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Post by fwiw on Aug 25, 2007 20:34:23 GMT -5
In the thread about the sex scandal, there is a news link about a brother worker being jailed for sex crimes in the state of Minnesota USA. Read it. Lyle Schober needs to address the issue. And Barry Barkley.
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Post by juliette on Aug 25, 2007 20:35:29 GMT -5
Who's Barry Barkley?
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Post by wingsofaneagle on Aug 25, 2007 20:37:57 GMT -5
Overseer here in Illinois and Indiana.
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Post by juliette on Aug 25, 2007 20:38:52 GMT -5
Why would he be involved in this situation?
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Post by barry is on Aug 25, 2007 20:42:19 GMT -5
Barry has been Taylor Wood's right hand man of late - with responsibility around the midwest and the east coast
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Post by wingsofaneagle on Aug 25, 2007 20:49:47 GMT -5
Barry has been Taylor Wood's right hand man of late - with responsibility around the midwest and the east coast No wonder he looks so frail.
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Post by juliette on Aug 25, 2007 20:55:37 GMT -5
So Barry would kind of be over Lyle?
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Post by barry is on Aug 25, 2007 20:55:49 GMT -5
yes - much worry will do that to you
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Post by IllinoisGal on Aug 25, 2007 21:28:06 GMT -5
In the thread about the sex scandal, there is a news link about a brother worker being jailed for sex crimes in the state of Minnesota USA. Read it. Lyle Schober needs to address the issue. And Barry Barkley. If he is molesting kids he may be a worker but he AINT a brother!
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Post by wondering on Aug 26, 2007 8:02:52 GMT -5
barry is -- Just where do you get this information about Barry B? Can you back it up?
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Post by Katie on Aug 26, 2007 22:36:38 GMT -5
Barry B. isn't Taylor Woods' "right hand man"... he has basically been assigned to Taylor's position. Taylor isn't really able for much anymore, from what I understand.
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Post by ithascome on Aug 26, 2007 23:57:33 GMT -5
I have been waiting to see what GIT and Nathan have to say about all this. I bet they are shocked. Like I said before in the other thread we need to let the man have his day in court... but if he turns out to be guilty... it will be hard on many of the F&Ws. Perhaps they will start to take a look at their system and see that it is not normal for workers to live with the friends... there is too much danger.
GIT you said it..... hard to say that about a worker isn't It? Perhaps you now understand why some on here are so dead against them. Don't bleed too much you must live to fight another day.
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Post by Henry on Aug 27, 2007 0:10:33 GMT -5
And who is this brother Worker?
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Post by ithascome on Aug 27, 2007 0:30:40 GMT -5
Tim Severud acording to reports.
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Post by dollars on Aug 27, 2007 7:40:17 GMT -5
The workers need to loosen the purse strings to pay for Tim's lawyer rather than letting the citizens of MN pay for a court appointed lawyer, provided to those who have no means to pay for their defense.
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Post by wingsofaneagle on Aug 27, 2007 7:49:03 GMT -5
The workers need to loosen the purse strings to pay for Tim's lawyer rather than letting the citizens of MN pay for a court appointed lawyer, provided to those who have no means to pay for their defense. I think the workers would rather wipe their hands of him and distance themselves as far as they can! He's bad for their "image".
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Post by wondering on Aug 27, 2007 13:57:02 GMT -5
Since barry is isn't replying and now Katie made a states about Barry B taking over for Taylor Wood, what proof do you have of this? Barry B. isn't too well himself. Maybe the workers need an election shortly.
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Post by rofl on Aug 27, 2007 14:06:53 GMT -5
Maybe the workers need an election shortly. ha ha...that is like suggesting that the workers are capable of doing something openly..... HA HA HA!!! Ain't gonna happen!
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Post by sick and tired on Aug 27, 2007 14:47:58 GMT -5
Perhaps they will start to take a look at their system and see that it is not normal for workers to live with the friends... there is too much danger. "Take a look at their system" What are you smoking. This is a cult. Objective introspection is not something this group is known for or will ever be known for. Expect more of the same - Lies, coverup, corruption, etc. This is the straw for us --- and why we're leaving.
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Post by Encourage on Aug 27, 2007 15:20:52 GMT -5
Dear sick and tired, I am glad the Lord has led or is leading you out. May He direct you to a Christ centered fellowship of true believers. God Bless You!
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Post by CherieKropp on Aug 27, 2007 15:25:12 GMT -5
If the workers don't handle this situation "right," I predict there will be many others who leave also.
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Post by not gonna happen on Aug 27, 2007 15:46:41 GMT -5
If the workers don't handle this situation "right," I predict there will be many others who leave also.
It will not be handled the way you are hoping by Lyle Schober. Lyle is a pretty good guy, but handling problems isn't his strength. They'll need to bring in a hatchet man to deal with this.
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Post by freespirit on Aug 27, 2007 16:08:17 GMT -5
Cherie (and others)--what do you think the "right" way to handle this is? My idea was (If he is indeed guilty) to drop him off a cliff. But I'm thinking this isn't gonna go over or that we have some sort of law against doing that. I'm not sure why we have laws against doing that come to think of it, but we do. Abusing a child--especially by one who should be a trusted spiritual leader and teacher is just... vile. So...I would like to see the workers publicly condemn child molestation just as a reassurance that we do NOT condone that sort of behavior with our silence. I'm not sure what else I would want done as far as the congregation goes--let families know about Tim's arrest and the charges. And Pay for the child's therapy??? Or ?? For certain, he should not be allowed back in the work to live in people's homes which have other children who would be exposed to danger. I believe in grace... but not stupidity. What would the rest of you like to see happen exactly? I'm curious. freespirit
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Post by BUILD IT on Aug 27, 2007 17:13:15 GMT -5
What would the rest of you like to see happen exactly? For the sake of all our children, we need a 2x2 worker registered sex offender list on a website.
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Post by las logged out on Aug 27, 2007 17:16:34 GMT -5
Cherie (and others)--what do you think the "right" way to handle this is? My idea was (If he is indeed guilty) to drop him off a cliff. But I'm thinking this isn't gonna go over or that we have some sort of law against doing that. I'm not sure why we have laws against doing that come to think of it, but we do. Abusing a child--especially by one who should be a trusted spiritual leader and teacher is just... vile. So...I would like to see the workers publicly condemn child molestation just as a reassurance that we do NOT condone that sort of behavior with our silence. I'm not sure what else I would want done as far as the congregation goes--let families know about Tim's arrest and the charges. And Pay for the child's therapy??? Or ?? For certain, he should not be allowed back in the work to live in people's homes which have other children who would be exposed to danger. I believe in grace... but not stupidity. What would the rest of you like to see happen exactly? I'm curious. freespirit He deserves a fair trial eh?
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Post by wingsofaneagle on Aug 27, 2007 17:17:06 GMT -5
What would the rest of you like to see happen exactly? For the sake of all our children, we need a 2x2 worker registered sex offender list on a website. Well unless they're convicted sex offenders you could be up for slander and defamation of character. What needs to happen is for people to not be afraid to come forward and press charges. The problem is that too many people have been enabling the workers to engage in this sort of behavior because they have NOT been held accountable. Hey if there's not gonna be any repercussions, then why not? Its time for that to change.
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Post by no prob on Aug 27, 2007 17:20:24 GMT -5
No problem. Let them get convicted, then we'll post their name and picture as well as a listing of the overseers in charge who tried to sweep it under the carpet, if that happened (ie, Ruben Mata).
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Post by IMPORTANT on Aug 29, 2007 16:16:36 GMT -5
BUMP
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