State, Oregon and California, Democratic states. I was unaware the USA has 52 states. NOT these days in USA. They have defunded the police force and so they are very small group of police men/women to protect the people . They have a headache with Smash and grab criminals all over the U.S. right now, home invasions by the 1000s. Drive by shooting and so on... Please show we where you indicated it was not all the states in the USA. Nowhere does your post say you are talking only about three states or Democratic states. You post is deliberately misleading. It is a lie. Hell bound liar. China and Taiwan will become 52 states pretty soon. China own the United States already.
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Post by curlywurlysammagee on Dec 5, 2021 16:09:52 GMT -5
I was unaware the USA has 52 states. Please show we where you indicated it was not all the states in the USA. Nowhere does your post say you are talking only about three states or Democratic states. You post is deliberately misleading. It is a lie. Hell bound liar. China and Taiwan will become 52 states pretty soon. China own the United States already. You are being silly again.
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Post by Annan on Dec 5, 2021 16:10:13 GMT -5
I was unaware the USA has 52 states. Please show we where you indicated it was not all the states in the USA. Nowhere does your post say you are talking only about three states or Democratic states. You post is deliberately misleading. It is a lie. Hell bound liar. China and Taiwan will become 52 states pretty soon. China own the United States already. That’s some serious reaching, Natie. Hell bound liar. I am seriously worried about your mental health, Natie. I predict you will blow another gasket soon and go over the edge shortly. All the indicators are there. You lie lie lie and lie and refuse to take any responsibility or acknowledgment for your lies. Your mental state is in crisis mode. Of course that’s only my opinion.
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Post by curlywurlysammagee on Dec 5, 2021 16:10:49 GMT -5
The police force is not under federal control. Each state enacts it’s own laws and penalties. For example, some states enact the death penalty while other states do not. Some states allow its citizens to legally drink alcohol at 18, while other states say 21. The police were not defunded nationwide. Nathan, once again, is a liar. I believe they did defund the police in his area or at least talked about it, I am not 100% sure. But I do know it’s not nationwide as Nathan made it sound in his post. And if there are only a small amount of people to protect someone, who are those people if the police force is defunded? I would ask for statistics for Nathan’s claim of home invasions by the thousands. We all know he lives in a fantasy world and makes up whatever he feels like making up and puts it out there as the truth. Nathan does, however, live in a nut job state. He fits right in. ** Where did I say refund the police departments in 52 states? Why, are you lying again, Witch? I am speaking Washington State, Oregon and California, Democratic states. Do you keep up with politics in the city you live in?
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Post by speak on Dec 5, 2021 16:23:42 GMT -5
China and Taiwan will become 52 states pretty soon. China own the United States already. You are being silly again. To put it mildly.
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Post by Annan on Dec 5, 2021 16:26:48 GMT -5
** Where did I say refund the police departments in 52 states? Why, are you lying again, Witch? I am speaking Washington State, Oregon and California, Democratic states. Do you keep up with politics in the city you live in? I can’t believe he doesn’t hire waldo to sleep at the gas station at night with his gun to stand guard against burglary.
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Post by nathan02 on Dec 5, 2021 17:13:46 GMT -5
China and Taiwan will become 52 states pretty soon. China own the United States already. That’s some serious reaching, Natie. Hell bound liar. I am seriously worried about your mental health, Natie. I predict you will blow another gasket soon and go over the edge shortly. All the indicators are there. You lie lie lie and lie and refuse to take any responsibility or acknowledgment for your lies. Your mental state is in crisis mode. Of course that’s only my opinion. *** I know China because I am half Chinese and Vietnamese. The Vietnamese was under China rule for 1000 years. We fought China for many centuries... We know how China think and act. Thanks, God that is only your opinion.
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Post by Annan on Dec 5, 2021 17:15:35 GMT -5
That’s some serious reaching, Natie. Hell bound liar. I am seriously worried about your mental health, Natie. I predict you will blow another gasket soon and go over the edge shortly. All the indicators are there. You lie lie lie and lie and refuse to take any responsibility or acknowledgment for your lies. Your mental state is in crisis mode. Of course that’s only my opinion. *** I know China because I am half Chinese and Vietnamese. The Vietnamese was under China rule for 1000 years. We fought China for many centuries... We know how China think and act. Thanks, God that is only your opinion. Oh. So you’re a commie. I knew it!
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Post by matisse on Dec 5, 2021 17:26:37 GMT -5
** Where did I say refund the police departments in 52 states? Why, are you lying again, Witch? I am speaking Washington State, Oregon and California, Democratic states. *50 states Its happening in roughly 25 CITIES held by socialists that are defunding the police on the table though are many more... Jackson, Mississippi is the only city in the United States that presently has a Socialist mayor. Most police departments that saw a decrease in funding have had their funding restored. The only thing you got right was the number of states in the US.
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Post by nathan02 on Dec 5, 2021 17:42:16 GMT -5
*** I know China because I am half Chinese and Vietnamese. The Vietnamese was under China rule for 1000 years. We fought China for many centuries... We know how China think and act. Thanks, God that is only your opinion. Oh. So you’re a commie. I knew it! ** haha, in your dream, Witch. Most Commies don't believe in God just like you and your commie, Curly.
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Post by Annan on Dec 5, 2021 18:17:41 GMT -5
Oh. So you’re a commie. I knew it! ** haha, in your dream, Witch. Most Commies don't believe in God just like you and your commie, Curly. I wad under the assumption that commie stood for communist. Am I wrong? Are not the Chinese communist? You said you are half Chinese. Why are you denying your heritage? According to my calculations, you’ve been in the USA a lot longer than you lived in Vietnam. So why do you not refer to yourself as an American but as a Vietnamese? I don’t think you know what the heck you are. Well, except an ugly Hell bound liar. Like I said Natie, you have some serious mental health issues in my opinion. I’d be checking out mental hospitals if I were you.
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Post by curlywurlysammagee on Dec 5, 2021 18:25:39 GMT -5
That’s some serious reaching, Natie. Hell bound liar. I am seriously worried about your mental health, Natie. I predict you will blow another gasket soon and go over the edge shortly. All the indicators are there. You lie lie lie and lie and refuse to take any responsibility or acknowledgment for your lies. Your mental state is in crisis mode. Of course that’s only my opinion. *** I know China because I am half Chinese and Vietnamese. The Vietnamese was under China rule for 1000 years. We fought China for many centuries... We know how China think and act. Thanks, God that is only your opinion. I have noticed that you have never mentioned the period when the French controlled Vietnam. Why is that?
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Post by curlywurlysammagee on Dec 5, 2021 18:28:11 GMT -5
*50 states Its happening in roughly 25 CITIES held by socialists that are defunding the police on the table though are many more... Jackson, Mississippi is the only city in the United States that presently has a Socialist mayor. Most police departments that saw a decrease in funding have had their funding restored. The only thing you got right was the number of states in the US. Nathan and Wally would not like to mention that as it does not go with their fascist narrative. Portland which was renowned in the USA for its aggressive police force have restored some of their police budget. The cities that cut police budgets refirected the money into mental health programs and social housing etc. Fascists conveniently forgot that.
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Post by nathan02 on Dec 5, 2021 18:47:37 GMT -5
** haha, in your dream, Witch. Most Commies don't believe in God just like you and your commie, Curly. I wad under the assumption that commie stood for communist. Am I wrong? Are not the Chinese communist? You said you are half Chinese. Why are you denying your heritage? According to my calculations, you’ve been in the USA a lot longer than you lived in Vietnam. So why do you not refer to yourself as an American but as a Vietnamese? I don’t think you know what the heck you are. Well, except an ugly Hell bound liar. Like I said Natie, you have some serious mental health issues in my opinion. I’d be checking out mental hospitals if I were you. ** I was born in Viet nam my great grandfather left China when the Chinese Commie took over. I left Vietnam before the Vietnamese Commie took over so, Now, I am Vietnamese American. What you say is coming from your an unstable mind, which lie too much.
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Post by nathan02 on Dec 5, 2021 18:49:40 GMT -5
Jackson, Mississippi is the only city in the United States that presently has a Socialist mayor. Most police departments that saw a decrease in funding have had their funding restored. The only thing you got right was the number of states in the US. Nathan and Wally would not like to mention that as it does not go with their fascist narrative. Portland which was renowned in the USA for its aggressive police force have restored some of their police budget. The cities that cut police budgets refirected the money into mental health programs and social housing etc. Fascists conveniently forgot that. Give it another year, our current anti-Trump governor will be gone for good then we will restore our city back.
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Post by Annan on Dec 5, 2021 18:53:05 GMT -5
I wad under the assumption that commie stood for communist. Am I wrong? Are not the Chinese communist? You said you are half Chinese. Why are you denying your heritage? According to my calculations, you’ve been in the USA a lot longer than you lived in Vietnam. So why do you not refer to yourself as an American but as a Vietnamese? I don’t think you know what the heck you are. Well, except an ugly Hell bound liar. Like I said Natie, you have some serious mental health issues in my opinion. I’d be checking out mental hospitals if I were you. ** I was born in Viet nam my great grandfather left China when the Chinese Commie took over. I left Vietnam before the Vietnamese Commie took over so, Now, I am Vietnamese American. What you say is coming from your an unstable mind, which lie too much. I lie? Where’s the proof I cursed someone and put them in the hospital like you said I did? Hell bound liar.
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Post by nathan02 on Dec 5, 2021 18:53:12 GMT -5
*** I know China because I am half Chinese and Vietnamese. The Vietnamese was under China rule for 1000 years. We fought China for many centuries... We know how China think and act. Thanks, God that is only your opinion. I have noticed that you have never mentioned the period when the French controlled Vietnam. Why is that? ** I mentioned the French occupation of Vietnam for 100 years, the Japanese during WWII, the Americans, the Russians in the past to you already! How could you forget so soon.
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Post by rational on Jan 5, 2022 18:37:00 GMT -5
Rational mentioned in the past he had DOD security clearance.. Where is rational now? Undercover? Still taking a break. And from what I have looked at here I have not missed much! But thanks for asking....
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Post by dmmichgood on Jan 5, 2022 22:56:10 GMT -5
Still taking a break. And from what I have looked at here I have not missed much! But thanks for asking.... True, you may not have missed a lot Rational, but we have missed you!
How about coming back?
We try to keep the forum grounded in reality but we sure could use another clear sensible head to counter some of the nonsense here.
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