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Post by bothers me on Nov 4, 2007 18:48:20 GMT -5
You shouldn't be dating outsiders and yet convention isn't a place to date, according to some workers in the kingdom.
Workers still preach against marrying someone who isn't professing. So young professing couples often travel to many conventions to find a suitable mate. Strange. Workes have encouraged the long distance romances. Yet the woman has to move close to the man's family and forsake her own people in many instances. Homesickness and depression may result. The workers need to encourage young couples to breed more children! This fellowship needs new blood.
The workers really need to stop trying to tell people who they can't marry!
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Post by Mary Todd Lincoln on Nov 4, 2007 22:53:23 GMT -5
You shouldn't be dating outsiders and yet convention isn't a place to date, according to some workers in the kingdom. Workers still preach against marrying someone who isn't professing. So young professing couples often travel to many conventions to find a suitable mate. Strange. Workes have encouraged the long distance romances. Yet the woman has to move close to the man's family and forsake her own people in many instances. Homesickness and depression may result. The workers need to encourage young couples to breed more children! This fellowship needs new blood. The workers really need to stop trying to tell people who they can't marry! In searching for love humans often search for a LOVER. It's part of the human plight. We search and we look and we are almost like scavengers which is really quite PATHETIC--: when you stop to think about the divine love that God would like us to partake of--: instead of scavenging for left overs, are we not called to something better, something more divine, a HIGHER love than that which we must search in vain for,- for all our live long days? Oh love. Oh lost love. Oh elusive love. The hunter, scavenger, & seeker would search alway and still not find that ONE love, that ever DIVINE love that God wants so very much to GIVE to us -- : IF we would but only ACCEPT IT. So, go to convention if you must and look for the human love you so dearly think you must have--: all the while missing the DIVINE love that is right under your very noses.
Mary Todd-Lincoln aka Mrs. Abraham Lincoln-Mary Todd was my maiden name which does come up from time to time in banking. Thank-you.
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Post by cupid on Nov 5, 2007 0:45:13 GMT -5
In searching for love humans often search for a LOVER. It's part of the human plight. Ms Todd-Lincoln, tell us where you met your lov er - perhaps in a line at the bank, or even while engaged on some higher spiritual endeavor? I'm told that on top of a hay shed at convention can provide quite a divine and heightened spiritual dimension to the human scavenging lust.
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Post by Halbert on Nov 5, 2007 2:35:28 GMT -5
You shouldn't be dating outsiders and yet convention isn't a place to date, according to some workers in the kingdom.
The operative word here is "some". In fact its a tiny minority worldwide, and this thread just blows it out of proportion, presumably as a result of the limited experience of the writer.
Workers still preach against marrying someone who isn't professing. Here the word "some" is missing. To assert that ALL workers preach this is just nonsence.
So young professing couples often travel to many conventions to find a suitable mate. Strange. Workes have encouraged the long distance romances. Yet the woman has to move close to the man's family and forsake her own people in many instances. Homesickness and depression may result. The workers need to encourage young couples to breed more children! This fellowship needs new blood.
The workers really need to stop trying to tell people who they can't marry! Actually workers in general DO NOT tell people who they can marry or not.
This thread is an example of limited experience colouring the outlook of a person to assume that the rest of the world is like they are.
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Post by truthisnotalie on Nov 5, 2007 4:44:06 GMT -5
You shouldn't be dating outsiders and yet convention isn't a place to date, according to some workers in the kingdom.
As Halbert said, "The operative word here is "some".
I remember some years ago in Queensland, there were some young couples standing around in the shadow of trees late in the evening after night meeting.
Some visiting workers said to the overseer of that convention " are you going to break up that group?" The overseer said that he was not and that " some of the best families that he had stayed at in Queeensland probably started courting near that tree".
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Post by Hmmmmmm on Nov 5, 2007 11:06:42 GMT -5
It is not that it is discouraged from attending convention to find a mate... what is discouraged is what use to happen when large groups of young ones gathered in one area in the meeting and became a distraction with all the talking and note passing.
I have not seen this type of behavior in many years.. well since I was young... so that is a long time... I have heard that it has happened some. Outward show of affections get a lot of publicity also and sometimes it can get a little carried away. This however happens in small groups, usually two.
So being on the hunt is no different than it was 75 years ago. Just be careful how you display.
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Post by ecarged on Nov 5, 2007 11:41:36 GMT -5
h appen when large groups of young ones gathered in one area in the meeting and became a distraction with all the talking and note passing.Anytime you get a large group of young ones together............there will be distractions. It's called "puberty". ;D ;D ;D I remember "different boys" being one of the ONLY reasons I looked forward to convention. I didn't even like my counsins who always visited at convention. I had to give up my bed I didn't really want to sign up for a "duty". I was sick of dishes at my own house. I got new clothes, but not the ones i REALLY wanted! We used to skip the afternoon session and hit the local "swimming hole". Our horse tank or reservoir. ;D ;D Peace everyone!
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Post by this generation on Nov 5, 2007 12:23:02 GMT -5
what is discouraged is what use to happen when large groups of young ones gathered in one area in the meeting and became a distraction with all the talking and note passing. I imagine that the young ones now text message one-another.
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Post by Gene on Nov 5, 2007 14:38:29 GMT -5
h appen when large groups of young ones gathered in one area in the meeting and became a distraction with all the talking and note passing.Anytime you get a large group of young ones together............there will be distractions. It's called "puberty". ;D ;D ;D I remember "different boys" being one of the ONLY reasons I looked forward to convention. I didn't even like my counsins who always visited at convention. I had to give up my bed I didn't really want to sign up for a "duty". I was sick of dishes at my own house. I got new clothes, but not the ones i REALLY wanted! We used to skip the afternoon session and hit the local "swimming hole". Our horse tank or reservoir. ;D ;D Peace everyone! I wonder if that's the same swimming hole I used to use! Actually there was more than one. There was one at your parents place that we used for baptism one year during Happy conv. But the BESTEST swimming hole was one that we got to through one of the Bryan's pastures. It was on a creek that fed into Palo Duro canyon. Had a great waterfall even, and a cliff that you could jump off of into the pool.... ah, those were the days!
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Post by 3 on Nov 5, 2007 16:39:29 GMT -5
I'm curious.
How did you get away with skipping a meeting & hitting a swimming hole instead? Didn't your parents 'tan your backside' or make you sit next to them at convention for the rest of your young life???!!!
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Post by eyedeetentee on Nov 5, 2007 16:39:39 GMT -5
Yes, that puddle in the canyon was the best. I remember two levels; one was about ten feet higher than the other and more difficult to reach. Unfortunately, I had to take my glasses off to swim which meant limited scenery. Also, I could not see the ground very well, so getting to the precipice was painful. But the water was clear and cool and the memories are fond.
I never swam in the other pond but I remember cleaning it out for baptism. Yuck.
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Post by LSMND on Nov 5, 2007 18:00:29 GMT -5
You shouldn't be dating outsiders and yet convention isn't a place to date, according to some workers in the kingdom.
The operative word here is "some". In fact its a tiny minority worldwide, and this thread just blows it out of proportion, presumably as a result of the limited experience of the writer.
Workers still preach against marrying someone who isn't professing. Here the word "some" is missing. To assert that ALL workers preach this is just nonsence.
So young professing couples often travel to many conventions to find a suitable mate. Strange. Workes have encouraged the long distance romances. Yet the woman has to move close to the man's family and forsake her own people in many instances. Homesickness and depression may result. The workers need to encourage young couples to breed more children! This fellowship needs new blood.
The workers really need to stop trying to tell people who they can't marry! Actually workers in general DO NOT tell people who they can marry or not. This thread is an example of limited experience colouring the outlook of a person to assume that the rest of the world is like they are. Not sure where you live Halbert, but workers in Ireland strongly discourage "dating" and quite emphatically discourage marriage outside the fellowship. And they have on at least two occasions (both parties known personally to me) stepped in and asked one chap if he knew what he was doing ( I couldn't disagee with them on that score) and in the other case went to the girl's parents and warned them about the chap she was marrying. I can't say I blame them there either but interestingly in both cases both couples are still professing whereas I and my thoroughly decent husband (who was not warned about me, nor I him) are no longer going to the meetings. I also know a number of people that were instructed not to take part in the meeting at any level because they were "dating" (quaint American term!) "outsiders" and at least one person even after having married the chap, no longer goes to the meeting but does go to the mission. So in Ireland, dating and marrying outsiders is a big No-no and workers have been known to get involved in questioning the decisions of professing couples too.
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Post by freespirit on Nov 5, 2007 21:50:50 GMT -5
You shouldn't be dating outsiders and yet convention isn't a place to date, according to some workers in the kingdom. Workers still preach against marrying someone who isn't professing. So young professing couples often travel to many conventions to find a suitable mate. Strange. Workes have encouraged the long distance romances. Yet the woman has to move close to the man's family and forsake her own people in many instances. Homesickness and depression may result. The workers need to encourage young couples to breed more children! This fellowship needs new blood. The workers really need to stop trying to tell people who they can't marry! Hmmm... well, I kinda get the "You shouldn't be dating outsiders and yet convention isn't a place to date" stuff. The way I see it is sorta like signing up for a class on building model airplanes despite the fact that you have no interest in model airplanes--you do it ONLY to meet guys. You might find a man, but then--in, say 15 years--you are looking at each other across from the dinner table and realize you have nothing in common with each other. You are really sick of his obsession with model airplanes while he's a little put out that you have no genuine interest in them. So the relationship is unequally yoked. Now, of course *IF* you are looking for a mate *AND* you have an big interest in model airplanes then you should maybe sign up for the class instead of sequestering yourself at home--not really signing up for the only purpose of finding a mate, but if love happens then it happens. And if model airplanes are a major part of your life--like to an obsession level--and you marry someone who has zero interest in them, then that relationship may have some challenges that other relationships where both parties have things in common do not have. Maybe my example is too simplistic, but IMO going to convention simply for a date smacks of desperation to me--not a great place to be in if one is looking for a spouse. If one is happy with themselves first then God and nature just take over and the right mate is attracted to you at the right time. So, that's kinda how I see that advice. But as far as the workers actually TELLING people who they should or should not marry, I'm totally with ya. That stuff is between a person and God and the one they are thinking of marrying and that's it. Just some thoughts. For the record, I've been married over 20 years. We met at convention. I am really, really, really happy with the man I married. I prayed about marriage and finding the right mate A LOT and I feel like that's an area that God gave me a big blessing in because I was willing to let go and let God. peace, freespirit
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Post by Martha on Nov 5, 2007 23:27:50 GMT -5
We don't find love, love finds us. The problem with the high divorce rate today is that so many people are looking for love and looking for lovers - in many wrong places.
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Post by To Freespirit on Nov 6, 2007 0:40:55 GMT -5
To Freespirit-----I guess that you liked model airplanes?-------------I knew that you did-----by all your previous posts-----!
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Post by teenager unloggerd on Nov 6, 2007 3:36:19 GMT -5
You shouldn't be dating outsiders and yet convention isn't a place to date, according to some workers in the kingdom.
The operative word here is "some". In fact its a tiny minority worldwide, and this thread just blows it out of proportion, presumably as a result of the limited experience of the writer.
Workers still preach against marrying someone who isn't professing. Here the word "some" is missing. To assert that ALL workers preach this is just nonsence.
So young professing couples often travel to many conventions to find a suitable mate. Strange. Workes have encouraged the long distance romances. Yet the woman has to move close to the man's family and forsake her own people in many instances. Homesickness and depression may result. The workers need to encourage young couples to breed more children! This fellowship needs new blood.
The workers really need to stop trying to tell people who they can't marry! Actually workers in general DO NOT tell people who they can marry or not. This thread is an example of limited experience colouring the outlook of a person to assume that the rest of the world is like they are. Not sure where you live Halbert, but workers in Ireland strongly discourage "dating" and quite emphatically discourage marriage outside the fellowship. And they have on at least two occasions (both parties known personally to me) stepped in and asked one chap if he knew what he was doing ( I couldn't disagee with them on that score) and in the other case went to the girl's parents and warned them about the chap she was marrying. I can't say I blame them there either but interestingly in both cases both couples are still professing whereas I and my thoroughly decent husband (who was not warned about me, nor I him) are no longer going to the meetings. I also know a number of people that were instructed not to take part in the meeting at any level because they were "dating" (quaint American term!) "outsiders" and at least one person even after having married the chap, no longer goes to the meeting but does go to the mission. So in Ireland, dating and marrying outsiders is a big No-no and workers have been known to get involved in questioning the decisions of professing couples too. .. Unless you have an uncle in the work!! I know two boys, early twenties dating outsiders, who are able to continue going to meetings whilst dating outsiders, one has a fondness of fornication, drinking, and the night-life. Guess it depends who you know!!
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Post by Claire on Nov 6, 2007 4:00:16 GMT -5
LSMND Are we from the same area? I'm ex- (2x2, Fermanagh, Ireland). Married an outsider (thoroughly decent, etc etc) so got booted oh, ... must be 15 years by now.
Care to PM me? Full confiden/whatever/ assured.
/caith
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Post by LSMND on Nov 6, 2007 13:59:08 GMT -5
LSMND Are we from the same area? I'm ex- (2x2, Fermanagh, Ireland). Married an outsider (thoroughly decent, etc etc) so got booted oh, ... must be 15 years by now. Care to PM me? Full confiden/whatever/ assured. /caith Ock! You're from the wee North too? Sorry, don't know what PM is. I'm a techno-numpty. Can you give me an indication who you are? I've got Fermanagh roots but don't grew up in another county in the North. I expect we do know "of" each other, even we don't actually know each other. The woman of one of the couples I mentioned previously was from Fermanagh... I'm in a froth of excitement about Teenager's post as I understand he/she(?) is from the wee North too. I wonder who those chaps could be?
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Post by Scott Ross on Nov 6, 2007 14:10:02 GMT -5
Hey there LSMND, A PM is a 'Personal Message' that can be sent between two registered members on this board. Since you are not registered it can't happen. caithleen also does not have her email listed under her profile. If you would like to contact her, you could send me a regular email, and I will then copy it over to her on a PM if you would like, that way you could both get each others email addresses... No hidden agenda on my part... Just giving you an option on getting a hold of her. Scott bescottross@aol.com
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Post by hawk on Nov 6, 2007 14:13:06 GMT -5
Be careful. Scott's with the Company . . . and that's not his real name.
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Post by Scott Ross on Nov 6, 2007 14:20:08 GMT -5
Hey Hawk.... Be careful. Scott's with the Company . . . and that's not his real nameThat's what I always said when questioned as to how I got in to the potluck..... "Hi, I don't think we've met." Oh you don't know me, I'm Scott Ross. I came with the Company. (at this point I make a nonchalant wave in the direction of several people pigging out in a corner, and grab another pickle off the table....) Scott
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Post by hawk on Nov 6, 2007 14:24:55 GMT -5
Lol!
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Post by zing on Nov 6, 2007 22:05:02 GMT -5
" The workers need to encourage young couples to breed more children! "
huh? ha ha! rofl ..... (hope this was a misprint) giggle giggle
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Post by grace on Nov 6, 2007 22:10:10 GMT -5
Hey Gene, It was called "Third Falls". Very Fun! Cool that you remember it. Parents still have baptism in the pond. Just a different one. Peace!
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Post by even the devils on Nov 6, 2007 23:31:19 GMT -5
Do the Workers give out free condoms @ your conventions ? Or do they 'advise' "coitis interruptis" , or , perhaps "vatican-roulette".?
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Post by Claire on Nov 7, 2007 2:37:52 GMT -5
Hey there LSMND, No hidden agenda on my part... Just giving you an option on getting a hold of her. All proceeding according to plan. Thanks, Scott. ;D (we have the technology...)
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Post by Deleted on Nov 13, 2007 6:07:54 GMT -5
yeah ok, condoms from workers.... wonderful...
thats main board for ya, but watch out. if they don't like you, they will use anything you say to get the admin to be their weapon.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 13, 2007 6:19:34 GMT -5
well, there aint anyone here you'd marry is there ? ;D
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