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Post by ilylo on May 19, 2006 12:30:43 GMT -5
If you believe half of what I'm reading about you (such as this thing about other Christians not being able to receive salvation), then you are in for a very long day, so to speak. I see that prue has not stipulated to a position on this issue yet. Perhaps it would be "prue-dent" to ask in the open now for clarification.
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Post by Deleted on May 19, 2006 13:57:56 GMT -5
Karl wrote "What do you believe the conditions of that covenant are?" Prue respondedThe conditions for that covenant don't change. All must shelter under His blood and follow Him in how he lived. We do not accept what churches say about an on-going revelation.
Could you clarify this: What churches say what aout ongoing revelation?
Karl
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Post by Greg Lee unplugged on May 19, 2006 18:27:33 GMT -5
We do not accept what churches say about an on-going revelation. Who is this "we"? Nathan Barker teaches an on-going revelation. He must not be part of your "we".
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Post by Deleted on May 19, 2006 20:59:03 GMT -5
Who's on-going revelation do we believe?
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Post by prue on May 20, 2006 5:54:14 GMT -5
Hi Folks - I am on the run, just quickly - yes, there could be seven covenants, and each person who enters into relationship with God enters a covenant. But, as someone suggested here, we are talking about two basic, generic covenants - that is, pre and post Christ. Pre was about the symbols that point to Christ. All those of the seven covenants did point to Christ.
On-going revelation is the belief that the bible's truth changed over time, ie from Abraham's child sacrifice to the sacrifice of animals to Christ's sacrifice (to mention one, just quickly.)Modern churches believe they can "continue" this "change." This is where Christian monasteries came from, for instance. sorry, gotta go...
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Post by Studylearning unplugged on May 20, 2006 7:18:18 GMT -5
To Bridge. An apostate is anyone who rejects their own faith. Thus if you were in my church, and left it, you are an apostate. If you were a Catholic and became a Protestant you would be an apostate to the Catholic church. Wowa there. Thus if you were in my churchThis is a major error in your thinking. You are equating all from your reference point assuming some status of (Your Church). You are putting (Your Church) on a higher plain falsely. There is no ( YOUR CHURCH). The Church is the Body of Christ. The Church is the family of God. The Church is God's Holy Temple.Because of your group think you have been conditioned to assume that your fellowship is the only place where the above three exist. This is the concept you must move away from. The " Church" is universal and no group of people may lay claim on it. God is in total control of his " Church" and no man can change that. No non-name group or named group may lay exclusive claim on what "GOD" has created. So in reality it is a grave error to assume that who leaves a fellowship is commiting apostasy. Just because one leaves a fellowship does not equate that they have fallen away from their faith in Jesus Christ. The circle of life/light through Jesus does not evolve around my brothers and sisters in the F&W fellowship nor any other fellowship. It evolves around Jesus. It is in the hearts of men and it matters not where they are. What matters is that the Love of Jesus remain in them and through the empowering of the Holy Ghost.
6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.
7 If ye had known me, ye should have known my Father also: and from henceforth ye know him, and have seen him.
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Post by selah on May 20, 2006 7:46:27 GMT -5
What Studylearing says here is so true.
It should be good news to the f&w especially! God's "true church" really is from the beginning, AND it really has no particular name, AND it has only one founder...Jesus Christ!!!
Blessings, Linda
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Post by Well Now on Jun 27, 2007 21:06:41 GMT -5
Is not this an oldie but goodie. Brings to mind the many faces of the pruebert collective
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Post by ranman77007 on Jul 27, 2007 23:10:30 GMT -5
prue, As the present caretaker of the original VOT website (I am not its author, however), I can assure you that your site will be reviewed thoroughly by myself and a few others. If you believe half of what I'm reading about you (such as this thing about other Christians not being able to receive salvation), then you are in for a very long day, so to speak. We really don't have much regard for sectarian exclusivists. hey ilylo your avatar is an illuminati symbol.... are you part of the elite, like me?
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